Doesn't like to see other people touching

[jaxie]

What is clear to me about Ann is that she is not comfortable viewing other peoples displays of affection and physical touching and sexualised play. This isn't' specific to men with men, it's any people. CBB is a television show but at the moment Ann is living inside it and she is fully allowed to feel this way and to be uncomfortable. That isn't a crime, she isn't hurting anyone else.

My own grandmother was the same, she didn't like you draping all over each other in her presence. She wouldn't have wanted to watch me kissing anyone or lap sitting or anything like that. I think this discomfort stemmed from her own life and being raised at a time when people didn't display public affection.

In 2018 we have almost shifted to the other end of the spectrum when you look at shows like Geordie Shore where people have a lot of casual sex on tv. Even BB and CBB have been all about the showmances, and people jumping into bed together.

In some ways Ann's disapproval comes from a different time when moral standards were different but it does make you wonder if society has gone a bit far in the wrong direction with this. Maybe to a degree she has a point. We have almost become immune to the degree of sexuality we are viewing on TV.

If I'm honest I watch BB for the drams and I enjoy seeing the social experiment side to it which has had a wonderful reboot in this years show. But I can't say I really enjoy seeing some Towie/Geordie bird with her tits out or Wayne Sleep's todger. I'd be mortified if I was watching one of my kids behaving in the same way. I'm not even a prude but it isn't what keeps me interested and it's not what I watch for so I can kind of understand Ann to a point not wanting to watch all that stuff, particularly live and right in front of her.

I think a lot of the people criticising her are on the wrong track and a lot of people are influenced by what they've read about her long past voting inclinations in her job as an MP. Even there some of the influence is without the context of her reasoning behind how she voted at the time. She doesn't have an ism or a phobia, she is old fashioned and the product of a different generation.

[chuff me dizzy]

What is clear to me about Ann is that she is not comfortable viewing other peoples displays of affection and physical touching and sexualised play. This isn't' specific to men with men, it's any people. CBB is a television show but at the moment Ann is living inside it and she is fully allowed to feel this way and to be uncomfortable. That isn't a crime, she isn't hurting anyone else.

My own grandmother was the same, she didn't like you draping all over each other in her presence. She wouldn't have wanted to watch me kissing anyone or lap sitting or anything like that. I think this discomfort stemmed from her own life and being raised at a time when people didn't display public affection.

In 2018 we have almost shifted to the other end of the spectrum when you look at shows like Geordie Shore where people have a lot of casual sex on tv. Even BB and CBB have been all about the showmances, and people jumping into bed together.

In some ways Ann's disapproval comes from a different time when moral standards were different but it does make you wonder if society has gone a bit far in the wrong direction with this. Maybe to a degree she has a point. We have almost become immune to the degree of sexuality we are viewing on TV.

If I'm honest I watch BB for the drams and I enjoy seeing the social experiment side to it which has had a wonderful reboot in this years show. But I can't say I really enjoy seeing some Towie/Geordie bird with her tits out or Wayne Sleep's todger. I'd be mortified if I was watching one of my kids behaving in the same way. I'm not even a prude but it isn't what keeps me interested and it's not what I watch for so I can kind of understand Ann to a point not wanting to watch all that stuff, particularly live and right in front of her.

I think a lot of the people criticising her are on the wrong track and a lot of people are influenced by what they've read about her long past voting inclinations in her job as an MP. Even there some of the influence is without the context of her reasoning behind how she voted at the time. She doesn't have an ism or a phobia, she is old fashioned and the product of a different generation.

My grown up children wouldn't dare drape all over a partner kissing and being vaguely sexual in front of me, I would soon put a stop to it

[-Sue-]

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

[Christmas Dynasnow]

how far do the two wankers shane and andrew want to go?

Do they think sucking each others dicks in the living area is wrong - im sure they do

how about snogging - in sure they would agree that isnt good either

for them to somehow think that EVERYONE in the house sings off the same hymn sheet as they do is arrogance beyond belief

Their immature sniggering when Ann was nominating was nauseating - both need to get a proper job, a proper relationship and grow up and stop being teenagers


pathetic

[Christmas Dynasnow]

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

yes its the same as rolling around pretending to trib like a couple of mma lesbians on XVideos

:facepalm:

[chuff me dizzy]

how far do the two wankers shane and andrew want to go?

Do they think sucking each others dicks in the living area is wrong - im sure they do

how about snogging - in sure they would agree that isnt good either

for them to somehow think that EVERYONE in the house sings off the same hymn sheet as they do is arrogance beyond belief

Their immature sniggering when Ann was nominating was nauseating - both need to get a proper job, a proper relationship and grow up and stop being teenagers


pathetic

:clap1: By what Ann said in her nom theres been a lot of filth talk going on too ,and don't forget the little trip to the loo where Berty Big Bollox told Barbie not to get lipstick on him !!

[Kazanne]

What is clear to me about Ann is that she is not comfortable viewing other peoples displays of affection and physical touching and sexualised play. This isn't' specific to men with men, it's any people. CBB is a television show but at the moment Ann is living inside it and she is fully allowed to feel this way and to be uncomfortable. That isn't a crime, she isn't hurting anyone else.

My own grandmother was the same, she didn't like you draping all over each other in her presence. She wouldn't have wanted to watch me kissing anyone or lap sitting or anything like that. I think this discomfort stemmed from her own life and being raised at a time when people didn't display public affection.

In 2018 we have almost shifted to the other end of the spectrum when you look at shows like Geordie Shore where people have a lot of casual sex on tv. Even BB and CBB have been all about the showmances, and people jumping into bed together.

In some ways Ann's disapproval comes from a different time when moral standards were different but it does make you wonder if society has gone a bit far in the wrong direction with this. Maybe to a degree she has a point. We have almost become immune to the degree of sexuality we are viewing on TV.

If I'm honest I watch BB for the drams and I enjoy seeing the social experiment side to it which has had a wonderful reboot in this years show. But I can't say I really enjoy seeing some Towie/Geordie bird with her tits out or Wayne Sleep's todger. I'd be mortified if I was watching one of my kids behaving in the same way. I'm not even a prude but it isn't what keeps me interested and it's not what I watch for so I can kind of understand Ann to a point not wanting to watch all that stuff, particularly live and right in front of her.

I think a lot of the people criticising her are on the wrong track and a lot of people are influenced by what they've read about her long past voting inclinations in her job as an MP. Even there some of the influence is without the context of her reasoning behind how she voted at the time. She doesn't have an ism or a phobia, she is old fashioned and the product of a different generation.

I know if my nan or granddad saw some of the things they show on TV now ,they would be spinning in their graves, my mom was brought up quite strictly , she wasn't allowed a bath when she had a period as it was deemed unclean , two people of the same sex kissing was never seen and would have been frowned upon , she could not wear short skirts, show any desire for pop stars etc,they were lovely people apparently,she loved them they were kind and looked after her well,but very strict especially sex wise,lots of people were like that then,Ann is no different infact she is probably a bit more liberal,but to try and label her with some of the names on here is stupid,she is just of a different generation, not everyone is comfy with watching other people fawn about over each other, she has never been nasty to anyone in the house,she has her opinions airs them and that's it,if they get butt hurt by it that their problem.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Ann is a hypocrite. So kissing and draping yourself over someone is fine. But a bit if leg wrestling is lewd behaviour? :crazy:

[chuff me dizzy]

yes its the same as rolling around pretending to trib like a couple of mma lesbians on XVideos

:facepalm:

At noms both Andrew and his bitch were doing hand gestures which looked to me like they were faking a sexual position while "innocently wrestling " did you think same ?

[Kazanne]

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

She HAS shown distain at Ashely and Ginuwine though,so it's no different for them.

[chuff me dizzy]

I know if my nan or granddad saw some of the things they show on TV now ,they would be spinning in their graves, my mom was brought up quite strictly , she wasn't allowed a bath when she had a period as it was deemed unclean , two people of the same sex kissing was never seen and would have been frowned upon , she could not wear short skirts, show any desire for pop stars etc,they were lovely people apparently,she loved them they were kind and looked after her well,but very strict especially sex wise,lots of people were like that then,Ann is no different infact she is probably a bit more liberal,but to try and label her with some of the names on here is stupid,she is just of a different generation, not everyone is comfy with watching other people fawn about over each other, she has never been nasty to anyone in the house,she has her opinions airs them and that's it,if they get butt hurt by it that their problem.

This is how i was brought up too and by God its a better way that how a lot of people are dragged up now

[Kazanne]

Ann is a hypocrite. So kissing and draping yourself over someone is fine. But a bit if leg wrestling is lewd behaviour? :crazy:

No she is not ,she has also shown distain for Ashley and G too and some of the dirty talk

[chuff me dizzy]

No she is not ,she has also shown distain for Ashley and G too and some of the dirty talk

All true

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Ann should have nominated Ashley and G for the small reason. They were kissing and cuddling.

[Ellen]

She HAS shown distain at Ashely and Ginuwine though,so it's no different for them.

Yes she did, she spoke to Ashley about it as well.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Yes she did, she spoke to Ashley about it as well.

But she didn't nominate them for it :suspect:

[Ellen]

But she didn't nominate them for it :suspect:

Well i dont remember them doing a lewd sex act or did they :conf:

[Kazanne]

Ann should have nominated Ashley and G for the small reason. They were kissing and cuddling.

Ann is entitalled to nominate who she likes and for whatever reason,funny Ann has gone from your fave and a 'great' housemate to being such a terrible person,and all because she has shown Andrew up for the creepy foul mouthed thug he is , and all the while Ann saying Andrew is KIND !!!! lol, how wrong is she? never mind not long to put up with the creep now.

[Kazanne]

But she didn't nominate them for it :suspect:

Maybe she likes Ashley better:shrug: her choice

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Well i dont remember them doing a lewd sex act or did they :conf:

A bit of leg wrestling is not a lewd act.

[Ellen]

A bit of leg wrestling is not a lewd act.

I dont know if we saw all that they were up too tbh but it was Ann's opinion it was so she can only say how she felt about it.

[Kazanne]

I dont know if we saw all that they were up too tbh but it was Ann's opinion it was so she can only say how she felt about it.

She didn't like the dirty talk either.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I dont know if we saw all that they were up too tbh but it was Ann's opinion it was so she can only say how she felt about it.

People have done much worse in the past, but never got nominated for it. Remember Bb5? Some of the ladies used it go round topless.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Ashley and Elgin did not do that to wind Ann up and THAT is the difference

Shane J and Andrew think they are superior to Ann because their "views" are that of the perceived majority and being immature they think this allows them to hate on her.

Shane started the show as a wise head on young shoulders but sadly the veil slipped and he is a nasty bigot and woman hater like Andrew

[Kazanne]

People have done much worse in the past, but never got nominated for it. Remember Bb5? Some of the ladies used it go round topless.

This BB s supposed to have gone back to a social experiment,why is Ann not allowed to nominate them when all the other girls did

[Ellen]

People have done much worse in the past, but never got nominated for it. Remember Bb5? Some of the ladies used it go round topless.

Yes i remember but dont see why Ann's nomination should be held up to past nominations. It is her reasoning at the time.

[jaxie]

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

She did though, several times she left the room and there was a discussion about it.

[jaxie]

Ann should have nominated Ashley and G for the small reason. They were kissing and cuddling.

She wanted to nominate Ashley when she was immune. :shrug:

I think you are clutching a bit because your favourites are involved. They can nominate for whatever reason they like and if Ann found their behaviour uncomfortable she is fully entitled to nom them.

[Kazanne]

She wanted to nominate Ashley when she was immune. :shrug:

Yes,good point Jaxie,spot on :wavey:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Yes i remember but dont see why Ann's nomination should be held up to past nominations. It is her reasoning at the time.

Because I think it's not a valid reason. She could have said she has nothing in common with them and they rarely speak. But she's basically saying that touchingly each other is wrong.

[-Sue-]

She wanted to nominate Ashley when she was immune. :shrug:

I think you are clutching a bit because your favourites are involved. They can nominate for whatever reason they like and if Ann found their behaviour uncomfortable she is fully entitled to nom them.

Amanda is my fave :D I like shane sure but it's also my opinion :D

Ann could have nominated Ashley but did she? lol nope...

[Ellen]

Because I think it's not a valid reason. She could have said she has nothing in common with them and they rarely speak. But she's basically saying that touchingly each other is wrong.

Well if snoring is a valid reason then so is Ann's. I dont believe she said that touching each other was wrong, she said they were performing what she believed to be a lewd act.
She has seen them cuddle up, snuggle under the blanket outside and never once said anything so i think there was more to it in Ann's opinion.

[joeysteele]

My Grandmother,both of them,were totally different to Ann.
They loved to see younger people enjoying themselves and having fun.

Even into her 80s my Mum's Mother loved family events and often sat nearer where the D J was.

Just before I was 5 I recall her saying to one of my cousins that my cousin was out of date,as my cousin hated Breathe by the Prodigy,which my Grandmother predicted would make number one in the charts.

Maybe we were very lucky to have such open and tolerant Grandparents, who believed life is short and for living, anyway you wanted to legally.

[-Sue-]

My Grandmother,both of them,were totally different to Ann.
They loved to see younger people enjoying themselves and having fun.

Even into her 80s my Mum's Mother loved family events and often sat nearer where the D J was.

Just before I was 5 I recall her saying to one of my cousins that my cousin was out of date,as my cousin hated Breathe by the Prodigy,which my Grandmother predicted would make number one in the charts.

Maybe we were very lucky to have such open and tolerant Grandparents, who believed life is short and for living, anyway you wanted to legally.

superb post thank you :wavey:

[Paula D]

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

How many times do you have to be told that she did object to Ashley and G??

Do you watch the show at all or just come on the forum to scream homophobe?

[Paula D]

Ann is a hypocrite. So kissing and draping yourself over someone is fine. But a bit if leg wrestling is lewd behaviour? :crazy:

More lies

[Ashsleigh]

I think Ann just needs to mind her own business.

[-Sue-]

How many times do you have to be told that she did object to Ashley and G??

Do you watch the show at all or just come on the forum to scream homophobe?
calm yourself I am neither blind nor a subject for you to rant at! and just for the record I have not screamed homophobe :shrug: if you must get mad at me for having an opinion that doesn't match yours at least please quote me correctly thanks

[Cherry Christmas]

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

she did, didn't G accuse her of racism in a round about way?

[chuff me dizzy]

How many times do you have to be told that she did object to Ashley and G??

Do you watch the show at all or just come on the forum to scream homophobe?

Yes she did

[joeysteele]

I think Ann just needs to mind her own business.

I like her but she has been allowed too much free reign.

She actually,I think,maybe thinks she is even running this series.
If this series were longer,that likely attitude would ruin the series.

As it is,it's ruined now with the most stupid thing of holding a triple eviction with only 4 housemates.
I kind of wish they had all just nominated 3 housemates and not 4.
Save people watching time and money.

[Ashsleigh]

I like her bit she has been allowed too much free reign.

She actually,I think,maybe thinks she is even running this series.
If this series were longer,that likely attitude would ruin the series.

As it is,it's ruined now with the most stupid thing of holding a triple eviction with only 4 housemates.
I kind of wish they had all just nominated 3 housemates and not 4.
Save people watching time and money.

She's definitely had quite a bit of an impact in there. I don't think it's right for anyone to have such a strong presence that they're limiting what anybody else can do or say. At that point you really just have to look at yourself and think about what you're doing wrong.

[-Sue-]

I do think if Ann had been kicked out weeks ago it would have been a whole different show her opinions/views do seem to have stopped a lot of banter/fun whatever you want to call it... not sure people stop out of respect/fear

but then if India was still there instead of Ann would we STILL be listening to 'misgendering/im a woman!' speeches on a twice daily basis

[jaxie]

Amanda is my fave :D I like shane sure but it's also my opinion :D

Ann could have nominated Ashley but did she? lol nope...

The reply you quoted was to Vanessa.

I like Amanda too, I think she has a chance of winning too, and Shane L is a nice guy. But I also think Ann is a great housemate and I don't like to see all the silly accusations about her. She's getting enough of that in the house from Andrew.

[jaxie]

She's definitely had quite a bit of an impact in there. I don't think it's right for anyone to have such a strong presence that they're limiting what anybody else can do or say. At that point you really just have to look at yourself and think about what you're doing wrong.

This is where you are missing the point of the social experiment. That Ann has an impact on the behaviour of others is part of what is fascinating. If we want to watch drunks throwing their tits about and such we can watch that any year. Or watch G Shore.

[-Sue-]

The reply you quoted was to Vanessa.

I like Amanda too, I think she has a chance of winning too, and Shane L is a nice guy. But I also think Ann is a great housemate and I don't like to see all the silly accusations about her. She's getting enough of that in the house from Andrew. oopsie sorry..

nice post about amanda though Ann is like my marmite some days what comes out of her mouth annoys me some days I agree

[chuff me dizzy]

This is where you are missing the point of the social experiment. That Ann has an impact on the behaviour of others is part of what is fascinating. If we want to watch drunks throwing their tits about and such we can watch that any year. Or watch G Shore.

:clap1:

[Ashsleigh]

This is where you are missing the point of the social experiment. That Ann has an impact on the behaviour of others is part of what is fascinating. If we want to watch drunks throwing their tits about and such we can watch that any year. Or watch G Shore.

Oh of course it's fascinating, I never said it wasn't. But I don't think I'm under any obligation to agree with the way she acts.

[reece(:]

Because she's never been touched herself? A trigger?

[Kazanne]

Some people are tactile others aren't it's not a phobia just the was we humans are.

[Robertocarlo]

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

Precisely. That's why I believe Anne to be not only a prude but also a homophobe as well. As a Gay man myself I am amazed at the level of support given to this bigoted woman in this group. Shows me that old hatreds against people like myself still simmer under the surface.

[Robertocarlo]

My Grandmother,both of them,were totally different to Ann.
They loved to see younger people enjoying themselves and having fun.

Even into her 80s my Mum's Mother loved family events and often sat nearer where the D J was.

Just before I was 5 I recall her saying to one of my cousins that my cousin was out of date,as my cousin hated Breathe by the Prodigy,which my Grandmother predicted would make number one in the charts.

Maybe we were very lucky to have such open and tolerant Grandparents, who believed life is short and for living, anyway you wanted to legally.


I came out as a Gay man in about 1975 when in my early 20s. My Gran was totally OK with it and she was born in the early 1900s. When I first went out with my now husband in 1978 and visited my Gran she was more than happy to let us sleep in the spare room together. She had no issues at all with us being Gay. Thus, the excuses being made about Ann's age as an excuse for her bigotry and homophobia really doesn't hold, sorry. She is what she is: a bigot and a homophobe!

[chuff me dizzy]

Precisely. That's why I believe Anne to be not only a prude but also a homophobe as well. As a Gay man myself I am amazed at the level of support given to this bigoted woman in this group. Shows me that old hatreds against people like myself still simmer under the surface.

Oh please .... Give it a chuffing rest :bored: Poor me poor me

[joeysteele]

I came out as a Gay man in about 1975 when in my early 20s. My Gran was totally OK with it and she was born in the early 1900s. When I first went out with my now husband in 1978 and visited my Gran she was more than happy to let us sleep in the spare room together. She had no issues at all with us being Gay. Thus, the excuses being made about Ann's age as an excuse for her bigotry and homophobia really doesn't hold, sorry. She is what she is: a bigot and a homophobe!



That's a lovely post to read.
Thanks for sharing it.

I am so glad you got a good experience when you needed to


You are right,it is wrong to tolerate bigotry and homophobia.
It sends the wrong signals to the bigot and homophobe,that their view has foundation to it.

Lovely post from you,I am only 25 but I know the 70s too was not the easiest times for the gay communities and as to rights.

[Kazanne]

I came out as a Gay man in about 1975 when in my early 20s. My Gran was totally OK with it and she was born in the early 1900s. When I first went out with my now husband in 1978 and visited my Gran she was more than happy to let us sleep in the spare room together. She had no issues at all with us being Gay. Thus, the excuses being made about Ann's age as an excuse for her bigotry and homophobia really doesn't hold, sorry. She is what she is: a bigot and a homophobe!

No excuses are being made and good for you your gran was so accepting but not everyones was,that is a fact , people have different views on things ,simple as,I do not see her as homophobic or a bigot just some one with very strict traditions and a strict upbringing, I know my grandparents believed in a man and woman being married and having a family even divorce was frowned upon then, a man and a woman 'fit' they were brought up in a different time and generation and because everything is so in our faces now and anything goes does not automatically make it right,some people seem to have a massive chip on their shoulders about what we should and shouldn't like,just let people be.

[Robertocarlo]

That's a lovely post to read.
Thanks for sharing it.

I am so glad you got a good experience when you needed to


You are right,it is wrong to tolerate bigotry and homophobia.
It sends the wrong signals to the bigot and homophobe,that their view has foundation to it.

Lovely post from you,I am only 25 but I know the 70s too was not the easiest times for the gay communities and as to rights.

Thank you very much too for your response which is heartening. I am though appalled at the level of tolerance given to Ann along with all the excuses about age etc. It's shameful. Good to know though that there are still younger people like yourself who are more accepting.

[Paula D]

Thank you very much too for your response which is heartening. I am though appalled at the level of tolerance given to Ann along with all the excuses about age etc. It's shameful. Good to know though that there are still younger people like yourself who are more accepting.

Seriously, you need to get over yourself.

That's about the 5th post now saying you're "appalled at the level of tolerance". Do you now see the irony in that???

How about if I said "I'm appalled at the level of tolerance for gay people"???

Tolerance works both ways.

[chuff me dizzy]

Seriously, you need to get over yourself.

That's about the 5th post now saying you're "appalled at the level of tolerance". Do you now see the irony in that???

How about if I said "I'm appalled at the level of tolerance for gay people"???

Tolerance works both ways.

:clap1: Poor Me ,Poor me ,we've all had struggles but we've got over them and don't think the world owes us and should bend to our demands ... seriously should get over themselves and stop the bloody bleating ,as you say he's got it in every bloody thread now

[Robertocarlo]

Seriously, you need to get over yourself.

That's about the 5th post now saying you're "appalled at the level of tolerance". Do you now see the irony in that???

How about if I said "I'm appalled at the level of tolerance for gay people"???

Tolerance works both ways.

I think it safe to say your post illustrates exactly what I have been trying to get across. If you believe that I am something to be 'tolerated' just because of my sexuality then I am truly sad for you.

[chuff me dizzy]

I think it safe to say your post illustrates exactly what I have been trying to get across. If you believe that I am something to be 'tolerated' just because of my sexuality then I am truly sad for you.

And I feel sad for you if you think the world owes you just because your gay, do you want to hear my sob stories are do they not matter because Im straight ?

[Robertocarlo]

:clap1: Poor Me ,Poor me ,we've all had struggles but we've got over them and don't think the world owes us and should bend to our demands ... seriously should get over themselves and stop the bloody bleating ,as you say he's got it in every bloody thread now


Bend to 'our demands'?! I am demanding nothing other than equality. If that's too much to ask then I'm sorry because I am not getting back into the closet just to please someone like you and Ann Widdicombe!

[Robertocarlo]

And I feel sad for you if you think the world owes you just because your gay, do you want to hear my sob stories are do they not matter because Im straight ?

The world doesn't owe me anything, thankfully I already have what I need thanks. That said, as I have said before, you can stand up and make excuses for Ann's bigotry and homophobia all you like but I for one am not getting back into the closet just to please narrow minded people.

[Livia]

If Ann's such a homophobe, why are Wayne and Amanda still friends with her?

[Ellen]

If Ann's such a homophobe, why are Wayne and Amanda still friends with her?

I believe she is very good friends with Russel Grant as well.

[chuff me dizzy]

The world doesn't owe me anything, thankfully I already have what I need thanks. That said, as I have said before, you can stand up and make excuses for Ann's bigotry and homophobia all you like but I for one am not getting back into the closet just to please narrow minded people.

Ive not seen Ann be a bigot and a homophobe,but will let you know when and if I do :wavey:

[chuff me dizzy]

I believe she is very good friends with Russel Grant as well.

He couldnt praise her enough on Bots last night

[Paula D]

The world doesn't owe me anything, thankfully I already have what I need thanks. That said, as I have said before, you can stand up and make excuses for Ann's bigotry and homophobia all you like but I for one am not getting back into the closet just to please narrow minded people.

You are my dear friend the very definition of a bigot:

bigot


/ˈbɪɡət/


noun

noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots




a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.
"don't let a few small-minded bigots destroy the good image of the city"


synonyms: dogmatist, partisan, sectarian, prejudiced person; More

[Livia]

I think it safe to say your post illustrates exactly what I have been trying to get across. If you believe that I am something to be 'tolerated' just because of my sexuality then I am truly sad for you.

Actually, you seem to be one of the least tolerant people on this thread.

You must have seen how the world has changed for gay people? How it continues to change? I'm sure everyone on here has friends who are gay. I know I do. But they don't leap on every perceived insult. They just live their lives as what they are... an equal part of society.

[Ellen]

He couldnt praise her enough on Bots last night

That's right he was, i think they have known each other for quite some time.

[Robertocarlo]

After the previous few comments I rest my case.

[poppsywoppsy]

I came out as a Gay man in about 1975 when in my early 20s. My Gran was totally OK with it and she was born in the early 1900s. When I first went out with my now husband in 1978 and visited my Gran she was more than happy to let us sleep in the spare room together. She had no issues at all with us being Gay. Thus, the excuses being made about Ann's age as an excuse for her bigotry and homophobia really doesn't hold, sorry. She is what she is: a bigot and a homophobe!

You miss the point

Your Gran loves you as Andrews does but would she like to see you both rolling around the floor, sexually aroused?

It is the exhibitioning Ann doesn't like. There was no need to do this, they were doing it for the cameras in a public area.

