Who will the 'older women' vote go to?

[Withano]

They're underrepresented online, so winner of this poll is probs in with a shot of winning

Can't call it myself
Could be Debs cos she's more relateable
Could be Tom cos he's technically good looking
Could be Raph cos he's the nice guy
Could be Issy cos surely they like good TV sometimes

Who do ya think?

[Morgan.]

Raph I think

[Underscore]

Deborah.

She's more socially acceptable than the others, and we all know old people are scarily socially conservative

[Paula D]

Jesus Christ the ageism on here is unreal. :fist::fist::fist::fist::fist:

Just remember we were watching BB while most of you were still in nappies.

Get a grip.

[Jannigran]

As an older woman it has to be Isobel x

[Withano]

Jesus Christ the ageism on here is unreal. :fist::fist::fist::fist::fist:

Just remember we were watching BB while most of you were still in nappies.

Get a grip.

Saying the words older woman isnt ageist :umm2: there are several different demographics that watch big brother, and they tend to vote differently to one another.
Get a grip, indeed.

[smudgie]

As a woman in her prime, I would say Raph and Issy.

[Littlegreen]

Probably Tom, but I'm hoping Raph.

[Vanessa]

I'm an older woman and Raph has always stood out to me. Because he's so polite :love:

[Cherie]

Do all gay people vote the same way, just wondering

in answer to the question I would imagine the vote will be split between Isabelle, Tom, Deborah and Raph

[storybrooke]

I think Tom

[Paula D]

Saying the words older woman isnt ageist :umm2: there are several different demographics that watch big brother, and they tend to vote differently to one another.
Get a grip, indeed.

1. "They're under represented online??" Ageism
2. "Surely they like good TV sometimes??" Ageism

Would it be okay for me to start a thread asking how gay people are going to vote or how black people are going to vote? No.

[Cherie]

1. "They're under represented online??" Ageism
2. "Surely they like good TV sometimes??" Ageism

Would it be okay for me to start a thread asking how gay people are going to vote or how black people are going to vote? No.

:dance: no you wouldn't Paula in fact you would probably be infracted.

[Paula D]

:dance: no you wouldn't Paula in fact you would probably be infracted.

Precisely. And I will be reporting any further ageism.

[Babayaro.]

Cat lady thread 2.0??

[Cherie]

Cat lady thread 2.0??

As cat ladies is banned Withano is obviously desperate to find some other stereotype to bash us with :idc:

[Greg!]

I got infracted for saying c*t l****s earlier :skull:

[Greg!]

I don't think this is ageist at all and for the record I would not be offended by a "who will the gays vote for" thread

[BBUK-Fan]

It depends.
Raph because he is cuter.

[Babayaro.]

I got infracted for saying c*t l****s earlier :skull:

welp pray for me :worry:

[Cherie]

I got infracted for saying c*t l****s earlier :skull:

:joker:

I don't think this is ageist at all and for the record I would not be offended by a "who will the gays vote for" thread

do all gays vote the same way, in all honesty I can't say that they would

[Nancy.]

Jesus Christ the ageism on here is unreal. :fist::fist::fist::fist::fist:

Just remember we were watching BB while most of you were still in nappies.

Get a grip.

1. "They're under represented online??" Ageism
2. "Surely they like good TV sometimes??" Ageism.

As cat ladies is banned Withano is obviously desperate to find some other stereotype to bash us with :idc:

:clap1: :clap1:

[Cherie]

welp pray for me :worry:

I foresee a months ban in your future, all older women are fortune telling witches as well. :hee:

[Kazanne]

What a backhanded insult that OP is,we might be older ,but we aint stupid enough not to see what your game is:smug:

[Dominic]

There's nothing ageist about this wtf :umm2: Stereotypes exist, deal with it, groups of people like older women, gays etc tend to vote for the same person, there's nothing wrong with speculating who it is.

[Paula D]

Not Withano realising that the older woman is not under represented online. :joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Withano]

Question clearly asks who they would typically vote for, and its a multiple choice selection for those who believe that they do not all vote in the same way.

[Withano]

As cat ladies is banned Withano is obviously desperate to find some other stereotype to bash us with :idc:

Completely absurd, I've never used the phrase 'cat lady' to describe the older woman vote.

[Paula D]

There's nothing ageist about this wtf :umm2: Stereotypes exist, deal with it, groups of people like older women, gays etc tend to vote for the same person, there's nothing wrong with speculating who it is.

Do the gays get insulted at the same time?

Had the question simply been Who do you think older women will vote for? That would be fine.

Not who do you think older women will vote for because they can't use computers and they've crap taste OP.

See the difference?

[Cherie]

Completely absurd I've never used the phrased 'cat lady' to describe the older woman vote.

oh ha ha

[Morgan.]

Do the gays get insulted at the same time?

