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Ant.
30-07-2017, 02:04 AM
No rumours have said it will be - just speculation. In my opinion, they've held off doing so because it could be a ratings killer (Maybe not this series, but the format since the show started on C5 has safely secured decent enough viewer numbers for C5 - maybe not the franchise, although CBB15's 3m average rivals some C4 series, for example), especially if they believe people were getting tired of the format in C4's day, hence the decline in viewership (although that was for other reasons which Cal highlighted perfectly in a post I can't find sadly :( )
This series has consistently went under 1 million views. I'm not sure how good this compares to other C5 shows, but this is substandard even by C5 BB standards. With the show possibly being axed and 2018 possibly being the last year, would they gamble and introduce a C4-style for the last series? (Even just for UBB2 - if they do do one.) I mean, ratings are terrible as is, and the C4 edit will be fresh to new viewers and people who haven't seen the C4 series for years, and maybe entice some viewers who lost interest in 2011.

The only major issue is the live feed. I doubt many casual viewers would subscribe to it and it really hinders the manipulation C5 BB is known for.

Promo would have to calm down - while I enjoyed BB18's (I'd say it's the best we had in years), CBB20's is terrible imo. The Big Brother themetune playing with the eye over the house, teasing it with subtle edits (obviously difficult for summer CBB, but yeah) is certainly a better teaser than golden CBB on a pool). I think the simplicity of it returning to C4 series would get more attention anyway - people will hear the iconic tune, look up, and be enticed by what the house may look like (or not, but it's more interesting than "HIT IT MARCUS!") and gain interest from there. It'd certainly stand out from the OTT ads that fill TV nowadays.

Besides that, I doubt it'd take much. Tone down Marcus, have less twists (especially regarding nominations and evictions), STOP INCLUDING RANDOM PIECES OF MUSIC DURING CONVERSATIONS ( :fist: ), try and get an even mix of everyone (Nic saying she "obviously" gives Raph immunity when their interactions weren't shown at all - and Tom going for a Brain Scan? With Kieran apparently accompanying him? Why weren't we told? Not exactly essential but it'd be nice), make the house more annoying to live in (the split bedrooms were great, but maybe mix up were the furniture is and make it more claustrophobic to rile up the housemates - it'd be better to watch than BB telling housemates people think they're two faced or whatever), limit outside information, and tone down the edit.

I kinda don't want to say this after clear manipulation saved Issy and gave us the best C5 winner ever, but we shouldn't have any manipulation from producers... or if so make it subtle and seem like they planned it from the start, not just midweek.

Tl;dr next Civillian series could be the last series, Ben Frow and fans (I wouldnt say a lot, but I've seen many on here and on Facebook and Twitter agree) want it (Emma's hinted that she'd like a return to the C4 era, too), the biggest changes would be the editing and promo, live feed (they've said they wouldnt introduce it back and it'd certainly ruin how much they could manipulate) and given how ratings are already a shambles, only change to something shown to be popular could possibly save it, even if it's a gamble and may break it. ("Make or break" heu heu heu)

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
30-07-2017, 02:05 AM
no

Ant.
30-07-2017, 02:09 AM
no

I'm being idealistic don't remind me that production are so deadset on BB being reality TV and not a social experiment

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
30-07-2017, 02:12 AM
i don't even think back to basics would bring the viewers back now anyway :(

it needs a break

Mitchell
30-07-2017, 02:16 AM
I'm guessing All Stars tbh

Ant.
30-07-2017, 02:17 AM
i don't even think back to basics would bring the viewers back now anyway :(

it needs a break

Maybe if Back to Basics aired in 2014 or maybee even 2015 it would, but I agree, maybe the brand's been tarnished too much :(

As much as I'd hate to see BB go, I do agree. It'd give some room for some series rewatches and would probably entice more viewers when it returns than anything they could churn out now.

I'd definitely see it going to Sky and maybe ITV (ITVBe maybe? Or 2) after a break (I doubt it'd be long though - I can honestly see it just being a year or 2 hiatus). No doubt the edit will again then, and maybe that'd bring back the viewers

Ant.
30-07-2017, 02:20 AM
I'm guessing All Stars tbh

I'd LOVE a full-length All Stars series (what if that's why they haven't said we should apply for BB19?! :o ), even though I see many against it. They're definitely not against including C4 HMs as we know from BB16, and it'd be great to see a housemate from each series, giving us an 18-person series.
That being said, they could make a great All-Stars with just C5 housemates too, but they'd probably need to resort to CBB housemates as well

Jason.
30-07-2017, 02:21 AM
No.

The show's been dead for ten years and it's merely Big Brother by name now. I don't think even resting it would bring back the viewers. The show's been going on for almost twenty years and it's had its day.

CherryTango
30-07-2017, 02:47 AM
My heart says yes to a back to basics format in 2018, but my brain says it just won't work. :sad: while I respect that a lot of people liked this series, I honestly thought it was one of the worst and I didn't really like anyone in there that much, leading me to believe the show desperately needs a break (or a miracle :angel: )

Cal.
30-07-2017, 08:10 AM
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=323601&highlight=

Is this the one you meant?

RichardG
30-07-2017, 08:54 AM
no, every year we think the next will be 'back to basics' yet it never happens

i can guarantee you that bb19 will continue down the same path the show has been on since bb11

Littlegreen
30-07-2017, 09:56 AM
They just need to focus more on the house and the housemates themselves, instead of attempting to create a narrative by manipulating certain situations. Yes those n charge may have links to TOWIE, Geordie Shore and the like, but they need to understand BB is not one of them and never will be.

Glenn.
30-07-2017, 10:17 AM
They need to take it off air and rest it for about 10yrs tbh

_baileys_
30-07-2017, 10:22 AM
TBH I have had more fun with BB watching re-runs of old C4 episodes of BB the C5 version of BB has done very little other than become something it was never meant to be (eg love island ex on the beach etc)

Every year I live in hope that civilian BB really will be just that Civilians not contestants from other reality shows all shipped in for 'shock' ratings which imho is killing the show....

I have been watching since BB1 and will always remember the day Nick was busted by the HMs.. THAT in itself was a ratings goldmine... nowadays a 'fight' ' a boob' ' a snog' 'showmance' list is endless of terrible seen it all before its getting old faster than a spice girls record.. which is sad as Bb started out with such a following that lost sleep with 24/7 live feed for months on end year after year was perfectly ok... now BB are lucky if people watch the HL show...

Underscore
30-07-2017, 10:30 AM
Discontinue BB for 5 years then come back to it.

Ant.
30-07-2017, 10:33 AM
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=323601&highlight=

Is this the one you meant?

YES Thankyou

Time
30-07-2017, 10:34 AM
I highly doubt it but I'd love for them to go back to basics. That's all they really need to do if that want to bring back the viewers.