Lotan was underrated.

[DouglasS]

At the start of the season Lotan had a lot of sense and was often the voice of reason. He became respected and the alpha male because he had good advice [kinda similar to Deborah as a female figure later on in the season]. He was also an entertaining character. I admit I didn't like how he treated Izzy and he got a bit cocky [but as did Chanelle when popularity hit her, so its not much different].

As an actual Housemate though he was largely responsible for one of the best weeks of big brother, and like Isabelle helped cement a divide and caused a really interesting week of big brother. The divide was so interesting to watch I thought, and as soon as Lotan left possibly the most boring week of big brother occured and the highlights typically existed. The following week was then just Smellie. As a housemate he is very much underated, as a person however I didn't really like him, but hes really not as bad as people say. Everyone has been aggressive in that house, and he also made Isabelle really likable, and was responsible for a really interesting voting divide even with the british public [Pro Isabelle or Pro Lotan/Anti Isabelle - which was interesting to watch]

[Daniel.]

He just bullied Isabelle, he was like Conor

[Dominic]

He was awful and sexist

[DouglasS]

Without him the show got boring though. Almost everyone on this forum are in agreement the week following Lotans ejection was one of the worst ever. The week then following that was full of Smellie and wasn't amazing. It picked up in the Suemone week again, but BB18 had two dud weeks, as both Rebecca and Lotan leaving was a big hit to the dynamics of the house.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'll take Smellie any day of the week over Lotan literally just stringing her on and letting her make a fool out of herself for his own amusement.

[Greg!]

Without him the show got boring though. Almost everyone on this forum are in agreement the week following Lotans ejection was one of the worst ever. The week then following that was full of Smellie and wasn't amazing. It picked up in the Suemone week again, but BB18 had two dud weeks, as both Rebecca and Lotan leaving was a big hit to the dynamics of the house.

That was because they all got warnings and didn't want to get kicked out?

[Greg!]

Also he was vile

[DouglasS]

Just making it clear I'm not a fan of Lotan but I just caught up on BBUK and saw clips from when Isabelle won and I laughed watching quite a lot of the drama of fight week.

[lewis111]

He was the reason Isabelle became a HM - he was the one gunning for her to go in
Which gives him like 20 points but then he bullied her so he went back to being scum again

[Epic.]

He's Conor with a god complex

[Withano]

Lotan was hideous and completely detracted from my enjoyment in the show. The fact he has >1 fan almost proves he's one of the most overrated housemates ever.

[LukeB]

Everyone has been aggressive in that house

umm No..Raph wasn't ever aggressive,Imran and Isabelle weren't aggressive either..

[Locke.]

He was an excellent housemate. There were some things he did that he shouldn't have, but he was nowhere near as bad as he has been made out to be.

[Littlegreen]

I didn't like the arrogance, he truly felt like he was above everybody else in there.

[Adamw92]

No.

[reece(:]

He was a plot device that expired.

[Jedman]

I actually quite liked him, he had a bit of depth to him which came across in some of the conversations he had, the only thing I didn't like was when he got overly bitchy towards issabelle.

He went to far in his dislike of issabelle which let him down.

[Underscore]

He was overrated for the first week or two but his good looks didn't end up making up for his bad personality

[Parallel]

Lotan was horrific, and that's all I can contribute to this thread.

[Samm]

no

[Vicky.]

I know he is massively unpopular on here, and I won't deny he is an utter dickhead, but he was an amazing housemate tbh. He shaped the whole series, and he was the reason for isabelle winning too :laugh:

[Lush]

He is literally everything I hate in a person, a bully, cocky, conceited, sexist. The typical alpha-male "lad" type who picks on those he thinks are weaker or different to himself in order to fuel his own ego.

I don't think he was a good housemate and most definitely not a good person. However I suppose he did serve his purpose as the focal point of the bad side of the divide, and he made Isabelle's win so much sweeter by being the one who mocked her and belittled her place in the house so much in her first few days.

I guess he was the villain in the storyline and the antithesis to the incredible person that Isabelle was. However he wasn't a panto villain in the way people like Grace were, and he was just too vile to be considered even remotely entertaining.

