Avengers: Infinity War (Spoilers Within)

[Brother Leon]

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10 years+ resulting in this. All the shine for Wakanda.

Tears will be shed in May.

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[Ramsay]

The end :lovedup:

[BBfanUSA]

There's no Hawkeye, he's dying.

He is so dead.

May he rest in piece.

Also dat ending. SEXY AF

[Barry.]

Looks good.

[Wizard.]

There's so many now wow

[Brother Leon]

2nd trailer out.

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[user104658]

People seem to think ther 's going to be loads of deaths but I doubt it. I can see hawkeye either dying or quitting... good chance Vision will die when the infinity stone is plucked from his head, though I'd say there's a chance his body / mind will survive but without his powers (he might end up basically human, so not dead but pretty useless as an avenger). There's a rumor that Stark loses an arm (based on some early artwork that shows an Iron Man suit with a huge cannon type gun where one arm should be) so he might retire / pass the Iron Man role to someone else. I highly doubt Thor will die, and there's also talk of a Black Widow standalone movie so she's probably safe. Ant Man has a scheduled movie so is safe, as is Spider-man, obviously, Sony would never allow the death of Spidey - their franchise has only just started! Black Panther 2 also announced. And I can't see any of the GotG dying either, especially as they're likely to make up the "lighter side" of the film.

We might lose some "sidekick characters" I guess.

Cap... Is probably going to die, in a mirror of Coulson's death in the very first Avengers, with his death being the thing that rallies everyone to fight together. Bucky will take on the Captain America role but I would also NOT be at all surprised if Steve appears again somewhere further down the line (in a future single character movie or Avengers) and is not actually dead.

[Tom4784]

One of the main theories is that (potential massive spoilers since it's pretty likely)

Cap will die but the film will end on a cliffhanger as it's revealed that he is a Skrull and that we never actually met the original cap as the Skrulls have had him since he went into the ice.

That'll lead into Captain Marvel and a secret invasion plotline for Avengers 4.

Hawkeye's definitely dead though, I think. I think a lot of other exits will just be characters moving on.

[Brother Leon]

Got my tickets ready for Thursday with the Fiancé and If I enjoy it I may go again on Saturday with friends. Premiere was yesterday and first reactions are largely positive. 10 Years leading up to this, I’m so hype.

[Tom4784]

I'm going on Sunday :clap1:

[Oliver_W]

I loved it :D
it was Nostalgic to see Red Skull again, and Gomora's death made me sad :( I hope they can bring back Spider-man, Wanda, Loki, Star-Lord, Sam, and Doctor Strange. I don't care too much about the others who turned to ash really.
It's hard to be too worried about any of them when the plot device can literally change the universe though ...

[Barry.]

Loved it too, was a great movie, long though.

[RileyH]

I bawled like a little bitch @ Gamora's death

[Oliver_W]

I bawled like a little bitch @ Gamora's death

I kind of take back wanting her to come back to life, it'd kind of cheapen it if it were reversed. The ash-deaths were basically due to a spell, so them being reversed matters less...

[RileyH]

I kind of take back wanting her to come back to life, it'd kind of cheapen it if it were reversed. The ash-deaths were basically due to a spell, so them being reversed matters less...

Why is Gamora?

[Oliver_W]

Why is Gamora?

Well her death was part of the story, it was a consequence of Thanos chasing his dream. It also had effects on other people, like the other Guardians. Starlord flipped out, and stopped his allies from being able to take the gauntlet.
The ash-deaths were the result of a "spell". If someone got the gauntlet, and used it to "undo everything it has done so far", the ash-deaths would be reversed, but Gamora's wouldn't, as she was killed physically, not magically. There's also the fact the ash deaths were more of a cliffhanger than a plotpoint, as we're wondering if/how they will be resolved for the next movie(s). Gamora's death was something to move the plot of this movie along.

[Scarlett.]

I'm wondering if

some of the characters will swap for the ones that died? Such as Tony for Peter, and Thanos for Gamora

[Amy Jade]

I have never seen a Marvel film but went to watch this the other day and really enjoyed it.

I was so sad when Spiderman died and the woman with red hair too (Elizabeth Olsen?) and they orange guy with tattoos as they were my favourites.

