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RhysJones
21-07-2017, 12:13 AM
Why when Andrew was dying Raph's hair, did he tell Hannah to get like he owned the bloody place. What was so bad about someone being there and then asking Andrew to do it in the toilet with him. All slightly bizarre, rude and immature i think

Jordan.
21-07-2017, 12:14 AM
A girl needed to highlight in peace

http://oi56.tinypic.com/jinx91.jpg

SarenaW
21-07-2017, 12:15 AM
I think he was afraid of being teased by her or making comments about Andrew's crush on him. He just wanted to get his hair done and get out of there without it being made into a deal.

Vicky.
21-07-2017, 12:15 AM
Yeah was really weird :laugh:

Ant.
21-07-2017, 12:45 AM
I think he was afraid of being teased by her or making comments about Andrew's crush on him. He just wanted to get his hair done and get out of there without it being made into a deal.

Wasn't it Hannah that held Raph to help Andrew lick his ear? In that case, I can see why he might be wary of being alone with the two of them, but part of me doubts that's the reason. I am curious though, since he's established he's close with Hannah - definitely more so than Andrew

Merry Mockmas
21-07-2017, 12:58 AM
Raph was rude.

Tbf to him though I bet that he didn't expect Andrew to use it as a nomination reason afterwards.:joker:

Withano
21-07-2017, 01:04 AM
So weird

Remember when Tim used to shave his chest under the bedsheets so people wouldnt know he was ginger

Paula D
21-07-2017, 02:59 AM
I thought it was very rude and weird.

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Santa's NaughtiNess
21-07-2017, 03:35 AM
Raph a secret ginger? :laugh:

arista
21-07-2017, 05:20 AM
I think he was afraid of being teased by her or making comments about Andrew's crush on him. He just wanted to get his hair done and get out of there without it being made into a deal.


yes Hannah - Trouble

church freak

Santa's NaughtiNess
21-07-2017, 05:41 AM
Wasn't it Hannah that held Raph to help Andrew lick his ear? In that case, I can see why he might be wary of being alone with the two of them, but part of me doubts that's the reason. I am curious though, since he's established he's close with Hannah - definitely more so than Andrew

I think so. Look what happened the last time D:

chuff me dizzy
21-07-2017, 08:13 AM
How bloody arrogant and rude ? Who does he think he is ? and she's "supposed" to be his friend, his mask slipped last night and behind it was ugliness and nastiness Oh and a ginger hair dye

Nicky91
21-07-2017, 08:15 AM
wow Raph, i like this side from him :hee:

joeysteele
21-07-2017, 08:45 AM
It came across a little bizarre.

However as has been pointed out he had an incident before with both Andrew and Hannah as to the locking incident.

Also being a prankster he may have felt a prank was coming possibly.
Anyway letting Andrew do his hair was maybe not his best idea anyway.
He might have wanted to press Andrew more on the his friendship with Charlotte incident.

A bit bizarre, ammunition for the tear him to pieces brigade.
However all that,I'd have let Hannah stay but I wouldn't have let Andrew do my hair anyway.

It all pales big-time by the exchange later between Hannah and Andrew later.

Paula D
21-07-2017, 08:48 AM
I notice a distinct lack of Raph defence on this one, thank god. That's a good thing, people are finally realising that no he's not perfect and in fact that he has quite a nasty side.

chuff me dizzy
21-07-2017, 08:48 AM
It came across a little bizarre.

However as has been pointed out he had an incident before with both Andrew and Hannah as to the locking incident.

Also being a prankster he may have felt a prank was coming possibly.
Anyway letting Andrew do his hair was maybe not his best idea anyway.
He might have wanted to press Andrew more on the his friendship with Charlotte incident.

A bit bizarre, ammunition for the tear him to pieces brigade.
However all that,I'd have let Hannah stay but I wouldn't have let Andrew do my hair anyway.

It all pales big-time by the exchange later between Hannah and Andrew later.

He left himself wide open for it Joey ,the spite in his eyes was not the image he usually rams down our neck of a little boy lost

chuff me dizzy
21-07-2017, 08:48 AM
I notice a distinct lack of Raph defence on this one, thank god. That's a good thing, people are finally realising that no he's not perfect and in fact that he has quite a nasty side.

Indefensible

Paula D
21-07-2017, 08:51 AM
Indefensible

Jaysus chuff, we're agreeing a lot this morning. :joker:

Something is wrong.