[RhysJones]

Lotan was ok at best before fight night week, then he became one of the vilest housemates i have seen. In my mind, Helen doesn't come close to him. The way he treated Isabelle was disgusting and he got what he deserved. And i would take Ellie and Sam over him for another week

[Ant.]

He is literally everything I hate in a person, a bully, cocky, conceited, sexist. The typical alpha-male "lad" type who picks on those he thinks are weaker or different to himself in order to fuel his own ego.

I don't think he was a good housemate and most definitely not a good person. However I suppose he did serve his purpose as the focal point of the bad side of the divide, and he made Isabelle's win so much sweeter by being the one who mocked her and belittled her place in the house so much in her first few days.

I guess he was the villain in the storyline and the antithesis to the incredible person that Isabelle was. However he wasn't a panto villain in the way people like Grace were, and he was just too vile to be considered even remotely entertaining.

:clap1:

[Tom4784]

His vileness cements him as a terrible HM.

Pretty much everything before Isabelle came into the house was an act, we saw the real Lotan come out in his misogynistic bullying of Issy.

[Rustic bauble]

At the start of the season Lotan had a lot of sense and was often the voice of reason. He became respected and the alpha male because he had good advice [kinda similar to Deborah as a female figure later on in the season]. He was also an entertaining character. I admit I didn't like how he treated Izzy and he got a bit cocky [but as did Chanelle when popularity hit her, so its not much different].

As an actual Housemate though he was largely responsible for one of the best weeks of big brother, and like Isabelle helped cement a divide and caused a really interesting week of big brother. The divide was so interesting to watch I thought, and as soon as Lotan left possibly the most boring week of big brother occured and the highlights typically existed. The following week was then just Smellie. As a housemate he is very much underated, as a person however I didn't really like him, but hes really not as bad as people say. Everyone has been aggressive in that house, and he also made Isabelle really likable, and was responsible for a really interesting voting divide even with the british public [Pro Isabelle or Pro Lotan/Anti Isabelle - which was interesting to watch]

Good analysis...

How anyone can say they prefer watching Smellie I don't know :shrug...let's face it we all love a villain..and we love to watch their demise..don't we?

[Epic.]

Good analysis...

How anyone can say they prefer watching Smellie I don't know :shrug...let's face it we all love a villain..and we love to watch their demise..don't we?

It really depends. I much prefer a villain who's flamboyant and straightforward in their actions, examples including people such as Julie Goodyear, Nicola McLean, John Partridge, Makosi, Natalie Rowe, etc. But when it's just straight demonic scumbag person I very rarely enjoy it and would usually class straight up horrible people as the worst of the worst eg Lotan, Bear, Conor, etc.

[Merry Mockmas]

At the start of the season Lotan had a lot of sense and was often the voice of reason. He became respected and the alpha male because he had good advice [kinda similar to Deborah as a female figure later on in the season]. He was also an entertaining character. I admit I didn't like how he treated Izzy and he got a bit cocky [but as did Chanelle when popularity hit her, so its not much different].

As an actual Housemate though he was largely responsible for one of the best weeks of big brother, and like Isabelle helped cement a divide and caused a really interesting week of big brother. The divide was so interesting to watch I thought, and as soon as Lotan left possibly the most boring week of big brother occured and the highlights typically existed. The following week was then just Smellie. As a housemate he is very much underated, as a person however I didn't really like him, but hes really not as bad as people say. Everyone has been aggressive in that house, and he also made Isabelle really likable, and was responsible for a really interesting voting divide even with the british public [Pro Isabelle or Pro Lotan/Anti Isabelle - which was interesting to watch]

I see where you're coming from, personally I agree with you aswell as Lotan did create alot of discussions with the BB fans on the Forums, Social Media, and any friends and family that you knew who watched who all had things to say about Lotan and I always appreciate Housemates like that than the bores who play it safe and do nothing for most of their time in the house.

I know that we'll be in the minority on here for having some appreciation for what Lotan brought to the series, but I see BB as more of an entertainment show over a likability contest and he did do things in the house, I still remember how he actually had some fun with Arthur aswell with the stripping.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

He was trying so hard to come across as the nice guy. But he couldn't keep up the act anymore. Glad he was thrown out.