If they were doing it in private, nothing would have been said.

[Paula D]

You miss the point

Your Gran loves you as Andrews does but would she like to see you both rolling around the floor, sexually aroused?

It is the exhibitioning Ann doesn't like. There was no need to do this, they were doing it for the cameras in a public area.

If they were doing it in private, nothing would have been said.

What everybody seems to have missed is that Ann actually said she hates the theatric nature of it.

In other words she has sussed out that it's all an act between Andrew and Shortney.

I think it's gas people trying to claim homophobia against Andrew who isn't even gay. Like WTF??? He's an arsehole and we're not allowed say this because he's mates with a drag queen?

[-Sue-]

What everybody seems to have missed is that Ann actually said she hates the theatric nature of it.

In other words she has sussed out that it's all an act between Andrew and Shortney.

I think it's gas people trying to claim homophobia against Andrew who isn't even gay. Like WTF??? He's an arsehole and we're not allowed say this because he's mates with a drag queen?

No One missed it (but ty for the heads up! :shrug:)

Ann also admitted that ashley is playing a game..

Andrew always struck me as open minded in regards to most things even if his antics are not always appreciated at least he isn't anti same sex marriage etc (like ann) so its swings n roundabouts wrong doings from ann and andrew ...

I have zero problem with anyone having gay straight short tall fat thin red white blue etc friends

Act or not its been fun to watch :D without their antics it would have been biccies n coco or 1 hour a day of 'i'm a woman' / 'don't misgender me!' or perhaps hours of wayne tap dancing.. or johnny smoking.. or daniel trying to pretend he is not a foul mouthed eejit.. etc so yes I enjoyed and chuckled my old bits n bobs off when andrew dressed in drag and taped his zipedeedoodah up and took the tape off in shower much to the amusement of shane .. outside shower lol :):joker:

Do i want andrew to win .. no would i like shane j to win (i did but he seems to have changed) got quieter much like ashley & g he seems to have been sucked into hugging Andrew.. and that's as entertaining as it gets pitty really..
but I won't start disliking them just cos everyone else is

[chuff me dizzy]

Actually, you seem to be one of the least tolerant people on this thread.

You must have seen how the world has changed for gay people? How it continues to change? I'm sure everyone on here has friends who are gay. I know I do. But they don't leap on every perceived insult. They just live their lives as what they are... an equal part of society.

:clap1:

[-Sue-]

Precisely. That's why I believe Anne to be not only a prude but also a homophobe as well. As a Gay man myself I am amazed at the level of support given to this bigoted woman in this group. Shows me that old hatreds against people like myself still simmer under the surface.

((hugs)) sadly on forums come varying opinions and not all of them kind just know some of us don't think it should be tolerated all I can say is I can't wait for Ann to get off my TV

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

((hugs)) sadly on forums come varying opinions and not all of them kind just know some of us don't think it should be tolerated all I can say is I can't wait for Ann to get off my TV

I've gone off her completely. I can't tolerate homophobia. Also, she rules that house. What she says goes and everyone just agrees in there. This is why I hope Shane survives. He will challenge her.

[-Sue-]

I've gone off her completely. I can't tolerate homophobia. Also, she rules that house. What she says goes and everyone just agrees in there. This is why I hope Shane survives. He will challenge her.
I have to admit ann is doing my nut! I do agree people fear her backlash/ comments/afraid of saying/doing things incase they offend.. sure respect your elders but when does respect your elders stop and become do what ann says /wants its her house and stop being everyone else's once in a lifetime experience too!

I do think Shane is quieter because of the fear from Ann repercussions.. which is such a shame as he started off so well

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I have to admit ann is doing my nut! I do agree people fear her backlash/ comments/afraid of saying/doing things incase they offend.. sure respect your elders but when does respect your elders stop and become do what ann says /wants its her house and stop being everyone else's once in a lifetime experience too!

I do think Shane is quieter because of the fear from Ann repercussions.. which is such a shame as he started off so well

Ann has turned that House into a convent. You can't swear, you can't touch each other, you can't have fun. Boring :sleep:

[poppsywoppsy]

Ann has turned that House into a convent. You can't swear, you can't touch each other, you can't have fun. Boring :sleep:

She doesn't mind at all, I saw her laugh at swearing when it was funny, she does not appreciate it in every other word.

She has hugged many times and goes away so others can have fun.

It is not true she is against these things

[chuff me dizzy]

She doesn't mind at all, I saw her laugh at swearing when it was funny, she does not appreciate it in every other word.