Paula D
21-07-2017, 08:52 AM
He left himself wide open for it Joey ,the spite in his eyes was not the image he usually rams down our neck of a little boy lost

And his "why are you here?". Who the fook does he think he is?

chuff me dizzy
21-07-2017, 09:00 AM
And his "why are you here?". Who the fook does he think he is?

I would have sat there if I had been Hannah and let him flounce off to the toilet with his "mate"

Underscore
21-07-2017, 09:04 AM
He's so rude to ma sistas

Littlegreen
21-07-2017, 09:08 AM
Raph I believe is naturally Auburn (you can see it in the light).

- Why do you think Hannah was asking Raph "Is this your natural hair colour?"...

She was attempting to embarrass/belittle him, as he was dying his hair brown to cover the red tint.

Morgan.
21-07-2017, 09:09 AM
It wasn't rude or nasty. He was just wanting his hair done alone, and besides maybe he needed to talk to Andrew about something. And Hannah was practically interrogating him about his natural colour.

Littlegreen
21-07-2017, 09:11 AM
Indefensible

"Indefensible"

Sure because we actually have to defend somebody wanting to have their hair coloured in private?

Morgan.
21-07-2017, 09:11 AM
Raph I believe is naturally Auburn (you can see it in the light).

- Why do you think Hannah was asking Raph "Is this your natural hair colour?"...

She was attempting to embarrass/belittle him, as he was dying his hair brown to cover the red tint.

I was auburn up until about a year and a half ago. I was so close to dying it and then people were like 'why aren't you ginger anymore did you dye it' and I was like '1) I didn't even realise and 2) it's auburn not ginger'. Since then it's been naturally starting to go brown.

Time to Sleigh
21-07-2017, 09:14 AM
maybe so hannah didnt get jealous that raph has his own hair.

sorry haha i love hannah

Littlegreen
21-07-2017, 09:14 AM
I was auburn up until about a year and a half ago. I was so close to dying it and then people were like 'why aren't you ginger anymore did you dye it' and I was like '1) I didn't even realise and 2) it's auburn not ginger'. Since then it's been naturally starting to go brown.

I like the colour.

But I know how self-conscious having red hair can make people, my younger brother has been dying his hair dark brown since he was thirteen!

I knew straight away Hannah was trying to make him uncomfortable, maybe I should have started a thread bashing her, eh? (Not my style though.)

Ellen
21-07-2017, 09:16 AM
Very rude of him :nono:

Paula D
21-07-2017, 09:22 AM
"Indefensible"

Sure because we actually have to defend somebody wanting to have their hair coloured in private?

No, you have to defend him being rude and arrogant to Hannah.

Paula D
21-07-2017, 09:24 AM
Raph I believe is naturally Auburn (you can see it in the light).

- Why do you think Hannah was asking Raph "Is this your natural hair colour?"...

She was attempting to embarrass/belittle him, as he was dying his hair brown to cover the red tint.

He's surrounded by bleeding cameras!!! You can't have a "confidential hair dye" when you're on BB.

Paula D
21-07-2017, 09:24 AM
maybe so hannah didnt get jealous that raph has his own hair.

sorry haha i love hannah

I know you're trying to be funny but you do know that Hannah has hair right?

Underscore
21-07-2017, 09:27 AM
The cameras are going to pick it up anyway whats so personal about dying your hair god

Santa's NaughtiNess
21-07-2017, 09:27 AM
I think Raph was feeling a bit self conscious about the colour of his hair. It was a bit bizarre, but him and Hannah are close friends and I'm sure she won't hold it against him.

Littlegreen
21-07-2017, 09:30 AM
He's surrounded by bleeding cameras!!! You can't have a "confidential hair dye" when you're on BB.

But you should be allowed to have it without a so-called "friend" making you feel uncomfortable.

chuff me dizzy
21-07-2017, 09:31 AM
He's so rude to ma sistas

Are you related to the Kray sisters ?

chuff me dizzy
21-07-2017, 09:37 AM
He's surrounded by bleeding cameras!!! You can't have a "confidential hair dye" when you're on BB.

:clap1: A "man" dyeing his hair :umm2: I would divorce my hubby on the spot .... And I thought Raph didn't like Andrew touching him ? Soon changed his tune

Christmas Dynasnow
21-07-2017, 09:38 AM
It was rude, creepy and selfish

Littlegreen
21-07-2017, 09:45 AM
:clap1: A "man" dyeing his hair :umm2: I would divorce my hubby on the spot .... And I thought Raph didn't like Andrew touching him ? Soon changed his tune

There you go. Exactly why he wanted done in "private".

Ant.
21-07-2017, 09:48 AM
:clap1: A "man" dyeing his hair :umm2: I would divorce my hubby on the spot ....

You never fail to surprise, chuff

Christmas Dynasnow
21-07-2017, 09:49 AM
:clap1: A "man" dyeing his hair :umm2: I would divorce my hubby on the spot .... And I thought Raph didn't like Andrew touching him ? Soon changed his tune

Its sheer vanity and trying to be like his idols, ie any woman who treats him like a bitch

ChristmasNeeve
21-07-2017, 09:52 AM
:clap1: A "man" dyeing his hair :umm2: I would divorce my hubby on the spot .... And I thought Raph didn't like Andrew touching him ? Soon changed his tune

Seriously? fgs

chuff me dizzy
21-07-2017, 10:15 AM
Seriously? fgs

100% I would

ChristmasNeeve
21-07-2017, 10:19 AM
100% I would

You would divorce your husband for something as superficial as dying his hair? Really? :laugh: My son dyed his hair blue a couple of weeks ago

chuff me dizzy
21-07-2017, 10:34 AM
You would divorce your husband for something as superficial as dying his hair? Really? :laugh: My son dyed his hair blue a couple of weeks ago

It would turn me right off him if he dyed his hair ,its just not manly IMO ,but each to their own

RhysJones
21-07-2017, 11:05 AM
Raph I believe is naturally Auburn (you can see it in the light).

- Why do you think Hannah was asking Raph "Is this your natural hair colour?"...

She was attempting to embarrass/belittle him, as he was dying his hair brown to cover the red tint.

She was asking him 'is this your natural hair colour?' Where's the harm in that, how can you reach that she's trying to embarrass him when he was the one being rude to her

Paula D
21-07-2017, 11:09 AM
She was asking him 'is this your natural hair colour?' Where's the harm in that, how can you reach that she's trying to embarrass him when he was the one being rude to her

Because Raphy is a saint Rhys didn't you know? If he's rude to someone there's a deep and meaningful reason and they deserved it.

ChristmasNeeve
21-07-2017, 11:11 AM
Because Raphy is a saint Rhys didn't you know? If he's rude to someone there's a deep and meaningful reason and they deserved it.

People complain that members on here do this but these kind of baity comments don't help much tbf

chuff me dizzy
21-07-2017, 11:12 AM
There you go. Exactly why he wanted done in "private".

He was more than happy to do it in the bathroom surrounded by cameras until Hannah came in

Paula D
21-07-2017, 11:13 AM
People complain that members on here do this but these kind of baity comments don't help much tbf

Fair enough. I just wish there was more objective posting done.

RhysJones
21-07-2017, 11:13 AM
I like the colour.

But I know how self-conscious having red hair can make people, my younger brother has been dying his hair dark brown since he was thirteen!

I knew straight away Hannah was trying to make him uncomfortable, maybe I should have started a thread bashing her, eh? (Not my style though.)

This isn't a thread bashing Raph, this is a forum to discuss the housemates actions and that's exactly what this thread is. Unfortunately for you, your bating comment didn't work this time

Littlegreen
21-07-2017, 11:14 AM
Paula don't be sarky.

She was asking him 'is this your natural hair colour?' Where's the harm in that, how can you reach that she's trying to embarrass him when he was the one being rude to her

If he's a natural redhead he may have a complex, the fact he chose a darker brown hair dye points to that.

chuff me dizzy
21-07-2017, 11:14 AM
This isn't a thread bashing Raph, this is a forum to discuss the housemates actions and that's exactly what this thread is. Unfortunately for you, your bating comment didn't work this time

:clap1:

ChristmasNeeve
21-07-2017, 11:16 AM
Fair enough. I just wish there was more objective posting done.

Well it happens every year with peoples favourites, this isn't unusual, people make excuses for their faves or can see the good easier because they like them. I've been posting a bit on DS this year and imo Raph gets a harder time on TiBB than he does over there and i think that's also because he's a member here so it works both ways I think

joeysteele
21-07-2017, 11:17 AM
I don't think anyone is even implying how she was told to go was particularly appropriate.
We do not see the build up to things like this,we only get the tiny snapshot.

We don't know what she was saying or doing before we joined the action.
Hannah herself can be very off at times with people often inappropriately at times too.