[Gstar]

Twice as bad as Sezer

[y.winter]

He was cocky the moment he enter the runway on launch night. Throwing chewed gums on the audience, trying to push one to Emma's mouth. Disgusting behaviour. Fight night came as no surprise.

[lime]

At the start of the season Lotan had a lot of sense and was often the voice of reason. He became respected and the alpha male because he had good advice [kinda similar to Deborah as a female figure later on in the season]. He was also an entertaining character. I admit I didn't like how he treated Izzy and he got a bit cocky [but as did Chanelle when popularity hit her, so its not much different].

As an actual Housemate though he was largely responsible for one of the best weeks of big brother, and like Isabelle helped cement a divide and caused a really interesting week of big brother. The divide was so interesting to watch I thought, and as soon as Lotan left possibly the most boring week of big brother occured and the highlights typically existed. The following week was then just Smellie. As a housemate he is very much underated, as a person however I didn't really like him, but hes really not as bad as people say. Everyone has been aggressive in that house, and he also made Isabelle really likable, and was responsible for a really interesting voting divide even with the british public [Pro Isabelle or Pro Lotan/Anti Isabelle - which was interesting to watch]
Do you rember Savannah "Real name Shauna" interview with Emma and she said she could see Lothan bullying Issy and that she comfonted him about it

[Kazanne]

Lotan wasn't half as bad as people like to paint on here , all this aggressive misogynistic is bull**** just a phase to make him sound worse that someone who just lost their temper at someone constantly putting him down, we all have a breaking point,evertime he spoke about his girlfriend Isabelle piped up "It's all you ever talk about" so what? what had it to dowith her,that wasn't all he spoke about anyway, then the remark about his boy,he probably overreacted but lots of parents are sensitive over their kids, all he did was throw some water,Chanelle was far more aggressive than him,and all those egirls screaming in his face was uncalled for too. People saying Isabelle got him chucked out,well no it was for other reasons too, no one knows for sure,then you get those gloating she had caused him to lose his job,well no she didn't ,his contract was up ,he should have handled it better but I can see in that situation a lot of people would have found it unbearable and surely Isabelle fans should be thanking him as they keep saying he handed her the win,anyway that's my take on Lotan,he handled it wrong ,but misogynistic and bully never.I think he could have been a pretty good housemate.

[poppsywoppsy]

Lotan wasn't half as bad as people like to paint on here , all this aggressive misogynistic is bull**** just a phase to make him sound worse that someone who just lost their temper at someone constantly putting him down, we all have a breaking point,evertime he spoke about his girlfriend Isabelle piped up "It's all you ever talk about" so what? what had it to dowith her,that wasn't all he spoke about anyway, then the remark about his boy,he probably overreacted but lots of parents are sensitive over their kids, all he did was throw some water,Chanelle was far more aggressive than him,and all those egirls screaming in his face was uncalled for too. People saying Isabelle got him chucked out,well no it was for other reasons too, no one knows for sure,then you get those gloating she had caused him to lose his job,well no she didn't ,his contract was up ,he should have handled it better but I can see in that situation a lot of people would have found it unbearable and surely Isabelle fans should be thanking him as they keep saying he handed her the win,anyway that's my take on Lotan,he handled it wrong ,but misogynistic and bully never.I think he could have been a pretty good housemate.

My take on Lotan was he believed his own publicity or rather the Dream Boys publicity.

Lotans downfall was he couldn't live up to it and let his true feelings take over in minutes of stress. He was living a lie as he knew he was not this jovial likeable Alpha male who could handle things when they were not going his way.

Because women were two a penny at his appearances, he seemed to think less of women as a whole but elevated the one he choose as a partner to be on a higher position. No one should talk about her but him, no one could be like her and the fact they had broken up was not to be discussed, ever by anyone else but him.

By setting these standards for others, he was bound to fail but was too engrossed in his own world to understand he was just another housemate.

Then his foul and disgusting behaviour towards Isabelle and how he egged on his sad little band of followers, the ever eager and available Ellie, the limpid Tom, Keiron who was scared Isoblel would out his sexual health problems, to insult and isolate her.

I found this quite disgusting and not entertaining in the least, who would? The fact that it quietened down after that was because so many were given warnings not because Lotan left because his baiting, smirking and posturing had become so over the top it was uncomfortable viewing.

How the mighty had fallen, even if his Dream Boys contract had ended, they didn't renew it and blocked him from their website. At least they had a shred of decency.

[MrWong]

I know he is massively unpopular on here, and I won't deny he is an utter dickhead, but he was an amazing housemate tbh. He shaped the whole series, and he was the reason for isabelle winning too :laugh:

The viewers were going to vote Isy out after she ended Lotan. If it wasn't for BB revealing the voting percentages she would have left that week.

Isy's selfless acts were the reason she won over the viewers imo.

[Garfie]

My take on Lotan was he believed his own publicity or rather the Dream Boys publicity.

Lotans downfall was he couldn't live up to it and let his true feelings take over in minutes of stress. He was living a lie as he knew he was not this jovial likeable Alpha male who could handle things when they were not going his way.

Because women were two a penny at his appearances, he seemed to think less of women as a whole but elevated the one he choose as a partner to be on a higher position. No one should talk about her but him, no one could be like her and the fact they had broken up was not to be discussed, ever by anyone else but him.

By setting these standards for others, he was bound to fail but was too engrossed in his own world to understand he was just another housemate.

Then his foul and disgusting behaviour towards Isabelle and how he egged on his sad little band of followers, the ever eager and available Ellie, the limpid Tom, Keiron who was scared Isoblel would out his sexual health problems, to insult and isolate her.

I found this quite disgusting and not entertaining in the least, who would? The fact that it quietened down after that was because so many were given warnings not because Lotan left because his baiting, smirking and posturing had become so over the top it was uncomfortable viewing.

How the mighty had fallen, even if his Dream Boys contract had ended, they didn't renew it and blocked him from their website. At least they had a shred of decency.

Good post, Poppsy. I agree with much of what you have said here.

My first impressions of Lotan were not good, but I changed my mind when he showed some sensitivity and compassion towards Arthur and in other situations- I thought I had initially misjudged him and even began to support him.

However, I think you have hit the nail on the head in suggesting he was trying to play (or live up to) a role which he could not maintain long term, and as you say, particularly in moments of stress, and eventually his true character emerged.

I couldn't agree more with what you say regarding the behaviour he displayed towards Isabelle. His treatment and constant targeting of her was absolutely despicable and uncomfortable viewing, and he showed himself as the distinctly unpleasant character he really was. He was therefore the master of his own downfall, and this cannot be blamed on or attributed to Issy- he chose to target and bully Isabelle, he chose to invite others to join him in this, he chose his reaction when she finally pulled him up for it and he chose his words and behaviour afterwards. On all occasions he demonstrated the same personality traits.

And just as Isabelle cannot be blamed for the behaviour and characteristics Lotan displayed, he should not be seen as the reason for the positive characteristics she showed or the reason for her win. She was basically a decent and genuine person who had the courage to stand up to a bully, and Lotan deserves no credit for that.

[Lush]

My take on Lotan was he believed his own publicity or rather the Dream Boys publicity.

Lotans downfall was he couldn't live up to it and let his true feelings take over in minutes of stress. He was living a lie as he knew he was not this jovial likeable Alpha male who could handle things when they were not going his way.

Because women were two a penny at his appearances, he seemed to think less of women as a whole but elevated the one he choose as a partner to be on a higher position. No one should talk about her but him, no one could be like her and the fact they had broken up was not to be discussed, ever by anyone else but him.

By setting these standards for others, he was bound to fail but was too engrossed in his own world to understand he was just another housemate.

Then his foul and disgusting behaviour towards Isabelle and how he egged on his sad little band of followers, the ever eager and available Ellie, the limpid Tom, Keiron who was scared Isoblel would out his sexual health problems, to insult and isolate her.

I found this quite disgusting and not entertaining in the least, who would? The fact that it quietened down after that was because so many were given warnings not because Lotan left because his baiting, smirking and posturing had become so over the top it was uncomfortable viewing.

How the mighty had fallen, even if his Dream Boys contract had ended, they didn't renew it and blocked him from their website. At least they had a shred of decency.
What a great post. :clap1:

[Ant.]

Can we not act that Lotan wasn't misogynistic when he said he'd "destroy" a younger woman "mentally and physically" and asked "what's wrong with women in this house thinking they can challenge me?"