Had the question simply been Who do you think older women will vote for? That would be fine.

Not who do you think older women will vote for because they can't use computers and they've crap taste OP.

See the difference?

But I don't see the older generation typically casting their bbspy Pop poll vote. That's what Withano means.

[bots]

Actually, i think BB is more geared to the younger target audience these days. Not many people outwith that demographic will have bothered to watch or vote for the cast this year.

[Ant.]

Obviously demographics aren't a hive mind and don't vote for one person, but I've seen more of the older generation prefer Tom

[Cherie]

Actually, i think BB is more geared to the younger target audience these days. Not many people outwith that demographic will have bothered to watch or vote for the cast this year.


which is why it is a mess

[Cherie]

Obviously demographics aren't a hive mind and don't vote for one person, but I've seen more of the older generation prefer Tom

how do you know their ages.. :suspect: I mean I have no clue what age you are you could be anything 20 to 30 ...no idea

[Dominic]

Do the gays get insulted at the same time?

Had the question simply been Who do you think older women will vote for? That would be fine.

Not who do you think older women will vote for because they can't use computers and they've crap taste OP.

See the difference?
There's a big difference between saying they get underrepresented and that they can't use computers? I think it's pretty obvious tellymix and bbspy polls are voted by mostly younger people? You are blowing it out of proportion imo :shrug:

[Samm]

Do all gay people vote the same way, just wondering


Yes #Gays4Issy

[Kazanne]

I remember a few on here getting arsey when I said something like "It's the school holidays" insinuating there were kids on here,they didn't like it, so why should we,besides nothing said about middle aged men !!!

[Ant.]

how do you know their ages.. :suspect: I mean I have no clue what age you are you could be anything 20 to 30 ...no idea

:spin:

[Tom4784]

I don't think there's anything wrong with talking about demographics, I can't see any negative remarks from Withano regarding older women. I can't really see anything wrong with the thread. The only insults towards other members I've had to deal with in this thread are from people who have insulted the OP.

[Ant.]

I don't think there's anything wrong with talking about demographics, I can't see any negative remarks from Withano regarding older women. I can't really see anything wrong with the thread. The only insults towards other members I've had to deal with in this thread are from people who have insulted the OP.

.

[Kazanne]

how do you know their ages.. :suspect: I mean I have no clue what age you are you could be anything 20 to 30 ...no idea

Now IF I answer "more like 10",they would be offended,so why do they think it's ok to do it to older people.

[Underscore]

I mean you've just got to look at the demographics, it's fact.

Older people way more likely to vote conservative than younger people who mainly (rightly or wrongly) vote Labour

Older people way more likely to be socially conservative than younger people who mainly are socially liberal.

It's just generational gaps, and they use that in politics to predict how people are going to vote. If you apply the social conservatism figure to this, you'd end up with Deborah seen as she's the more held back one.

[Underscore]

I don't think there's anything wrong with talking about demographics, I can't see any negative remarks from Withano regarding older women. I can't really see anything wrong with the thread. The only insults towards other members I've had to deal with in this thread are from people who have insulted the OP.

:clap1:

[Withano]

Actually, i think BB is more geared to the younger target audience these days. Not many people outwith that demographic will have bothered to watch or vote for the cast this year.

I think its trying to be. I did see a post on here recently with an article that explains the viewer demographic of Bb, and it was mostly older women, but I cant for the life of me find that post. I dont believe tibb is mostly older women, so I thought it made an interesting question. 'Who is bothering to vote', would also be an interesting question, but I cant cope with another backlash!

[bots]

With respect, its not for younger folks to say whether older people are offended by the comments or descriptions or not. If people take offence to it, they should be more thoughtful on how they express themselves

[Paula D]

My mistake, I forgot 13 year olds posted on here. The very reason I won't be back after this series.

[Withano]

My mistake, I forgot 13 year olds posted on here. The very reason I won't be back after this series.

Not actual ageism

[Babayaro.]

Not actual ageism

welp

[Paula D]

Not actual ageism

I'll take that and any infraction that goes with it. I'll be glad to be banned if someone learns some respect from it.

[Vicky.]

I would disagree with that tbh Dezzy. I do not understand the obsession with 'older women' on here. The 'cat ladies' are blamed for Kieran surviving evictions for example. Older people just get insulted for not voting the way the forum wants. If Tom wins ( which is unlikely) the forum will explode with 'ahh the catladies voted him as he is hot and they are desperate to see a good looking guy' and so on. I really do not see the need for it. As others have said, it would be unacceptable to make a thread asking, for example, what the hive mind of the LGBT community would do...so why is it ok for this? Its just ridiculous and it has been mentioned so many times yet people continue with the 'cat ladies' 'facebook hags' and so on.