Creating uproar where none needs to be,the toy mouse incident one that stands out strongly this series.
She does also seemingly go out her way to play a race or discrimination card with people too.

The problem with BB as to all housemates,we only get the BB edit shown,never the whole content of build up as to any of them really.

Even Deborah her Sister,appears to get exasperated with Hannah at times.

Littlegreen
21-07-2017, 11:18 AM
This isn't a thread bashing Raph, this is a forum to discuss the housemates actions and that's exactly what this thread is. Unfortunately for you, your bating comment didn't work this time

Speaking the truth, isn't baiting.

Perhaps he should have said "Hannah please could I have five minutes to dye my hair, because as a male we tend to get judged for these type of things and I feel embarrassed having you right there gawking at me..."

smudgie
21-07-2017, 11:25 AM
He asked her to go, she wouldn't, she only changed her mind when he said they would go to the toilets to get away from her.
I have no idea at all the reason he didn't want her there, but he asked politely and she could have obliged instead of it becoming an issue.

chuff me dizzy
21-07-2017, 11:35 AM
Speaking the truth, isn't baiting.

Perhaps he should have said "Hannah please could I have five minutes to dye my hair, because as a male we tend to get judged for these type of things and I feel embarrassed having you right there gawking at me..."

But he had no right to tell her to leave

Paula D
21-07-2017, 11:41 AM
He asked her to go, she wouldn't, she only changed her mind when he said they would go to the toilets to get away from her.
I have no idea at all the reason he didn't want her there, but he asked politely and she could have obliged instead of it becoming an issue.

He didn't ask politely, that's the issue. His actual words were "why are you here", like she wasn't allowed to be in the bathroom. And it was said with a nasty face on him.

TaylorCallum
21-07-2017, 11:41 AM
:clap1: A "man" dyeing his hair :umm2: I would divorce my hubby on the spot .... And I thought Raph didn't like Andrew touching him ? Soon changed his tune

Welcome to the 21st century. Hope you enjoy your stay!

Withano
21-07-2017, 11:42 AM
Raph I believe is naturally Auburn (you can see it in the light).

- Why do you think Hannah was asking Raph "Is this your natural hair colour?"...

She was attempting to embarrass/belittle him, as he was dying his hair brown to cover the red tint.

(I think its the opposite?... dying his hair auburn to hide the brown)

chuff me dizzy
21-07-2017, 11:51 AM
He didn't ask politely, that's the issue. His actual words were "why are you here", like she wasn't allowed to be in the bathroom. And it was said with a nasty face on him.

VERY nasty face that he's hidden for weeks, did he want one to one time with his "mate"Andrew ? you know, the one he doesn't like touching him

Christmas Dynasnow
21-07-2017, 12:17 PM
VERY nasty face that he's hidden for weeks, did he want one to one time with his "mate"Andrew ? you know, the one he doesn't like touching him

yes

he turned on her like a snarling dog and at last we saw the real side. Bitter, angry, jealous, vain and petty

vile to watch and I hope at least apologised?

joeysteele
21-07-2017, 12:20 PM
VERY nasty face that he's hidden for weeks, did he want one to one time with his "mate"Andrew ? you know, the one he doesn't like touching him

That doesn't make any sense, sorry.

With the cameras on all housemates all the time,how can any hm think they can get only one on one time with any other,whether they want to or not.

Parallel
21-07-2017, 12:31 PM
I kinda get the impression that Raph has a thing about control - Obviously Andrew was in charge of dyeing his hair and asking Hannah to leave and then when she didn't want to, asking Andrew to dye his hair in the toilet as a way of controlling the situation. I don't think he's a controlling person, but I don't think he was very comfortable getting his hair dyed by Andrew and possibly saw it as a weakness, which is why he didn't want her around.

RhysJones
21-07-2017, 12:41 PM
Speaking the truth, isn't baiting.

Perhaps he should have said "Hannah please could I have five minutes to dye my hair, because as a male we tend to get judged for these type of things and I feel embarrassed having you right there gawking at me..."

Now you're suggesting Hannah is a sexist or something, well done. And loads of guys especially younger guys dye their hair, it's not something totally out there to do for a guy

Littlegreen
21-07-2017, 12:43 PM
But he had no right to tell her to leave

He didn't, he just questioned her on why she was sat gawping. She eventually caught on that she was making the situation awkward and took herself out.

She's lived with Raph for 8 weeks, she knows what he's like.