I guess some other deaths would have stung if I knew them well enough, too. I am still not sure what was going on or understand why the guy with glove wanted people dead though...

[user104658]

Well her death was part of the story, it was a consequence of Thanos chasing his dream. It also had effects on other people, like the other Guardians. Starlord flipped out, and stopped his allies from being able to take the gauntlet.
The ash-deaths were the result of a "spell". If someone got the gauntlet, and used it to "undo everything it has done so far", the ash-deaths would be reversed, but Gamora's wouldn't, as she was killed physically, not magically. There's also the fact the ash deaths were more of a cliffhanger than a plotpoint, as we're wondering if/how they will be resolved for the next movie(s). Gamora's death was something to move the plot of this movie along.

I dunno, they never actually confirm her death though, and the point was that he had to make a sacrifice... so the theory Dezzy posted (that she actually is / or is inside the soul stone) makes a lot of sense really. Someone has to die in order for anyone to take the soul stone... and it's the SOUL stone... so perhaps, it's actually created for the person seeking it by using that person's soul. Which would then in theory mean that if the soul stone is destroyed, Gamora could reappear in its place :think:.

I have a horrible feeling they might undo ALL of the deaths in Infinity War. But probably in the first half of Avengers 4 - with some real deaths coming in the "real" final confrontations.

Also something else I noticed; basically all of the guardians who COULD fade, did fade? Not actually 50/50. The survivors were Rocket and Nebula but both would technically be immune... since Thanos' goal was to wipe out 50% of "human or humanoid" life. Rocket is technically a Raccoon / an animal, just an enhanced one... and as we saw earlier in the film, Nebula is so augmented that she's basically a machine rather than a humanoid.

[Scarlett.]

The Netflix series' are gonna have to acknowledge this or do some massive sidestepping...

[user104658]

The Netflix series' are gonna have to acknowledge this or do some massive sidestepping...Right but how do they acknowledge it and have the world on total chaos and then undo it all when it's inevitably undone? :think:

Agents of Shield will probably do it, but it's traditionally stuck closer to the movie lore than Netflix. The fall of SHIELD in Winter Soldier totally changed the show [for the better], also it was revealed that Coulson was involved in restoring the helicarrier that serves as the lifeboat in Avengers 2, and they help with the cleanup after Thor trashes a town in Thor 2... Etc. Also I heard somewhere that Coulson is actually in Captain Marvel (as it will feature 90's-era SHIELD).

Netflix tends to just be references, and quite vague ones at that. How are they going to get around this one?

[Tom4784]

The Netflix shows has only ever acknowledged the first Avengers film, I don't think they'll touch on Infinity War at all, it'll just be a case that, like with what Agents of Shield probably, all the main characters were incredibly lucky :laugh:

That or the Netflix shows take place before and after Infinity War so we don't see it's effects on the shows.

[user104658]

The Netflix shows has only ever acknowledged the first Avengers film, I don't think they'll touch on Infinity War at all, it'll just be a case that, like with what Agents of Shield probably, all the main characters were incredibly lucky :laugh:

That or the Netflix shows take place before and after Infinity War so we don't see it's effects on the shows.

I can pretty much guarantee that, if they do have a "fading" in AoS, we will indeed see all of the main characters "luckily" survive whilst pretending to be sad that a bunch of nameless Redshirt SHIELD rookies have disintegrated :joker:.

I can't see Netflix being allowed to have any released this year set after Infinity War... because that would "spoiler" (even though we all know it'll happen) the fact that the world gets its 50% back in Avengers 4. So they'll have to be before... and there are at least 2 shows coming before Avengers 4 - Luke Cage in just a few weeks, and Iron Fist - plus the possibility of DD3 or Punisher 2. It'll be interesting to see where they go with it but I feel like it'll create more of a disconnect than there already is (which is a shame imo).

For references... they don't do it often, but I'm sure one of the more recent ones (might have been Defenders?) had a throw-away comment about a "guy in a spider suit" or something like that :think:.

[Scarlett.]

The Raft (The prison from Civil War) was a pretty big plot point in Jessica Jones S2

[user104658]

The Raft (The prison from Civil War) was a pretty big plot point in Jessica Jones S2

True; plus being asked "if she knows Captain America". Also, just the general idea that people have become used to "enhanced individuals" like Jessica and Luke Cage living amoungst them, which would likely be due to the Inhumans plotline of AoS (we won't talk about the actual Inhumans series... that didn't happen :umm2: ).

[Jordan.]

Finally saw it yesterday and it was just insanely good from start to finish & I think we ALL know the most emotional scene was Groot giving up his arm for Thors new hammer :flutter:

[RileyH]

I think we ALL know the most emotional scene was Groot giving up his arm for Thors new hammer :flutter:

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[Jordan.]

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[Marsh.]

*still waiting for Black Widow's solo movie*

[Oliver_W]

I caught up with Thor Ragnarok and
now I'm more sad that Loki is (ostensibly) dead, and Valkyrie and The Thing are probably dead too :(

[RileyH]

Since when was queen Valkryie dead??

[Tom4784]

Valkyrie's not dead, the directors confirmed that she and Rocky got away before the attack.

[Tony Montana]

Finally saw it yesterday and it was just insanely good from start to finish & I think we ALL know the most emotional scene was Groot giving up his arm for Thors new hammer :flutter:

I think we all know the most Emotional part is whenTony Cradles Peter in his Arms and Peter Crying He doesn't want to Die

[Oliver_W]

Ohh cool, I hadn't heard that! I just assumed as they weren't mentioned, they were among those who died in the attack.

[Oliver_W]

I think we all know the most Emotional part is whenTony Cradles Peter in his Arms and Peter Crying He doesn't want to Die

Even when we know that
Homecoming 2 is coming
that was stilll really gutwrenching!

[RileyH]

I think we all know the most Emotional part is whenTony Cradles Peter in his Arms and Peter Crying He doesn't want to Die

I still cry over that like it's literally the only thing I think about

[user104658]

Ohh cool, I hadn't heard that! I just assumed as they weren't mentioned, they were among those who died in the attack.

I thought they were all dead too, but it's since been confirmed that most of the Asgardians escaped in pods when Thanos showed up (and the reason that Valkyrie didn't stay to help fight was that she was tasked with leading them to safety).

[user104658]

I think we ALL know the most emotional scene was Groot giving up his arm for Thors new hammer :flutter:

He didn't even give it up tho, it grew back instantly :think:.

[Oliver_W]

He didn't even give it up tho, it grew back instantly :think:.

Yeah, if there was some kind of consequence it would be more meaningful. Fighting one-handed is a good way to get defeated.

[Tony Montana]

I still cry over that like it's literally the only thing I think about

Yeah, That Scene and Gamoras Death Hit Me The Hardest

A Phenomenal Masterpiece this Film is!!

[Tony Montana]

Even when we know that
Homecoming 2 is coming
that was stilll really gutwrenching!

It Kind of Makes the Whole Scene quite Pointless, But a Fantastic Film Nonetheless

[Oliver_W]

It Kind of Makes the Whole Scene quite Pointless, But a Fantastic Film Nonetheless

Though the real cliffhanger is, how will it be resolved? I really hope it's not something like, people not Snaptured can exchange their lives for those who were. We need Tony to stay alive, dammit!

[RileyH]

Yeah, That Scene and Gamoras Death Hit Me The Hardest

A Phenomenal Masterpiece this Film is!!

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[Oliver_W]

I don't really mind if the Snapped people come back to life, but those who died before really should stay dead, especially [1] who was killed by strangulation. [2] and [3] were argably killed by "magic" so they're return would be more likely, but I'd still say no.
1=Loki 2=Gamora 3=Vision

Oh, and
Even if Thor doesn't have solo films henceforth, I think he should join the Guardians :D

[Tony Montana]

I don't really mind if the Snapped people come back to life, but those who died before really should stay dead, especially [1] who was killed by strangulation. [2] and [3] were argably killed by "magic" so they're return would be more likely, but I'd still say no.
1=Loki 2=Gamora 3=Vision

Oh, and
Even if Thor doesn't have solo films henceforth, I think he should join the Guardians :D

I am Hoping All three of them stay dead. Don't get me wrong, i would love for them to return, But you just killed off three big Characters in Extremely Heartbreaking ways and It would be stupid and Unrealistic to Just Undo them in the Next Film

One of the aspects i loved about Infinity War was the Emotional Connection we had to the Characters,Especially Gamora whose Death was the Least Unexpected

[Tony Montana]

I don't really mind if the Snapped people come back to life, but those who died before really should stay dead, especially [1] who was killed by strangulation. [2] and [3] were argably killed by "magic" so they're return would be more likely, but I'd still say no.
1=Loki 2=Gamora 3=Vision

Oh, and
Even if Thor doesn't have solo films henceforth, I think he should join the Guardians :D

I Highly agree about what you said about Thor

[RileyH]

The ones who disintegrated obviously aren't dead but I don't want Gamora or Loki dead so even if it won't make sense or whatever I hope they come back :love:

[Oliver_W]

The ones who disintegrated obviously aren't dead but I don't want Gamora or Loki dead so even if it won't make sense or whatever I hope they come back :love:

I am Hoping All three of them stay dead. Don't get me wrong, i would love for them to return, But you just killed off three big Characters in Extremely Heartbreaking ways and It would be stupid and Unrealistic to Just Undo them in the Next Film

One of the aspects i loved about Infinity War was the Emotional Connection we had to the Characters,Especially Gamora whose Death was the Least Unexpected
I just feel like [1] and [2] have kind of finished their stories now - can you imagine [1] singing along like that in G1 and G2, and wanting to help the distress beacon? Can you imagine [2] doing ... well, everything he did in his scene? That development happened over the course of T3, so now he just feels kind of ... done.
1=Gamora 2=Loki

[Tony Montana]

The ones who disintegrated obviously aren't dead but I don't want Gamora or Loki dead so even if it won't make sense or whatever I hope they come back :love:

I would Put Spoilers on that Immediately, Riley

[Oliver_W]

I watched Civil War again earlier, the airport fight is one of the best in Superherodom tbh

[RileyH]

I would Put Spoilers on that Immediately, Riley

why :suspect:

[Tony Montana]

I watched Civil War again earlier, the airport fight is one of the best in Superherodom tbh

It's one of the Best Comic Book action scenes of all time, If not the Best.

[Tony Montana]

why :suspect:

Because im Sure some people have not watched it yet.

[RileyH]

Because im Sure some people have not watched it yet.

If they haven't seen it why would they be looking in this thread which obviously will have spoilers lmao

[Tony Montana]

If they haven't seen it why would they be looking in this thread which obviously will have spoilers lmao

You Never Know really. Just to be on the safe side.

[Oliver_W]

If they haven't seen it why would they be looking in this thread which obviously will have spoilers lmao

To be fair the thread's title makes it sound like just the trailer is out. If someone just hadn't noticed the movie was out now, they might be looking for rumours etc

[Tony Montana]

To be fair the thread's title makes it sound like just the trailer is out. If someone just hadn't noticed the movie was out now, they might be looking for rumours etc

Yeah He needs to Edit that ASAP

[RileyH]

It's been out for over 2 weeks

[user104658]

I watched Civil War again earlier, the airport fight is one of the best in Superherodom tbhLies :hmph: for all of its other inherent flaws, the three major sequences in Batman vs Superman are flawless (BvS itself, Batman vs the Marthaaa kidnappers, and Batman/Supes/WW against Doomsday.

Also the whole of Winter Soldier. Although I guess that's closer to straight up movie action than comic book action...

However...tbh... Age of Ultron Sokovia battle is better put together than airport battle.

WAIT... Actually... The airport battle isn't even the best action on civil war itself! Cap and Bucky vs Iron Man is better. :think:

This is all fact and not opinion so.

[RileyH]

I haven't even seen Civil War welp

[Oliver_W]

Lies :hmph: for all of its other inherent flaws, the three major sequences in Batman vs Superman are flawless
I will admit I nearly wet myself when Superman wrenched a bathroom sink off the wall to hit Batman. One of the most unintentionally hilarious things I've ever seen.

All those DC films are such boring, nonsensical clusterfukcs, that even the "good" elements are soured by being part of such garbage.

[user104658]

I will admit I nearly wet myself when Superman wrenched a bathroom sink off the wall to hit Batman. One of the most unintentionally hilarious things I've ever seen.

All those DC films are such boring, nonsensical clusterfukcs, that even the "good" elements are soured by being part of such garbage.

It's the Snyder effect to be honest... I don't think it was the right direction for the DC films, at least not on his own, they could have potentially had two directors... one for character work and Snyder for action :think:. Because if you enjoy CGI-based action... honestly... for me his stuff is a cut above. I don't know if you've seen "Sucker Punch"... but again, the character story is an unholy mess, it makes DCU look competent, but the robot-assassins-on-a-train fight sequence (...yeah...) is literally my favourite CGI-based sequence... by a mile. It's just flawless.


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:amazed:

Marvel's action sequences rarely come close to be honest. Full of shakycam and a bad habit of cutting away on impact.

Just a shame Snyder can't put together a cohesive film :hehe:

[Oliver_W]

Is Sucker Punch the one where
Budget Luna Lovegood is an asylum, but daydreams about a fantasy world?
If so I couldn't finish it, but I'll probably give it another go at some point.


I see Marvel v DC fight scenes as similar to Original v Prequels of Star Wars. The OT has okay but limited action, made exciting due to what the fights represent and their role in the story. The PT has technically better fight scenes, but it means less because the characters aren't as developed.

That's just a loose analogy though. I enjoy the PT movies for what they are, I just see DC as dirge.

[Tom4784]

DC gets a bad rap because it's more profitable to hate on DC for the clicks and it's more profitable to support the MCU.

BVS was not great but it was in no way shape or form worse than the first two Thors or the Iron Man sequels. I think the only truly bad DC film has been Justice League and that's because DC was trying to emulate MCU.

MCU tends to get away with a lot that other franchises wouldn't. The villain problem is a huge one (which thankfully seems to be getting better after Spiderman, Black Panther, Thor and Infinity War) as is the fact that basically every hero has the same personality bar one or two quirks, they are all witty and sarcastic and some characters like Tony Stark and Doctor Strange are basically the godamn same character.

[RileyH]

If you think Tony Stark and Doctor Strange are basically the same, you need to rewatch and get a grip

Get the daft bitch!

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[user104658]

Justice League's number one problem is that it started trying to emulate Avengers half way through its production... The tone of the film is totally disjointed and it shows.

Another major issue was them trying to play catchup rather than just going at their own pace, meaning they went full throttle into Justice League without much buildup. There should, IMO, have been a second Superman movie and a standalone Batman movie BEFORE BvS, plus a standalone Flash origin movie after WW but before JL. JL itself could then have spend more time on Cyborg in the opening act (the character is wafer thin), plus they could have gotten "bumbling Flash" out of the way in his own movie, allowing him to be inspired by the others in JL, opening up a second Flash movie where he's closer to full-ability.

And they should have skipped the actual live Atlantis scenes with Aquaman with him (or the villain himself) only verbally referring to the fact that Steppenwolf must have been there to get the box... Which would then lead into the Aquaman film following JL (the attack on Atlantis prompting him to get more involved).

Oh also, they should have kept Suicide Squad dark and had it after the majority of these villains had been introduced in other movies (Deadshot / Harley actually IN Batman, etc.)

"Rushed" sums it up best, I guess.

[Tom4784]

DC is ****. Marvel is a brilliant success. If you think Tony Stark and Doctor Strange are basically the same, you need to rewatch and get a grip

Why are you so angry?

Doctor Strange is literally just Iron Man with magic instead of wealth. Same character archetype, same character journey, similar personalities.

[user104658]

Why are you so angry?

Doctor Strange is literally just Iron Man with magic instead of wealth. Same character archetype, same character journey, similar personalities.

Iron Man is sort of a half-way point between Strange and Starlord, if you think about it :think:.

To be fair I don't really have a problem with them being similar; it would actually be pretty UNrealistic to get together a group of, say, 10 random people and have every one be a totally unique and distinct personality. Some people just ARE similar.

[Oliver_W]

I can't remember which reviewer/YT ****poster said this, but can you imagine the DC movies having a 30 minute subplot where the characters make an axe, and have it be fun? Could and would never happen!

[user104658]

I can't remember which reviewer/YT ****poster said this, but can you imagine the DC movies having a 30 minute subplot where the characters make an axe, and have it be fun? Could and would never happen!To be fair, it was only REALLY fun because the "giant" was Tyrion Lannister :joker:. That was surely a major win for their casting department.

[Oliver_W]

meh I didn't care about him, I just love me some Thor and Rocket the "Rabbit" <3