View Full Version : Ann saying Meghan Markle is "trouble" because of her "background and attitude"...
Headie
10-01-2018, 12:40 AM
:umm2:
Firewire
10-01-2018, 12:40 AM
It's because she's black, silly!
Clootie Dumpling
10-01-2018, 12:43 AM
She was quite dismissive, but I didn't think she was being racist.
Headie
10-01-2018, 12:44 AM
It's because she's black, silly!
She's a REAL woman!
Jase.
10-01-2018, 12:45 AM
Racist old ****.
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 12:45 AM
Meghan bringing some colour to the party!
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 12:46 AM
Also, the way the genes fall with each generation of incest, Meghan is some much needed outsider blood to prevent the next group of kids being born with three legs.
GoldHeart
10-01-2018, 12:56 AM
She was quite dismissive, but I didn't think she was being racist.
What reason did she give ?!! , Sounds very strange and if she's going to make a comment like that she might as well give a reason why :conf: .
Is she against American blood getting in the Royal family, seems weird without her giving an explanation :suspect: . How can she know Megan will be "trouble" ?.
Oliver_W
10-01-2018, 12:58 AM
What is Meghan's background? (apart from her race I mean, Ann obviously didn't mean that)
Firewire
10-01-2018, 01:00 AM
What is Meghan's background? (apart from her race I mean, Ann obviously didn't mean that)
A successful actor, with a degree in theatre and international studies, as well as a humanitarian worker who has worked on behalf of various charities raising awareness and funds to those less fortunate around the world.
rusticgal
10-01-2018, 01:03 AM
Ann is old school...the last time a member of the Royal family fell for an American divorcee he abdicated.
Megan seems lovely...it's quite refreshing and her acceptance into the Royal family is a sign that the Royals are moving forward.
I don't think any offence was meant...it's a generation thing.
GoldHeart
10-01-2018, 01:18 AM
Ann is old school...the last time a member of the Royal family fell for an American divorcee he abdicated.
Megan seems lovely...it's quite refreshing and her acceptance into the Royal family is a sign that the Royals are moving forward.
I don't think any offence was meant...it's a generation thing.
Why didn't she specify what she meant though :rolleyes: . She can't just make a sweeping statement as "Megan will be trouble" and not give a reason why :conf: . So I believe it's a Xenophobic thing as Megan is American , but the Royal family isn't 100% British but whatever .
thisisdanny
10-01-2018, 01:24 AM
Love how once again Rachel asked her a question knowing she'd get a controversial answer :clap1:
Amy Jade
10-01-2018, 01:34 AM
A successful actor, with a degree in theatre and international studies, as well as a humanitarian worker who has worked on behalf of various charities raising awareness and funds to those less fortunate around the world.
Off with her head!
chuff me dizzy
10-01-2018, 09:44 AM
I agree with Ann ,I fear it will all end in tears, she's too pushy ( over talking Harry in engagement interview all the time) I just can't warm to her either,she's certainly no Princess Kate
Vanessa
10-01-2018, 09:45 AM
It's nothing to do with her race. It's probably because she's American. Look what happened the last time a royal fell for an American? That's her line if thinking, I feel.
chuff me dizzy
10-01-2018, 09:46 AM
Why didn't she specify what she meant though :rolleyes: . She can't just make a sweeping statement as "Megan will be trouble" and not give a reason why :conf: . So I believe it's a Xenophobic thing as Megan is American , but the Royal family isn't 100% British but whatever .
Don't put things out there without you have proof that what Ann meant, I dont like her either,but nothing to do with her colour or nationality or her being divorced, Theres just something not right with her
Megan has history with other men, if one of them publishes pictures or stories it could get very embarrassing. Its not the Megan is unsuitable, just that as she is not a virgin princess, there are potential issues
Ann has seen enough bad eggs in her lifetime to spot them a mile off.
GoldHeart
10-01-2018, 09:49 AM
Don't put things out there without you have proof that what Ann meant, I dont like her either,but nothing to do with her colour or nationality or her being divorced, Theres just something not right with her
Tbh I wrote this comment before I watched the HL show :laugh2: , and I was going by what other people said on here .
But I think it might be to do with the fact Meghan has been married before, but I don't know I still wondered if there was another reason. And no not a racist one .
Brillopad
10-01-2018, 10:11 AM
It's because she's black, silly!
Even if that had something to do with it there are many other ways that traditionally she would have been considered unsuitable to marry a royal ie divorced, non-virgin, older, not upper-class etc so to jump straight to the colour of her skin is blinkered.
chuff me dizzy
10-01-2018, 10:18 AM
Tbh I wrote this comment before I watched the HL show :laugh2: , and I was going by what other people said on here .
But I think it might be to do with the fact Meghan has been married before, but I don't know I still wondered if there was another reason. And no not a racist one .
Ann is maybe the same as me,its just a gut feeling that its just not genuine and Harry ( lovely lad) is going to get hurt ,I can see it ending in tears, IMO Meghan will use her role to bring attention to all her causes,this is not what being a member of the Royal family is about ,its about supporting the Queen and being an ambassador for the Uk
Crimson Dynamo
10-01-2018, 10:22 AM
drag her Ann
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 10:25 AM
It's nothing to do with her race. It's probably because she's American. Look what happened the last time a royal fell for an American? That's her line if thinking, I feel.
What happened?
The only thing I recall is the King abdicating because the woman had already been married. A completely different set of circumstances.
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 10:26 AM
Don't put things out there without you have proof that what Ann meant, I dont like her either,but nothing to do with her colour or nationality or her being divorced, Theres just something not right with her
Well Ann said background. That's nothing to do with not liking that she's talkative in interviews but specifically about where and what she's come from. Not saying Ann is racist but she's being judgemental about something like her nationality, her profession or whatever.
Vanessa
10-01-2018, 10:27 AM
What happened?
The only thing I recall is the King abdicating because the woman had already been married. A completely different set of circumstances.
I know it's a different case, but she was also unsuitable. Of course these days things have changed, so the royal family is more accepting.
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 10:28 AM
Megan has history with other men, if one of them publishes pictures or stories it could get very embarrassing. Its not the Megan is unsuitable, just that as she is not a virgin princess, there are potential issues
Yeah, there are no virgin princesses anymore. That's not a Meghan specific "problem".
The Royal family are hardly in a position to keep up the pretence of that tradition. Dirty adulterous and incestuous bastards, the lot of them.
hijaxers
10-01-2018, 10:29 AM
Love how once again Rachel asked her a question knowing she'd get a controversial answer :clap1:
Rachel is very good at that and Lady Colin said on CBBOTS she is a Johnson say no more.
GoldHeart
10-01-2018, 10:30 AM
Yeah, there are no virgin princesses anymore. That's not a Meghan specific "problem".
The Royal family are hardly in a position to keep up the pretence of that tradition. Dirty adulterous and incestuous bastards, the lot of them.
Which is why I don't know why Ann has a problem with Meghan, loads of people have been previously married .
Or is she against the PDA Harry & Meghan show . But whatever Ann has her views :rolleyes: .
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 10:34 AM
Ann is maybe the same as me,its just a gut feeling that its just not genuine and Harry ( lovely lad) is going to get hurt ,I can see it ending in tears, IMO Meghan will use her role to bring attention to all her causes,this is not what being a member of the Royal family is about ,its about supporting the Queen and being an ambassador for the Uk
Erm... Meghan has been forced to step down from all of those roles in order to take on the Royal duties.
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 10:35 AM
I know it's a different case, but she was also unsuitable. Of course these days things have changed, so the royal family is more accepting.
No she was only unsuitable because the King wasn't permitted to marry a divorced woman back then. It's a completely different scenario.
If Charles can marry his mistress I don't see the issue.
Vanessa
10-01-2018, 10:37 AM
No she was only unsuitable because the King wasn't permitted to marry a divorced woman back then. It's a completely different scenario.
If Charles can marry his mistress I don't see the issue.
I agree. I have no issue with Megan, but I think Ann is very old fashioned when it comes to marriage.
Kazanne
10-01-2018, 10:38 AM
What reason did she give ?!! , Sounds very strange and if she's going to make a comment like that she might as well give a reason why :conf: .
Is she against American blood getting in the Royal family, seems weird without her giving an explanation :suspect: . How can she know Megan will be "trouble" ?.
She said she sees trouble as in Megans families past ,she wasn't mean or racist in any way .
Niamh.
10-01-2018, 10:42 AM
No she was only unsuitable because the King wasn't permitted to marry a divorced woman back then. It's a completely different scenario.
If Charles can marry his mistress I don't see the issue.
Exactly and he's actually next in line to the throne, in reality Harry is never going to be king
Kazanne
10-01-2018, 10:44 AM
Erm... Meghan has been forced to step down from all of those roles in order to take on the Royal duties.
How has she been forced? she chose to be with Harry and all that entails,she always had that choice.
Kazanne
10-01-2018, 10:46 AM
I agree. I have no issue with Megan, but I think Ann is very old fashioned when it comes to marriage.
It's more to do with the family I think, isn't she estranged from her half sister after they fell out over something ?:shrug:
It's more to do with the family I think, isn't she estranged from her half sister after they fell out over something ?:shrug:
There are loads of opportunity for tabloid gossip, its bound to happen, so Ann is quite correct. As a monarchist she sees the potential trouble there could be. The monarchy is just not important to me, so I couldn't care less, and that's probably the modern view.
Livia
10-01-2018, 10:52 AM
That's Ann's opinion... and it's a minority opinion.
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 10:55 AM
How has she been forced? she chose to be with Harry and all that entails,she always had that choice.
Obviously. But she is not permitted to continue with those roles so to make out she's using her Royal status to benefit her own endeavours is absolutely nonsense as she has had to sacrifice her own endeavours for her in-laws. That's the point.
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 10:56 AM
It's more to do with the family I think, isn't she estranged from her half sister after they fell out over something ?:shrug:
Sounds like all of the people ostracized from the Royals including Harry's own mother.
I doubt they'd be do hypocritical. Would they? :think:
Patricia4
10-01-2018, 11:00 AM
I don't like her either he's had better girls in his life than her.
thesheriff443
10-01-2018, 11:01 AM
Opinions on opinions on opinions an so on
thesheriff443
10-01-2018, 11:03 AM
Harry is ginger and that's where the story ends.
Ellen
10-01-2018, 11:04 AM
Ann probably thinks there could be a lot of tabloid crap that gets printed about her that could embarrass the Queen/Royal family.
Niamh.
10-01-2018, 11:07 AM
I don't like her either he's had better girls in his life than her.
How do you know that though really? No one but Harry should be able to decide who was "better" for him
GreenIce
10-01-2018, 11:10 AM
It's because she's black, silly!
She's not black, she's mixed race. Her father is white and her mother is African American so mixed also. Meghan looks like a sister of Pippa Middleton, more than Kate does actually.
Niamh.
10-01-2018, 11:11 AM
She's not black, she's mixed race. Her father is white and her mother is African American so mixed also. Meghan looks like a sister of Pippa Middleton, more than Kate does actually.
oh she does actually look like Pippa now you mention it :o
chuff me dizzy
10-01-2018, 11:13 AM
I don't like her either he's had better girls in his life than her.
Yes he has !
Crimson Dynamo
10-01-2018, 11:17 AM
were there no immediate cousins he could marry?
:shrug:
Niamh.
10-01-2018, 11:18 AM
were there no immediate cousins he could marry?
:shrug:
Beatrice or Meghan? toughy :think:
Oliver_W
10-01-2018, 11:36 AM
Well Ann said background. That's nothing to do with not liking that she's talkative in interviews but specifically about where and what she's come from. Not saying Ann is racist but she's being judgemental about something like her nationality, her profession or whatever.
"and attitude", which is.
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 11:41 AM
"and attitude", which is.
Her comments went beyond just that. So let's not pretend she was simply talking about how she was in an interview.
Oliver_W
10-01-2018, 11:43 AM
Her comments went beyond just that. So let's not pretend she was simply talking about how she was in an interview.
Of course, I just meant that maybe her "background" is the divorced American thing, and the "attitude" is being talkative.
waterhog
10-01-2018, 11:44 AM
from anns comment all I get is - ann speaks her mind and I have to respect that.
Livia
10-01-2018, 11:45 AM
from anns comment all I get is - ann speaks her mind and I have to respect that.
I agree. And when she's called upon to explain herself, which she inevitably is, she is able to do just that.
waterhog
10-01-2018, 11:48 AM
back bone
Kazanne
10-01-2018, 12:10 PM
Ann probably thinks there could be a lot of tabloid crap that gets printed about her that could embarrass the Queen/Royal family.
Yes I think this is all there is to it she never mentioned her 'attitude' either as far as I heard, a mountain made out of molehill imo.
Northern Monkey
10-01-2018, 01:11 PM
I agree. And when she's called upon to explain herself, which she inevitably is, she is able to do just that.
Yep.That’s what i like about her.She always has a concise answer and she doesn’t mince her words.
caprimint
10-01-2018, 01:25 PM
I agree. And when she's called upon to explain herself, which she inevitably is, she is able to do just that.
Yeah exactly, I don't know on this occasion what my opinion is bc I don't know anything about Meghan (just seen her picture), but even when I disagree with her...her explanations are more than justifiable and valid
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 01:36 PM
Ann probably thinks there could be a lot of tabloid crap that gets printed about her that could embarrass the Queen/Royal family.
If the Queen can get over the embarrassment her own family brings them then I doubt there's anything Meghan can do. Lmao.
It would take something for her to beat Charles wishing he was a panty liner in Camilla's crusty knickers.
Crimson Dynamo
10-01-2018, 01:39 PM
Lady Di was a serial shagger and she is seen as a Princess
:rolleyes:
Ellen
10-01-2018, 01:43 PM
If the Queen can get over the embarrassment her own family brings them then I doubt there's anything Meghan can do. Lmao.
It would take something for her to beat Charles wishing he was a panty liner in Camilla's crusty knickers.
I dont know whether to throw up or laugh at that :eek:
Niamh.
10-01-2018, 01:58 PM
If the Queen can get over the embarrassment her own family brings them then I doubt there's anything Meghan can do. Lmao.
It would take something for her to beat Charles wishing he was a panty liner in Camilla's crusty knickers.
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If Prince charles doesnt want to be in the same position with India he is transphobic !
https://media1.tenor.com/images/6708554c9f928046aba9adc658065f3e/tenor.gif?itemid=10685448
Livia
10-01-2018, 02:07 PM
.........It would take something for her to beat Charles wishing he was a panty liner in Camilla's crusty knickers.
https://i.giphy.com/media/bLBIanKJW0Iuc/giphy.webp
Denver
10-01-2018, 02:07 PM
Is she like divorced and everything? i think thats what she means
jaxie
10-01-2018, 02:09 PM
I think Ann is entitled to an opinion and I very much doubt that race is in any way her motivation for feeling Meghan may prove to be less than perfect. The clip didn't allow for an explanation but I'm sure she would have given a sensible one if it had.
Personally I am not convinced by Meghan either, she seems a bit fake to me and I'm not convinced it will last. My opinion is not race motivated either, I am white, my own future daughter in law is not white and I adore her. So make of that what you wish!
Livia
10-01-2018, 02:15 PM
I think Ann is entitled to an opinion and I very much doubt that race is in any way her motivation for feeling Meghan may prove to be less than perfect. The clip didn't allow for an explanation but I'm sure she would have given a sensible one if it had.
Personally I am not convinced by Meghan either, she seems a bit fake to me and I'm not convinced it will last. My opinion is not race motivated either, I am white, my own future daughter in law is not white and I adore her. So make of that what you wish!
I wonder if Meghan has been given any priority with visas, indefinite leave to remain, naturalisation...?
Jamie89
10-01-2018, 02:30 PM
I did wonder when she said it. But thinking about it I'm not sure she'd be so stupid to have said that if it was racially motivated. She seems to always be able to explain herself when pushed so I imagine she would have explained this too had she been questioned by someone about those comments (Rachel really let us down there :laugh: ) and yeah if racism was behind them I think she probably would have just avoided saying anything at all.
Yes I think this is all there is too it she never mentioned her 'attitude' either as far as I heard, a mountain made out of molehill imo.
She did mention her attitude, it's just not really clear what she meant by it.
Niamh.
10-01-2018, 02:37 PM
Ann does seem to have alot of opinions I dont agree with, old fashioned ones mainly but something I haven't got from her amongst them all is racism, because she's so old fashioned though I'd imagine it's to do with Meghans age, the fact she's divorced, not English etc etc
Livia
10-01-2018, 02:43 PM
I agree with Niamh. It's a big change for the royals and that's going to irritate some of the Old Guard. First William marries a commoner, a very rich one but a commoner none the less, and then Harry brings home a mixed race actress! Those boys have done a great job of dragging the monarchy into the 21st Century. And I feel kind of protective of William and Harry. My Mum says she does too. She said she remembers those boys walking behind their mothers coffin and when she saw the handwritten note on the coffin that said "Mummy", she and so many women became silent and distant foster mothers. She's a sentimental old soul, my Mum.
Shaun
10-01-2018, 02:48 PM
just wait until Prince George grows up and brings home a transgender muslim, Livia!
Crimson Dynamo
10-01-2018, 02:51 PM
just wait until Prince George grows up and brings home a transgender muslim, Livia!
Off with her head
no wait that what will happen to him when he comes home late from the pub
:worry:
Disclaimer: this is meant for humorous purposed only and cannot be construed in any other way
Livia
10-01-2018, 02:56 PM
just wait until Prince George grows up and brings home a transgender muslim, Livia!
Let's hope that's a way in the future then... when he's like, 50. It'll give the Old Guard a chance to die off.
Of course, earlier, and it could kill them off. So not all bad...
Prince Andrew wanted to marry Koo Stark and he was basically told to end it, and that was maybe 35 years ago. That is probably the closet match to Harry now, both in terms of in line to the throne and the fact she was an american actress. So this is a big shake up for the establishment. Ann is probably more comfortable with those times
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 03:17 PM
Prince Andrew wanted to marry Koo Stark and he was basically told to end it, and that was maybe 35 years ago. That is probably the closet match to Harry now, both in terms of in line to the throne and the fact she was an american actress. So this is a big shake up for the establishment. Ann is probably more comfortable with those times
That's also the time Prince Charles married Diana purely to bear his children.
The family has changed a LOT since then. [emoji23]
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 03:21 PM
I never thought of Ann as a Royalist. :hehe:
chuff me dizzy
10-01-2018, 04:10 PM
I think Ann is entitled to an opinion and I very much doubt that race is in any way her motivation for feeling Meghan may prove to be less than perfect. The clip didn't allow for an explanation but I'm sure she would have given a sensible one if it had.
Personally I am not convinced by Meghan either, she seems a bit fake to me and I'm not convinced it will last. My opinion is not race motivated either, I am white, my own future daughter in law is not white and I adore her. So make of that what you wish!
Me too ,you would never see Kate grabbing onto Wills with 2 hands like she does to Harry ,it just seems all fake and something just not right about it to me ,and i love Dianas boys but feel Harry is going to get hurt
Niamh.
10-01-2018, 04:21 PM
Me too ,you would never see Kate grabbing onto Wills with 2 hands like she does to Harry ,it just seems all fake and something just not right about it to me ,and i love Dianas boys but feel Harry is going to get hurt
How on earth does that make a person fake? Why would she behave like Kate, they're from two different walks of life :laugh:
chuff me dizzy
10-01-2018, 04:23 PM
How on earth does that make a person fake? Why would she behave like Kate, they're from two different walks of life :laugh:
Kate is a lady through and through Meghan is not lady material, I can't put my finger on it,but theres just something about her
Ann is likely to be privy to information that we are not aware of, she may be old fashioned but she wouldn't have said what she did without some form of reason
Niamh.
10-01-2018, 04:25 PM
Kate is a lady through and through Meghan is not lady material, I can't put my finger on it,but theres just something about her
I really pity that poor girl, she has no idea what kind of baseless criticisms she's about to face
Tom4784
10-01-2018, 05:40 PM
Kate is a lady through and through Meghan is not lady material, I can't put my finger on it,but theres just something about her
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poppsywoppsy
10-01-2018, 05:48 PM
I think Anne's remarks are not racist but a reference to those courtiers in the Royal Household who can make a new member of the family feel like it is racism.
Can anyone recently remember the Marquis of Baths daughter in law who is of mixed race and her husbands mother mentioned spoiling the bloodline if they had children.
I think racism in the aristocracy is still happening and if it was difficult for Diana to cope with these people whilst being a member of the aristocracy, think how it might be for Meghan.
This is what I think Anne meant.
While the Royals accept Meghan with open arms this does not mean the courtiers, sycophants and toadies will and can cause her no end of hurts.
I do not care for this "What Meghan can bring to the Royals" claptrap. They do not need her, a divorced, older actress of mixed parentage, at all. She has a huge debt to Diana for paving the way as the Royals cannot have another scandal as they only hung on after Charles and Camilla nearly lost all respect for the Royal family and it is only the Queen, William and Kate holding it together.
I noticed that Meghan was using her acting and posing skills when interviewed for the engagement, far too cocky and confident. However, it was different at Christmas when she was quite nervous and she has to know she is a junior member, not the star.
I think this is the trouble Anne meant also.
jaxie
10-01-2018, 05:51 PM
I agree with Niamh. It's a big change for the royals and that's going to irritate some of the Old Guard. First William marries a commoner, a very rich one but a commoner none the less, and then Harry brings home a mixed race actress! Those boys have done a great job of dragging the monarchy into the 21st Century. And I feel kind of protective of William and Harry. My Mum says she does too. She said she remembers those boys walking behind their mothers coffin and when she saw the handwritten note on the coffin that said "Mummy", she and so many women became silent and distant foster mothers. She's a sentimental old soul, my Mum.
I hear you mum there. I remember that too and feel more empathy towards William and Harry than other members of their family, not being a royalist and all.
I wonder if Meghan has been given any priority with visas, indefinite leave to remain, naturalisation...?
Don't get me started, I'll rant about the home office until the end of time!
chuff me dizzy
10-01-2018, 05:53 PM
I really pity that poor girl, she has no idea what kind of baseless criticisms she's about to face
You can dislike people for no particular reason its just a feeling you have
chuff me dizzy
10-01-2018, 05:55 PM
I agree with Niamh. It's a big change for the royals and that's going to irritate some of the Old Guard. First William marries a commoner, a very rich one but a commoner none the less, and then Harry brings home a mixed race actress! Those boys have done a great job of dragging the monarchy into the 21st Century. And I feel kind of protective of William and Harry. My Mum says she does too. She said she remembers those boys walking behind their mothers coffin and when she saw the handwritten note on the coffin that said "Mummy", she and so many women became silent and distant foster mothers. She's a sentimental old soul, my Mum.
Thats how I feel, I remember them both being born and Dianas funeral broke my heart watching them both, and its like a Mums instinct that Meghan is just not right for Harry
jaxie
10-01-2018, 06:00 PM
I think Anne's remarks are not racist but a reference to those courtiers in the Royal Household who can make a new member of the family feel like it is racism.
Can anyone recently remember the Marquis of Baths daughter in law who is of mixed race and her husbands mother mentioned spoiling the bloodline if they had children.
I think racism in the aristocracy is still happening and if it was difficult for Diana to cope with these people whilst being a member of the aristocracy, think how it might be for Meghan.
This is what I think Anne meant.
While the Royals accept Meghan with open arms this does not mean the courtiers, sycophants and toadies will and can cause her no end of hurts.
I do not care for this "What Meghan can bring to the Royals" claptrap. They do not need her, a divorced, older actress of mixed parentage, at all. She has a huge debt to Diana for paving the way as the Royals cannot have another scandal as they only hung on after Charles and Camilla nearly lost all respect for the Royal family and it is only the Queen, William and Kate holding it together.
I noticed that Meghan was using her acting and posing skills when interviewed for the engagement, far too cocky and confident. However, it was different at Christmas when she was quite nervous and she has to know she is a junior member, not the star.
I think this is the trouble Anne meant also.
I wonder if Meghan will be able to cope with being second to Kate. Over time it might rankle. Particularly if she is entering this life as a form of performance.
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 06:15 PM
You can dislike people for no particular reason its just a feeling you have
But you seem to have quite a few reasons.
Although I don't know what's meant by not a lady.
Parmy
10-01-2018, 06:26 PM
Why didn't she specify what she meant though :rolleyes: . She can't just make a sweeping statement as "Megan will be trouble" and not give a reason why :conf: . So I believe it's a Xenophobic thing as Megan is American , but the Royal family isn't 100% British but whatever .
She did give a reason...she said she had added all the facts up and thats how she feels about it...why do you have such a problem with anns views?
poppsywoppsy
10-01-2018, 07:21 PM
I wonder if Meghan will be able to cope with being second to Kate. Over time it might rankle. Particularly if she is entering this life as a form of performance.
I do think Harry had a crush on Kate and envied his brothers life with her.
I do wonder if Harry is being genuine in his feelings for Meghan as he could not have gone more against traditional Royal bride requirements, if he tried.
Divorced, Older, Actress, Mixed Race.
I do hope he is in love with Meghan and not wanting just to push the boundaries.
Then does Meghan want children, it will be an interesting mix of genes.
I honestly think all these maybes is what Anne was referring to.
Niamh.
10-01-2018, 07:25 PM
I do think Harry had a crush on Kate and envied his brothers life with her.
I do wonder if Harry is being genuine in his feelings for Meghan as he could not have gone more against traditional Royal bride requirements, if he tried.
Divorced, Older, Actress, Mixed Race.
I do hope he is in love with Meghan and not wanting just to push the boundaries.
Then does Meghan want children, it will be an interesting mix of genes.
I honestly think all these maybes is what Anne was referring to.How on Earth could you decide Harry has a crush on Kate, I'm genuinely curious how you came to that conclusion? [emoji23]
Harry always seemed the sort who wouldn't want to marry deeper into the royal family. And to be fair, wouldn't she really more of a modern princess anyway? She's an American actress from LA... so she is going to be all sorts of tech savvy and know all about keeping a brand, especially if her face is tied to any organizations. Isn't that really what a defunct royal family is in 2018, anyway? A brand?
poppsywoppsy
10-01-2018, 07:36 PM
They were always together, laughing and enjoying each other's company when William was doing his duties elsewhere.
They obviously got on very well and Kate's family life was something William craved and Harry too.
I am not saying there was anything more but Harry always mooned after Kate, we saw it frequently and spoke about it.
Meghan doesn't look a million miles unlike Kate either. That's how on earth I could say it.
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 07:45 PM
I do wonder if Harry is being genuine in his feelings for Meghan as he could not have gone more against traditional Royal bride requirements, if he tried.
Really? He could have done a lot more if rebellion was on his mind.
Rich, charitable, famous. She's not all that different.
And everyone making a fuss over this apparent age gap. It's less than three years ffs.
Marsh.
10-01-2018, 07:48 PM
Harry always seemed the sort who wouldn't want to marry deeper into the royal family. And to be fair, wouldn't she really more of a modern princess anyway? She's an American actress from LA... so she is going to be all sorts of tech savvy and know all about keeping a brand, especially if her face is tied to any organizations. Isn't that really what a defunct royal family is in 2018, anyway? A brand?
Exactly. They're function is merely a reminder of a once upon a time tradition that serve very little purpose in the modern world.
They're basically English Kardashians. :joker:
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GreenIce
10-01-2018, 08:16 PM
Then does Meghan want children, it will be an interesting mix of genes.
Kate and William already have an interesting mix of genes. As I commented earlier, Meghan could be a sister of Pippa Middleton. George and Charlotte have brown eyes, the blue eyes have gone from the infant heirs to the throne. It's interesting how the tabloids keep pushing how much Charlotte looks like the Queen, but she doesn't, she looks like Carole Middleton.
GreenIce
10-01-2018, 08:21 PM
Meghan and Pippa.
http://www.elleuk.com/life-and-culture/culture/news/g31364/meghan-markle-pippa-middleton-prince-harry-lookalike/?slide=1
Niamh.
10-01-2018, 08:49 PM
Meghan is better looking though
GiRTh
10-01-2018, 08:57 PM
What can Ann possibly know about Megans 'attitude'. What an odd thing to say.
Maybe Ann was thinking about how Meghan is going to fit in to royal life, and is she up to it. Both Diana and Fergie were used to being around the royals since they were young; Diana's father had been the Queens equerry and Fergie's father was Charles' polo manager. Yet they both spoke of the coldness and restrictions put upon them by the stuffy 'men in the grey suits' who put added strains on their marriages.
I doubt Meghan knows how the royal show really works and who really runs that show - not the Queen or Charles etc but those same stuffy advisers and I doubt they are much different these days. How is an young woman used to independence and a successful career of her own going to fit in with such a structured and stifling atmosphere? Diana and Fergie couldn't manage it. They were both free spirits in their own individual ways. They liked the spotlight and in the royal family that doesn't go down well at all. I sense that Megan likes the spotlight too and could be a bit too pushy for their liking.
Kate had about 10 years of dating William to learn the ropes and be sure she could cope with it all. She also had no job of her own and seems to be more retiring and not the type to push herself forward.
So I don't know - Meghan just doesn't seem to me to be ideal, quiet, obedient royal wife material, and in that family you have to be. Otherwise they can eat you up and spit you out.
GreenIce
10-01-2018, 10:25 PM
Well it seems the "trouble" has already started. Meghan's half-sister in the paper today saying "If you can spend $75,000 on a dress, you can spend $75,000 on your dad". The father is cash-strapped it seems.
Well it seems the "trouble" has already started. Meghan's half-sister in the paper today saying "If you can spend $75,000 on a dress, you can spend $75,000 on your dad". The father is cash-strapped it seems.
Oh dear. The royals have been free of the 'sensationalised' headlines for quite a few years. It will all begin again now - the last thing the 'Firm' want.
Cherie
10-01-2018, 11:09 PM
I took background to mean acting career, not sure what her attitude is
I never thought of Ann as a Royalist. :hehe:
Ann, my dear
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Robodog
10-01-2018, 11:35 PM
Lots of people feel the same way, something's not quite settled and they can;t quite put their finger on it.
Watching Harry's body language around her: he is almost a bit edgy, unrelaxed.
Certainly not natural and easy like William and Kate are with each other.
Hmmm
Time will tell
Tom4784
10-01-2018, 11:42 PM
When it comes to the Royals, people seem to like to present their internal fan fiction as fact.
Harry fancies Kate because they were laughing in a video or photo? Meghan made the fatal mistake of holding onto Harry with two hands so this signifies that she isn't a lady suited to the Royal Family? 'Oh, she's an actress, she's obviously acting at all times.'
Honestly, it's ****ing BIZARRE.
GoldHeart
11-01-2018, 12:00 AM
When it comes to the Royals, people seem to like to present their internal fan fiction as fact.
Harry fancies Kate because they were laughing in a video or photo? Meghan made the fatal mistake of holding onto Harry with two hands so this signifies that she isn't a lady suited to the Royal Family? 'Oh, she's an actress, she's obviously acting at all times.'
Honestly, it's ****ing BIZARRE.
Thankyou :clap1:
I'm not even a Royal fan but I hate the double standards, it's ok for Prince Charles to marry his mistress? . But people doubt Meghan because she's previously been married FGS ! :bored: .
poppsywoppsy
11-01-2018, 01:25 AM
When it comes to the Royals, people seem to like to present their internal fan fiction as fact.
Harry fancies Kate because they were laughing in a video or photo? Meghan made the fatal mistake of holding onto Harry with two hands so this signifies that she isn't a lady suited to the Royal Family? 'Oh, she's an actress, she's obviously acting at all times.'
Honestly, it's ****ing BIZARRE.
No, we watched Harry over the years moon after Kate.
it wasn't a video or just a photo at all. It was many times when they attended functions, on the balcony at Buckingham Palace and at sports venues.
I am too old to be a fan of anybody so please could you not downplay what posters write for your own agendas. Thank you.
Marsh.
11-01-2018, 01:27 AM
No, we watched Harry over the years moon after Kate.
it wasn't a video or just a photo at all. It was many times when they attended functions, on the balcony at Buckingham Palace and at sports venues.
I am too old to be a fan of anybody so please could you not downplay what posters write for your own agendas. Thank you.
You're too old to be pretending to know someone from a few pap shots. :umm2:
Tom4784
11-01-2018, 01:29 AM
No, we watched Harry over the years moon after Kate.
it wasn't a video or just a photo at all. It was many times when they attended functions, on the balcony at Buckingham Palace and at sports venues.
I am too old to be a fan of anybody so please could you not downplay what posters write for your own agendas. Thank you.
That's you placing your own narrative over what is essentially paparazzi footage though, you don't know them, none of us do so why present what is essentially a baseless theory as fact?
Like I said, fan fiction.
poppsywoppsy
11-01-2018, 01:30 AM
Where have I said I know them?
It is my opinion and I stand by it.
Yours is your opinion too, we disagree and it is called democracy.
Marsh.
11-01-2018, 01:31 AM
Where have I said I know them?
It is my opinion and I stand by it.
Well, presuming to know their feelings is presuming to know them.
You're old enough to understand that basic concept.
poppsywoppsy
11-01-2018, 01:39 AM
Well, presuming to know their feelings is presuming to know them.
You're old enough to understand that basic concept.
Why am I old enough? I have an opinion on seeing them so many times enjoying each other's company. So therefore is it too hard to understand that Harry might have had a crush?
My teenage daughter thinks so too.
Marsh.
11-01-2018, 01:43 AM
Why am I old enough? I have an opinion on seeing them so many times enjoying each other's company. So therefore is it too hard to understand that Harry might have had a crush?
My teenage daughter thinks so too.
From a picture.... of people you don't know.
Your teenage daughter thinks so??? Well why didn't you say that to begin with???
I'm convinced now. :)
poppsywoppsy
11-01-2018, 01:50 AM
From a picture.... of people you don't know.
Your teenage daughter thinks so??? Well why didn't you say that to begin with???
I'm convinced now. :)
That's absolutely terrific, so pleased you agree.
Goodnight xx
https://www.popsugar.co.uk/celebrity/Duchess-Cambridge-Prince-Harry-Cutest--Law-Moments-Ever-38209951
Marsh.
11-01-2018, 02:02 AM
That's absolutely terrific, so pleased you agree.
Goodnight xx
https://www.popsugar.co.uk/celebrity/Duchess-Cambridge-Prince-Harry-Cutest--Law-Moments-Ever-38209951
Pop sugar?
Here was me thinking you were a grown woman. :/
_Tom_
11-01-2018, 05:57 AM
An eye roll moment.
Allure
11-01-2018, 11:52 PM
That's absolutely terrific, so pleased you agree.
Goodnight xx
https://www.popsugar.co.uk/celebrity/Duchess-Cambridge-Prince-Harry-Cutest--Law-Moments-Ever-38209951
Just come across as close friends in those photographs, or brother-in-law that gets on well with his sister-in-law.
As for what Ann said, she wasn't talking about the fact Meghan is divorced or 3 years older than Harry because Rachel mentioned those facts and Ann said "yes, those too".
The newspapers are reporting it as Ann branded as a racist dinosaur.
Background and attitude, it could be perceived as code for race and/or could mean other things.
Ambigious, so no way of knowing for sure what she means.
rusticgal
12-01-2018, 12:55 AM
Maybe Ann was thinking about how Meghan is going to fit in to royal life, and is she up to it. Both Diana and Fergie were used to being around the royals since they were young; Diana's father had been the Queens equerry and Fergie's father was Charles' polo manager. Yet they both spoke of the coldness and restrictions put upon them by the stuffy 'men in the grey suits' who put added strains on their marriages.
I doubt Meghan knows how the royal show really works and who really runs that show - not the Queen or Charles etc but those same stuffy advisers and I doubt they are much different these days. How is an young woman used to independence and a successful career of her own going to fit in with such a structured and stifling atmosphere? Diana and Fergie couldn't manage it. They were both free spirits in their own individual ways. They liked the spotlight and in the royal family that doesn't go down well at all. I sense that Megan likes the spotlight too and could be a bit too pushy for their liking.
Kate had about 10 years of dating William to learn the ropes and be sure she could cope with it all. She also had no job of her own and seems to be more retiring and not the type to push herself forward.
So I don't know - Meghan just doesn't seem to me to be ideal, quiet, obedient royal wife material, and in that family you have to be. Otherwise they can eat you up and spit you out.
Great post Jet...think you have hit the nail on the head.
chuff me dizzy
12-01-2018, 09:58 AM
Where have I said I know them?
It is my opinion and I stand by it.
Yours is your opinion too, we disagree and it is called democracy.
Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's, down be beaten down about it,and I agree with you Meghan is not what Harry or the Royal family need,and I totally agree with Ann,she will be trouble you can just sense it, it will all end in tears for Harry
chuff me dizzy
12-01-2018, 10:02 AM
Maybe Ann was thinking about how Meghan is going to fit in to royal life, and is she up to it. Both Diana and Fergie were used to being around the royals since they were young; Diana's father had been the Queens equerry and Fergie's father was Charles' polo manager. Yet they both spoke of the coldness and restrictions put upon them by the stuffy 'men in the grey suits' who put added strains on their marriages.
I doubt Meghan knows how the royal show really works and who really runs that show - not the Queen or Charles etc but those same stuffy advisers and I doubt they are much different these days. How is an young woman used to independence and a successful career of her own going to fit in with such a structured and stifling atmosphere? Diana and Fergie couldn't manage it. They were both free spirits in their own individual ways. They liked the spotlight and in the royal family that doesn't go down well at all. I sense that Megan likes the spotlight too and could be a bit too pushy for their liking.
Kate had about 10 years of dating William to learn the ropes and be sure she could cope with it all. She also had no job of her own and seems to be more retiring and not the type to push herself forward.
So I don't know - Meghan just doesn't seem to me to be ideal, quiet, obedient royal wife material, and in that family you have to be. Otherwise they can eat you up and spit you out.
I agree with all you say apart from the part Ive highlighted, I think she will push herself forward too much,she will take the title Princess Pushy off Princess Michael ,the way she over spoke and run the interview at their engagement while holding on to Harry with both hands was a turning point for me, i saw then there just something not right with her
GoldHeart
12-01-2018, 10:46 AM
I agree with all you say apart from the part Ive highlighted, I think she will push herself forward too much,she will take the title Princess Pushy off Princess Michael ,the way she over spoke and run the interview at their engagement while holding on to Harry with both hands was a turning point for me, i saw then there just something not right with her
I'm not sure tbh Chuff .
But I did notice that she was more outspoken in the interview ,but she's use to the limelight . I don't think I've watched any of her acting roles,so I don't really know .
And she touched Harry alot PDA . And on their royal visit back in December in Nottingham she was spending alot of time with the crowds talking, which again is a bit different .
I guess time will tell , I'm not a big royal fan . And it does annoy me when anything with the royal family takes centre stage in news programmes :facepalm: .
Her life will never be the same again that's for sure, and even though she was already in the spot light , being apart of the royals is on another level and is a huge responsibility.
Even Kate got cold feet when she met William at University , didn't they break up at one point?. I think she found it overwhelming . But clearly she's fitting in now . But I wish people would stop going on about what hat or dress she's wearing :sleep: .
But anyway we'll see what happens with Megan . All the best to them .
chuff me dizzy
12-01-2018, 10:49 AM
I'm not sure tbh Chuff .
But I did notice that she was more outspoken in the interview ,but she's use to the limelight . I don't think I've watched any of her acting roles,so I don't really know .
And she touched Harry alot PDA . And on their royal visit back in December in Nottingham she was spending alot of time with the crowds talking, which again is a bit different .
I guess time will tell , I'm not a big royal fan . And it does annoy me when anything with the royal family takes centre stage in news programmes :facepalm: .
Her life will never be the same again that's for sure, and even though she was already in the spot light , being apart of the royals is on another level and is a huge responsibility.
Even Kate got cold feet when she met William at University , didn't they break up at one point?. I think she found it overwhelming . But clearly she's fitting in now . But I wish people would stop going on about what hat or dress she's wearing :sleep: .
But anyway we'll see what happens with Megan . All the best to them .
I love Dianas boys ,HATE Charles and his bitch ......... I knew nothing about Meghan until she got with Harry, but its maybe a mother gut feeling I've got about her,but she just rubs me up the wrong way and i fear trouble ahead with her
GoldHeart
12-01-2018, 11:02 AM
I love Dianas boys ,HATE Charles and his bitch ......... I knew nothing about Meghan until she got with Harry, but its maybe a mother gut feeling I've got about her,but she just rubs me up the wrong way and i fear trouble ahead with her
What I hated back in the Charles & Diana days was the double standards :bored: .
Charles cheated on Diana on their bloody wedding night! ,he even got caught saying vulgar things he wants regarding Camilla and her feminine hygiene item :yuk: .
Diana was treated badly, and she got snapped with lovers /close friends . While Charles was let off lightly :fist: .
So yeah I'm not a fan of Charles either, and William seems mature and decent.
Harry was the wild child and honestly I was surprised when his engagement was announced, I didn't expect mr bachelor to settle down .
He seems a bit guarded a times especially when Alison tried to interview him in Nottingham:joker:, or was he just scared of Alison's bubbly loud personality. He ran away practically :laugh2:.
chuff me dizzy
12-01-2018, 11:06 AM
What I hated back in the Charles & Diana days was the double standards :bored: .
Charles cheated on Diana on their bloody wedding night! ,he even got caught saying vulgar things he wants regarding Camilla and her feminine hygiene item :yuk: .
Diana was treated badly, and she got snapped with lovers /close friends . While Charles was let off lightly :fist: .
So yeah I'm not a fan of Charles either, and William seems mature and decent.
Harry was the wild child and honestly I was surprised when his engagement was announced, I didn't expect mr bachelor to settle down .
He seems a bit guarded a times especially when Alison tried to interview him in Nottingham:joker:, or was he just scared of Alison's bubbly loud personality. He ran away practically :laugh2:.
Diana was used by the Royal family ,Charles slept with horse face the night before the wedding in the royal train parked in a siding ,no doubt he would have had to ask the Queen for permission ... Yes Wills and Harry are total opposites,but both lovely boys ( men) who both take after their Mother
GoldHeart
12-01-2018, 11:19 AM
Diana was used by the Royal family ,Charles slept with horse face the night before the wedding in the royal train parked in a siding ,no doubt he would have had to ask the Queen for permission ... Yes Wills and Harry are total opposites,but both lovely boys ( men) who both take after their Mother
I honestly think Diana was out of her depth , she was like a lamb to the slaughter :facepalm: .
It's shocking how badly the royal family used her considering you can't get anymore English Rose than Diana , she seemed to care and had warmth , the fact they called her the people's princess said it all .
But I think in the end she had to be honest about her marriage to Charles being an utter shambles , she outed him as a cheater saying there was 3 people in their marriage . Poor woman had alot of crap to deal with and knowing Ugly Camilla is having it off with her husband.
chuff me dizzy
12-01-2018, 11:21 AM
I honestly think Diana was out of her depth , she was like a lamb to the slaughter :facepalm: .
It's shocking how badly the royal family used her considering you can't get anymore English Rose than Diana , she seemed to care and had warmth , the fact they called her the people's princess said it all .
But I think in the end she had to be honest about her marriage to Charles being an utter shambles , she outed him as a cheater saying there was 3 people in their marriage . Poor woman had alot of crap to deal with and knowing Ugly Camilla is having it off with her husband.
I still say the Royals hand a massive hand in her death
GoldHeart
12-01-2018, 11:28 AM
I still say the Royals hand a massive hand in her death
That's why I'd never want to be married to a prince or part of the Royal Family:nono: .
Full of corrupted secrets the lot of them !!! :shocked:.
Diana's death is suspicious AF and it took too long for an ambulance to get to her, paparazzi were only bothered about taking photos of her while she's dying in the car :suspect: . There's even conspiracies regarding her death and her last days .
chuff me dizzy
12-01-2018, 11:30 AM
That's why I'd never want to be married to a prince or part of the Royal Family:nono: .
Full of corrupted secrets the lot of them !!! :shocked:.
Diana's death is suspicious AF and it took too long for an ambulance to get to her, paparazzi were only bothered about taking photos of her while she's dying in the car :suspect: . There's even conspiracies regarding her death and her last days .
Drove past several hospitals before they stopped at one and the damage to the car was far more than hitting a pillar, the list is endless
Oliver_W
12-01-2018, 11:41 AM
Did y'all know Diana was alive before she died?
https://pics.me.me/diana-was-still-alive-hours-before-she-died-a-series-19607165.png
GoldHeart
12-01-2018, 11:51 AM
Drove past several hospitals before they stopped at one and the damage to the car was far more than hitting a pillar, the list is endless
Mohammed Al Fayed isn't shy about his theory that both his Son and Princess Diana were murdered . And the car looked more like a train crashed into it :shocked: .
It's so shocking, and 20 years later it doesn't change things ,and the whole thing is still suspicious and disgusting . And leaves you uneasy .
Niamh.
12-01-2018, 11:53 AM
Did y'all know Diana was alive before she died?
https://pics.me.me/diana-was-still-alive-hours-before-she-died-a-series-19607165.png
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GoldHeart
12-01-2018, 11:58 AM
Did y'all know Diana was alive before she died?
https://pics.me.me/diana-was-still-alive-hours-before-she-died-a-series-19607165.png
Yes I know and all the paparazzi did was keep taking photos how unbelievable is that there's just no words !!! Utterly callous and barbaric :shocked: .
Nobody helped and when they did eventually get emercency services they deliberately stalled and went at a snail's pace to get her to hospital. She had no chance of survival sadly after all that valuable time wasted .
chuff me dizzy
12-01-2018, 12:07 PM
Mohammed Al Fayed isn't shy about his theory that both his Son and Princess Diana were murdered . And the car looked more like a train crashed into it :shocked: .
It's so shocking, and 20 years later it doesn't change things ,and the whole thing is still suspicious and disgusting . And leaves you uneasy .
Diana predicted the brakes would be cut on her car
GreenIce
12-01-2018, 02:34 PM
and William seems mature and decent. Harry was the wild child and honestly I was surprised when his engagement was announced, I didn't expect mr bachelor to settle down .
William is The Queen and Harry is Princess Margaret.
Vicky.
12-01-2018, 02:42 PM
I agree with Niamh. It's a big change for the royals and that's going to irritate some of the Old Guard. First William marries a commoner, a very rich one but a commoner none the less, and then Harry brings home a mixed race actress! Those boys have done a great job of dragging the monarchy into the 21st Century. And I feel kind of protective of William and Harry. My Mum says she does too. She said she remembers those boys walking behind their mothers coffin and when she saw the handwritten note on the coffin that said "Mummy", she and so many women became silent and distant foster mothers. She's a sentimental old soul, my Mum.
Indeed. The Royals dragged into the 21st century..who would have thought it :D
I do wonder about the conversations behind closed doors with the Princes and the Queen. I kept trying to imagine it all when Harry was pictured playing strip billiards. Getting a bollocking of granny :laugh:
So many people criticize Megan, for seemingly no reason.
There does seem to be a lot of pre-judgement with Megan. If i were a monarchist, which I certainly am not, I would be concerned if Harry was next in line to the throne after William, but he is not anymore, he is way down the pecking order. So if Harry is happy and is marrying for love, who cares.
I agree with all you say apart from the part Ive highlighted, I think she will push herself forward too much,she will take the title Princess Pushy off Princess Michael ,the way she over spoke and run the interview at their engagement while holding on to Harry with both hands was a turning point for me, i saw then there just something not right with her
I was referring to Kate not pushing herself forward Chuff, not Meghan, who I think will be too pushy for the 'Firm'.
Niamh.
12-01-2018, 02:56 PM
There does seem to be a lot of pre-judgement with Megan. If i were a monarchist, which I certainly am not, I would be concerned if Harry was next in line to the throne after William, but he is not anymore, he is way down the pecking order. So if Harry is happy and is marrying for love, who cares.
Exactly, there's very little chance he will ever be King being realistic
Marsh.
12-01-2018, 02:59 PM
Even if he was to be King, I don't see the problem.
It's not as though Prince Phillip is a bloody saint.
chuff me dizzy
12-01-2018, 02:59 PM
I was referring to Kate not pushing herself forward Chuff, not Meghan, who I think will be too pushy for the 'Firm'.
Yes Kate has class she steps back,but Meghan wont be like that IMO but time will tell
Marsh.
12-01-2018, 03:00 PM
I was referring to Kate not pushing herself forward Chuff, not Meghan, who I think will be too pushy for the 'Firm'.
I don't think she'll be pushy at all.
She just has more self confidence than Kate does, who is more reserved.
Doesn't seem anything more than a British/American difference to me. We are more reserved than our cousins across the pond.
Niamh.
12-01-2018, 03:06 PM
I do find all this royal stuff so odd though and not real life stuff :laugh: Good luck to poor Meghan, I couldn't think of anything worse than marrying into such a backward, sexist, class-ist group
Vicky.
12-01-2018, 04:53 PM
Did y'all know Diana was alive before she died?
https://pics.me.me/diana-was-still-alive-hours-before-she-died-a-series-19607165.png
What an odd story :laugh:
Yes I know and all the paparazzi did was keep taking photos how unbelievable is that there's just no words !!! Utterly callous and barbaric :shocked: .
Nobody helped and when they did eventually get emercency services they deliberately stalled and went at a snail's pace to get her to hospital. She had no chance of survival sadly after all that valuable time wasted .
I have seen a photo of her critically ill after the crash...can;t believe they were still taking photos even then mind
I feel there is something a bit odd about how long it took them to get Diana to the hospital..have always thought that
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