She has hugged many times and goes away so others can have fun.

It is not true she is against these things

But it fills peoples agenda, so facts are not allowed

[empire]

I get in what ann is saying about touching, I'm the sort of guy who does not give hugs or kisses to people, and I don't like people giving me hugs or kisses, I prefer to give men and women handshakes only, you can call ann cold but that's the way she is, that's how she was brought up,

[Robertocarlo]

Ann has turned that House into a convent. You can't swear, you can't touch each other, you can't have fun. Boring :sleep:

Precisely Vanessa.

[Kazanne]

If Ann's such a homophobe, why are Wayne and Amanda still friends with her?

Doubt you will get a reasonable answer Livia.

[Robertocarlo]

((hugs)) sadly on forums come varying opinions and not all of them kind just know some of us don't think it should be tolerated all I can say is I can't wait for Ann to get off my TV

Thank you Sue I really appreciate your post. I was beginning to think all the posters on here were at***les xxx

[Cherry Christmas]

Ann has turned that House into a convent. You can't swear, you can't touch each other, you can't have fun. Boring :sleep:

She goes to bed early and the bedrooms have been switched, how is she stopping them from having fun, is she ruling from the bed :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

I get in what ann is saying about touching, I'm the sort of guy who does not give hugs or kisses to people, and I don't like people giving me hugs or kisses, I prefer to give men and women handshakes only, you can call ann cold but that's the way she is, that's how she was brought up,

To me it shows she's being her true self, she not going to change who she is and what she stands for and I applaud that and prefer it to watching {while cringing} the young idiots creep up each other arses to save themselves

[Kazanne]

Ann has turned that House into a convent. You can't swear, you can't touch each other, you can't have fun. Boring :sleep:

What a load of total crap,sorry but Ann has not turned the house into anything,without her we would just have had endless sexual innuendos,filthy talk and moronic behaviour, they know nothing else,If you like that sort of thing that's up to you but I don't want to see or hear it all day every day,.Are you saying she hypnotises them to do as she wants?:joker: I have never heard such claptrap,and she was supposed to be your fave to start with ,you LOVED her "straight talking" Jesus:shrug:

[Ellen]

Ann has turned that House into a convent. You can't swear, you can't touch each other, you can't have fun. Boring :sleep:

Really? Thats odd because i have seen them doing all that.

[Ellen]

Vanessa just want 24/7 orgies and swingers parties with Andrew dancing round a pole in the garden :joker::joker:

[Robertocarlo]

She goes to bed early and the bedrooms have been switched, how is she stopping them from having fun, is she ruling from the bed :laugh:

When Andrew and Courtney were being lewd on the floor, according to Ann, it was when she was in bed so it appears that she does disapprove of anything happening at any time. Also, I wonder who told her about the incident???

[chuff me dizzy]

Ann has turned that House into a convent. You can't swear, you can't touch each other, you can't have fun. Boring :sleep:

Why didn't she stop the dirty gett you have championed for weeks from calling her a C U next Tuesday ? you make yourself look very silly

[Ellen]

When Andrew and Courtney were being lewd on the floor, according to Ann, it was when she was in bed so it appears that she does disapprove of anything happening at any time. Also, I wonder who told her about the incident???

She was going to the DR

[chuff me dizzy]

When Andrew and Courtney were being lewd on the floor, according to Ann, it was when she was in bed so it appears that she does disapprove of anything happening at any time. Also, I wonder who told her about the incident???

No she wasn't in bed :bored: She also nominated them for filth talk,but you seem to have forgotten that

[empire]

ann is very comfortable with shane but when he turns into courtney he starts to be very pushy and that can test ann's tolerance level, when courtney and andrew are doing there flirting thing its just not her seen, maybe she should of walked out of the room, but its a very small house, thats what I would of done in ann's position, if I was in the house I'm okey with shane but when he is in courtney charcter with andrew I would walk out of the room because its not my cup of tea, understand that ann is a straight talker and people now misinterpret what straight talkers say these days, its like throwing a stone at a glass house these days and people now are very sensitive in what people say, and then cards get thrown at you for it.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

:laugh2:Vanessa just want 24/7 orgies and swingers parties with Andrew dancing round a pole in the garden :joker::joker:

[Christmas Lights]

Vanessa just want 24/7 orgies and swingers parties with Andrew dancing round a pole in the garden :joker::joker:

Basically drunken porn then by sounds of it :bored: