Chanelle and Isabelle don't speak anymore? (speculation from Chanelle's tweet)

[Headie]

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The replies are all saying "the person you and Raph were talking about was Isabelle" and that they heard her and Isabelle stopped speaking :o

[Matthew.]

It will be sad if they don’t. Either way, they were both some of 2017’s finest.

[RileyH]

Issy doesn't need them

[Jack_]

I did think that tweet a few days ago was about her but then only a day or so before that Issy had tweeted Raph asking him for his number (cause she'd 'lost it' idk) so I presumed not

Chanelle > anyway so idc

[Black Dagger]

Chanelle is a desperate twat on social media so Issy >>>

[Amy Jade]

I hope not. Issy seems too nice to drop them.

[Epic.]

Just checked. Chanelle still follows Isabelle but she doesn't follow Chanelle :think:

EDIT: My mistake. They do still follow each other but it's weird Chanelle didn't mention her then

[Jordan.]

Issy caring when she's out there LIVING with her real friends.

[Marsh.]

Yawn.

Call me when she drops Raph.

[Ant.]

this is more tragic than the Charah break up and no one can convince me otherwise

[Eddie.]

nooo. the two QUEENS of BB18...

[Alf]

Pair of slags

[Kazanne]

Isabell has probably realised that Chanelle is an an embarrassment,so has done the right thing, good for her.

[Ross.]

What is this beef Raph has with Isabelle I NEED to know

[Denver]

Channelle is a cheap slag

[MB.]

Issy won!

[Greg!]

Pair of slags

So what if they are?

[Headie]

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Is this shade :suspect:

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[RileyH]

isn't Issy a fan of the show as well? I remember her saying stuff about it :suspect:

[Greg!]

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Is this shade :suspect:

Ugh sounds like it :(

The best housemate WON, who cares if they're an obsessive fan or not

[Lush]

That's devastating if true. Issy and Chanelle were such a strong duo and I loved their friendship :(

[Macie Lightfoot]

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Is this shade :suspect:

talk about nagl

[Lush]

Raph also shaded Issy on here a while back and many of us picked up on it.

I wonder what happened?

[Jordan.]

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Is this shade :suspect:

BITTER. Is he still trying to convince himself he lost for "being a person of color" :skull:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I mean he's clearly still mad he lost to her.

[Matthew.]

isn't Issy a fan of the show as well? I remember her saying stuff about it :suspect:

Yeah, but I don’t think she is to the extent to Raph and us are

[Morgan.]

Issy strikes me as a casual viewer tbh (doesn't go out of her way to watch an episode but if it's on will watch) whereas Raph and Debs obviously watch every episode, or at least try to.

[Daniel.]

When will Raph realise he lost because he was dull and not because he is apparently a ‘person of colour’

[Jordan.]

If I was Deborah I'd honestly be offended at a rich white trump voting male considering themselves as "cursed" as me.

[Macie Lightfoot]

yeah like a well-groomed, well-to-do rich guy who is half (?) Asian thinking his BBUK Winner fate was sealed just as much as the young black girl who talked in the DR exclusively in A Black Accent is absurd. And like, for being such a ~gameplayer~... Isabelle won bc she played the best game whether she knew it or not.

[Black Dagger]

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Lmao. He bitter af.

[Wizard.]

yeah like a well-groomed, well-to-do rich guy who is half (?) Asian thinking his BBUK Winner fate was sealed just as much as the young black girl who talked in the DR exclusively in A Black Accent is absurd. And like, for being such a ~gameplayer~... Isabelle won bc she played the best game whether she knew it or not.

This. And Isabelle remains unbothered. I always say with these shows, I don't actually care if a housemate is fake in the house or putting on an act and are totally different on the outside world, if I liked you on the TV show and you were popular and won because of it, you played an amazing game and came up with a good character so props to you.

[Wizard.]

Lmao. He bitter af.

Well even if Raph had won, I wouldn't say the curse would have been broken seeing as Jun won BBUSA. Also Brian Belo won so meh there's no 'people of colour' curse. Isabelle is technically the first orange winner of Big Brother so she breaks boundaries.

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[Jason.]