Now I don't think Withano made this thread specifically to be insulting...but it was obvious it would end up this way and I think it really needs nipped in the bud as this is constant in threads. I am not even 'middle aged' (I do own a cat though :D) and I find it really insulting to be quite honest. We have tried all series to stop people stereotyping and such, but it seems to be acceptable to insult older ladies, and I don't think thats right at all.

[Vicky.]

I think its trying to be. I did see a post on here recently with an article that explains the viewer demographic of Bb, and it was mostly older women, but I cant for the life of me find that post. I dont believe tibb is mostly older women, so I thought it made an interesting question. 'Who is bothering to vote', would also be an interesting question, but I cant cope with another backlash!

Tibb I think is mainly young gay men.

Who is actually voting is interesting..I do think its only forum users and such that vote these days. This is why I think Raph will win tbh, as I am positive loads on this forum will vote multiple times for him. Isabelle may snatch it but I can't see Raph finishing any lower than 2nd. Vanessas votes alone will probably put him in 2nd :D

[Paula D]

Thank you Vicky, you said it much better than I could.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Withano]

Tibb I think is mainly young gay men.


Isn't this the sole reason a thread like this should be acceptable though? I didn't foresee the backlash, because what you said here is pretty much a fact. And the 'obsession with older women' (for me anyway) is just trying to piece together the fuller picture.
Males and lgbt+ are drastically overrepresented on tibb, but this same demographic would be underrepresented in other areas such as fb or ds. I completely understand why cat ladies should be banned, but we cant pretend an entire demographic doesnt exist. I'm interested in their voice, and I dont think I know what that voice is saying hence the thread.

I do apologise to those offended though.

[lewis111]

It's not hard to see that certain types of people tend to vote certain ways

Look on FB or Twitter and you'll see that older women tend to prefer the "nicer and quieter" HMs usually male - like Sam BB14 and Joel BB16
On Twitter you'll see the younger audience - usually male tend to LOVE the outspoken females - like this forum - Chanelle etc

However this series does seem to be an exception to the "older women" stereotype as many supper Debs and Issy

But this is fact not an attack - and doesn't ALWAYS apply (like the stereotype younger girls always love hot males in the show yet AmyJade has flawless taste in HMs)

[Dominic]

I would disagree with that tbh Dezzy. I do not understand the obsession with 'older women' on here. The 'cat ladies' are blamed for Kieran surviving evictions for example. Older people just get insulted for not voting the way the forum wants. If Tom wins ( which is unlikely) the forum will explode with 'ahh the catladies voted him as he is hot and they are desperate to see a good looking guy' and so on. I really do not see the need for it. As others have said, it would be unacceptable to make a thread asking, for example, what the hive mind of the LGBT community would do...so why is it ok for this? Its just ridiculous and it has been mentioned so many times yet people continue with the 'cat ladies' 'facebook hags' and so on.

Now I don't think Withano made this thread specifically to be insulting...but it was obvious it would end up this way and I think it really needs nipped in the bud as this is constant in threads. I am not even 'middle aged' (I do own a cat though :D) and I find it really insulting to be quite honest. We have tried all series to stop people stereotyping and such, but it seems to be acceptable to insult older ladies, and I don't think thats right at all.

This constantly happens on TiBB, but the issues should be adressed somewhere else, not in this harmless thread. The point of this thread is to speculate who a certain demographic will vote for, not to bash them for it (which no one has done) :shrug:

[Babayaro.]

Isn't this the sole reason a thread like this should be acceptable though? I didn't foresee the backlash, because what you said here is pretty much a fact. And the 'obsession with older women' (for me anyway) is just trying to piece together the fuller picture.
Males and lgbt+ are drastically overrepresented on tibb, but this same demographic would be underrepresented in other areas such as fb or ds. I completely understand why cat ladies should be banned, but we cant pretend an entire demographic doesnt exist. I'm interested in their voice, and I dont think I know what that voice is saying hence the thread.

I do apologise to those offended though.

Yes please! :clap1:

[Tom4784]

I would disagree with that tbh Dezzy. I do not understand the obsession with 'older women' on here. The 'cat ladies' are blamed for Kieran surviving evictions for example. Older people just get insulted for not voting the way the forum wants. If Tom wins ( which is unlikely) the forum will explode with 'ahh the catladies voted him as he is hot and they are desperate to see a good looking guy' and so on. I really do not see the need for it. As others have said, it would be unacceptable to make a thread asking, for example, what the hive mind of the LGBT community would do...so why is it ok for this? Its just ridiculous and it has been mentioned so many times yet people continue with the 'cat ladies' 'facebook hags' and so on.

Now I don't think Withano made this thread specifically to be insulting...but it was obvious it would end up this way and I think it really needs nipped in the bud as this is constant in threads. I am not even 'middle aged' (I do own a cat though :D) and I find it really insulting to be quite honest. We have tried all series to stop people stereotyping and such, but it seems to be acceptable to insult older ladies, and I don't think thats right at all.

The LGBT example would only work if someone used it to draw negative connotations about that demographic. I don't find talking about demographics to be that problematic otherwise.

As for the 'Cat Lady' comments, I believe if they are targeted at members then they should be infracted but it's silly to have a blanket ban on the phrase when our hands are pretty much tied when it comes to racist views for example.

[Paula D]

The LGBT example would only work if someone used it to draw negative connotations about that demographic. I don't find talking about demographics to be that problematic otherwise.

As for the 'Cat Lady' comments, I believe if they are targeted at members then they should be infracted but it's silly to have a blanket ban on the phrase pretty much when our hands are pretty much tied when it comes to racist views for example.

How do you mean your hands are tied when it comes to racist views?

[Nancy.]

I think Vicky deserves a standing ovation.

https://media.giphy.com/media/jShr8wkP38XTO/giphy.gif

[Cherie]

I would disagree with that tbh Dezzy. I do not understand the obsession with 'older women' on here. The 'cat ladies' are blamed for Kieran surviving evictions for example. Older people just get insulted for not voting the way the forum wants. If Tom wins ( which is unlikely) the forum will explode with 'ahh the catladies voted him as he is hot and they are desperate to see a good looking guy' and so on. I really do not see the need for it. As others have said, it would be unacceptable to make a thread asking, for example, what the hive mind of the LGBT community would do...so why is it ok for this? Its just ridiculous and it has been mentioned so many times yet people continue with the 'cat ladies' 'facebook hags' and so on.

Now I don't think Withano made this thread specifically to be insulting...but it was obvious it would end up this way and I think it really needs nipped in the bud as this is constant in threads. I am not even 'middle aged' (I do own a cat though :D) and I find it really insulting to be quite honest. We have tried all series to stop people stereotyping and such, but it seems to be acceptable to insult older ladies, and I don't think thats right at all.

applauds, I saw Dezzy himself mention that Kieran and Tom would go last night due to the "thirsty" vote even though there is a thread bumped regularly by mainly you Vicky about attacking fans, if moderators can't heed their own rules then there is no hope for anyone else...

[AnnieK]

I guess I could be classed as a "cat lady"....I am over 40 (only just but sob), I have a cat but I am so not in the least bit offended by the term. :laugh: Sticks and stones and all that. Petty name calling has been going on all season, Snake Boy, silly mis-spelling of names etc so maybe I've just become immune to it :shrug:

Most people around my age that I know are voting Issy though so hope that helps Withano

[Glenn-C]

I don't think this is ageist at all and for the record I would not be offended by a "who will the gays vote for" thread

They're all voting Isabelle thanks to Lilbro's impact :hehe:

[Cherie]

It's not hard to see that certain types of people tend to vote certain ways

Look on FB or Twitter and you'll see that older women tend to prefer the "nicer and quieter" HMs usually male - like Sam BB14 and Joel BB16
On Twitter you'll see the younger audience - usually male tend to LOVE the outspoken females - like this forum - Chanelle etc

However this series does seem to be an exception to the "older women" stereotype as many supper Debs and Issy

But this is fact not an attack - and doesn't ALWAYS apply (like the stereotype younger girls always love hot males in the show yet AmyJade has flawless taste in HMs)

I liked neither so I don't like being sterotyped, its incredible that young people are stereotyping in this way I thought the newer generation were a bit more clued in and I find it a shame.

[Tom4784]

applauds, I saw Dezzy himself mention that Kieran and Tom would go last night due to the "thirsty" vote even though there is a thread bumped regularly by mainly you Vicky about attacking fans, if moderators can't heed their own rules then there is no hope for anyone else...

Hmm? Which fans am I 'attacking?' I certainly didn't mention anything about women or fans of certain housemates.

It's pretty much a fact that the fanbase as a whole has been known to favour people on their looks. Look at most Launch nights when a good looking man will get cheers regardless of the contents of their VT, while on the flipside look at HMs like Sue who were booed before we knew anything about her except that she was a black woman.

Can you recall the first highlights show when Tom had to do that facebook chat and most of the responses were among the lines of 'you iz well fit xx'?

It's not attacking anyone to state the fact that some people will vote for HMS that are good looking. It's a proven fact if you look at the results over the years.

[Cherie]

Hmm? Which fans am I 'attacking?' I certainly didn't mention anything about women or fans of certain housemates.

It's pretty much a fact that the fanbase as a whole has been known to favour people on their looks. Look at most Launch nights when a good looking man will get cheers regardless of the contents of their VT, while on the flipside look at HMs like Sue who were booed before we knew anything about her except that she was a black woman.

Can you recall the first highlights show when Tom had to do that facebook chat and most of the responses were among the lines of 'you iz well fit xx'?

