i'm sorry to say this but....

[Nicky91]

Putin had offered to help with the investigation


UK declines this, and just because they are ''confident'' they know Russia is to blame


sorry but a russian ex spy was poisoned with his daughter, the UK people weren't attacked themselves, if Putin says he knows nothing about this poisoning incident, i believe him


and i thought UK wanted to leave the EU, and yet they run to the EU like weak pathetic sheep, where's your ''brexit'' independence now :rolleyes:


and now Australia kicks out russian diplomats, UGH it is true about that saying, all sheep follow each other when 1 jumps over the pond :facepalm:


i am so happy not being a sheep, and siding with Putin on this, i believe in the term innocent until proven guilty


i am not against UK but i am against dumb decisions

[Kazanne]

Putin had offered to help with the investigation


UK declines this, and just because they are ''confident'' they know Russia is to blame


sorry but a russian ex spy was poisoned with his daughter, the UK people weren't attacked themselves, if Putin says he knows nothing about this poisoning incident, i believe him


and i thought UK wanted to leave the EU, and yet they run to the EU like weak pathetic sheep, where's your ''brexit'' independence now :rolleyes:


and now Australia kicks out russian diplomats, UGH it is true about that saying, all sheep follow each other when 1 jumps over the pond :facepalm:


i am so happy not being a sheep, and siding with Putin on this, i believe in the term innocent until proven guilty


i am not against UK but i am against dumb decisions

Sorry Nicki but other people WERE affected ,such as the policeman,plus all the others in the area who were near are now living in uncertainty of whether they could be affected in the future,just because we have not heard definate proof does not mean there isn't any, they must be pretty sure, we know you think Putin is 'hot' but don't let that cloud your judgement.

[bots]

Nicky,

Your own Netherlands also ejected Russian diplomats, perhaps you should ask your government why they did it?

[Nicky91]

Sorry Nicki but other people WERE affected ,such as the policeman,plus all the others in the area who were near are now living in uncertainty of whether they could be affected in the future,just because we have not heard definate proof does not mean there isn't any, they must be pretty sure, we know you think Putin is 'hot' but don't let that cloud your judgement.

Putin said he wants to cooperate with the investigation, UK and other countries can't just simply banish all russian diplomats


it are probably russian separatists, same who also shotdown MH17


they are not officially part of the government, so they are a disgrace for Russia i think as well


not all russians are evil but these separatists were protecting ukrainian rebels at Crimea, remember


and Putin is right if it truly was a official military strike then the ex spy would've been immediately killed, this is more the work of a terror group not military


or at least that are my thoughts

[Kazanne]

Putin said he wants to cooperate with the investigation, UK and other countries can't just simply banish all russian diplomats


it are probably russian separatists, same who also shotdown MH17


they are not officially part of the government, so they are a disgrace for Russia i think as well


not all russians are evil but these separatists were protecting ukrainian rebels at Crimea, remember


and Putin is right if it truly was a official military strike then the ex spy would've been immediately killed, this is more the work of a terror group not military


or at least that are my thoughts

And Putin cant go round just poisoning people either Nicki,and no one has said ALL Russians are evil.

[Nicky91]

And Putin cant go round just poisoning people either Nicki,and no one has said ALL Russians are evil.

he didn't :oh:


i said russian separatists, they have nothing to do with Putin and his government

[Kazanne]

he didn't :oh:


i said russian separatists, they have nothing to do with Putin and his government

You have no proof of that either:fist:

[Nicky91]

You have no proof of that either:fist:

i can have my own theory, especially when UK are their very own Judge, jury and executioner :fan:

[user104658]

There's certainly more to it all than meets the eye Nicky (as there always is), but I don't think it's as clear cut as you're making out, and I don't think we can quite apply the term "innocent" to Putin... whether he ordered this or not :joker:.

I personally do agree that the response has been kneejerk though, and I find myself wondering why. The reasoning is "action had to be taken!!"... but that doesn't mean that action had to be taken instantly, the whole thing should have been handled at a slower pace, until "probably"s became "almost definitely"s.

[Kazanne]

i can have my own theory, especially when UK are their very own Judge, jury and executioner :fan:

It's not just the UK though is it,even you own country has expelled Russian diplomats,why is that?

[Nicky91]

sorry but i feel sad for Russia, i know i am alone at this but i am not a sheep

[user104658]

sorry but i feel sad for Russia, i know i am alone at this but i am not a sheep

I would say the main reason to feel sad for Russia is that their politics has become a sham... but then, hasn't all politics :joker:

[Nicky91]

It's not just the UK though is it,even you own country has expelled Russian diplomats,why is that?

i am disgusted by my country as well, probably to follow UK's greatness :yuk:



UK wanting Brexit, strong independence, but they come running to EU like weak pathetic sheep :joker: :joker:

[Kazanne]

sorry but i feel sad for Russia, i know i am alone at this but i am not a sheep

I feel sorry for the people of Salisbury tbh.https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/public-areas-in-salisbury-to-be-decontaminated/ar-BBKIMg3?ocid=spartandhp

[Nicky91]

I would say the main reason to feel sad for Russia is that their politics has become a sham... but then, hasn't all politics :joker:

Trump made America pathetic i know, but at least he has the courage to congratulate Putin on his victory at the elections


others are just immediately thinking of Russia as evil :nono:

[Kazanne]

Trump made America pathetic i know, but at least he has the courage to congratulate Putin on his victory at the elections


others are just immediately thinking of Russia as evil :nono:

And trump expelled more Russian diplomats than any other country:hee: I have seen no one say Russia is evil :nono:

[AnnieK]

There's one thing for sure and that's Putin would be mortified to think people feel sorry for Russia. They are to be feared, not pitied in their minds.

People of the UK could be affected by this and the worrying thing is it could be years down the line that any effects of the nerve agent could present. Thats a long time for people who possibly came into contact with the substance to worry about every cough, sneeze and sniffle.

I do think a measured approach would have been wiser but what's done is done I guess. We are still members of the EU until 2019 so only right that we consulted with them.

[jet]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/26/130-people-feared-exposed-to-novichok-in-spy-attack-says-pm


More than 130 people could have been exposed to the deadly nerve agent novichok during the Russian spy attack in Salisbury, Theresa May said on Monday.

The prime minister told MPs that hundreds of British citizens had been put in danger by the “utterly barbaric” act which left Sergei Skripal, a former Russian intelligence official, and his daughter Yulia in a coma.

May said that no country other than Russia had the combination of “the capability, the intent and the motive” to carry out such an attack.

“Sergei and Yulia Skripal remain critically ill in hospital. Sadly, late last week, doctors indicated that their condition is unlikely to change in the near future, and they may never recover fully,” she said.

“This shows the utterly barbaric nature of this act, and the dangers that hundreds of innocent citizens in Salisbury could have faced.”

She added: “We assess that more than 130 people in Salisbury could have been potentially exposed to this nerve agent.”

May pledged the UK, together with its EU and Nato allies, would “face down” the Russian threat and defend its infrastructure, institutions and values. “We will act to protect our national security and to keep our people safe.”

More than 50 people have been assessed in hospital, including DS Nick Bailey, who was discharged last week saying his life would probably never be the same after being exposed.

[Nicky91]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/26/130-people-feared-exposed-to-novichok-in-spy-attack-says-pm


More than 130 people could have been exposed to the deadly nerve agent novichok during the Russian spy attack in Salisbury, Theresa May said on Monday.

The prime minister told MPs that hundreds of British citizens had been put in danger by the “utterly barbaric” act which left Sergei Skripal, a former Russian intelligence official, and his daughter Yulia in a coma.

May said that no country other than Russia had the combination of “the capability, the intent and the motive” to carry out such an attack.

“Sergei and Yulia Skripal remain critically ill in hospital. Sadly, late last week, doctors indicated that their condition is unlikely to change in the near future, and they may never recover fully,” she said.

“This shows the utterly barbaric nature of this act, and the dangers that hundreds of innocent citizens in Salisbury could have faced.”

She added: “We assess that more than 130 people in Salisbury could have been potentially exposed to this nerve agent.”

May pledged the UK, together with its EU and Nato allies, would “face down” the Russian threat and defend its infrastructure, institutions and values. “We will act to protect our national security and to keep our people safe.”

More than 50 people have been assessed in hospital, including DS Nick Bailey, who was discharged last week saying his life would probably never be the same after being exposed.


blah blah blah, and all the while Russia destroys ISIS for us cause UK and other european countries are too damn weak :joker: :joker: :joker:

[AnnieK]

''Strong Independent UK since Brexit'' :laugh3: :laugh3:

Its really not a laughing matter Nicky.

[AnnieK]

blah blah blah, and all the while Russia destroys ISIS for us cause UK and other european countries are too damn weak :joker: :joker: :joker:

Your scorn is quite troubling to be fair Nicky

[Nicky91]

Its really not a laughing matter Nicky.

sorry but Putin felt sad about Skripal and his daughter


Russia Destroys terrorist threats and this is how we thank them



i am laughing so much now :joker:

[jet]

blah blah blah, and all the while Russia destroys ISIS for us cause UK and other european countries are too damn weak :joker: :joker: :joker:

blah blah blah? Would you be saying that if that policeman was your father or brother?
Russia is helping to destroy ISIS so they can poison UK citizens if they want, is that it?

[Kazanne]

blah blah blah? Would you be saying that if that policeman was your father or brother?
Russia is helping to destroy ISIS so they can poison UK citizens if they want, is that it?

:clap1: Beat me to it Jet.:wavey:

[AnnieK]

I'm out of this thread now. Sorry Nicky, but you have really gone down in my estimations now. You are more than entitled to your views and.opinions but laughing and pouring scorn on what has happened is not big or clever in my eyes I'm afraid

[jet]

are you seriously this stupid? couldn't it be terrorists based in Russia who have a corrupt military official or something who gave them the novichok nerve gas


but Putin didn't know about his country's involvement in this, that's why he wants to help with the investigation ;)

It possibly wasn't Putin himself who gave the order (though that is doubtful) but Putin has said categorically that 'Russia had nothing to do with it'. How could he possibly know that it wasn't other people in Russia who carried out the attack? Now THAT was a stupid statement.

[Kazanne]

I'm out of this thread now. Sorry Nicky, but you have really gone down in my estimations now. You are more than entitled to your views and.opinions but laughing and pouring scorn on what has happened is not big or clever in my eyes I'm afraid

Yes Annie ,same here,I am really disappointed too

[jet]

Yes Annie ,same here,I am really disappointed too

Yes, following suit.

[jaxie]

Were I you Nicky I'd stop typing rubbish just now, go out, enjoy the day because of you keep this up I don't think you will have very many friends left on this forum,

[Niamh.]

Bloody hell Nicky :/ You're opinions on this are really questionable

[Livia]

i can have my own theory, especially when UK are their very own Judge, jury and executioner :fan:

You need to find out more about this and stop making yourself look stupid.

[TwentyOneThrones]

Nicky is cancelled

[RichardG]

don't worry guys, nicky will change his mind again soon and make some new posts insulting putin.

[Nicky91]

I'm out of this thread now. Sorry Nicky, but you have really gone down in my estimations now. You are more than entitled to your views and.opinions but laughing and pouring scorn on what has happened is not big or clever in my eyes I'm afraid

Yes Annie ,same here,I am really disappointed too

this really hurts, i am a nice person and yes i feel sad for the poisoning victims

sorry that i laughed, it makes me feel like a hater which i am against :sad:

Yes, following suit.

Bloody hell Nicky :/ You're opinions on this are really questionable

You need to find out more about this and stop making yourself look stupid.

Nicky is cancelled


i am only defending Russia because it's one of my fave countries, but i can't justify their actions

[Livia]

this really hurts, i am a nice person and yes i feel sad for the poisoning victims

sorry that i laughed, it makes me feel like a hater which i am against :sad:










i am only defending Russia because it's one of my fave countries, but i can't justify their actions

I can't speak for the rest of the forum but I find your comments on the UK and Russia to be not only ill-informed, but really quite rude. People died. Russia has a history. Putin just won their election because his opposition wasn't allowed to stand - that's democracy for you. People were actually filmed putting bogus ballot papers into ballot boxes. And you're on here insulting our prime minister for how she's handled them carrying out a chemical attack on two people on British soil.

[Nicky91]

I can't speak for the rest of the forum but I find your comments on the UK and Russia to be not only ill-informed, but really quite rude. People died. Russia has a history. Putin just won their election because his opposition wasn't allowed to stand - that's democracy for you. People were actually filmed putting bogus ballot papers into ballot boxes. And you're on here insulting our prime minister for how she's handled them carrying out a chemical attack on two people on British soil.

yes okay there is truth in this, i shouldn't support Corbyn cause he's a racist


Theresa is a good PM i think, at least better than our Mark Rutte


not all russians are evil, sorry but the gay community there is also a target of hate crime, i like Russia because i have a friend who has a russian family, she lives in Germany and she feels sad her family's country is now seen as pure evil


and i was wrong for laughing, i was being so rude i should read about this more, and be more informed

[Northern Monkey]

There's certainly more to it all than meets the eye Nicky (as there always is), but I don't think it's as clear cut as you're making out, and I don't think we can quite apply the term "innocent" to Putin... whether he ordered this or not :joker:.

I personally do agree that the response has been kneejerk though, and I find myself wondering why. The reasoning is "action had to be taken!!"... but that doesn't mean that action had to be taken instantly, the whole thing should have been handled at a slower pace, until "probably"s became "almost definitely"s.
This is my position too.All anyone said was that “it was more than likely Russia”.Which i also happen to believe.
However,The response was extremely quick.I thought maybe some more investigating might’ve gone on first.
Maybe the government had some evidence from the secret services that they didn’t make public.
Or maybe the PM just thought it’d get more confidence from the public to react straight away I don’t know.
I think she’s done well in the response and got the support of our allies but it was very rushed and i really do hope there’s strong evidence.

[Northern Monkey]

Putin had offered to help with the investigation


UK declines this, and just because they are ''confident'' they know Russia is to blame


sorry but a russian ex spy was poisoned with his daughter, the UK people weren't attacked themselves, if Putin says he knows nothing about this poisoning incident, i believe him


and i thought UK wanted to leave the EU, and yet they run to the EU like weak pathetic sheep, where's your ''brexit'' independence now :rolleyes:


and now Australia kicks out russian diplomats, UGH it is true about that saying, all sheep follow each other when 1 jumps over the pond :facepalm:


i am so happy not being a sheep, and siding with Putin on this, i believe in the term innocent until proven guilty


i am not against UK but i am against dumb decisions:facepalm:

This was never going to go down well

[Northern Monkey]

blah blah blah, and all the while Russia destroys ISIS for us cause UK and other european countries are too damn weak :joker: :joker: :joker:

Russia are killing civilians in Syria with unguided bombs and are not just killing ISIS.They’re fortifying the Assad government and killing anyone who’s against him and aid convoys.
They’re not these terrorist killing heroes you seem to believe they are.

[Nicky91]

^ i know that now

[arista]

Putin had offered to help with the investigation


UK declines this, and just because they are ''confident'' they know Russia is to blame


sorry but a russian ex spy was poisoned with his daughter, the UK people weren't attacked themselves, if Putin says he knows nothing about this poisoning incident, i believe him


and i thought UK wanted to leave the EU, and yet they run to the EU like weak pathetic sheep, where's your ''brexit'' independence now :rolleyes:


and now Australia kicks out russian diplomats, UGH it is true about that saying, all sheep follow each other when 1 jumps over the pond :facepalm:


i am so happy not being a sheep, and siding with Putin on this, i believe in the term innocent until proven guilty


i am not against UK but i am against dumb decisions


Nicky
This Point has be debated all over UK TV news and Radio
Putin would maybe say "No " "this is not from our nation"
and then thats him done.


He is the Enemy
due to that former murder
with the killer cup of tea.



No way is it DUMB
to not give Putin samples

[Nicky91]

Nicky
This Point has be debated all over UK TV news and Radio
Putin would maybe say "No " "this is not from our nation"
and then thats him done.


He is the Enemy
due to that former murder
with the killer cup of tea.



No way is it DUMB
to not give Putin samples

yep :clap1: :clap1: i 100% agree with you now

[arista]

blah blah blah, and all the while Russia destroys ISIS for us cause UK and other european countries are too damn weak :joker: :joker: :joker:



Yes Great Russia Killing Isis
But Nicky so does USA , UK and other nations.

But in Killing some Isis
Russia has Bombed from the Air
Hospitals is Syria, thats Evil
Ref : Ch4HD news reported it first.

[arista]

yep :clap1: :clap1: i 100% agree with you now



Thats Good

[Nicky91]

Thats Good

yeah i just didn't know what i was thinking this morning, i feel sad for the russians who have to cope with that regime, and the gay community in Russia who also suffer a lot


if there was a fair democracy it would be better in Russia i think

[Marsh.]

if Putin says he knows nothing about this poisoning incident, i believe him

i am so happy not being a sheep, and siding with Putin on this

i am against dumb decisions

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[user104658]

Trump made America pathetic i know, but at least he has the courage to congratulate Putin on his victory at the elections


others are just immediately thinking of Russia as evil :nono:

Russian democracy is a sham, though, even moreso than in the West... he doesn't have any realistic political opponents and if one starts to rise they're quickly taken out of the equation. I believe one such potential opponent "mysteriously died"... the other one that I know more about was convicted (probably falsely) of minor fraud. Not even of a serious crime; he is a free man in Russia and an anti-Putin campaigner, but "coincidentally"... if you're convicted of any type of fraud in Russia, you become ineligible to be elected to political office. They've figured out that you don't even need to use violence to eliminate your political opponents... a stroke of a pen will do the trick.

[montblanc]

:skull:

[Matthew.]

sorry but Putin felt sad about Skripal and his daughter


Russia Destroys terrorist threats and this is how we thank them



i am laughing so much now :joker:

you must be pretty clueless about this topic if you think that it’s funny tbh

[Twosugars]

Nicky, you seem to be seeking attention... are you okay? Is anything the matter?

[Barry.]

Oh Nicky :(. I love Russia at Eurovision though.

[Nicky91]

Oh Nicky :(. I love Russia at Eurovision though.

i never supported or voted for them at eurovision honestly

[Nicky91]

:skull:

you must be pretty clueless about this topic if you think that it’s funny tbh

Nicky, you seem to be seeking attention... are you okay? Is anything the matter?

i was misinformed at first, now i know the full story i am on the UK's side for sure

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nicky just to clarify

You love and support Putin and Mugabe but hate May and Trump?

[kirklancaster]

Nicky just to clarify

You love and support Putin and Mugabe but hate May and Trump?

:joker:

[Nicky91]

Nicky just to clarify

You love and support Putin and Mugabe but hate May and Trump?

i support Theresa May now ;)

[Ammi]

..Dutch-Anglo relations have been restored..:lovedup:...a few scary../..worrying, shaky moments there, Nicky...but all is good and well now...no immediate threats, eh...:love:...

[kirklancaster]

i support Theresa May now ;)

But did you know that Mugabe is really a Yorkshireman Nicky?

He reversed his name from 'Eee, Ba Gum'. :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

i support Theresa May now ;)

Wow you are a Tory, you just lost 90% of the forum and all members under 30

:shocked: