Raph confronting Andrew about what Josie told him

[Vanessa]

I thought he handled it brilliantly. No shouting or getting angry. He just asked him if what she said was true and Andrew said it wasn't.
Glad they're still friends, even though they don't always agree. And they didn't nominate each other.

[Niamh.]

I was shouting at the TV though saying "It was Charlotte who said it" I was wondering if Andrew didn't remember that or if he just didn't want to grass Charlotte up :laugh:

[Cal.]

Yeah it's annoying me how it was Charlotte!

[chuff me dizzy]

I was shouting at the TV though saying "It was Charlotte who said it" I was wondering if Andrew didn't remember that or if he just didn't want to grass Charlotte up :laugh:

Raph went for the weak option,he wont confront Charlotte as she would eat him up and spit him out

[Paula D]

Raph went for the weak option,he wont confront Charlotte as she would eat him up and spit him out

Yeah, I was kind of wondering that. Why hasn't he approached Charlotte?

[Crimson Dynamo]

watching/listening them 2 speak to each other is horrific

[Beso]

Raph went for the weak option,he wont confront Charlotte as she would eat him up and spit him out

He almost burst into tears when andrew suggeated he do just that.

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah, I was kind of wondering that. Why hasn't he approached Charlotte?

Because she wont take his **** and will tell him straight ...He chose Andrew ( camera time ) because he knows he can give Andrew the come on eyes and Andrew wont shout or put him in his place ,he's a coward to sum it all up

[chuff me dizzy]

He almost burst into tears when andrew suggeated he do just that.

Didn't he just :unsure::worry: Raph **** a kidney

[Niamh.]

Raph went for the weak option,he wont confront Charlotte as she would eat him up and spit him out

I think Josie told him that it was Andrew who said it though? I need to watch that video back

[chuff me dizzy]

I think Josie told him that it was Andrew who said it though? I need to watch that video back

Josie said they both had said it

[Littlegreen]

People have whined on here about him supposedly being "two faced" or a "snake", yet there he was confronting the issue face to face.

But of course there is always something else to use to spin it into a negative.

[Vladimir]

Very subtle as always :clap1:

[Paula D]

People have whined on here about him supposedly being "two faced" or a "snake", yet there he was confronting the issue face to face.

But of course there is always something else to use to spin it into a negative.

Well why hasn't he spoken to Charlotte so?

[chuff me dizzy]

People have whined on here about him supposedly being "two faced" or a "snake", yet there he was confronting the issue face to face.

But of course there is always something else to use to spin it into a negative.

Did we miss and you catch the part where he confronted Charlotte, a strong and straight talking woman ? I only caught the clip of him asking nicely a chap who fancies him

[rusticgal]

Andrew suggested he talk to Charlotte...but he won't.

[Littlegreen]

Did we miss and you catch the part where he confronted Charlotte, a strong and straight talking woman ? I only caught the clip of him asking nicely a chap who fancies him

He may still do yet, but the reason he confronted Andrew (sans Charlotte) was because Raph had assumed he would have been Andrew's choice for eviction (based on Josie saying Andrew called him a "gameplayer") so he had it out to diffuse the confusion.

[Paula D]

He may still do yet, but the reason he confronted Andrew (sans Charlotte) was because Raph had assumed he would have been Andrew's choice for eviction (based on Josie saying Andrew called him a "gameplayer") so he had it out to diffuse the confusion.

Ah so he was ****ting himself coming up to nominations also? Ah I see.

[chuff me dizzy]

He may still do yet, but the reason he confronted Andrew (sans Charlotte) was because Raph had assumed he would have been Andrew's choice for eviction (based on Josie saying Andrew called him a "gameplayer") so he had it out to diffuse the confusion.

Utter bs

[chuff me dizzy]

Ah so he was ****ting himself coming up to nominations also? Ah I see.

:clap1:

[Littlegreen]

Ah so he was ****ting himself coming up to nominations also? Ah I see.

Do you think him actually speaking to Andrew was the right thing, or not?

...or is this just another thing where because it wasn't Charlotte all credit is lost?

[Littlegreen]

Utter bs

Do you even listen when you watch the show. A few on here even thought Andrew would evict Raph!

[chuff me dizzy]

Do you even listen when you watch the show. A few on here even thought Andrew would evict Raph!