I've never really understood the whole 'defying the odds' thing when someone like Isabelle is far more representative of the least-winning archetype on this show than someone like Raph (or any other male for that matter.) Women in general, especially sexually-confident women always have and always will get the **** end of the stick on Big Brother. Heck, the fact both Isabelle and Savannah were topping the votes against the entire house when they were only in there for a week pretty much tells you all you need to know about this show.

[Denver]

Raph as confirmed he is bitter

[Jack_]

People on here are weird, of course he's going to be bitter he didn't win. Most of you would be too if you came within an inch of winning £100k and/or your favourite show :umm2:

I don't agree with his theories of why he thinks he lost, but I still understand why he's disappointed

[Jason.]

Also why is Chanelle critcising people for fame getting to their heads when she's brought into her own hype more than anyone else that series? Gerruh job.

[Denver]

People on here are weird, of course he's going to be bitter he didn't win. Most of you would be too if you came within an inch of winning £100k and/or your favourite show :umm2:

I don't agree with his theories of why he thinks he lost, but I still understand why he's disappointed

But you dont turn on the winner who you claim is a friend

[Jack_]

But you dont turn on the winner who you claim is a friend

Why not? How do you, I, or anyone else on this forum know exactly what has happened between the three of them? All we know of them is the 48 minutes a night we watched over the summer, we don't know them as people (well, a few do) or what they're like in their real lives...pretty difficult to surmise who's in the right and who's in the wrong.

Winning Big Brother is not a prerequisite to 'I must like this person forever'.

[Denver]

Issy isnot a bad person you would have to worship Satan to hate her

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A white person winning again doesn't mean a curse. It means that this particular white person (Isabelle) was favored the most (and for good reason).

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This part is tragic though</3

[Jack_]

Issy isnot a bad person you would have to worship Satan to hate her

Have you met her then or are you just someone who believes that you know her because you watched her on TV for 48 minutes a day over 7 weeks?

For what it's worth, I don't disagree, and I'd guess that I'd probably get on more with Issy than I would Chanelle in real life. But the fact is I don't know that for sure, and I (along with everyone else) certainly don't know the circumstances in which all of these issues seem to have arisen. Someone doesn't have to be a bad person per se to fall out with them.

[LukeB]

Why not? How do you, I, or anyone else on this forum know exactly what has happened between the three of them? All we know of them is the 48 minutes a night we watched over the summer, we don't know them as people (well, a few do) or what they're like in their real lives...pretty difficult to surmise who's in the right and who's in the wrong.

Winning Big Brother is not a prerequisite to 'I must like this person forever'.

Yepp. Big brother ended months ago and they were fine post-bb for weeks, it’s only recently this happened so something might have happened but we will never know, if raph turned on her for beating him he would have done it straight after BB and not months later. We will have to wait and see if they spill

[Epic.]

I've never really understood the whole 'defying the odds' thing when someone like Isabelle is far more representative of the least-winning archetype on this show than someone like Raph (or any other male for that matter.) Women in general, especially sexually-confident women always have and always will get the **** end of the stick on Big Brother. Heck, the fact both Isabelle and Savannah were topping the votes against the entire house when they were only in there for a week pretty much tells you all you need to know about this show.

Comments like these make me wonder why the forum still doesn't have a like button

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[Macie Lightfoot]

People on here are weird, of course he's going to be bitter he didn't win. Most of you would be too if you came within an inch of winning £100k and/or your favourite show :umm2:

I don't agree with his theories of why he thinks he lost, but I still understand why he's disappointed

I mean, I think there's a huge difference in attitudes between "man, I really wish I won. I'm a huge fan of BBUK so it would have been nice" and "Deborah and I know why we didn't win :smug::smug::smug: we were screwed from the get-go for reasons." It's just not a good look when you're still making excuses for why you lost months later instead of just realizing that Isabelle played a better game. Whether or not it's intentional, it's almost like he's trying to undermine her win and imply that she only won because she's white.

[Jodie.]

If Isabelle was a black gal would she still have won? I actually think yes

I have detected Issy SHADE for so long and I WANT to know why

[Jordan.]

Anyway I just love that Issy is paying all their indirects DUST

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[montblanc]

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i saw that rn and i had to check the forum to see if anyone posted about it :joker:

[Jack_]

I mean, I think there's a huge difference in attitudes between "man, I really wish I won. I'm a huge fan of BBUK so it would have been nice" and "Deborah and I know why we didn't win :smug::smug::smug: we were screwed from the get-go for reasons." It's just not a good look when you're still making excuses for why you lost months later instead of just realizing that Isabelle played a better game. Whether or not it's intentional, it's almost like he's trying to undermine her win and imply that she only won because she's white.