[Lush]

Can we not act that Lotan wasn't misogynistic when he said he'd "destroy" a younger woman "mentally and physically" and asked "what's wrong with women in this house thinking they can challenge me?"
Remember when they were reading mean tweets about him and his response to one of them was something along the lines of "did I shag his missis or something?"

His view of women is extremely warped and I'm so glad he got called out on it.

[Time]

He got what he deserved and the right person won. Arrogant prick.

[Ant.]

Remember when they were reading mean tweets about him and his response to one of them was something along the lines of "did I shag his missis or something?"

His view of women is extremely warped and I'm so glad he got called out on it.

I erased that from my memory but I remember now :skull:

[Garfie]

Can we not act that Lotan wasn't misogynistic when he said he'd "destroy" a younger woman "mentally and physically" and asked "what's wrong with women in this house thinking they can challenge me?"

:clap1:

[Nancy.]

Can we not act that Lotan wasn't misogynistic when he said he'd "destroy" a younger woman "mentally and physically" and asked "what's wrong with women in this house thinking they can challenge me?"

I see Lotan's still on everyone's lips almost a month and a half after being ejected. :joker: Supposedly a misogynist and yet he didn't have a problem with a majority of the other women in the house. I love how Chanelle's comments were excused as a joke but everything Lotan said was taken deadly seriously. lol

I wonder if we should put labels on the same women who shouted and screamed at him and called him disgusting names. Does that make them a bunch of misandrists too?

As usual, one rule for certain hm's and another rule for one they don't like.

[Ant.]

I see Lotan's still on everyone's lips almost a month and a half after being ejected. :joker: Supposedly a misogynist and yet he didn't have a problem with a majority of the other women in the house. I love how Chanelle's comments were excused as a joke but everything Lotan said was taken deadly seriously. lol

I wonder if we should put labels on the same women who shouted and screamed at him and called him disgusting names. Does that make them a bunch of misandrists too?

As usual, one rule for certain hm's and another rule for one they don't like.

Did Chanelle threaten to destroy anyone? But nice to see she's still on your lips :smug:
This is a thread about Lotan. Of course he's on people's lips.
"Taken deadly seriously" I mean, he did threaten to destroy someone....

Did anyone make any comments about him being a man though? Joe clashed with Rebecca and he wasn't labelled misogynistic. Why? Because he didnt make comments about women during the argument.

[reece(:]

Can we not act that Lotan wasn't misogynistic when he said he'd "destroy" a younger woman "mentally and physically" and asked "what's wrong with women in this house thinking they can challenge me?"

The brew is scalding

[Jason.]

Gutter trash.

[Kazanne]

Did Chanelle threaten to destroy anyones But nice to see she's still on your lips :smug:
This is a thread about Lotan. Of course he's on people's lips.
"Taken deadly seriously" I mean, he did threaten to destroy someone....

Did anyone make any comments about him being a man though? Joe clashed with Rebecca and he wasn't labelled misogynistic. Why? Because he didnt make comments about women during the argument.

Lol no Chanelle only threatened to kill him same thing really .

[Ant.]

Lol no Chanelle only threatened to kill him same thing really .

Did she? What did she actually say?

[Ant.]

The only comment I think you're referring to is "if you're allergic to bull**** you'd be dead"... because he speaks bull****.

[Kazanne]

Did she? What did she actually say?

c'mon then , I'll kill you" only MUCH louder and aggressive than that, forgot did you?

[Ant.]

c'mon then , I'll kill you" only MUCH louder and aggressive than that, forgot did you?

Yes I did. What episode was this?

[poppsywoppsy]

c'mon then , I'll kill you" only MUCH louder and aggressive than that, forgot did you?

I cannot remember her saying that, surely BB would not have stood for that and if they did they shouldn't have.

However, Lotan made a sustained attack on Isabelle, which went on for days until he was ejected. He also incited others to do the same by trying to isolate her. He wasn't ejected for what he said, it was his potentially violent behaviour which was escalating when things didn't go to his liking which was his downfall.

He was the architect of his own demise.

[Nancy.]

Did Chanelle threaten to destroy anyone? But nice to see she's still on your lips :smug:
This is a thread about Lotan. Of course he's on people's lips.
"Taken deadly seriously" I mean, he did threaten to destroy someone....