A "Few on here" defend Raph no matter what he's done ,Yes i listen and look and Im still waiting for a clip where Snake Boy confronted a woman he knew would tell him straight

[Beso]

People have whined on here about him supposedly being "two faced" or a "snake", yet there he was confronting the issue face to face.

But of course there is always something else to use to spin it into a negative.

Did he go there first or did he tell his clique what josie had said first? Then did he go to andrew or did he discuss it with his clique?

Has he fully dealt with it yet by talking to andrew or has he avoided confronting charlotte?

[joeysteele]

I think Josie told him that it was Andrew who said it though? I need to watch that video back

Raph was left with the view Andrew had said it.

Really his better aim would have been to get Andrew and Charlotte together and ask them about it.

He was led to think Andrew had said it.
As for why Andrew would not tell him he was mistaken and it was Charlotte who said it.
That's the question I'd be asking Andrew.

Then again,did we see the whole conversation anyway or were bits cut out where Andrew may have indeed agreed and supported the view.

Maybe Josie and indeed some on bbbots who blamed Andrew too, saw what may have been edited out.
There was not a single thing wrong for Andrew to simply say,''i didn't say anything it was Charlotte''.

No one would accuse me of something I hadn't said which someone else did for sure.

[point17]

watching/listening them 2 speak to each other is horrific

It was pretty cringe. I'm a Raph fan because of his superfan status and connection to here, but as a viewer he is a lot weaker than Chanelle, Isabelle, Hannah and Deborah which is a shame.

And as a gamer to tell people "I would never have pressed the buzzer and left it to fate".. that's not what I wanted to hear

[Niamh.]

Raph was left with the view Andrew had said it.

Really his better aim would have been to get Andrew and Charlotte together and ask them about it.

He was led to think Andrew had said it.
As for why Andrew would not tell him he was mistaken and it was Charlotte who said it.
That's the question I'd be asking Andrew.

Then again,did we see the whole conversation anyway or were bits cut out where Andrew may have indeed agreed and supported the view.

Maybe Josie and indeed some on bbbots who blamed Andrew too, saw what may have been edited out.
There was not a single thing wrong for Andrew to simply say,''i didn't say anything it was Charlotte''.

No one would accuse me of something I hadn't said which someone else did for sure.

Yeah Raph seemed to think that it was Andrew who said everything and that Charlotte had just listened and agreed but in reality it was the other way round. I can understand why Andrew wouldn't want to throw Charlotte under the bus though because they're good friends

[chuff me dizzy]

Lets be honest for once, Raph took the easy option,the sign of a coward

[Littlegreen]

It was pretty cringe. I'm a Raph fan because of his superfan status and connection to here, but as a viewer he is a lot weaker than Chanelle, Isabelle, Hannah and Deborah which is a shame.

And as a gamer to tell people "I would never have pressed the buzzer and left it to fate".. that's not what I wanted to hear

The buzzer part isn't what he had a problem with, it was evicting Sam to get the extra money.

Andrew being the last remaining second-chance housemate is what Raph feels should have been left to fate. (As in we the public voting for it.)

[rusticgal]

The buzzer part isn't what he had a problem with, it was evicting Sam to get the extra money.

Andrew being the last remaining second-chance housemate is what Raph feels should have been left to fate. (As in we the public voting for it.)

The money is important to some people...Raph shouldn't be so judgemental.
It's a game...SAMs only just realised he should have done the same thing. They would ALL have done it...caring and sharing isn't the name of the game.
Raph just tried to make Andrew look bad..but he is the one who looks bitter.

[Vanessa]

Raph doesn't know that it was Charlotte who said it. Josie told him that it was Andrew. Andrew hasn't told him either that it was Charlotte.

[Paula D]

Raph doesn't know that it was Charlotte who said it. Josie told him that it was Andrew. Andrew hasn't told him either that it was Charlotte.

I did think that it was funny when Andrew was trying to diplomatically say that maybe the "other" person said it. Bless him, he was trying to protect Charlotte, he didn't throw her totally under the bus. :laugh::laugh:

But still Raph didn't question Charlotte on it. That annoyed me.

[Vanessa]

I did think that it was funny when Andrew was trying to diplomatically say that maybe the "other" person said it. Bless him, he was trying to protect Charlotte, he didn't throw her totally under the bus. :laugh::laugh:

But still Raph didn't question Charlotte on it. That annoyed me.
Maybe he will. I don't think charlotte would kick off about it. They would probably talk it through.

[Jedman]

Pretty sure raph said he already spoke to charlotte and she said she didn't know anything about it.