Like I said, I don't agree with his reasoning at all, but totally understand why someone in his position would feel disappointed, bitter, even resentful and would start trying to rationalise (or irrationalise) the reasons why they didn't win. I think the large majority of people on here would be the same if they'd just lost out on £100k, and that's why I'm not understanding all the 'omg he's so bitter!' posts...that should go without saying, especially if the person who beat you is someone you now dislike.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I would maybe understand that initially, but the show ended at the end of the July. It's now November. If he really wanted to figure out why he lost and why she won rather than just making excuses, he could've figured that out by now. The fact that he's still making snipes and jabs through tweets and forum posts is a bit pathetic if I'm being honest, and it's reflecting more poorly on him than on anyone else.

[Jack_]

I would maybe understand that initially, but the show ended at the end of the July. It's now November. If he really wanted to figure out why he lost and why she won rather than just making excuses, he could've figured that out by now. The fact that he's still making snipes and jabs through tweets and forum posts is a bit pathetic if I'm being honest, and it's reflecting more poorly on him than on anyone else.

I don't think losing your favourite show (or the money) is something one would ever really get over. Again, I agree re. the digs, but then what we all have to understand is his perspective will always be different to ours because he lived it 24/7. He will always be more privy to what happened in the house than the viewers will, and so that's more likely to skew his perception as to who he'd think would be a deserving winner. Factor in his now (seeming) disinterest in Isabelle and I totally understand the frustration.

I don't think he's watched the show back but if he did and said 'okay, I get why Issy won with the edit she got but they didn't show her doing this, and they omitted Deborah doing x and this and y and z' would that really be any better? His perception is always going to be different to ours, and it would be his word against people who didn't live through it. I can imagine it would be very difficult to put yourself in the position of a viewer if you'd experienced it yourself, you can't separate the two.

[Vicky.]

I mean, I think there's a huge difference in attitudes between "man, I really wish I won. I'm a huge fan of BBUK so it would have been nice" and "Deborah and I know why we didn't win :smug::smug::smug: we were screwed from the get-go for reasons." It's just not a good look when you're still making excuses for why you lost months later instead of just realizing that Isabelle played a better game. Whether or not it's intentional, it's almost like he's trying to undermine her win and imply that she only won because she's white.

I don't really see how this is different to the many many posters who claim that people won't win because they aren't white. Every year we get it. Raph (from memory) has spoke about this before.

I kind of feel like if it had been anyone but Isabelle winning, the usual 'its just because they are white!!!' excuses would be used here. Its just as Isabelle was so popular with the forum that this 'curse' thing is being ridiculed now :shrug: Its been said for years and year, and everytime theres a winner that some posters dislike...its used.

[Greg!]

Anyway I just love that Issy is paying all their indirects DUST

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Loool same

[LukeB]

I don't really see how this is different to the many many posters who claim that people won't win because they aren't white. Every year we get it. Raph (from memory) has spoke about this before.

I kind of feel like if it had been anyone but Isabelle winning, the usual 'its just because they are white!!!' excuses would be used here. Its just as Isabelle was so popular with the forum that this 'curse' thing is being ridiculed now :shrug: Its been said for years and year, and everytime theres a winner that some posters dislike...its used.

This member does have a personal issue with raph btw

But exactly raph isn’t the only one to do it and it wasn’t hardly an issue but why is it an issue now :s

[Marsh.]

Is Raph still calling himself a woman of colour?

[Macie Lightfoot]

This member does have a personal issue with raph btw

But exactly raph isn’t the only one to do it and it wasn’t hardly an issue but why is it an issue now :s

If you want to dismiss my criticisms bc "well of course Macie feels that way, he doesn't like Raph" then just read most of the other posts in this thread bc it's the same sentiment.

[Jack_]

I don't really see how this is different to the many many posters who claim that people won't win because they aren't white. Every year we get it. Raph (from memory) has spoke about this before.

I kind of feel like if it had been anyone but Isabelle winning, the usual 'its just because they are white!!!' excuses would be used here. Its just as Isabelle was so popular with the forum that this 'curse' thing is being ridiculed now :shrug: Its been said for years and year, and everytime theres a winner that some posters dislike...its used.