It's not attacking anyone to state the fact that some people will vote for HMS that are good looking. It's a proven fact if you look at the results over the years.


who are the "thirsty voters" ?

[Withano]

It's not hard to see that certain types of people tend to vote certain ways

Look on FB or Twitter and you'll see that older women tend to prefer the "nicer and quieter" HMs usually male - like Sam BB14 and Joel BB16
On Twitter you'll see the younger audience - usually male tend to LOVE the outspoken females - like this forum - Chanelle etc

However this series does seem to be an exception to the "older women" stereotype as many supper Debs and Issy

But this is fact not an attack - and doesn't ALWAYS apply (like the stereotype younger girls always love hot males in the show yet AmyJade has flawless taste in HMs)

Both Sam and Joel were my faves haha, I'm the voice of the older women and I didn't even know it!

I was about to make a very similar point though with the bb17 series.

Compared to other forums, Twitter was shouting a lot louder for Evelyn, TiBB shouted louder for Jayne, Facebook for Jason, and DS for Andy - with Hughie getting love all round, and Georginas family voting Jackson.
They were all shouting similarly on the whole but there were definite spikes for certain housemates depending on where you looked, its silly to ignore that fact.

I think the same can be said for ages and genders, and I think tibb is missing a large part of the standard voter demographic.

[Ant.]

They're all voting Isabelle thanks to Lilbro's impact :hehe:

Xoxo

[Paula D]

Both Sam and Joel were my faves haha, I'm the voice of the older women and I didn't even know it!

I was about to make a very similar point though with the bb17 series.

Compared to other forums, Twitter was shouting a lot louder for Evelyn, TiBB shouted louder for Jayne, Facebook for Jason, and DS for Andy - with Hughie getting love all round, and Georginas family voting Jackson.
They were all shouting similarly on the whole but there were definite spikes for certain housemates depending on where you looked, its silly to ignore that fact.

I think the same can be said for ages and genders, and I think tibb is missing a large part of the standard voter demographic.

And now you've hit the nail on the head. It is missing from TIBB and the reason for that is the constant childish put downs from the younger generation.

[y.winter]

Deborah... or Raph.
I don't see why they would vote for Tom.
The only votes Tom is getting is from the crew fans...

[Tom4784]

I liked neither so I don't like being sterotyped, its incredible that young people are stereotyping in this way I thought the newer generation were a bit more clued in and I find it a shame.

Demographics aren't stereotypes, they often come to be as a result of research since they are mostly used for advertising purposes. They aren't meant to be a definitive reflection of everyone but of common opinions and trends within a group.

[bots]

Deborah... or Raph.
I don't see why they would vote for Tom.
The only votes Tom is getting is from the crew fans...

Wales will be supporting one of their own too .... and that's been very successful in the past

[Dominic]

Hmm? Which fans am I 'attacking?' I certainly didn't mention anything about women or fans of certain housemates.

It's pretty much a fact that the fanbase as a whole has been known to favour people on their looks. Look at most Launch nights when a good looking man will get cheers regardless of the contents of their VT, while on the flipside look at HMs like Sue who were booed before we knew anything about her except that she was a black woman.

Can you recall the first highlights show when Tom had to do that facebook chat and most of the responses were among the lines of 'you iz well fit xx'?

It's not attacking anyone to state the fact that some people will vote for HMS that are good looking. It's a proven fact if you look at the results over the years.:clap1:

[Tom4784]

who are the "thirsty voters" ?

Obviously the people I spoke of in the post you quoted but did not seem to read.

I know you're trying to fish for a certain response but you aren't going to get it.

[Cherie]

Obviously the people I spoke of in the post you quoted but did not seem to read.

I know you're trying to fish for a certain response but you aren't going to get it.

You don't want to give a straight answer because you have been caught out for the 1 millionth time breaking TiBB rules.

[Withano]

And now you've hit the nail on the head. It is missing from TIBB and the reason for that is the constant childish put downs from the younger generation.

You're being completely irrational

Wales will be supporting one of their own too .... and that's been very successful in the past

This is another good point to take into consideration, certain demographics, such as a Welsh demographic, are more likely to vote more than once and that wouldnt be reflected in any poll either. Manchester may feel similarly for Issy, and London for Deborah, whereas Raph is less likely to benefit from a city pride vote

[Tom4784]

You don't want to give a straight answer because you have been caught out for the 1 millionth time breaking TiBB rules.

I gave you a few paragraphs of straight answers but they obviously weren't to your liking so you're going to ignore it because it totally defuses your accusations.

[Vicky.]

Isn't this the sole reason a thread like this should be acceptable though? I didn't foresee the backlash, because what you said here is pretty much a fact. And the 'obsession with older women' (for me anyway) is just trying to piece together the fuller picture.
Males and lgbt+ are drastically overrepresented on tibb, but this same demographic would be underrepresented in other areas such as fb or ds. I completely understand why cat ladies should be banned, but we cant pretend an entire demographic doesnt exist. I'm interested in their voice, and I dont think I know what that voice is saying hence the thread.

I do apologise to those offended though.

This constantly happens on TiBB, but the issues should be adressed somewhere else, not in this harmless thread. The point of this thread is to speculate who a certain demographic will vote for, not to bash them for it (which no one has done) :shrug:

OK

Could be Debs cos she's more relateable
Could be Tom cos he's technically good looking
Could be Raph cos he's the nice guy
Could be Issy cos surely they like good TV sometimes


Do you not see how this is insulting? Also the assumption that the 'cat ladies' will vote for goodlooking males and so on. I get that y'all don;t think its a problem but it really is. There is no need to insult a whole demographic with sly comments like this


The LGBT example would only work if someone used it to draw negative connotations about that demographic. I don't find talking about demographics to be that problematic otherwise. But this is exactly whats happening with the 'older vote'. I can try to draw parallels to show what I mean...but this may come across as insulting. I do not actually think this, I am simply using it as an example...basically

Would the gay community vote for Raph as the want his cock? (Cant see beyond their lust...implied)
Or Deborah as she would be a decent straight best friend?
Maybe Tom as he is hot and they don't have a mind of their own beyond seeing someone is goodlooking? They are all just thirsty.
Or possibly Isabelle as surely they like good TV sometimes. )Usually they just like crap and people they can oggle. Surely at times they actually like other things..implied)

See how this looks when its about LGBT people?

I genuinely do not see why it is fine to insult a whole demographic of people, make out they have some kind of hive mind and (usually) make out they will only vote as they fancy someone, or vote out girls as they are jealous.

[Kazanne]

My mistake, I forgot 13 year olds posted on here. The very reason I won't be back after this series.

Another poster lost,will Tibb EVER learn.

[Paula D]

I gave you a few paragraphs of straight answers but they obviously weren't to your liking so you're going to ignore it because it totally defuses your accusations.

Answer the straight question you were asked so with a straight answer. Who are "thirsty" voters?

[Kazanne]

OK



Do you not see how this is insulting? Also the assumption that the 'cat ladies' will vote for goodlooking males and so on. I get that y'all don;t think its a problem but it really is. There is no need to insult a whole demographic with sly comments like this


But this is exactly whats happening with the 'older vote'. I can try to draw parallels to show what I mean...but this may come across as insulting. I do not actually think this, I am simply using it as an example...basically

Would the gay community vote for Raph as the want his cock? (Cant see beyond their lust...implied)
Or Deborah as she would be a decent straight best friend?
Maybe Tom as he is hot and they don't have a mind of their own beyond seeing someone is goodlooking? They are all just thirsty.
Or possibly Isabelle as surely they like good TV sometimes. )Usually they just like crap and people they can oggle. Surely at times they actually like other things..implied)

See how this looks when its about LGBT people?

I genuinely do not see why it is fine to insult a whole demographic of people, make out they have some kind of hive mind and (usually) make out they will only vote as they fancy someone, or vote out girls as they are jealous.

The voice of reason :clap1::clap1:

[Paula D]

You're being completely irrational



This is another good point to take into consideration, certain demographics, such as a Welsh demographic, are more likely to vote more than once and that wouldnt be reflected in any poll either. Manchester may feel similarly for Issy, and London for Deborah, whereas Raph is less likely to benefit from a city pride vote

I am not at all irrational, as many other posters have pointed out but you continue on ignoring that fact. You stated that TIBB is sorely lacking in the standard ordinary voter and I explained to you the reason why.

Older people will not come on here to be insulted constantly. Therefore we just go off to more mature forums. Simples.

[Paula D]

The voice of reason :clap1::clap1:

Hear hear.

[Withano]

OK



Do you not see how this is insulting? Also the assumption that the 'cat ladies' will vote for goodlooking males and so on. I get that y'all don;t think its a problem but it really is. There is no need to insult a whole demographic with sly comments like this


But this is exactly whats happening with the 'older vote'. I can try to draw parallels to show what I mean...but this may come across as insulting. I do not actually think this, I am simply using it as an example...basically

Would the gay community vote for Raph as the want his cock? (Cant see beyond their lust...implied)
Or Deborah as she would be a decent straight best friend?
Maybe Tom as he is hot and they don't have a mind of their own beyond seeing someone is goodlooking? They are all just thirsty.
Or possibly Isabelle as surely they like good TV sometimes. )Usually they just like crap and people they can oggle. Surely at times they actually like other things..implied)

See how this looks when its about LGBT people?

I genuinely do not see why it is fine to insult a whole demographic of people, make out they have some kind of hive mind and (usually) make out they will only vote as they fancy someone, or vote out girls as they are jealous.