Did anyone make any comments about him being a man though? Joe clashed with Rebecca and he wasn't labelled misogynistic. Why? Because he didnt make comments about women during the argument.

Is it really? Never would've guessed from the title.

Chanelle came out of the house a few days ago, hon, so hardly the same as discussing someone who came out almost 5 weeks ago and you still persist on entering threads to discuss him. I wonder how he would feel about you and your unhealthy obsession with him.

The only argument Joe was involved in was the one with Rebecca where he said her smile annoyed him and she flew off the handle. He wasn't labelled a misogynist because he could hardly get a word in edgeways for her screaming at him and bringing his daughter into the discussion, but he would've been if he'd stayed much longer. Bringing children into arguments seems to be a regular occurrence with some people... something Issy also did, but apparently,that's ok according to some.

[Ant.]

Is it really? Never would've guessed from the title.

Chanelle came out of the house a few days ago, hon, so hardly the same as discussing someone who came out almost 5 weeks ago and you still persist on entering threads to discuss him. I wonder how he would feel about you and you're unhealthy obsession with him.

The only argument Joe was involved in was the one with Rebecca where he said her smile annoyed him and she flew off the handle. He wasn't labelled a misogynist because he could hardly get a word in edgeways for her screaming at him and bringing his daughter into the discussion, but he would've been if he'd stayed much longer. Bringing children into arguments seems to be a regular occurrence with some people... something Issy also did, but apparently,that's ok according to some.

Nancy, I appreciate your baiting, but I'm not rising to it :joker:

[Nancy.]

Nancy, I appreciate your baiting, but I'm not rising to it :joker:

Likewise.

[Ant.]

Likewise.

Hardly baiting you hon

[Jodie.]

Horrible person, amazing housemate

[Nancy.]

Hardly baiting you hon

According to you.

Did a particular post elsewhere put you back in your box, hon? :pat:

[Ant.]

According to you.

Did a particular post elsewhere put you back in your box, hon? :pat:

What post? Please quote it :)

[girlfighter1992]

At the start of the season Lotan had a lot of sense and was often the voice of reason. He became respected and the alpha male because he had good advice [kinda similar to Deborah as a female figure later on in the season]. He was also an entertaining character. I admit I didn't like how he treated Izzy and he got a bit cocky [but as did Chanelle when popularity hit her, so its not much different].

As an actual Housemate though he was largely responsible for one of the best weeks of big brother, and like Isabelle helped cement a divide and caused a really interesting week of big brother. The divide was so interesting to watch I thought, and as soon as Lotan left possibly the most boring week of big brother occured and the highlights typically existed. The following week was then just Smellie. As a housemate he is very much underated, as a person however I didn't really like him, but hes really not as bad as people say. Everyone has been aggressive in that house, and he also made Isabelle really likable, and was responsible for a really interesting voting divide even with the british public [Pro Isabelle or Pro Lotan/Anti Isabelle - which was interesting to watch]

Totally agree with you the series lost something for me when he and Rebecca were eliminated and sorry but if it wasn't for Lotan Isabelle wouldn't have won

[Merry Mockmas]

Twice as bad as Sezer

Sezer wasn't even bad, he took on Richard who was a nasty piece of ****.:laugh:

[ClaireS92]

He was a Mysogynyst deserved what he got . So was Joe .Why he lasted so long Ill never know. One Jim Davidson was even voted Winner once which makes the mind boggle when most of the viewers are Female .

[Gstar]

Sezer wasn't even bad, he took on Richard who was a nasty piece of ****.:laugh:

Nooo mock. Richard was iconic!

[lime]

I think it;s gas that Lotan fans don't acknowledge he's a bully when even his own mates in the house said it:shrug:

[Nancy.]

I think it;s gas that Lotan fans don't acknowledge he's a bully when even his own mates in the house said it:shrug:

Nobody in that house has any true friends, not when there's a big pot of gold at the end of it.

[Kazanne]

He was a Mysogynyst deserved what he got . So was Joe .Why he lasted so long Ill never know. One Jim Davidson was even voted Winner once which makes the mind boggle when most of the viewers are Female .