This is a fair point actually. It seems a bit convenient that such a prolific argument is mocked when the forum's fave wins, but then TiBB has never been known for its consistency.

The truth is that BBUK winners generally win because they're bland and inoffensive, there's not much more to it. Isabelle was just lucky she was easily the best of a lacklustre bunch.

[LukeB]

If you want to dismiss my criticisms bc "well of course Macie feels that way, he doesn't like Raph" then just read most of the other posts in this thread bc it's the same sentiment.

I’m only saying the truth and vicky’s point proves it wasn’t an issue before when other people say it but raph said it’s an issue. There’s even a thread about this stuff and most people agreed.

[Jordan.]

Pretty sure no is disputing his claim that people of colour are at a disadvantage in BB, it's the fact he regards himself in that category when he could pass for completely white.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I’m only saying the truth and vicky’s point proves it wasn’t an issue before when other people say it but raph said it’s an issue. There’s even a thread about this stuff and most people agreed.

With regards to Vicky's point, I think it's absolutely possible to acknowledge that while people of color tend to be at a disadvantage on BBUK, not every person of color loses because they are black or Asian or whatever else. Again, Isabelle winning had everything to do with Isabelle and The Game that she played, possibly without even being aware of it. Raph got outplayed, not out-whited.

You can call it the truth (TM), but your point about me disliking Raph prior to the show can just as well be applied to you having your head up his ass before he went onto the show. It works both ways hun...x

[LukeB]

This is a fair point actually. It seems a bit convenient that such a prolific argument is mocked when the forum's fave wins, but then TiBB has never been known for its consistency.

The truth is that BBUK winners generally win because they're bland and inoffensive, there's not much more to it. Isabelle was just lucky she was easily the best of a lacklustre bunch.

And from Raph’s tweet he wasn’t talking about himself and only himself he was also talking about Deborah because a black female has never got past 3rd place or won big brother in the uk or internationally but i agree with what you said.

[Ant.]

Issy is a big brother legend
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[Marsh.]

Countless boring blokes have floated to the end. How was Raph at a disadvantage?

[Amy Jade]

I wish I had never supported Raph when I see stuff like this, comes across as really sly and pathetic.

No wonder she beat him by such a landslide. He's come off as quite bitter that she absoloutely destroyed him in the final vote ever since he left the house.

[Marsh.]

And from Raph’s tweet he wasn’t talking about himself and only himself he was also talking about Deborah because a black female has never got past 3rd place or won big brother in the uk or internationally but i agree with what you said.

Because she's black and female or because they generally pick black females with a certain personality type?

[LukeB]

Because she's black and female or because they generally pick black females with a certain personality type?

well the stats are there and that was his point which is said A LOT on tibb by many others aswell (have no issue with that) but it shouldn't be a issue now when there wasn't one before

[LukeB]

it seems Chanelle as more of an issue with Isabelle more than Raph does. Something obviously happened.

[Marsh.]

well the stats are there and that was his point which is said A LOT on tibb by many others aswell (have no issue with that) but it shouldn't be a issue now when there wasn't one before

Yeah, but the stats aren't very informative.

I can name countless types of people that have never won or made the final, but BB (especially in the last 6 years) is very narrow in its choice of housemate so you're definitely going to see patterns in the types of people that prove popular and the ones that don't.

Is there irrefutable evidence that the viewers will not allow black women to win? No, not really.

You put 9 out of 10 white people in a house with a black person, and how likely is it the black person will win? An even slimmer chance when 50% of them are floaters.

[Marsh.]

I don't really see how this is different to the many many posters who claim that people won't win because they aren't white. Every year we get it.

The difference here being Raph thinks of himself highly enough to arrogantly claim to be the real winner, who was robbed of the title due to prejudice.

Rather than Isabelle simply being a more popular person.

Raph isn't in the best position to be making that kind of claim. He's biased as the person "robbed" of the winning title.

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Lotes taught Raph well :clap1:

[Amy Jade]

I'm more bothered by his obvious shade towards Issy yet he's so false about it, Niamh and I noticed when he came back his opinions of her were vague and when asked he pretended all was good, fine keep whatever to yourself if you want but it opens him up to being called a bitter loser to randomly start being off about her.

