Isn't it awkward when a wind up backfires...

[rusticgal]

:laugh:

In fact the funniest thing about it was Raph said he loves playing pranks, but only pranks his good friends because they would see it as a joke...not only did that backfire, but it reminded me of an egg prank he played on his not so close friends in the first week..:shrug:...

Double whammy...

[TaylorCallum]

He's had fun with his pranks, including his scares so I don't think it's a big deal. You must get bored in there so he's just keeping himself occupied.

[Niamh.]

Poor Raph, didnt do him any harm in the edit though, it made him look endearing imo

[Vanessa]

Poor Raph, didnt do him any harm in the edit though, it made him look endearing imo

He was just being playful :love:

[Littlegreen]

*chuckles*

[SarenaW]

The general opinion regarding the prank on other social media sites seems to be pro-Raph.

I think Hannah was mad at first, but when she found out it was Raph she was more just annoyed. Raph doesn't have a huge ego so he will will probably talk it out with her tomorrow and apologize (again, lmao)... and probably after Hannah rants to him about how much she didn't appreciate the joke. :shrug:

If it was anyone other than Raph, Hannah probably would have thrown a fit, but she knows Raph would never have malicious intent towards her. Any other housemate probably would have tried to deflect Hannah's feeling and excuse it as being "just a joke" and blame Hannah for overreacting, which would anger her more.

Raph handled it well. Was honest, didn't make Hannah feel like her feelings were invalid, and simply apologized.

[rusticgal]

Well I guess everyone who likes him will saying how endearing he was...

You can avoid my 2nd point though if it can't be defended.

Raph deliberately put eggs into the butter as a prank...a prank intended for a majority of the housemates he did not like...does that not make him a hypocrite considering what he said tonight?...

[SarenaW]

Well I guess everyone who likes him will saying how endearing he was...

You can avoid my 2nd point though if it can't be defended.

Raph deliberately put eggs into the butter as a prank...a prank intended for a majority of the housemates he did not like...does that not make him a hypocrite considering what he said tonight?...
It was both him and Chanelle that did it, he was just the only one who owned up to it.

[Mystic Mock]

Raph is trying to set Hannah up to be evicted I suspect.

[Vanessa]

Raph is trying to set Hannah up to be evicted I suspect.

I don't think so. He has probably pranked everyone. But Hannah overreacting is the reason they showed it. Seems to me that it's the show that wants her out. Bad edit?

[Niamh.]

Well I guess everyone who likes him will saying how endearing he was...

You can avoid my 2nd point though if it can't be defended.

Raph deliberately put eggs into the butter as a prank...a prank intended for a majority of the housemates he did not like...does that not make him a hypocrite considering what he said tonight?...
Fiesty lol

I dont need to address every point everyone makes. I also dont need to defend everything Raph says and does :/

[rusticgal]

It was both him and Chanelle that did it, he was just the only one who owned up to it.


I'm talking about Raph and his ethics on prancing people...it's irrelevant that Chanelle was involved. The prank was aimed at the 'Clique'...but Raph said tonight he only pranks his good friends otherwise it will be seen as malicious...and he doesn't do that :shrug:...but he did...with the intent to stir the pot. We all know he dutifully owned up to it but it contradicts what he said tonight does it not?

[Mystic Mock]

I don't think so. He has probably pranked everyone. But Hannah overreacting is the reason they showed it. Seems to me that it's the show that wants her out. Bad edit?

I'm not attacking Raph for it as it is a game, the only thing that I wish he would do is be honest to the public about what he was doing.

[rusticgal]

Fiesty lol

I dont need to address every point everyone makes. I also dont need to defend everything Raph says and does :/

But you avoided the point that was indefendable...and defended the point that was defendable. However you are right..you can address whatever point you wish Niamh.

[Littlegreen]

I'm talking about Raph and his ethics on prancing people...it's irrelevant that Chanelle was involved. The prank was aimed at the 'Clique'...but Raph said tonight he only pranks his good friends otherwise it will be seen as malicious...and he doesn't do that :shrug:...but he did...with the intent to stir the pot. We all know he dutifully owned up to it but it contradicts what he said tonight does it not?

You can't compare a prank from week 1, to one with a friend after 6/7 weeks together.

Especially when pranks were happening non-stop due to Arthur in that first week.

[rusticgal]

Raph is trying to set Hannah up to be evicted I suspect.

I doubt it...it just backfired. Raph obviously forgetting Hannah does NOT have a sense of humour. :laugh:

[Niamh.]

But you avoided the point that was indefendable...and defended the point that was defendable. However you are right..you can address whatever point you wish Niamh.
Defendable and non defendable, bloody hell, are we still talking about playing pranks on people? [emoji23]

[rusticgal]

You can't compare a prank from week 1, to one with a friend after 6/7 weeks together.

Especially when pranks were happening non-stop due to Arthur in that first week.

You are clearly missing the point...

[SarenaW]

I'm talking about Raph and his ethics on prancing people...it's irrelevant that Chanelle was involved. The prank was aimed at the 'Clique'...but Raph said tonight he only pranks his good friends otherwise it will be seen as malicious...and he doesn't do that :shrug:...but he did...with the intent to stir the pot. We all know he dutifully owned up to it but it contradicts what he said tonight does it not?


Actually, he said that he only feels comfortable pranking a singular person if he is good friends with them, because he feels like they wont take it personally and would understand his jest. Otherwise, he would prefer it to be a group prank.

The egg in the butter was towards everyone, and was just playfully perpetuating the whole "egg gate" situation. No one was even upset by him doing that so I don't know why you are? :conf:

[Mystic Mock]

I doubt it...it just backfired. Raph obviously forgetting Hannah does NOT have a sense of humour. :laugh:

Raph knows that if he can get someone to lose their temper and they're up for eviction up against him then they're gone.

However he might cost himself if he keeps playing this sort of game throughout the week as if I can see what his doing and I'm supporting him, then I can only imagine what neutrals will be thinking.

[SarenaW]

Raph knows that if he can get someone to lose their temper and they're up for eviction up against him then they're gone.

However he might cost himself if he keeps playing this sort of game throughout the week as if I can see what his doing and I'm supporting him, then I can only imagine what neutrals will be thinking.

Pretty much everyone just thinks he was having a bit of fun, I think you are reading too much into it.

[rusticgal]

Defendable and non defendable, bloody hell, are we still talking about playing pranks on people? [emoji23]

No...I'm trying to make a point on the hypocrisy of Raphs prank ethics...but the comparison is being ignored..as I thought it might :laugh:

[Niamh.]

No...I'm trying to make a point on the hypocrisy of Raphs prank ethics...but the comparison is being ignored..as I thought it might [emoji23]
Prank ethics lol

[SarenaW]

No...I'm trying to make a point on the hypocrisy of Raphs prank ethics...but the comparison is being ignored..as I thought it might :laugh:

It's not being ignored, it just makes no sense.:shrug:

[Mystic Mock]

Pretty much everyone just thinks he was having a bit of fun, I think you are reading too much into it.

I like Raph, but there was more to it than just a bit of fun I think.

[SarenaW]

I like Raph, but there was more to it than just a bit of fun I think.

Nah, if he was trying to rile her up he wouldn't have immediately apologized and try to keep her calm.

[Mystic Mock]

Nah, he was trying to rile her up he wouldn't have immediately apologized and try to keep her calm.

Raph's not a nasty person and probably did feel guilty, but he knew that his most sensitive friend in the house was not gonna take a prank very well as he is an intelligent guy.

[SarenaW]

Raph's not a nasty person and probably did feel guilty, but he knew that his most sensitive friend in the house was not gonna take a prank very well as he is an intelligent guy.

I don't think he chose her because she was the most sensitive, but rather because she was the only one not already in bed.

[rusticgal]

Raph knows that if he can get someone to lose their temper and they're up for eviction up against him then they're gone.

However he might cost himself if he keeps playing this sort of game throughout the week as if I can see what his doing and I'm supporting him, then I can only imagine what neutrals will be thinking.


I agree with your point...it's Raphs game plan. I can't believe that I can't believe it was done deliberately although I did think it strange that he messed with Hannah's bed of all people.
The show is drawing to a close...if Raph wants to win this he has got to start removing people from his own group who are equally if not more popular. Andrew cannot win...Isabelle doesn't lose her temper...Hannah does and Deborah just supports her which doesn't do her any good. Chanelle got less support than Isabelle so I guess he feels she isn't much competition..
As for the others...Ellie and the showmance will hinder her, as a BB fan Raph will know that will bore the pants off the viewers...Tom, Kieron and Charlotte haven't done a great deal and Sam can't win...
Who knows..you could be right..:laugh:

[rusticgal]

Actually, he said that he only feels comfortable pranking a singular person if he is good friends with them, because he feels like they wont take it personally and would understand his jest. Otherwise, he would prefer it to be a group prank.

The egg in the butter was towards everyone, and was just playfully perpetuating the whole "egg gate" situation. No one was even upset by him doing that so I don't know why you are? :conf:

Ffs...I'm not upset by it....I'm making a point and a comparison..:laugh:

[SarenaW]

Ffs...I'm not upset by it....I'm making a point and a comparison..:laugh:

But if anything, it supports Raph's "prank ethics" as you call it.

[rusticgal]

But if anything, it supports Raph's "prank ethics" as you call it.


I disagree...his prank with the eggs was aimed at the majority of the house that were then known as the 'clique' that he did not like. But tonight he said he only pranked his close friends knowing they would take it the right way...that's a contradiction.

[Littlegreen]

I truly don't believe there was anything more to it than just a misread prank. She was the wrong sister to do that kind of thing with.

[SarenaW]

I disagree...his prank with the eggs was aimed at the majority of the house that were then known as the 'clique' that he did not like. But tonight he said he only pranked his close friends knowing they would take it the right way...that's a contradiction.

No, he said "If I do targeted pranks it's always going to be to one of my close friends because then it's not about malicious intent, it's just funny. If not then I would do a group collective prank such as putting lotion in the hand soap because then it could be anyone, and I think that would be quite funny versus targeting a specific person."

Hannah is a close friend that he has a very playful friendship with, so he felt like she would understand his prank and find the humour in it.

The egg in butter prank was at anyone, because he was not close friends with anyone at that point (besides maybe Chanelle).

There is no contradiction. I literally have the episode paused on my screen and typed that as he spoke. :laugh:

[SarenaW]

I truly don't believe there was anything more to it than just a misread prank. She was the wrong sister to do that kind of thing with.

Agreed! AND I think he only chose Hannah because she was the only one not in bed yet.

[Ant.]

Raph's not a nasty person and probably did feel guilty, but he knew that his most sensitive friend in the house was not gonna take a prank very well as he is an intelligent guy.

This

I can only wonder if this was sneaky payback for calling him two faced

[chuff me dizzy]

Poor Raph, didnt do him any harm in the edit though, it made him look endearing imo

Because he was carrying Teddy ?

[Paula D]

Why the need to go to the diary room and tell BB about it at all?

[Littlegreen]

Too much is being read into silly things atm.

Why the need to go to the diary room and tell BB about it at all?

They may have called him in. We don't have live feed.

[Kazanne]

I disagree...his prank with the eggs was aimed at the majority of the house that were then known as the 'clique' that he did not like. But tonight he said he only pranked his close friends knowing they would take it the right way...that's a contradiction.

rusti,you shouldn't have to keep explaining it, it is quite obvious what you mean,but it will be mainly ignored or people will declare they 'don't understand it' as it's not something they can answer honestly,because some will defend a fave no matter what they do,the classic example is Charlotte supposed 'bitching' but all other housemates are allowed to do it.:joker::joker:

[Kazanne]

Too much is being read into silly things atm.



They may have called him in. We don't have live feed.

Yes,that goes for all the other housemates too !!

[Littlegreen]

rusti,you shouldn't have to keep explaining it, it is quite obvious what you mean,but it will be mainly ignored or people will declare they 'don't understand it' as it's not something they can answer honestly,because some will defend a fave no matter what they do,the classic example is Charlotte supposed 'bitching' but all other housemates are allowed to do it.:joker::joker:

I completely understand.

But it's a bit of a mute point to compare a week 1 prank, when they were still feeling each other out. To a prank with friends 6/7 weeks down the line.

:shrug:

[Beso]

It wasnt much of a prank when he was trying to cover issy with the pillow..he didnt back when she said no several times...he should have been given a warning.

[Littlegreen]

It wasnt much of a prank when he was trying to cover issy with the pillow..he didnt back when she said no several times...he should have been given a warning.

He was rubbing the pillow on her because her perfume would distract from the garlic... :umm2:

[Beso]

He was rubbing the pillow on her because her perfume would distract from the garlic... :umm2:

:shrug: so

She still said no several times but he carried on.

[Littlegreen]

:shrug: so

She still said no several times but he carried on.

Really? I mean really???

:facepalm:

[Beso]

Really? I mean really???

:facepalm:

Ah ok..double standards.

Not ok for andrew or anyone to tickle raph when he says no..but ok for raph to carry on when issy says no.

Headscratching.com

[Northern Monkey]

Oh yeah,That was embarrassing.He basically cracked straight away and admitted it and begged for forgiveness:laugh:

The moral of that story is -

Don't prank if you can't take the reaction

[Littlegreen]

Ah ok..double standards.

Not ok for andrew or anyone to tickle raph when he says no..but ok for raph to carry on when issy says no.

Headscratching.com

Completely different and you know that. :nono:

[chuff me dizzy]

He's had fun with his pranks, including his scares so I don't think it's a big deal. You must get bored in there so he's just keeping himself occupied.

"Boo" scary ?

[chuff me dizzy]

He was rubbing the pillow on her because her perfume would distract from the garlic... :umm2:

No he was rubbing it on her to set the garlic smell off ,and she told him to stop so he should have down so

[Paula D]

I would completely freak out if someone was rubbing garlic on me. The smell makes me retch.

[Vicky.]

As I said in another thread, the 'pranks' this year have been utterly dire and not one of them funny at all. Eggs on the floor, eggs in the butter, ketchup and suncream on the floor, plastic purple mouse in bed and now garlic on pillows. Like, I thought pranks were meant to be funny. Not one of these has been even slightly funny.

[Paula D]

As I said in another thread, the 'pranks' this year have been utterly dire and not one of them funny at all. Eggs on the floor, eggs in the butter, ketchup and suncream on the floor, plastic purple mouse in bed and now garlic on pillows. Like, I thought pranks were meant to be funny. Not one of these has been even slightly funny.

I agree, I actually think Hannah knocking on the window the other night has to be the funniest one so far, and that's bad innit?

[Littlegreen]

I'd still rather see more of these failing pranks than Sam and Ellie repeating their showmance loop.

[Northern Monkey]

We need more spitting in sandwiches and coffee cocktail pranks

[Vicky.]

I agree, I actually think Hannah knocking on the window the other night has to be the funniest one so far, and that's bad innit?

Indeed :laugh:

Edit. Oh I forgot one 'hilarious' prank. Tom shoving a naked Lotan onto Savannah and turning him round so his bumhole was in her face :umm2:

[Paula D]

Indeed :laugh:

Edit. Oh I forgot one 'hilarious' prank. Tom shoving a naked Lotan onto Savannah and turning him round so his bumhole was in her face :umm2:

Oh god yeah.

[Niamh.]

We need more spitting in sandwiches and coffee cocktail pranks

ew gross :laugh:

[Beso]

Indeed :laugh:

Edit. Oh I forgot one 'hilarious' prank. Tom shoving a naked Lotan onto Savannah and turning him round so his bumhole was in her face :umm2:

And ellie fisting toms hoop.

[Beso]

Completely different and you know that. :nono:

Its not actually...one was two mates tickling someone...the other was rubbing minging garlic on someones bed and clothes and hair.....


So if anything the harmless tickling of raph was acceptable compared to this nasty assault.

But you wont see it like that..yoi will see it as raph having his personal space invaded and issy being grumpy or boring.

[rusticgal]

rusti,you shouldn't have to keep explaining it, it is quite obvious what you mean,but it will be mainly ignored or people will declare they 'don't understand it' as it's not something they can answer honestly,because some will defend a fave no matter what they do,the classic example is Charlotte supposed 'bitching' but all other housemates are allowed to do it.:joker::joker:


I know Kaz...it gets frustrating when people come on to a thread and fail to discuss the point raised.
I just need to read into it...and if no one sees the point or discusses it..it's because they don't want to see it...or they can't defend it. :wavey:

[RhysJones]

Raph is a hypocrite talking about people not respecting his personal space, but when he does so to someone else it's fine then. Isabelle said no and to stop numerous times and to target Hannah like that was childish and immature.