Jim Davidson was a great winner.Is Misogynist the word of the month or something ? Christ any guy who has words with a woman is now a misogynist,please don't make me laugh.

[DanielM787]

No wonder, for being a vile person

[Kazanne]

I think it;s gas that Lotan fans don't acknowledge he's a bully when even his own mates in the house said it:shrug:

He wasn't a bully at all ,he was oversensitive about his private life , nothing wrong with that . He was probably not in a good place with his partner or not seeing his child so anything said like Isabelle said would be heightened, so he overreacted but he wasn't a bully and that is not why he went.

[lime]

Nobody in that house has any true friends, not when there's a big pot of gold at the end of it.

Sure they are not his true mates...It's the BB house ...those he was closet to in there said he bullied Izzy

[Dominic]

Nooo mock. Richard was iconic!

Richard was a bully

[Nancy.]

Jim Davidson was a great winner.Is Misogynist the word of the month or something ? Christ any guy who has words with a woman is now a misogynist,please don't make me laugh.

:laugh: Do you think if we chucked the word "misandrist" around a few times at women like Chanelle, it'll stick? Let's have a try, shall we? :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Nah not underrated but far from the worst. He wasn't exactly entertaining or a likable person though.

However, to be fair the season was a lot better while he was in there and I'm not sure why because again he wasn't very entertaining and actually strived to be the voice of reason and to prevent drama/entertainment, etc. :shrug:

[JerseyWins]

Is Misogynist the word of the month or something ?
Word of the decade

Yes I did. What episode was this?
I'm not sure if she also said it in another situation with Lotan as well but I remember she said she'd kill Kayleigh after their argument when Kayleigh got expelled.

Unbiasedly speaking, Chanelle was at least 10x more vile than Lotan with the sh*t that came out of her mouth all season.

[MrWong]

Totally agree with you the series lost something for me when he and Rebecca were eliminated and sorry but if it wasn't for Lotan Isabelle wouldn't have won

Isy won because of her selfless acts. Nothing to do with Lotan.

[Garfie]

I see Lotan's still on everyone's lips almost a month and a half after being ejected. :joker: Supposedly a misogynist and yet he didn't have a problem with a majority of the other women in the house. I love how Chanelle's comments were excused as a joke but everything Lotan said was taken deadly seriously. lol

I wonder if we should put labels on the same women who shouted and screamed at him and called him disgusting names. Does that make them a bunch of misandrists too?

As usual, one rule for certain hm's and another rule for one they don't like.

I had grown to like him, Nancy, but his actions changed my feelings and meant that he lost my support.

[Garfie]

Totally agree with you the series lost something for me when he and Rebecca were eliminated and sorry but if it wasn't for Lotan Isabelle wouldn't have won

Rubbish! Isabelle won because she is a decent, honest, kind-hearted, likeable and genuine personality, who had the courage to stand up for herself against someone who was cruelly targeting her.

Lotan can not be credited with her success.

She won despite him, not because of him.

[Garfie]

Word of the decade


I'm not sure if she also said it in another situation with Lotan as well but I remember she said she'd kill Kayleigh after their argument when Kayleigh got expelled.

Unbiasedly speaking, Chanelle was at least 10x more vile than Lotan with the sh*t that came out of her mouth all season.

I agree with you that Chanelle was vile. However, just because one person is vile, it doesn't make another person less vile.

[lime]

He wasn't a bully at all ,he was oversensitive about his private life , nothing wrong with that . He was probably not in a good place with his partner or not seeing his child so anything said like Isabelle said would be heightened, so he overreacted but he wasn't a bully and that is not why he went.

Oversensitve ...really is that the excuse we are going to bullies these day's???


Do you remember when he told his mates to ghost Issy....long before she mentioed his son

[Daniel-X]

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[DouglasS]

To be fair Isabelle didn't even mention his son, she said 'role model to you son though', as in how is Lotan's behaviour being a role model, which was a fair statement after rewaching the episodes, and yes Lotan did over react just by hearing 'son', he was drunk and didn't actually hear. She was ganged up on, which is why the british publicc voted to keep her in. It wasn't just Lotan however, Ellie, Savannah and Tom were not much better either after watching the episodes again. I don't think I could ever agree with a housemate that is telling other housemates to completely ignore one individual, especially if that individual is new to the house and has little friends, that in itself is cruel, as she hadn't even mentioned his son yet, and I completely agree that was harsh, and I'm sure Lotan fans agree that he was cruel at times, but he became a paranoid mess by the end. Lotan was still a good housemate however, maybe not a great person but a good housemate.

Isabelle won in the end, so it's in a way karma for him not being very nice to her for almost no reason, but I'm glad he was there because he caused a lot of entertainment and tension. He's still getting tonnes of hate on twitter months after, all his top comments are hate, which the series is over now its a bit ott.

[Paula D]

What shocks me most about all this is that's it's WOMEN who are defending his behaviour.

Really? So blinded by a good body that it doesn't matter what way he's treats women?

[Littlegreen]

Isabelle was just the catalyst for him exploding, we had seen glimpses of what was coming before fight night.

His tantrum when breaking out the fire exit, for example.

[Candy Annie Cane]

What worried me about Lotan's reaction (and prior to that time in the house I didnt mind him, thought so of the comments on here were a bit ott), was the fact that he reacted like that in an environment where he was being watched....how would he reacted if someone said something that triggered him like that in a situation where it was one on one or surrounded by his mates. It could have escalated incredibly quickly and violently.

[Kazanne]

What shocks me most about all this is that's it's WOMEN who are defending his behaviour.

Really? So blinded by a good body that it doesn't matter what way he's treats women?

Well imo Keiran was far more 'hot' than Lotan,but fine keep using those sweeping statements,men and women are supposed to be equal are they not ? No one is defending his behaviour unlike people who defend others of a similar ilk. I understand why he reacted like he did,that is not defense,it's understanding human emotions.

[joeysteele]

He turned out to be his own worst enemy as a housemate in the end.

[Paula D]

Well imo Keiran was far more 'hot' than Lotan,but fine keep using those sweeping statements,men and women are supposed to be equal are they not ? No one is defending his behaviour unlike people who defend others of a similar ilk. I understand why he reacted like he did,that is not defense,it's understanding human emotions.

So quite apart from the incident that got him thrown out do you understand why he spoke to a young girl like she was a piece of ****?

[Kazanne]

So quite apart from the incident that got him thrown out do you understand why he spoke to a young girl like she was a piece of ****?

It wasn't just that incident that got him thrown out,he was also wanting to leave plus had been in hospital so it was a combination of things, he spoke to her as she spoke to him clearly calling him a twunt at one point,just two adults that didn't get on,hardly the wife beater people like to depict.

[Kazanne]

He turned out to be his own worst enemy as a housemate in the end.

he did ,I agree.

[Paula D]

It wasn't just that incident that got him thrown out,he was also wanting to leave plus had been in hospital so it was a combination of things, he spoke to her as she spoke to him clearly calling him a twunt at one point,just two adults that didn't get on,hardly the wife beater people like to depict.

Carry on so, you obviously know different adults than I do because I don't know any gentleman that would speak to a young girl like he did. Any son of mine that told a girl to shush would be getting a swift slap. She was never rude to him, purely pointed out when he was wrong which he couldn't stand.

[lime]

Carry on so, you obviously know different adults than I do because I don't know any gentleman that would speak to a young girl like he did. Any son of mine that told a girl to shush would be getting a swift slap. She was never rude to him, purely pointed out when he was wrong which he couldn't stand.

True Paula...any son of mine had even thought about speaking to a woman like that would have ended up with a red arse

[rionablue]

i Kinda liked him on launch night and for the first week or so but went off him. He actually HANDED issy the win because when she stood up to him it started off her popularity with the public.

[Kazanne]

Carry on so, you obviously know different adults than I do because I don't know any gentleman that would speak to a young girl like he did. Any son of mine that told a girl to shush would be getting a swift slap. She was never rude to him, purely pointed out when he was wrong which he couldn't stand.

So you have aggressive tendancies too:smug: I'de say calling someone a **** was very rude.

[ClaireS92]

I thought he was overrated .Shouldve been out a long time before. He behaved like a woman hater just like Joe certainly was.If any of the other guys in the house were real men they would've put Joe in his place for the way he leant over and shouted down at two women .

[Jack_]

He was a great housemate