Also if he's the super fan he insists he is why does he forget Brian Bello won? any curse of a poc winning ended there...should more black people have woen? Yes. Deana and Makosi off tge top of my head but Raph simply wasn't a deserving winner. The public agreed and he got obliterated in the final.

[Amy Jade]

As much as I love Chanelle too if she's pressed Issy won she should look at her actions in the last week - she caused her own eviction, the last week of her was rough being a fan.

[LukeB]

Yeah, but the stats aren't very informative.

I can name countless types of people that have never won or made the final, but BB (especially in the last 6 years) is very narrow in its choice of housemate so you're definitely going to see patterns in the types of people that prove popular and the ones that don't.

Is there irrefutable evidence that the viewers will not allow black women to win? No, not really.

You put 9 out of 10 white people in a house with a black person, and how likely is it the black person will win? An even slimmer chance when 50% of them are floaters.

Can't really predict this stuff but who knows, but things happen and get judged differently and a black female never winning is going to get people discussing, yes Raph talks about this and did stats about it but he isn't the only one like Vicky said it's common on tibb, Pete even made a thread about it and people agreed with what he said.

The difference here being Raph thinks of himself highly enough to arrogantly claim to be the real winner, who was robbed of the title due to prejudice.

Rather than Isabelle simply being a more popular person.

Raph isn't in the best position to be making that kind of claim. He's biased as the person "robbed" of the winning title.

Raph never said he was the rightful winner he was talking about Deborah as i said. The isabelle issue is recent months later and it seems it's mostly Chanelle who has the bigger issue with Isabelle. So her winning being an issue seems unlikely

[Marsh.]

Can't really predict this stuff but who knows, but things happen and get judged differently and a black female never winning is going to get people discussing, yes Raph talks about this and did stats about it but he isn't the only one like Vicky said it's common on tibb, Pete even made a thread about it and people agreed with what he said.



Raph never said he was the rightful winner he was talking about Deborah as i said. The isabelle issue is recent months later and it seems it's mostly Chanelle who has the bigger issue with Isabelle. So her winning being an issue seems unlikely

"WE defied all odds"

What odds did he defy exactly?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Were you not aware that well-groomed half-Asians who come from affluent upbringings have a historically bad track record on BBUK?!?!?!

[LukeB]

"WE defied all odds"

What odds did he defy exactly?

you have to ask him, first asian american male to be final 2 who knows idk, not going to assume stuff because it could not be true and some fans like bb odds stuff but what Raph says is an opinion hold by some of TIBB and it's no big deal and i guess you will have to wait to see if this Isabelle stuff is actually true and keep an eye on their twitters for more and they all still follow each other.

[MB.]

Raph's the only (partially) Asian-American male to have even been on the show, there weren't any "odds" for him to defy

[LukeB]

Raph's the only (partially) Asian-American male to have even been on the show, there weren't any "odds" for him to defy

didn't say it was it was just a silly example, as i said you will have to ask him

[Marsh.]

you have to ask him, first asian american male to be final 2 who knows idk, not going to assume stuff because it could not be true and some fans like bb odds stuff but what Raph says is an opinion hold by some of TIBB and it's no big deal and i guess you will have to wait to see if this Isabelle stuff is actually true and keep an eye on their twitters for more and they all still follow each other.

First American-Asian final 2 and also the first American-Asian altogether?

That's a pretty impressive track record. :laugh:

[Wizard.]

There’s been a person of colour or people of colour in the final 3 more so than not and also the first evictee is usually white so Tracy Beaker shut ya big fat gob!

[MB.]

There’s been a person of colour or people of colour in the final 3 more so than not and also the first evictee is usually white so Tracy Beaker shut ya big fat gob!

I think you'll find that Mandy defied the odds by being the first ever randy person to be evicted first

[Wizard.]

I think you'll find that Mandy defied the odds by being the first ever randy person to be evicted first

And Marco being the first son of a celebrity chef to be evicted first I mean talk about going against the stats

[Marsh.]

There’s been a person of colour or people of colour in the final 3 more so than not and also the first evictee is usually white so Tracy Beaker shut ya big fat gob!