Voting on attraction is certainly not exclusive to older women, and I would never suggest that. People read between the lines there. I can probably list ten examples off the top of my head where people of all ages and genders have decided their fave based on attraction.
me saying 'surely they like good tv sometimes' was more a statement on my personal preference, cos I couldnt think of a better way to fill the blank. I decided on making a joke out of myself.
I personally think people came in to the thread and read the OP in one of two tones of voices, I dont know how to resolve that. Emojis look bitchy 9 times out of 10 to me!

[Vicky.]

I'm not having a go at you Withano :p Nor do I think an entire demographic should be 'ignored' as you put in a post earlier. I just don't see why it should always be insults and implications that they don't have their own mind and so on tbh. All series a select group of posters have been very insulting towards older people (usually as they do not like chanelle...so they are automatically jealous old cat ladies) despite knowing this is against the rules. Its being ignored and the insults and implications keep coming. Maybe this is not the thread to bring this up in but it seemed relevant with the argument already going on...

I really cannot wait for off season when everyone gets normal again and stops insulting each other and baiting and just...get along

sits in a corner singing 'happy happy house, happy house, happy house'

Edit. It goes the other way too. Some series we get posters annoyed that a young goodlooking guy survives eviction and blames it on the 'teenyboppers' who are' thirsty'. X factor is particularly bad for this. people seem unable to accept that others have a different opinion and because of this they make the person out to be a ****ing idiot who is voting with their vagina...as my sig says :laugh:

[Jase.]

I don't think there's anything wrong with talking about demographics, I can't see any negative remarks from Withano regarding older women. I can't really see anything wrong with the thread. The only insults towards other members I've had to deal with in this thread are from people who have insulted the OP.

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

The only "insults" I've seen towards older women are references to being "cat ladies" or "Facebook moms" and, because IT IS objective, they really aren't insults imo. It's not like people are going around the forum going "ugh I bet all the old ****s are voting for [insert housemate] for [insert reason]" - THAT is being rude and insulting.

[Cherie]

I'm not having a go at you Withano :p Nor do I think an entire demographic should be 'ignored' as you put in a post earlier. I just don't see why it should always be insults and implications that they don't have their own mind and so on tbh. All series a select group of posters have been very insulting towards older people (usually as they do not like chanelle...so they are automatically jealous old cat ladies) despite knowing this is against the rules. Its being ignored and the insults and implications keep coming. Maybe this is not the thread to bring this up in but it seemed relevant with the argument already going on...

I really cannot wait for off season when everyone gets normal again and stops insulting each other and baiting and just...get along

sits in a corner singing 'happy happy house, happy house, happy house'

Edit. It goes the other way too. Some series we get posters annoyed that a young goodlooking guy survives eviction and blames it on the 'teenyboppers' who are' thirsty'. X factor is particularly bad for this. people seem unable to accept that others have a different opinion and because of this they make the person out to be a ****ing idiot who is voting with their vagina...as my sig says :laugh:


:clap1: you articulate so well so much of what I am thinking, I'm bored witless by the constant theme that women/girls only vote based on who they find "hot" and this from a forum that professes to love women..bizarre

[Tom4784]

Answer the straight question you were asked so with a straight answer. Who are "thirsty" voters?

I've answered and explained why i think that and you ignored it. Repeating the question won't make my answer any different.

If I repeat myself you would only ignore it again because you don't like the answer.

[Withano]

im not sure when the right time to bring this up is... But the poll results are the complete opposite to tellymix.
Although, it's not unanimous, and I feel like it could have been in past series'.

[chuff me dizzy]

Voting on attraction is certainly not exclusive to older women, and I would never suggest that. People read between the lines there. I can probably list ten examples off the top of my head where people of all ages and genders have decided their fave based on attraction.
me saying 'surely they like good tv sometimes' was more a statement on my personal preference, cos I couldnt think of a better way to fill the blank. I decided on making a joke out of myself.
I personally think people came in to the thread and read the OP in one of two tones of voices, I dont know how to resolve that. Emojis look bitchy 9 times out of 10 to me!

You and I both know you opened this silly thread to get a reaction,its clear baiting, thats why I wasn't going to comment on it, but reading the rude comments I decided to ,if it wasn't the last night I would open a thread (also aimed at baiting ) asking who the gays,blacks,straights were going to vote for, You already got warned earlier in the series about the childish "cat ladies" and that was dropped a little ,so your next insult came in the form of "older women" so transparent and boring ..Time to grow up my dear

[Nancy.]

You and I both know you opened this silly thread to get a reaction,its clear baiting, thats why I wasn't going to comment on it, but reading the rude comments I decided to ,if it wasn't the last night I would open a thread (also aimed at baiting ) asking who the gays,blacks,straights were going to vote for, You already got warned earlier in the series about the childish "cat ladies" and that was dropped a little ,so your next insult came in the form of "older women" so transparent and boring ..Time to grow up my dear

:clap1:

[Wizard.]

My mums 40 and she wants Deb/Tom to win and my Grans 76 and I think Isabelle's her fav x

[smudgie]

Nothing wrong with being older, or called older, embrace it.:dance:

[Cherie]

im not sure when the right time to bring this up is... But the poll results are the complete opposite to tellymix.
Although, it's not unanimous, and I feel like it could have been in past series'.

Your poll is inaccurate as most of the pollsters are not older women :hehe:

[Kazanne]

My mums 40 and she wants Deb/Tom to win and my Grans 76 and I think Isabelle's her fav x

There you go, ALL ages vote for whoever they like,not one certain group.

[Nancy.]

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

The only "insults" I've seen towards older women are references to being "cat ladies" or "Facebook moms" and, because IT IS objective, they really aren't insults imo. It's not like people are going around the forum going "ugh I bet all the old ****s are voting for [insert housemate] for [insert reason]" - THAT is being rude and insulting.

They really are. Maybe you don't find it insulting because it wasn't directed at you :shrug:

I can't remember what thread it was but I myself was referred to a cat lady on Tibb, and it was posted as an insult after a disagreement with the person in question. There's nothing wrong with speaking about demographics at all - as long as it's not insulting. Using phrases like the one mentioned is rude and uncalled for. If I created a thread asking "Who will the "young gays' vote go to?" people would be all over the report button quicker than flies to a dog turd.

[reece(:]

I got infracted for saying c*t l****s earlier :skull:

The oppression is real

[Cherie]

My mums 40 and she wants Deb/Tom to win and my Grans 76 and I think Isabelle's her fav x

Are you sure you Gran isn't thirsty for Tom, surely she must be sitting at home desperate for a look at pecs :suspect:

[chuff me dizzy]

They really are. Maybe you don't find it insulting because it wasn't directed at you :shrug:

I can't remember what thread it was but I myself was referred to a cat lady on Tibb, and it was posted as an insult after a disagreement with the person in question. There's nothing wrong with speaking about demographics at all - as long as it's not insulting. Using phrases like the one mentioned is rude and uncalled for. If I created a thread asking "Who will the "young gays' vote go to?" people would be all over the report button quicker than flies to a dog turd.

I too have been called a cat lady as an insult ,even though a certain member ( I cannot think who it was ) lied and said it was taken from Facebook

Dead right, this place would be up in arms calling us homophobic

You cannot have it both ways ,either everything goes or respect is shown to all

[Wizard.]

Are you sure you Gran isn't thirsty for Tom, surely she must be sitting at home desperate for a look at pecs :suspect:

uhhhhhh

[Cherie]

uhhhhhh

That's what is implied regularly on here

[Wizard.]

That's what is implied regularly on here

Oh lol I think you mean my mum? She always supports trash e.g. She loved BB13's Conor :shrug:

[Nancy.]

I too have been called a cat lady as an insult ,even though a certain member ( I cannot think who it was ) lied and said it was taken from Facebook

Dead right, this place would be up in arms calling us homophobic

You cannot have it both ways ,either everything goes or respect is shown to all

Exactly.

The same member insulted You, Kaz and I at the same time within the same post. I know who it is and haven't forgotten.

[Cherie]

Oh lol I think you mean my mum? She always supports trash e.g. She loved BB13's Conor :shrug:

No I mean your Nan, she is an older woman so can't possibly support a female according to TiBB just look at the poll

[chuff me dizzy]

Exactly.

The same member insulted You, Kaz and I at the same time within the same post. I know who it is and haven't forgotten.

PM me please xx

[reece(:]

Another poster lost,will Tibb EVER learn.
Most older members can co-exist with younger members, everyone is equal and if some can't cope with that then it's best they move on IMO

[reece(:]

Answer the straight question you were asked so with a straight answer. Who are "thirsty" voters?

The women on BOTS that were saying they'd vote Kieran to win cos he's hot?

[chuff me dizzy]

Most older members can co-exist with younger members, everyone is equal and if some can't cope with that then it's best they move on IMO

This forum is not here for only young, black or gay people ,its here for ALL members, time this was remembered

[Cherie]

The women on BOTS that were saying they'd vote Kieran to win cos he's hot?

They are hardly representative and at the end of the day they didn't because he is out, are the young men on Bots representative of your views?

[Amy Jade]

My mum likes Issy and my Nan likes Issy and Raph.

The women I talk to BB about who i would say are older all 4 liked Issy and Raph

[JayGreen]

Tom i guess. He suits the rugged look thats all im going to say! <3

[Vicky.]

Sorry but I am closing this now. I do think it has ran its course and it seems from the way its heading now that it will just end in a huge argument. Its been nice actually discussing things maturely with y'all rather than arguing though, but I sense this is going to change...