Exposed!

[TaylorCallum]

"I'm not really a believer in love, I feel like love is a weakness."

6 weeks later.

"Love is worth more than money."

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[reece(:]

Why can't he just TELL THE TRUTH!!!! At least in the DR or something

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[Merry Mockmas]

Love as in friendship I'm hoping that he meant.

[Kazanne]

"I'm not really a believer in love, I feel like love is a weakness."

6 weeks later.

"Love is worth more than money."

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I pulled up for being petty when I pointed this out today,but he DID say that.

[Littlegreen]

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The power of Chanelle.

[TaylorCallum]

I like him better not believing in love, if he turns sappy I'm unstanning :fan:.

[Parmy]

He is just a slavering wee ****.

[Rustic bauble]

I pulled up for being petty when I pointed this out today,but he DID say that.


Anything said against Raph is considered petty and reaching...:shrug:

He is a walking contradiction...:joker:

[joeysteele]

Love as in friendship I'm hoping that he meant.

Since it would seem he is 'not' in love with anyone at present.
The love of friendship is a different thing altogether.
Exactly Mock.

No big deal at all again.

The love I have for my friends overrides things like personal gain for myself.
I have thus far however avoided falling in love with anyone which is a very different thing that would mean a massive change to my life,likely thinking and independence.

So on that I agree with Raph really more likely than not.

[TaylorCallum]

Since it would seem he is 'not' in love with anyone at present.
The love of friendship is a different thing altogether.
Exactly Mock.

No big deal at all again.

The love I have for my friends overrides things like personal gain for myself.
I have thus far however avoided falling in love with anyone which is a very different thing that would mean a massive change to my life,likely thinking and independence.

So on that agree with Raph really more likely than not.

It was when he was speaking to Chanelle about her boyfriend though so I got the impression he was talking about romantic love?

Not that it actually matters, this thread isn't serious anyway :joker:. After he wins he can explain what he feels about love :flutter:.

[Withano]

I'd say I love most of my friends.. but thats different to loving in the way Disney characters do. I dont think this exposes Raph as a liar, I see where hes coming from.

[Jordan.]

I'd say I love most of my friends.. but thats different to loving in the way Disney characters do. I dont think this exposes Raph as a liar, I see where hes coming from.

But he was talking about Chanelle loving her boyfriend not a friendship love

[Vicky.]

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The power of Chanelle.

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[joeysteele]

I'd say I love most of my friends.. but thats different to loving in the way Disney characters do. I dont think this exposes Raph as a liar, I see where hes coming from.

It doesn't expose him as a liar.I agree with your thinking.

[Withano]

But he was talking about Chanelle loving her boyfriend not a friendship love

Oh. Well I guess hes a filthy liar then. Wheres my pitchfork. Not in my town, Raphael.

[Withano]

It doesn't expose him as a liar.I agree with your thinking.

Tbf, if he said it about Chanelle and her bf, I do kinda take it back haha..

[RhysJones]

Another pack of lies, it's all an illusion to make him seem more relatable. Since how can most of the British public relate to someone who does not believe in love

[Parmy]

Oh. Well I guess hes a filthy liar then. Wheres my pitchfork. Not in my town, Raphael.

When he says love is a weekness and he doesnt believe in it then says something that contradicts that, then one of them has to be a lie..:shrug:

[SarenaW]

Wasn't it established a long time ago that he lied his way through his VT? Why do people try to bring it up still in an attempt at a valid arguementl? Lol.

[jet]

How many BB contestants through all the years have lied or deceived in their VT's? If they are quite ordinary people they kind of have to or they wouldn't be seen as interesting or controversial enough to even be considered.

The game starts with the VT, so I don't see it as 'lying' as such.

[Jordan.]

Wasn't it established a long time ago that he lied his way through his VT? Why do people try to bring it up still in an attempt at a valid arguementl? Lol.

Why do people still use the tired "well his vt was lies" excuse everytime he get's called out for contradicting himself? He's also voiced in the house how he doesn't believe in love and relationships.

[camertone]

"I'm not really a believer in love, I feel like love is a weakness."

6 weeks later.

"Love is worth more than money."

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spot on, well said. raph is a faker.

[RhysJones]

How many BB contestants through all the years have lied or deceived in their VT's? If they are quite ordinary people they kind of have to or they wouldn't be seen as interesting or controversial enough to even be considered.

The game starts with the VT, so I don't see it as 'lying' as such.

Because most people lie in a way to big up how much of a character they are to get picked, Raph has talked about throwing people under the bus, voting for Donald trump and not believing in love. It isn't the same

[jet]

Because most people lie in a way to big up how much of a character they are to get picked, Raph has talked about throwing people under the bus, voting for Donald trump and not believing in love. It isn't the same

Yes it is. It makes him sound controversial, and BB love controversial characters.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Raph himself doesn't believe in love. But he's happy for Chanelle having found love. I think he values friendship love more. But he's still young, so he could find love himself one day.

[joeysteele]

Raph himself doesn't believe in love. But he's happy for Chanelle having found love. I think he values friendship love more. But he's still young, so he could find love himself one day.

That's the way I see it too.

I doubt at best more than a few housemates have stuck to what they said in their VT.
In all series of BB.

Still it's funny I guess all the anti Raph force out again, wondering why anyone takes a deeper look at what was meant.

There are many kinds of love, what Chanelle is being in love.
Raph said he's not a believer in love, even taking that view as Gospel,does not mean he may not still value some kind of love over money.

Of course those anti Raph will never consider any motive of his positive.
Then we get slated for defending him from a more positive perspective of him.

As if we just should listen to the endless anti purges towards him and sit in a corner agreeing.
No way,not at all.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

That's the way I see it too.

I doubt at best mote than a few housemates have stuck to what they said in their VT.
In all series of BB.

Still it's funny I guess all the anti Raph force out again, wondering why anyone takes a deeper look at what was meant.

There are many kinds of love, what Chanelle is being in love.
Raph said he's not a believer in love, even taking that view as Gospel,does not mean he may not still value some kind of love over money.

Of course those anti Raph will never consider any motive of his positive.
Then we get slated for defending him from a more positive perspective of him.

As if we just should listen to the endless anti purges towards him and sit in a corner agreeing.
No way,not at all.
I agree. But I think he himself could meet someone special and fall in love. Ta lest I hope so :love:

[joeysteele]

I agree. But I think he himself could meet someone special and fall in love. Ta lest I hope so :love:

I would guess he will but with being in love brings commitment.

That can be a good or scary thing to some.
It is more scary to me so I avoid that commitment at present.
So for me,maybe that is where Raph is coming from too.

What he has said and to Chanelle does not necessarily signify a contradiction at all,unless nothing else is really looked for as to any deeper reasoning.

[Ellen]

I took it to mean he views being in love as a weakness rather than having love for a family member or friend.

I dont like him as a HM much but i dont think this is something to beat him with tbh.

[chuff me dizzy]

He will say anything he thinks will win him the show ....Slimeball !!

[Denver]

He is destined to live a lonely life

[joeysteele]

I took it to mean he views being in love as a weakness rather than having love for a family member or friend.

I dont like him as a HM much but i dont think this is something to beat him with tbh.

Very fair of you Ellen to say and contribute that.

That is how I take it too.

[joeysteele]

He is destined to live a lonely life

Why, I'm 25 but feel much the same as he appears to.

I may alter my thinking as years go by as Raph possibly may too.

I know in family or just generally single people who seem perfectly happy and have loads of friends.
I equally know people married who walk around as if they had the world on their shoulders and are often really miserable.

Depends on the individual, it doesn't have to be that everyone to not be lonely has to be in fully committed relationships.
To some that can lead to unhappiness and loneliness just as for others it brings near total happiness.

[Mitchell]

Raph himself doesn't believe in love. But he's happy for Chanelle having found love. I think he values friendship love more. But he's still young, so he could find love himself one day.

Exactly this, I am similar, I have hope, but I am more pessimistic, but if a friend is in love I couldn't be happier for them!

[Littlegreen]

"The power of love a force from above..."

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[Parmy]

I agree. But I think he himself could meet someone special and fall in love. Ta lest I hope so :love:

He has a wonderful track record in relationships..like cheating numerous times.

He will never find love and diminishes it because he hasnt got a clue what it is..

[ChristmasNeeve]

Housemate in Lied in their VT shocker :o

[Lewismacfarlane]

He said he was only in for the experience but was quick enough to hit the button for money

[ChristmasNeeve]

He said he was only in for the experience but was quick enough to hit the button for money

During the task? trying to win tasks is a big part of the experience though

[Shaun]

he LIED IN HIS VT?!?!?!?!?!!?

[Littlegreen]

During the task? trying to win tasks is a big part of the experience though

It's like banging your head against a wall sometimes, isn't it?

[Paula D]

It's like banging your head against a wall sometimes, isn't it?

What is? Blindly defending your fav no matter what they do? Yes it is I suppose. Only so many ways you can twist things in his favour.

[Jordan.]

Did he even lie in his VT? Watching it back he's pretty much shared the same views in the house.

[Kazanne]

What is? Blindly defending your fav no matter what they do? Yes it is I suppose. Only so many ways you can twist things in his favour.

:clap1::clap1:Well said.

[Littlegreen]

What is? Blindly defending your fav no matter what they do? Yes it is I suppose. Only so many ways you can twist things in his favour.

When something that is quite simple/harmless, gets twisted to serve a certain negative connotation. That's what becomes monotonous.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

:clap1:When something that is quite simple/harmless, gets twisted to serve a certain negative connotation. That's what becomes monotonous.

[LukeB]

Housemate in Lied in their VT shocker :o

Shocking indeed :o

[joeysteele]

What is? Blindly defending your fav no matter what they do? Yes it is I suppose. Only so many ways you can twist things in his favour.

Blindly getting at someone for pathetic non events is also tiresome.
Do we just have to let you and the rest of them that applaud posts like yours, just grind someone into the mud and say nothing.

What's the point of BB and having and supporting favourites at all if we have to shut up, while others spill their unfair bile in thread after thread, getting applauded for it too.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Can you all please keep it about the HMs and not eachother please, anymore of that in this thread and I'll be infracting people

[ChristmasNeeve]

Thread closed people cannot seem to keep discussions about HMs