:joker::joker::joker:

[LukeB]

There’s been a person of colour or people of colour in the final 3 more so than not and also the first evictee is usually white so Tracy Beaker shut ya big fat gob!

because most of the cast are white

but this was a diverse season and Deborah did tell Hannah they beat the stats etc and the odds did break by Hannah not getting evicted on VTE when some of tibb think she was obviously going.

[Wizard.]

Also I loved Chanelle but unless you lick her arsehole I imagine she complains so just cause Issy isn’t obsessed with her she probably got the hump!

[MB.]

And Marco being the first son of a celebrity chef to be evicted first I mean talk about going against the stats

Don't forget Sada, the first ever person to move to Argentina and change their name to Guru Amrit Dev to be evicted first

[Wizard.]

because most of the cast are white

but this was a diverse season and Deborah did tell Hannah they beat the stats etc and the odds did break by Hannah not getting evicted on VTE when some of tibb think she was obviously going.

Exactly you can’t complain on a show that’s so messy anyone could be evicted at anytime they did well to make it as far as they did and to say they didn’t win because of the colour of their skin takes away their achievements

[Marsh.]

because most of the cast are white

Not surprising in a country that is 80% white.

A black person making the final 3 more often than not is more impressive than it sounds.

[Wizard.]

Not surprising in a country that is 80% white.

A black person making the final 3 more often than not is more impressive than it sounds.

Let’s face it anyway it’s better to be iconic than win and most of the iconic housemates were black

[LukeB]

Not surprising in a country that is 80% white.

A black person making the final 3 more often than not is more impressive than it sounds.

Makosi
Gina
Deborah
Brian
Adam
Darren

6/18 not really often. A black female winning will be big deal on tibb which was going to be Lateysha and by super fans international.

[MB.]

Let’s face it anyway it’s better to be iconic than win

Luckily for us, Isabelle did both :)

[MB.]

Makosi
Gina
Deborah
Brian

4/18 not really often. A black female winning will be big deal on tibb which was going to be Lateysha and by super fans international.

What kind of Darren and Adam shade?

[LukeB]

What kind of Darren and Adam shade?

6/18 then :oh:

i forgot about them

[MB.]

6/18 then :oh:

i forgot about them

Typical erasure of ethnic minorities from history, tut tut

[Marsh.]

6/18 then :oh:

i forgot about them

6/18 in a country 80% white. Wow! :amazed:

[Marsh.]

And "black women" are not the only non-whites.

Bloody offensive sh*ts.

[Wizard.]

Makosi
Gina
Deborah
Brian
Adam
Darren

6/18 not really often. A black female winning will be big deal on tibb which was going to be Lateysha and by super fans international.

I wasn’t just meaning Black people you could also count Jackson, Deana, Siavash, Dexter and Dave and Nadia oh and Raph

[LukeB]

I wasn’t just meaning Black people you could also count Jackson, Deana, Siavash, Dexter and Dave and Nadia

Asian winner has already been done, i was talking about black females really and that's common on tibb too, it;s not often they make final 3 and they never get past third place,

But you know and everyone knows if a black female wins BB it would make history and big a massive deal on forums. BBUS/CAN are most likely to do that first. who is Dave?

[Wizard.]

Asian winner has already been done, i was talking about black females really and that's common on tibb too, it;s not often they make final 3 and they never get past third place,

But you know and everyone knows if a black female wins BB it would make history and big a massive deal on forums. BBUS/CAN are most likely to do that first. who is Dave?

Not on BBUK? Okay we haven’t had a female black winner but Charley is coming for that title in 2020. Besides we’ve had a lot more diverse winners than other versions.

Omg how dare you shade Dave of Monkship fame!

[Marsh.]

Asian winner has already been done

So Raph can stick that in his pipe and smoke it.

[Wizard.]

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[MB.]

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Thanks for reminding Raph that no matter how hard he tried, he still placed no better than the annoying Welsh twat who did nothing but shout the word "glory" for two and a half months

[Wizard.]

Thanks for reminding Raph that no matter how hard he tried, he still placed no better than the annoying Welsh twat who did nothing but shout the word "glory" for two and a half months

:joker:

[Marsh.]

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Crop the feet out before Scott sees.

[LukeB]

Not on BBUK? Okay we haven’t had a female black winner but Charley is coming for that title in 2020. Besides we’ve had a lot more diverse winners than other versions.

Omg how dare you shade Dave of Monkship fame!

