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Sam
10-05-2007, 07:47 PM
One of my TiBB friends, Remy or sunshine30 as you may no him, has had a heated debate with me over language barrier difficulites.

He said:

i"m gone in an italian college

I told him that its incorrect, and you say either:

i've gone to an italian college (or) i've been to an italian college.

He still thinks he is right which is understandable as he is French, but as he uses TiBB i would like you all to reply saying that you can't say "I'm Gone" and say its right, so he would understand where he went wrong.

Much appreciated, thanks. :cheer2:

Ella
10-05-2007, 07:49 PM
Its usually I've gone to....Or I'm going to...I think!

SiMoN!
10-05-2007, 07:50 PM
i've been to an italian college.

Sam
10-05-2007, 07:50 PM
Thanks, when Remy sees this thread, he'll understnad :cheer2:

Captain.Remy
10-05-2007, 07:52 PM
I just understand that you are ********* annoying sam really ! That's what I understand and nothing else !

SiMoN!
10-05-2007, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Ella
Its usually I've gone to....Or I'm going to...I think!

i've gone to an italian college

:bored:

Sam
10-05-2007, 07:52 PM
No need to be like that, i was only trying to help you understand where you went wrong.

Captain.Remy
10-05-2007, 07:54 PM
and if i don't want to ? that's my choice ! so let me, me and my "i'm gone" end of the discussion sam.
i always wrote that in my tests, i always said that in england, and there is no prob about it, maybe it depends the persons i don't know.

nodisharmony
10-05-2007, 07:54 PM
Hi Sam:thumbs:

Click on this link & you will find the anser to your problem.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

I am sure Remy meant well:thumbs:





nodisharmony :angel:

Sam
10-05-2007, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by sunshine30
and if i don't want to ? that's my choice ! so let me, me and my "i'm gone" end of the discussion sam.
i always wrote that in my tests, i always said that in england, and there is no prob about it, maybe it depends the persons i don't know.

Well its wrong, i was only trying to help. :rolleyes:

SiMoN!
10-05-2007, 07:55 PM
can i just say

nodisharmony you are full of infomation

Sam
10-05-2007, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Hi Sam:thumbs:

Click on this link & you will find the anser to your problem.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

I am sure Remy meant well:thumbs:


Doesnt really help though, the problem lies in the fact, that in france, the past tense, you say " I am gone" or " Je suis alle" so hes literally translated.

nodisharmony
10-05-2007, 07:57 PM
I sort out problems quickly, so arguments don't happen.

It's time for things to stay peaceful:thumbs:



nodisharmony :angel:

Captain.Remy
10-05-2007, 07:58 PM
thanks sam, maybe u get what u wanted, now people think i don't speak english, thanks sam now u could be really popular as u wanted !

Captain.Remy
10-05-2007, 07:59 PM
and i don't want to argue, it was just a problem between sam and me, and i don't see why he did that, that's all.

Sam
10-05-2007, 08:00 PM
Remy, you speak excellent English, it was only a very small thing that i just wanted to point out. I dont care if im popular or not, it doesnt bother me

nodisharmony
10-05-2007, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Sam™
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Hi Sam:thumbs:

Click on this link & you will find the anser to your problem.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

I am sure Remy meant well:thumbs:


Doesnt really help though, the problem lies in the fact, that in france, the past tense, you say " I am gone" or " Je suis alle" so hes literally translated.


I understand what you say Sam:thumbs:

But sometimes you have to look at the problem that you have and just agree to disagree.

If one member thinks that they are definitely right and so does the other, then it is very hard to come to an agreement.

Just accept the situation, shake hands, make up and debate about something different.

If the link I gave didn't help, just type in the Google search, "Language translater" and see what you can find. I am sure it will give you the answer.



nodisharmony :angel:

Chrizzle
10-05-2007, 08:03 PM
Remy, if you cant speak english then my name is Agnus.
You speak amazing english!

Its just one mistake

Captain.Remy
10-05-2007, 08:03 PM
by the way, i asked one of my english exchange, charlie, he lives in london and said to me it's absolutely english to say "i'm gone", so end of discussion coz it's getting ridiculous.
so maybe english language is different, it depends of the cities.

Sam
10-05-2007, 08:03 PM
Language translators are never 100% accurate. I only posted to try to help, i thought maybe seeing a range of opinions might help the situation , but obviously didnt

Captain.Remy
10-05-2007, 08:04 PM
Message original : nodisharmony
Originally posted by Sam?
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Hi Sam:thumbs:

Click on this link & you will find the anser to your problem.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

I am sure Remy meant well:thumbs:


Doesnt really help though, the problem lies in the fact, that in france, the past tense, you say " I am gone" or " Je suis alle" so hes literally translated.


I understand what you say Sam:thumbs:

But sometimes you have to look at the problem that you have and just agree to disagree.

If one member thinks that they are definitely right and so does the other, then it is very hard to come to an agreement.

Just accept the situation, shake hands, make up and debate about something different.

If the link I gave didn't help, just type in the Google search, "Language translater" and see what you can find. I am sure it will give you the answer.



nodisharmony :angel:

i just want to precise that i don't need a translator to speak in english, and i know what the translators say and how they translate the words.

Sam
10-05-2007, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by sunshine30
by the way, i asked one of my english exchange, charlie, he lives in london and said to me it's absolutely english to say "i'm gone",

Then thats just odd.Im sorry if I offended you Remy but it wasnt meant in that mean way. I think we should agree to disagree.

nodisharmony
10-05-2007, 08:09 PM
A lot of people say that the English language is one of the hardest languages to understand?

It is easy when you were born here and only understand English.

I know that Remy is well versed in quite a few languages, and that takes somebody with a real good memory indeed!

That's me out the way :laugh:

My memory is terrible:sad:

Anyway, if anybody is struggling to find the answer on a language translater, then just leave it, or find someone else who speaks the language fluently and can tell you whether it is true or not.

It is a very small problem, isn't it:thumbs:




nodisharmony :angel:

Captain.Remy
10-05-2007, 08:12 PM
sam, i said in my u2u why i'm getting angry so read it and u will understand.
and tibb members, i speak english very well, it's not because there is some differences in the english language that i can't speak well. that's not my fault lol, it's just a big confusion, but one thing is real...i love you so much !!!! :spin2:

lily.
10-05-2007, 08:13 PM
I'd say it's probably a good idea to lock this thread. Glad you guys have sorted it out though, and Remy, your English is better than some of the English people who post here.. :laugh: :tongue:

Captain.Remy
10-05-2007, 08:14 PM
Message original : nodisharmony
A lot of people say that the English language is one of the hardest languages to understand?

It is easy when you were born here and only understand English.

I know that Remy is well versed in quite a few languages, and that takes somebody with a real good memory indeed!

That's me out the way :laugh:

My memory is terrible:sad:

Anyway, if anybody is struggling to find the answer on a language translater, then just leave it, or find someone else who speaks the language fluently and can tell you whether it is true or not.

It is a very small problem, isn't it:thumbs:




nodisharmony :angel:

english language is so easy to understand really, its not complicated, less tenses than in french, no accents and stuff like that ! :bigsmile:

Bells
10-05-2007, 08:15 PM
Haha I'm glad it's been sorted. English is a really difficult language to learn I think, but you speak (well, write) it so well Remy! As L said, probably better than a lot of English people even! I bet you speak it clearly as well.

Sam
10-05-2007, 08:16 PM
I didnt get a u2u Remy

Bells
10-05-2007, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by sunshine30
english language is so easy to understand really, its not complicated, less tenses than in french, no accents and stuff like that ! :bigsmile:

Actually, you're right. There's the odd thing in English which is irregular, but generally we have less tenses and strict grammar, PLUS no accents - which is why I find French a bit of a nightmare to learn... :laugh:

Captain.Remy
10-05-2007, 08:19 PM
Message original : Ash
Haha I'm glad it's been sorted. English is a really difficult language to learn I think, but you speak (well, write) it so well Remy! As L said, probably better than a lot of English people even! I bet you speak it clearly as well.

Fortunatly, everybody is cool with me, and don't judge me by a "false" mistake.:laugh:

by the way, good night everyone ! :thumbs:

nodisharmony
10-05-2007, 08:25 PM
U2Uing is a great way of sorting misunderstandings, but a topic like this is very good, as it shows how a small disagreement can happen and become bigger & bigger.

But, by mutual understandings and agreeing to disagree eventually solves the problem. So the possible fall-out between two members is nipped in the bud instead:thumbs:

Even when it didn't start out that way :wink:



nodisharmony :angel:

Sam
10-05-2007, 08:27 PM
lol i still didnt get a u2u though

nodisharmony
10-05-2007, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by S!
lol i still didnt get a u2u though

It's sorted Sam, ( Now "S!" )

thats a quick name-change?:spin2:




nodisharmony :angel:

lily.
10-05-2007, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
U2Uing is a great way of sorting misunderstandings.......

I think that might be the first time you have called it a "U2U" instead of a UTU Nick. :shocked: :wink:

nodisharmony
10-05-2007, 09:07 PM
I have said UTU so many times and just didn't spot the mistake for ages:bawling: nevermind, I have corrected now Linda. Nice of you to point it out though :rolleyes:

______________________________________
To S!

Don't worry about it:thumbs:

Time is the greatest healer:wink:




nodisharmony :angel:

sol
10-05-2007, 09:47 PM
Such a crime...

I think your English is brilliant Remy. :thumbs:

Ruth*Star
10-05-2007, 09:51 PM
Yeah your English is awesome, you made a mistake, people do that at times.

Mrluvaluva
10-05-2007, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by L

I think that might be the first time you have called it a "U2U" instead of a UTU Nick. :shocked: :wink:


lol. It's true Nick.

Sunny_01
10-05-2007, 11:00 PM
it would be such a shame to fall out over this. I Think Sam that you possibly should apologise to Remy! he may not always get it right but he relies on friends not to make a big deal of it! maybe this should have been dealt with away from the open forum. Its kind of humiliating to have your faults talked about in public for someone to try and prove a point :flowers:

Sam
11-05-2007, 05:45 AM
Yeah I suppose, but i didnt mean in it a humilating way

Captain.Remy
11-05-2007, 06:00 AM
The thing is, some people said it's a mistake and some said it was correct. I can accept when I make a mistake but this time it's a big confusion, that's all. And I still upset the way it happened, there was no need to expose that here or call everybody on msn in order to show that. I know it was in order to help me, I'm not stupid, but the thing is, during 10 years nobody told me "I'm gone" was wrong, even now, and I know that I can use "I've been" (I know my irregular verbs perfectly lol :hugesmile:). My parents, both speak english fluently, I told them and 3 of my british exchanges, and there is no problem about it. Maybe it's not so english, but I still think you can use that. So now I hope you understand me better than yesterday and my reasons why I was so upset.
By the way, thank you everyone here cause you told me I have a awesome English, and sometimes better than some people on the forum, I'm really glad. Thanks ! :wink:

Sam
11-05-2007, 06:04 AM
Yeah, i feel sad about it too, it was a huge confusion, and im really sorry Remy, isent you a couple of u2us as well

Z
11-05-2007, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by L
I'd say it's probably a good idea to lock this thread. Glad you guys have sorted it out though, and Remy, your English is better than some of the English people who post here.. :laugh: :tongue:

i fut u sed i wus getn beta linaadd!1one




:spin:

lily.
11-05-2007, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Z
Originally posted by L
I'd say it's probably a good idea to lock this thread. Glad you guys have sorted it out though, and Remy, your English is better than some of the English people who post here.. :laugh: :tongue:

i fut u sed i wus getn beta linaadd!1one




:spin:

Aye wee man, ye urr... it wiz the English ah wiz tackin aboot... :thumbs:

Dr43%er
11-05-2007, 10:35 AM
Re the Babel fish thing http://babelfish.altavista.com/

I have been using that for ages for a round in a quiz I do.

You take a well known lyric and translate it in to another language.
Then you take the translation and translate it back in to English. The results can be very funny and there will be the odd key word that will give it away.

A very simple topical one. English to Italian to English.

London to Berlin all the direction from Paris to Tallinn Helsinki over to Praga does not import where we are - yeah yeah ye-ah Flying on to Amsterdam why interfered with them if you can hour we cruising in the sky and we are not singing it to you for.

Oh, and I have the up most respect for people that can speak more than one language.

nodisharmony
11-05-2007, 02:19 PM
Oh, and I have the up most respect for people that can speak more than one language.

That's a very positive thought Dr43%er:rolleyes:

But some people are ("not nice" people) and do speak two or more languages and I certainly wouldn't like them, or respect them.

Also, reading within that comment, it is implying that you respect those who speak more than one language.

But I would hazard an educated guess and certainly say that the majority of forum members would only speak "one language", so maybe it makes that large section of people rather bewildered and lost:puzzled:

I respect people who are worth respecting, regardless of whether they can speak more than one language.

Now that does make sense:thumbs:
_________________________________________

Language translators always help everyone and for whatever reason, whether it is for a quiz or an answer or just plain communicating.

That's not hard to work out, or, even worth explaining in (overdetail) which is why I was just happy to include the website link and what it does!




nodisharmony :angel:

Sam
11-05-2007, 03:09 PM
Its all sorted now, me and Remy are friends again =]

Sunny_01
11-05-2007, 04:19 PM
I think that Dr43% was saying that he respected that people can speak more than one language because of the committment it takes to learn them.

Not sure where your post came form or what motivated it Nick, I certainly did not for one minute think that he was saying he only respected those that could speak more than one language and dont really know where your confusion is coming from.

Sam
11-05-2007, 04:21 PM
that was a bit uneccesary

Captain.Remy
11-05-2007, 04:29 PM
Oh, and I have the up most respect for people that can speak more than one language.


Thank you, and glad to know that coz I speak French, English, Italian and Russian very well lol :laugh:

Sunny_01
11-05-2007, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by sunshine30

Oh, and I have the up most respect for people that can speak more than one language.


Thank you, and glad to know that coz I speak French, English, Italian and Russian very well lol :laugh:

My god Remy how clever are you? I always wished I could speak another language and have been considering trying to learn French or Spanish.

Captain.Remy
11-05-2007, 04:45 PM
In fact, it's from my family. My father was born in Russia and my mother is italian (her parents were born in Italy). Then when I was a child, it was a big mix in my house, between french at school, italian and russian at home, I've learnt that really quickly. My parents, both speak english and their own language and my sister speaks german and english. My parents decided to take an "english teacher" when I was 7 in order to teach to me. When I was 11, I've taken as my first compulsory foreign language, the english.
At 14, I've taken as my second compulsory language, the italian. And last year, I've decided to take russian, but it was not compulsory, it was a plus. My teachers don't understand how I can speak all those languages very well and congratulate my parents at all the time. I'va big and good memory, that's all !

Sunny_01
11-05-2007, 04:46 PM
well you should be very proud of yourself, the career options you have are endless with that amount of language expertise under your belt :dance:

Captain.Remy
11-05-2007, 04:49 PM
I want to work in the Hotels, so it's big advantage for me, I'm really proud and more because, I speak english better than my other languages and it's not my original language ! And I'm "only" 17 lol

Sunny_01
11-05-2007, 04:57 PM
good for you :flower:

Captain.Remy
11-05-2007, 05:09 PM
People are so impressed and surpised that a 17 y-o man can speak all those languages, but maybe I was born with that gift !

Sam
11-05-2007, 07:00 PM
Certainly a gift , its great you can speak all these languages, im practicly fluent in Welsh and am learning French.