It could happen, it nearly happened last year but Jason got rid of her but BBCAN is more likely be the first because why not? Ika was sooooooo close.. BBUK is more likely than BBUS actually.

We kind of do but people just want that moment to finally happen before it dies maybe Deborah will win all-stars

[Raph]

Just to quickly address some points here:

1) In my tweet, I am talking about the third place black girl curse, not myself. Me and Deborah spoke about this many times in the house, and that is the context of me saying this.

2) In terms of the part of defying the odds, I can't say much about what production tells us in the house, but I can tell you that me and Deborah were both advised that people of our demographics (black female, american-asian male) don't do well, so we were very proud to be able to make the end, despite the odds.

It's crazy how tweets can taken out of context, and thank you to the members here for explaining what I meant. Won't post anymore here I think as all of this is so weird to read, especially as Jack stated I know so many more layers of the show, and the housemates on the outside now so it's strange to discuss it. Also to see people I really like getting insulted on here, ain't cute!

[Macie Lightfoot]

okay but more importantly tell us about Rachel Rice

[Cal.]

I can't believe he's left TiBB without spilling any tea.

[andybigbro]

If anything I think Isabelle defied the odds. She went in as a latecomer with very little support, was topping the eviction vote when all were housemates up, destroyed lotan who tried to be alpha male, won the hearts of the nation and had a massive turnaroud and then beat a superfan in the final who knows the show “inside out” :clap1:

Plus in terms of descriptions, a bleach blonde bronze young girl is very unlikely to be thought of winning Big Brother.


I can understand why Raph must find it strange to see people discussing him and his big brother friends, and it’s sad to see him feel this way. But I guess he knew this sort of thing would happen if he went on the show and also posts on a discussion forum.

[caprimint]

Just to quickly address some points here:

1) In my tweet, I am talking about the third place black girl curse, not myself. Me and Deborah spoke about this many times in the house, and that is the context of me saying this.

2) In terms of the part of defying the odds, I can't say much about what production tells us in the house, but I can tell you that me and Deborah were both advised that people of our demographics (black female, american-asian male) don't do well, so we were very proud to be able to make the end, despite the odds.

It's crazy how tweets can taken out of context, and thank you to the members here for explaining what I meant. Won't post anymore here I think as all of this is so weird to read, especially as Jack stated I know so many more layers of the show, and the housemates on the outside now so it's strange to discuss it. Also to see people I really like getting insulted on here, ain't cute!
I get it must be upsetting/weird to see this, but it was inevitably gonna happen as you know what TiBB is like (and any discussion forum tbh), so don't leave based on some of the **** you read here, you're aware of more stuff than the majority or all of the people here are most likely and it ultimately doesn't matter what some randomers think of what you tweet/post etc. :love:

[Amy Jade]

I can't believe he's left TiBB without spilling any tea.

Never expected him to anyway

[rusticgal]

Also to see people I really like getting insulted on here, ain't cute!


Isn't that part of the 'forum' experience????....:shrug:

[Ant.]

what do yall think issy ate for dinner today? do you think she's been anticipating this meal for weeks? or did she spotaneously pop onto just-eat for a kebab on a whim? maybe she demolished a micro meal :) regardless, i hope her day's been as good as her meal :love:

[Epic.]

what do yall think issy ate for dinner today? do you think she's been anticipating this meal for weeks? or did she spotaneously pop onto just-eat for a kebab on a whim? maybe she demolished a micro meal :) regardless, i hope her day's been as good as her meal :love:

Thanks for the info Nicky

[Marsh.]

Hi, I know things, but I can't say. Bye.

[Headie]

Just to quickly address some points here:

1) In my tweet, I am talking about the third place black girl curse, not myself. Me and Deborah spoke about this many times in the house, and that is the context of me saying this.

2) In terms of the part of defying the odds, I can't say much about what production tells us in the house, but I can tell you that me and Deborah were both advised that people of our demographics (black female, american-asian male) don't do well, so we were very proud to be able to make the end, despite the odds.

It's crazy how tweets can taken out of context, and thank you to the members here for explaining what I meant. Won't post anymore here I think as all of this is so weird to read, especially as Jack stated I know so many more layers of the show, and the housemates on the outside now so it's strange to discuss it. Also to see people I really like getting insulted on here, ain't cute!

Where's Hannah & Issy in your sig </3

[andybigbro]

Hi, I know things, but I can't say. Bye.

Sure jan

[Matthew.]

Where's Hannah & Issy in your sig </3

Not enough space to include them.

[Jordan.]

Mess at him adressing some points but staying silent on the main thread topic.

[Ant.]

Sure jan

I think Marsh was shading Raph's knowledge of many things (the Issy shade, Rachel Rice, some awkwardness with Hannah? Arthur's suspicious exit) yet he remains silent and leaves the forum? (tbh i took that as Raph not posting on this thread anymore but if he meant forum then welp)

[Ant.]

RAPH do you have a dog?

[Matthew.]

I think Marsh was shading Raph's knowledge of many things (the Issy shade, Rachel Rice, some awkwardness with Hannah? Arthur's suspicious exit) yet he remains silent and leaves the forum? (tbh i took that as Raph not posting on this thread anymore but if he meant forum then welp)

Yeah, i think there are some things that he can’t reveal. I imagine that Arthur’s exit is to remain a secret as well as what happened to go from Fight Night 3 to Love, Peace and Harmony.

Without sounding too much like the voice of reason, as it’s not my place to be, I would say that we do need to respect that he can’t tell us absolutely everything, or else it would be violating his contract.

[Ant.]

Yeah, i think there are some things that he can’t reveal. I imagine that Arthur’s exit is to remain a secret as well as what happened to go from Fight Night 3 to Love, Peace and Harmony.

Without sounding too much like the voice of reason, as it’s not my place to be, I would say that we do need to respect that he can’t tell us absolutely everything, or else it would be violating his contract.

Rachel Rice being in Raph's contract :love: still relevant 9 years on?

[Amy Jade]

Yeah, i think there are some things that he can’t reveal. I imagine that Arthur’s exit is to remain a secret as well as what happened to go from Fight Night 3 to Love, Peace and Harmony.

Without sounding too much like the voice of reason, as it’s not my place to be, I would say that we do need to respect that he can’t tell us absolutely everything, or else it would be violating his contract.
I respect the fact some things are kept a secret but this is a BB fansite, members are bound to speculate.

[Marsh.]

Hi, I know some more things. Bye.

[Matthew.]

I respect the fact some things are kept a secret but this is a BB fansite, members are bound to speculate.

I mean that Raph shouldn’t feel pressured to reveal everything, it may mean breaking his contract, if he does

[Barry.]

I mean that Raph shouldn’t feel pressured to reveal everything, it may mean breaking his contract, if he does

Can they arrest him or something?

[Wizard.]

Probably because Isabelle doesn’t buy Chanelle things seems like that’s the main value she finds in a “friend”

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[Black Dagger]

tramp

[Greg!]

I've think I've gone off Chanelle. Really liked her in the house but she's coming across as a bit of a bitch recently :(

[Greg!]

Probably because Isabelle doesn’t buy Chanelle things seems like that’s the main value she finds in a “friend”

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Silly cow didn't Isabelle literally pay to take her on holiday

[Epic.]

I guess something risque happened during the holiday to Marbs

[Jordan.]

You can tell she's the type who let's her friends pay for everything

[Black Dagger]

I've think I've gone off Chanelle. Really liked her in the house but she's coming across as a bit of a bitch recently :(

She's so ****ing tedious on Twitter.

Constantly retweeting about how she and Raph should have another show or dragging Rebecca.

[Jason.]

I'm surprised Raph still bothers with her after the way she acted when he went out for lunch with Rebecca.

[Marsh.]

Probably because Isabelle doesn’t buy Chanelle things seems like that’s the main value she finds in a “friend”

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Making the tweet about "friends who if I had a present for them would be straight round to visit me." Sounds like herself.

Would she have bothered tweeting if she'd been invited for Christmas dinner to his 2 up 2 down in Manchester and taken her for her nails done in the little shop on the corner?

[caprimint]

Raph showing what a good-hearted lovely guy he is. :clap1:

[Littlegreen]

Isabelle was always the third wheel so I'm not surprised she was the one to fall by the wayside.

It's like school friendships isn't it? Some we stay in contact with, others we say hello now and then...

[JerseyWins]

This thread makes it a lot more disappointing that Isabelle won over Raph & Deborah. </3