can we talk about the elephant in the room please...?...

[Ammi]

...i’m going in a little blind here...as i’m just piecing together the current ban list and some PMs I’ve received...so apologies... i’ve tried to distance myself a bit from any ‘negative forum’ stuff...just because of the energy involved is one thing...which I just haven’t had...but also I obviously haven’t been here very much in recent times...so it can be hard to understand...which is obviously essential to ‘objectivity’....this though is heartbreaking..the ban list is heartbreaking...the role of staff atm is heartbreaking..in SD and politics particularly from what I’ve seen since i’ve been here more....


..I don’t want to dwell too much on infractions/bans etc...many things are deleted anyway..(..for obvious reasons..)...I understand that a ‘break a rule’ will incur an infraction ...and that those infractions will sometimes lead to bans etc...I completely understand that and that we are all responsible for own actions etc...but then...because of the despair felt by many staff it would seem, in recently read things of that particular section and particular thread topics etc...?...’break the rules’ will just surely be frequent inevitabilities as well though...?...because there is no enthusiasm...(...and understandably so..)...for staff to ‘de-escalate’...in ways that we’re all familiar with on this particular forum...and why we’ve always felt so supportive to a great team of staff and admin...?...


....anyways my words aren’t coming easily atm../...my thoughts are a bit jumbled with stuff i’ve logged onto...but it’s more..’where do/can we go with this’...for us all to stay together as a forum and for some resolve to possibly be reached...there is a collective of grievance or negativity, it would seem...and that’s never a good thing for anyone...TiBB has become too small of regular posters to have people leave...whatever we all as individuals feel about any grievances and how ‘valid’ they are, it doesn’t matter...we’re all going to have varied perspectives with those things...but those things don’t make any difference to how real things are being felt atm...and how they appear to be becoming a ‘collective’...which surely has to be addressed..?...I hate to go back on stuff but this isn’t the first time..(..in my time on TiBB..)...that there has been collective negatively concerning the forum...and as we know, negativity grows and gathers so quickly because people will always have ‘grievances’...and that sadly didn’t resolve very quickly at all and grew and grew before it did resolve...from my recollection, a resolve was found with a few ‘representatives’ talking things through...and possibly beginning quite hostile as well, but then if we don’t get to the bad, we can’t get to the good though...anyways, I have no idea how much I’m rambling...but...I understand why it’s not the place to discuss in threads etc...I also understand the frustrations of PMs if they’re not responded to etc...(..and the reasons for some not being responded to may be because there is ‘hostility’ also in their vein...and the thought that responding will only lead to more negative place..)...I understand it all from all perspectives...but it’s where do we go then, how can any resolve be possible..if it is a possibility at all..?...the solution (..may be..)...to create a group chat thing with a few staff representatives and member representatives ..so it’s completely controlled...and both ‘sides’ are able to communicate with each other..?...could that please be something to consider, James..?...could we not just allow any feelings of ‘hopelessness’ to continue please, James...can we not continue as a forum to allow staff to feel so deflated about attempting to moderate any sections of the forum ..or even feel ‘targeted’...can we not allow valued members to feel so dispaired also...that they consider leaving us all...can we try communication, please ...for all of those voices...this is just heartbreaking for a forum that is still so essentially beautiful in its members...all of them...

[Ammi]

...I’m not even going to proof read that...I’m sure it’s awful in its grammar etc and this darn IPad is awful also...but surely a group chat of representatives to try to resolve, could be made...is what it’s meant to say...

[y.winter]

Oh wow, what happened? Fight night much

[Calderyon]

The problem mainly exits on the Serious Debates section and then of course sometimes on the main forum sections (BB/CBB) during on-season.

[Ammi]

..it’s not really so much the ‘problem’ though, Cald...it’s more that ‘problems’ seem to be felt and have to be acknowledged and given validity...(...from all perspectives...staff and members etc..)...so it’s more a possible solution of keeping all members and staff where they are right now...and not losing anyone...either from a team or as a member, you know...

[Nicky91]

i know SD&N subforum is a place where the most vile nasty sometimes offensive posts are, i have lots of respect for all you mods keeping this forum clean of all that


but banning members just because they had a too heated conversation, if i were a mod i would've just given a warning to them



this is only my personal opinion, and i will continue to have respect for the mods on here


i know i am not allowed to discuss this but i wanted to express my views on this matter


this thread will probably be closed but i've said what i wanted to say now

[Mystic Mock]

The problem mainly exits on the Serious Debates section and then of course sometimes on the main forum sections (BB/CBB) during on-season.

Do people really take feuds on-season so seriously? If that's the case then I'm assuming that there's something much deeper going on beneath the surface than "he/she didn't like my favourite Housemate on Big Brother."

And I honestly believe that people should be careful about how much time they spend on Serious Debates as people are likely to fall out over certain political issues, especially if it's a Tory versus Labour issue as neither side can seem to understand each other or compromise with each other on issues on here, tbf it's the same on DS too and it makes their Serious Debates section really intense to keep viewing so I only use it sporadically.

[kirklancaster]

“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

― George Orwell, Animal Farm

[Ammi]

Do people really take feuds on-season so seriously? If that's the case then I'm assuming that there's something much deeper going on beneath the surface than "he/she didn't like my favourite Housemate on Big Brother."

And I honestly believe that people should be careful about how much time they spend on Serious Debates as people are likely to fall out over certain political issues, especially if it's a Tory versus Labour issue as neither side can seem to understand each other or compromise with each other on issues on here, tbf it's the same on DS too and it makes their Serious Debates section really intense to keep viewing so I only use it sporadically.

..I don’t think any of us that might say ‘do people take these things so seriously, really..’...have never taken stuff seriously ourselves at some points and some situations, Mock...:laugh:...with a forum such as TiBB and the whole nature of it..we’re all here because of so many close bonds etc...so yes, with that...there will be ‘taken seriously’ as well...there couldn’t not be...we wouldn’t be human and we wouldn’t have balance with the absence of ‘taking things seriously’ at times....

[Nicky91]

i am also sort of shocked about this Ammi, debates just can get heated and then you say things which may come over offensive and vile


i've recently started posting more in SD&N, just to chat more about the news on here either

[Calderyon]

What is the problem then?

Some members just not getting along with each other?

[Cherie]

Oh wow, what happened? Fight night much

There was no fight night all those on the list had amassed too many infraction points

[Cherie]

“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

― George Orwell, Animal Farm

Sums it up Kirk

[Cherie]

What is the problem then?

Some members just not getting along with each other?

Nope

[Calderyon]

What is the main issue?

And what caused it?

And what is the solution to it?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Stop Dezzy moderating and posting in SD. He has admitted he has a huge problem dealing with people older than him and it shows. He baits, he is curt and rude and he is inconsistent. He is fine with younger people in other areas and if he wasnt a mod and the protection that brings would be a decent member.


get rid of infractions such as "baiting" which are really just a way for mods to exercise grievances or frustrations. Its too generic and too many instances get missed (by their own criteria) that leads to frustration.


Mods must post why they deleted an image or a post - end of. If you are going to delete posts say why it was deleted, dont delete them dont say why and then inbfract members when they post it again - madness


re state the rules about member insults and tighten them, I am fed up reporting people for this personally.


Rethink moderation in SD. Yes it will always be a sh1tstorm and get a little "well wait you said this and i said that" so what, let it go, no one cares and if you as a mod dont participate in SD a lot leave it to those who do.


Wipe all infractions and start again, yesterday was just petty and vindictive and dont bother replying it wasnt as no one will believe you
Mods and admin reply to PMS about grievances and dont ignore them as they wont go away@James. DOnt be bloody lazy.




I dont need any member who does not participate regularly in SD to reply btw


:)

[Vicky.]

Do people really take feuds on-season so seriously? If that's the case then I'm assuming that there's something much deeper going on beneath the surface than "he/she didn't like my favourite Housemate on Big Brother."

And I honestly believe that people should be careful about how much time they spend on Serious Debates as people are likely to fall out over certain political issues, especially if it's a Tory versus Labour issue as neither side can seem to understand each other or compromise with each other on issues on here, tbf it's the same on DS too and it makes their Serious Debates section really intense to keep viewing so I only use it sporadically.
Feuds are worse offseason than onseason tbh

[Amy Jade]

Dezzy is a great mod and he does thoroughly explain why he infracted you if you ask him.

[Nicky91]

Dezzy is a great mod i agree with Amy, i also admire him for his Kate Bush support

[Withano]

From what I saw/see, people have began to regularly avoid the SD topic and just talk about other forum members.

Probably not the answer the banned members are hoping for, but imo, everyone should make an active effort to stop doing that.

[Nicky91]

i'm not gonna avoid SD

[Matthew.]

i always feel quite intimidated in sd, lots of intelligent people :laugh:

[kirklancaster]

Stop Dezzy moderating and posting in SD. He has admitted he has a huge problem dealing with people older than him and it shows. He baits, he is curt and rude and he is inconsistent. He is fine with younger people in other areas and if he wasnt a mod and the protection that brings would be a decent member.


get rid of infractions such as "baiting" which are really just a way for mods to exercise grievances or frustrations. Its too generic and too many instances get missed (by their own criteria) that leads to frustration.


Mods must post why they deleted an image or a post - end of. If you are going to delete posts say why it was deleted, dont delete them dont say why and then inbfract members when they post it again - madness


re state the rules about member insults and tighten them, I am fed up reporting people for this personally.


Rethink moderation in SD. Yes it will always be a sh1tstorm and get a little "well wait you said this and i said that" so what, let it go, no one cares and if you as a mod dont participate in SD a lot leave it to those who do.


Wipe all infractions and start again, yesterday was just petty and vindictive and dont bother replying it wasnt as no one will believe you
Mods and admin reply to PMS about grievances and dont ignore them as they wont go away@James. DOnt be bloody lazy.




I dont need any member who does not participate regularly in SD to reply btw


:)

BRILLIANTLY expressed L.T.

[Rob!]

Well, I got infracted for having an opinion on this last night but I don't really care. This isn't North Korea and if I want to say something about it, I bloody will. The ban system needs a rethink, because the length of those bans compared to those that deserve it is actually laughable.

[Crimson Dynamo]

From what I saw/see, people have began to regularly avoid the SD topic and just talk about other forum members.

Probably not the answer the banned members are hoping for, but imo, everyone should make an active effort to stop doing that.

Indeed and its a problem that I hope you and brillo resolve going forward

[Withano]

Indeed and its a problem that I hope you and brillo resolve going forward

Several Brillo threads have been made (not by me), which i agree should probably stop. I’m sure infractions are giving out like free balloons within them though.

Any fourth other member you want to negatively discuss in this thread LT? :hee:
Edit, fifth

[Rob!]

Also, I don’t think there’s any point in singuling out Dezzy when he’s got rules he has to follow, whether he agrees with them or not.

[Cherie]

Also, I don’t think there’s any point in singuling out Dezzy when he’s got rules he has to follow, whether he agrees with them or not.

The problem there is that yes there are rules and they should be adhered to whoever you are if you are participating in a thread.

[Cherie]

I would also add that admin just ignoring pms is not helping the situation, we all understand you have a life James, but even an acknowledgement that you have received the pm and will get round to it when you are good and ready would go some way to easing the frustrations felt.

[Ross.]

Ammi is #MyPresident

[Jordan.]

Keep up the good work mods, no one is above the rules regardless of how busy the forum is. Let the tantrums occur

https://i.imgur.com/iOBmbOK.gif

[Cherie]

Keep up the good work mods, no one is above the rules regardless of how busy the forum is. Let the tantrums occur

https://i.imgur.com/iOBmbOK.gif

It's great you got right to the root of the problem, thankyou :love:

[Jordan.]

It's great you got right to the root of the problem, thankyou :love:

I think the mods did that when all your friends got clocked

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[Cherie]

I think the mods did that when all your friends got clocked

https://i.imgur.com/iOBmbOK.gif

thank you again for seeing the issue that everyone should be subject to the rules of the forum

[Nicky91]

of course insulting other members is against the rules which i now know

[kirklancaster]

Keep up the good work mods, no one is above the rules regardless of how busy the forum is. Let the tantrums occur

https://i.imgur.com/iOBmbOK.gif

No one is 'attacking Mods' per se and post such as yours do not help this matter.

The members involved here are not naive young teenagers who are not actively involved with what is a very real issue but are decent, mature and intelligent people - most of them long-standing members - who have a very valid grievance.

Unfortunately, these members are caught in a 'Catch 22' situation by Forum Rules, because merely answering posts like yours with any type of detailed explanation of the problem actually breaches forum rules.

When someone finds another person to be nice, amiable and decent it is hard to accept that other people can have experienced real issues from that same person with him/her not being so nice, amiable or decent, but someone's personality whilst, say, playing games, may not always be the same when engaged in say, Serious Debates.

Rather like the husband who is charming and affable when out in the pub, but who batters his partner regularly during domestic arguments behind closed doors.

So it would help to refrain from inferring that these members are 'throwing tantrums' because they think that they are 'above the rules' because that is simply NOT the case.

These members grievance is simply that they want to be treated equitably WITHIN the rules.

[Jordan.]

Is the moderating of a reality forum really being compared to domestic violence :skull: None of your issues will be sorted until you learn to stop taking an irrelevant forum so seriously and by the looks of things we're still far from that.

[kirklancaster]

Is the moderating of a reality forum really being compared to domestic violence :skull: None of your issues will be sorted until you learn to stop taking an irrelevant forum so seriously and by the looks of things we're still far from that.

Yes, it is being compared in as much that people in a certain environment are not always as they appear to be in another environment.

As for the text which I have emboldened, if certain members are GENUINELY being discriminated against and treated punitively in comparison to certain other members then THAT demands to be taken seriously.

The irony of a certain member who crusades for 'Equality' for Muslims and non-Whites and Gays etc is glaring when that same person is the very one at the heart of this very complex long-standing issue about equality for ALL members.

Ideals - like Charity - begin at home. Or SHOULD do.

As for this forum being 'irrelevant' (YOUR words not mine), that may well be so as far as Chat and Games is concerned, but those regular contributors to Serous Debates might not view TIBB as 'irrelevant' - I certainly don't.

[Nicky91]

Yes, it is being compared in as much that people in a certain environment are not always as they appear to be in another environment.

As for the text which I have emboldened, if certain members are GENUINELY being discriminated against and treated punitively in comparison to certain other members then THAT demands to be taken seriously.

The irony of a certain member who crusades for 'Equality' for Muslims and non-Whites and Gays etc is glaring when that same person is the very one at the heart of this very complex long-standing issue about equality for ALL members.

Ideals - like Charity - begin at home. Or SHOULD do.

As for this forum being 'irrelevant' (YOUR words not mine), that may well be so as far as Chat and Games is concerned, but those regular contributors to Serous Debates might not view TIBB as 'irrelevant' - I certainly don't.

''i) Staff members on the forum have the right to delete, modify or change the content of any post at any time for any reason without notification to anyone. They can also ban or restrict forum members for any reason at anytime. If a moderator edits your post on the forum do not remove the edits.
Racism/homophobia/xenophobia/discrimination of any sort won't be tolerated.''


i thought i bring this up from the forum rules, this helps me understand what happened last night a lot more

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i also admire him for his Kate Bush support

i’M SCREAMING WTF DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING :joker:

[Cherie]

Is the moderating of a reality forum really being compared to domestic violence :skull: None of your issues will be sorted until you learn to stop taking an irrelevant forum so seriously and by the looks of things we're still far from that.

yet you begged to come back after a lengthy ban? Look you are not involved in this, you rarely if ever post in SD so maybe it isn't for you to comment on how others feel?

[Cherie]

i’M SCREAMING WTF DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING :joker:

it's a positive :dance:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

hitler wasn’t a nice person, but he did have a pet dog... i find this endearing :flutter:

[Jordan.]

yet you begged to come back after a lengthy ban? Look you are not involved in this, you rarely if ever post in SD so maybe it isn't for you to comment on how others feel?

I can comment on what I want, stop discriminating me :(

[Crimson Dynamo]

hitler wasn’t a nice person, but he did have a pet dog... i find this endearing :flutter:

lets not forget he was always smartly dressed, something that younger members on here would do well to note

[Cherie]

hitler wasn’t a nice person, but he did have a pet dog... i find this endearing :flutter:

:laugh:

[Cherie]

I can comment on what I want, stop discriminating me :(

You can't really comment on how others feel can you? you can comment on your own feelings of course.

[Nicky91]

You can't really comment on how others feel can you? you can comment on your own feelings of course.

:laugh:

[kirklancaster]

hitler wasn’t a nice person, but he did have a pet dog... i find this endearing :flutter:

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

[Rob!]

Myra Hindley had an excellent weave :love:

[T*]

can I PLEASE get a waffle

[Greg!]

i always feel quite intimidated in sd, lots of intelligent people :laugh:

Well that's one way of looking at it :eyes:


Keep up the good work mods, no one is above the rules regardless of how busy the forum is. Let the tantrums occur


https://i.imgur.com/iOBmbOK.gif

:clap1:


hitler wasn’t a nice person, but he did have a pet dog... i find this endearing :flutter:

BYE

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh and did everyone know that Josy is not an admin anymore I think I am correct in stating?

[Greg!]

Idgi why are people RAGING over a few members getting a 24 hour ban. Happens every day loovs!

[kirklancaster]

Idgi why are people RAGING over a few members getting a 24 hour ban. Happens every day loovs!

Read through the thread loove.

I don't get how you can applaud a post which condemns those banned and attributes this down to their 'tantrums', then suggest that you nothing about the subject matter by now asking "Why are people raging" etc?

[Cherie]

Idgi why are people RAGING over a few members getting a 24 hour ban. Happens every day loovs!

That is not the issue.

[Cherie]

oh and did everyone know that Josy is not an admin anymore I think I am correct in stating?

No I did not know this! Niamh or Vicky for Admin :dance: although I doubt they will want it.

[Nicky91]

i think mods went into invisible mode cause James is senior member either, same as Josy

and Niamh, Vicky, Dezzy were green and now normal



but tbh i had seen this coming, how heated it can get in serious debate

[Cherie]

Mod Strike

[Nicky91]

more like mod revolution in serious debates, i love hard working mods :lovedup:

[Jordan.]

Someone break the rules to see if they're just hiding :eyes:

[Nicky91]

Someone break the rules to see if they're just hiding :eyes:

no, and we just need to trust them that they are doing their job on here

[Cal.]

This forum suddenly feels a lot less fat?

[Vicky.]

:eyes:

[Niamh.]

:ninja2:

[Rob!]

eoufhhudhsdhuisdhu WHAT IS HAPPENING?!!?

[Ashley.]

:eyes:

:ninja2:

:laugh2:

[kirklancaster]

Kirk for Head Mod. (Free wines and spirits for ALL members. Free Holidays in any tropical paradise of their choice for ALL under 35's and free dentures and Bus Passes for the rest of us.)

[Cherie]

This forum suddenly feels a lot less fat?

33%

[RileyH]

Im so confused what's happening

[Cherie]

:eyes:

:ninja2:

:eyes:

[Rob!]

Omg the drama :flutter:

Spill girls

[Cherie]

Omg the drama :flutter:

Spill girls

a storyline for your next blockbuster

[Niamh.]

a storyline for your next blockbuster

:laugh:

[andybigbro]

While you’re all here, go vote in the avatar comp :hee:

[Ashley.]

While you’re all here, go vote in the avatar comp :hee:

:joker: I can't cope.

[Rob!]

So...is this a genuine rebellion on your part or are you trying to prove a point to us all? :laugh:

[Ashley.]

So...is this a genuine rebellion on your part or are you trying to prove a point to us all? :laugh:

I wouldn't be surprised if they've all just given up.

A bunch of people who can't follow simple rules get 24-hour bans and it's pitchforks out.

[Cherie]

I wouldn't be surprised if they've all just given up.

A bunch of people who can't follow simple rules get 24-hour bans and it's pitchforks out.

as previously stated the bans are not the main issue here

[Rob!]

I wouldn't be surprised if they've all just given up.

A bunch of people who can't follow simple rules get 24-hour bans and it's pitchforks out.

Considering how little support they receive from the admin, I wouldn't be surprised.

[RileyH]

While you’re all here, go vote in the avatar comp :hee:

:joker:

[Cherie]

Considering how little support they receive from the admin, I wouldn't be surprised.

This is part of this complex issue yes.

[RileyH]

I'll be a mod
https://i.imgur.com/aKLiCv7.gif

[Greg!]

:eyes:

:ninja2:

Why did you sack Josy

[Cal.]

:eyes:

:ninja2:

Not the BB team so broke they’ve had to get the TiBB mods to promo the BB19 eye reveal?

[Greg!]

WAIT omg just noticed Vicky and Niamh aren't mods anymore??

[Rob!]

Neither is Dezzy.

A cackle.

[Cal.]

Literally same

[Greg!]

Spill girlies x

[Cal.]

Legends x

[Nicky91]

i want more respect for the mods


they are doing so much hard work on here to keep this place clean and safe, and yet some still disobey the rules nevertheless


i'm so disappointed right now :(

[Tom4784]

:elephant: is SHAKING

[Cal.]

Ugh you all look so ugly not in green

[Jordan.]

can we talk about how there wouldn't be an elephant in the room if Alexandra Burke didn't invent the saying please

[Vicky.]

I wonder if I am allowed to insult people now I am no longer green. :eyes:

[RileyH]

:eyes:

[Cal.]

can we talk about how there wouldn't be an elephant in the room if Alexandra Burke didn't invent the saying please

Not Alexandra’s team suing Ammi

[Niamh.]

Ugh you all look so ugly not in green

My favourite part of being a mod was having a green name, because it's my favourite colour :bawling:

[Greg!]

can we talk about how there wouldn't be an elephant in the room if Alexandra Burke didn't invent the saying please

Queen of inventing phrases! Shakespeare whom?

[Tom4784]

I wonder if I am allowed to insult people now I am no longer green. :eyes:

The utter carnage that would flow if we stopped biting our tongues :worry:

[Tom4784]

Not Alexandra’s team suing Ammi

Our Ashley to represent Ammi in court?

[Rob!]

Dezzy without a leash :worry:

[Cal.]

I hope Marsh replaces Josy

[Greg!]

Are there any moderators at all atm or

[Nicky91]

My favourite part of being a mod was having a green name, because it's my favourite colour :bawling:

is it because there will be new mods? just a thought


sort of mod election day

[Ashley.]

-y0JOIFd3Qg

[Cal.]

We don’t want new mods everyone is vile here

[Ammi]

...:laugh:...the elephant leaving the room...?...


https://media.giphy.com/media/XtuJnVgjMr8re/giphy.gif


...I’m definately a black and white lady...:lovedup:...you all look fabulous guys...:hug:..

[RileyH]

I'm still confused

[Cal.]

I'm still confused

Shocker

[Ammi]

-y0JOIFd3Qg

...just a small but please and a coffee would be lovely...thank you Ashley my love..:love:..

[Rob!]

I'm still confused

And the sky is still blue.

[Kizzy]

I wouldn't be surprised if they've all just given up.

A bunch of people who can't follow simple rules get 24-hour bans and it's pitchforks out.

Nicely put Ashley, couldn't have said it better myself.

[Nicky91]

We don’t want new mods everyone is vile here

i wouldn't be a vile mod ;)

[Cal.]

i wouldn't be a vile mod ;)

And what about the brawls that happened after 6pm, Nicky? It’s just not plausible my love!

[Niamh.]

Honestly I think Ammi should just be in charge of everything :love:

[Ashley.]

...:laugh:...the elephant leaving the room...?...


https://media.giphy.com/media/XtuJnVgjMr8re/giphy.gif


...I’m definately a black and white lady...:lovedup:...you all look fabulous guys...:hug:..

The elephant's still running to this day

https://i.imgur.com/v74Xr7V.gif

[Nicky91]

Honestly I think Ammi should just be in charge of everything :love:

yep, Ammi along with you Niamh, Vicky, Dezzy, James, Andy, King Gizzard (Nathan)

the mod dream team :flutter:

[Rob!]

Honestly I think Ammi should just be in charge of everything :love:

This...is....Big...Brother...Forum...

incoming?

[Ammi]

Not Alexandra’s team suing Ammi

Our Ashley to represent Ammi in court?

...I’ve been following MB’s drag queen series...Ashley and I are ready for it Dezzy...we’re ready for that courtroom drama...


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[Vicky.]

I think the last time nathan did any modding was in 2014

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

can y’all update the forum leaders page bc josy/dezzy/niamh are still on it

[MTVN]

yep, Ammi along with you Niamh, Vicky, Dezzy, James, Andy, King Gizzard (Nathan)

the mod dream team :flutter:

The shade

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

can we have a list of remaining mods please :oh:

[Niamh.]

The shade

:hehe:

[Vicky.]

The shade

:laugh2:

[Niamh.]

can we have a list of remaining mods please :oh:

Yep, here :

.........

[MTVN]

can we have a list of remaining mods please :oh:

Just Red Moon now I think

[Vicky.]

can y’all update the forum leaders page bc josy/dezzy/niamh are still on it

can we have a list of remaining mods please :oh:

It seems you found it. They are the chosen ones. The rest of us are free

[Niamh.]

Just Red Moon now I think

30stone is coming back

[RileyH]

Yep, here :

.........

:joker:

[Kizzy]

Honestly I think Ammi should just be in charge of everything :love:

Ok... why are you black? :/

(not being racist or owt)

[Kizzy]

It seems you found it. They are the chosen ones. The rest of us are free

What the heck has happened here?...

I go to work for 2 days and everything goes to ****! :/

[Cherie]

Maru is coming :love:

[Cherie]

Yep, here :

.........

:joker:

[Vicky.]

What the heck has happened here?...

I go to work for 2 days and everything goes to ****! :/

In all honesty, I havent got a bloody clue.

[Nicky91]

what about the poor souls who have joined TiBB today? :sad:


they are thinking like what a mess

[Vicky.]

I think the only person to join today was a russian spammer. So, nevermind.

[Cherie]

I think the only person to join today was a russian spammer. So, nevermind.

:joker:

[Rob!]

I think the only person to join today was a russian spammer. So, nevermind.

Mod Putin is coming?

[Cal.]

That’s quite something

[caprimint]

What the hell has happened???

Why are there no mods anymore? :o

[Niamh.]

I think the only person to join today was a russian spammer. So, nevermind.

He said "I'm not putin up with this" and left :bawling:

[Kizzy]

In all honesty, I havent got a bloody clue.

Whatever it is just blame me ;)

Hope you're all ok x

[MTVN]

Think the idea is that by making our names black there won't be so much distinction between Mods and Members, nothing else has actually changed

[Cherie]

...:laugh:...the elephant leaving the room...?...


https://media.giphy.com/media/XtuJnVgjMr8re/giphy.gif


...I’m definately a black and white lady...:lovedup:...you all look fabulous guys...:hug:..

:laugh2:

[reece(:]

can we have a list of remaining mods please :oh:

Red Moon is coming!

[Cal.]

Think the idea is that by making our names black there won't be so much distinction between Mods and Members, nothing else has actually changed

Oh stunning!

[caprimint]

And Josy and James aren't purple anymore either :suspect:

Tbh I think all this is gonna do is create the argument that "we don't know who to PM now when we have a complaint" so it'll end up having more actual drama on the forum

[Vicky.]

People keep mentioning black names, they are blue to me :suspect:

[Vicky.]

And Josy and James aren't purple anymore either :suspect:

Tbh I think all this is gonna do is create the argument that "we don't know who to PM now when we have a complaint" so it'll end up having more actual drama on the forum

Yup

[Niamh.]

People keep mentioning black names, they are blue to me :suspect:

black for me

[Ashley.]

People keep mentioning black names, they are blue to me :suspect:

I'm seeing white and gold

[Nicky91]

Think the idea is that by making our names black there won't be so much distinction between Mods and Members, nothing else has actually changed

undercover mods instead of undercover boss :fan:

[caprimint]

Undercover_mole is probs still green too

[MTVN]

The forum leaders page still has all the Mods and Admin on there: http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showgroups.php

[Cal.]

Oh stunning news!

[Jordan.]

So what was the point in ditching the colour names if we all still know who the mods are :suspect:

[Cherie]

When did we last have this number of mods on board at this time of day :hehe:

[Ross.]

If I was a mod I’d be FUMING at my green name being snatched why are you all so relaxed

[caprimint]

Should replace Marc with someone now he's basically inactive

[Cal.]

I loved Marc’s Return for BB18 <3

[caprimint]

Should replace Marc with someone now he's basically inactive
LemonJam would be a good option

[Ninastar]

Maru and Livia for mods

[Nicky91]

oh maybe the mods wanted undercover field work rather than their job in the office

[Niamh.]

Should replace Marc with someone now he's basically inactive

Noooooooooooo Marc should be the only one who stays green :flutter:

[Nicky91]

my profile is green :smug:

[Tom4784]

If I was a mod I’d be FUMING at my green name being snatched why are you all so relaxed

Because I hate green.

/Michelle Visage

[Ninastar]

Because I hate green.

/Michelle Visage

Tbh you would suit purple

[Tom4784]

Tbh you would suit purple

The truth is I'm gonna promoted to being the new admin tbh. Tibb's golden age incoming?

[Ninastar]

The truth is I'm gonna promoted to being the new admin tbh. Tibb's golden age incoming?

I’m a little wet, ngl

[kirklancaster]

Yep, here :

.........

:joker: Anyone for a game of Join The Dots? :laugh:

[Nicky91]

me taking over from Dezzy's role as super moderator :love: while Dezzy gets a promotion

[kirklancaster]

Maru and Livia for mods

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Ninastar]

Oh no my dog died

[Barry.]

I’m with Riley H, confused.

[Ninastar]

My SIG Omfg

[Ninastar]

****ing autocorrect

[Ninastar]

I don’t have a dog anyway

[reece(:]

The truth is I'm gonna promoted to being the new admin tbh. Tibb's golden age incoming?

https://i.imgur.com/iRB4IqF.gif

[Nicky91]

aw Caitlin i'm sorry to hear that :(

[RileyH]

Oh no my dog died

My SIG Omfg

****ing autocorrect

I don’t have a dog anyway

hmm

[Tom4784]

hmm

A rollercoaster.

[Ninastar]

At least not anymore, THANKS FOR MAKING ME FEEL THE PAIN AGAIN

[Jordan.]

aw Caitlin i'm sorry to hear that :(

:skull:

[Ninastar]

It happened so fast, I’m heartbroken

[Shaun]

rePPQFm9fzY

[Ramsay]

yeah man, fight the power!

[Jason.]

I loved Marc’s Return for BB18 <3

An underrated king.

[Calderyon]

Wow. This is groundbreaking.

[AnnieK]

Well, this is new....

[Nicky91]

yeah man, fight the power!

very lovely to see you back on here :love:

[MB.]

Kate Bush :love:

[Lostie!]

Oh no my dog died

My SIG Omfg

aw Caitlin i'm sorry to hear that :(

:joker::joker::joker:

[Babayaro.]

lets not forget he was always smartly dressed, something that younger members on here would do well to note

@ me next time, fat!

[Babayaro.]

Should replace Marc with someone now he's basically inactive

A straight swap?

:eyes:

[kirklancaster]

A straight swap?

:eyes:

I'd go for that.

[Shaun]

A straight swap?

:eyes:

You can't even moderate your own shoe purchases you god damned mess.

[Nicky91]

You can't even moderate your own shoe purchases you god damned mess.

he would be a hot mod :laugh: :blush:

[Babayaro.]

You can't even moderate your own shoe purchases you god damned mess.

Enough of your lip bc you said you like my pink nikes, bitch!!

[kirklancaster]

You can't even moderate your own shoe purchases you god damned mess.

:laugh:

[Smithy]

rePPQFm9fzY

Literally me rn

[thesheriff443]

This may make some spit their tea out!, but dezzy is not that bad, I have seen that he does not get it all his own way and at times is as frustrated as the rest of us on here.

[smudgie]

Interesting list.
Once again I have missed the pesky drama of it all.
Serious question, do you automatically gather points towards infractions or bans if you are reported?
I honestly don't know how it works, didn't realise there was a point system and don't know if I have any points.
Maybe a little number next to our trophies under our avatar would keep us updated.:shrug:

[Cherie]

Interesting list.
Once again I have missed the pesky drama of it all.
Serious question, do you automatically gather points towards infractions or bans if you are reported?
I honestly don't know how it works, didn't realise there was a point system and don't know if I have any points.
Maybe a little number next to our trophies under our avatar would keep us updated.:shrug:

Can't imagine you ever getting an infraction Smudge :laugh:

[Smithy]

Oh y’all just changed name colour?

You bunch of attention *****s

[Mokka]

Oh y’all just changed name colour?

You bunch of attention *****s

:joker:

Leave it to Smithy to be the one to say what's really going on here.

Also... is now a good time to reinstate my campaign:

Smithy4Mod !!!!!

[smudgie]

Can't imagine you ever getting an infraction Smudge :laugh:

I have swore quite a bit lately Cherie:blush:

[Smithy]

:joker:

Leave it to Smithy to be the one to say what's really going on here.

Also... is now a good time to reinstate my campaign:

Smithy4Mod !!!!!

LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GlisteningMediocreBlackrussianterrier-size_restricted.gif

[Cherie]

I have swore quite a bit lately Cherie:blush:

why on earth aren't you on that ban list Lady, I shall report you immediately :laugh:

[smudgie]

why on earth aren't you on that ban list Lady, I shall report you immediately :laugh:

:rant:
:joker:

[Ninastar]

Momma why can’t I pm you

[Ninastar]

****. Sake.

Mokka*

I am never typing on my phone on here again

[Vicky.]

Interesting list.
Once again I have missed the pesky drama of it all.
Serious question, do you automatically gather points towards infractions or bans if you are reported?
I honestly don't know how it works, didn't realise there was a point system and don't know if I have any points.
Maybe a little number next to our trophies under our avatar would keep us updated.:shrug:

You dont get points just for being reported.

And no, you have none, ever :p

[RileyH]

Momma why can’t I pm you

****. Sake.

Mokka*

I am never typing on my phone on here again

:joker:

[Shaun]

Momma why can’t I pm you

Kq_Bao_AJDc

[Mokka]

****. Sake.

Mokka*

I am never typing on my phone on here again

I have to many stalkers... had to lock my account down my friend :fan:

[Ninastar]

Kq_Bao_AJDc

I legit just laughed/coughed at the same time

[Mokka]

Kq_Bao_AJDc

:joker::joker:

[Ninastar]

Well Mokka that’s just not good enough. I wanted to talk to you and I couldn’t

[Mokka]

Well Mokka that’s just not good enough. I wanted to talk to you and I couldn’t

Well for you I can make an exception lol...

[Withano]

i wouldn't be a vile mod ;)

Dear Withano,

You have received an infraction at ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums.

Reason: You implied Georgina wasn’t very rich

[Vicky.]

Oh y’all just changed name colour?

You bunch of attention *****s

We didnt do it..only admin can do stuff like that, and we are not exactly sure which changes are being made, but there will be change..it seems.

[smudgie]

You dont get points just for being reported.

And no, you have none, ever :p

I can sleep with a clear conscience tonight then:laugh:

[Vicky.]

Yeah miss goodie two shoes :hehe:

[smudgie]

Yeah miss goodie two shoes :hehe:

:joker: yes, but I have deep gouges in my tongue..from biting it so much.

[Cherie]

We didnt do it..only admin can do stuff like that, and we are not exactly sure which changes are being made, but there will be change..it seems.

Vicky to become Mother of TIBB, her worst nightmare :laugh:

[Rob!]

So can I ask - are all the admins and mods remaining the same?

Oh for a five second glance around Mod towers right now

[Kazanne]

Vicky to become Mother of TIBB, her worst nightmare :laugh:

Vicky and Niamh to be TIBB guardians.

[Shaun]

I haven't been the same colour as Niamh since we ill-advisedly blacked up for a Destiny's Child cover act with Jessica for Eurovision 2010.

[Vicky.]

OK this has gone on too long now and James has not been back to clarify anything so I think this is whats happening..I may be wrong for saying this on the main forum tbh but people have been speculating all day so meh..nothing in this post is definite though

Mods are staying the same for now but possibly we will all get our own sections to moderate. I think this may solve some of the problems we are currently having BUT...obviously we are not online all of the time so we may possibly be getting another mod or two. This is not for sure...but its being discussed. Something has to change, and this seems the best compromise.

This is just my own idea so probably will not happen, but I do think that mods should be able to be banned and such if needed. We technically can be but we don't really get infractions...and I do think that we should be able to as obviously we can snap and be nasty/insulting when in the wrong mood..same as members can do.

We are discussing bringing back the appeals section also. Again, it may not happen, its just an idea thats been floated.

We had a large conversation about all of this this morning and James started to make changes but then real life beckoned and we were left just wondering, basically.

I may be very very wrong for asking this...but any suggestions from members are also welcome (but try not to target specific staff or anything, to avoid this thread turning into another bitchfest). We are aware that there are big problems right now, and yeah, something has to change

[jet]

Thanks for posting Vicky. It's good to hear that positive changes are being discussed.

[Kazanne]

I think the appeals section is a good idea,some where, where we can TALK to someone about our concerns and if we think something is unfair we can say so without getting infracted etc.I also agree mods should be treated as members if they cross the line and can face bans,it makes sense really ,otherwise they can more or less insult anyone.

[jet]

I think the appeals section is a good idea,some where, where we can TALK to someone about our concerns and if we think something is unfair we can say so without getting infracted etc.

Yes, I was just about to add that. I think an appeals section is vital really.

[Kazanne]

Yes, I was just about to add that. I think an appeals section is vital really.

:wavey:

[Kazanne]

:joker: yes, but I have deep gouges in my tongue..from biting it so much.

:joker::joker:Love it

[kirklancaster]

OK this has gone on too long now and James has not been back to clarify anything so I think this is whats happening..I may be wrong for saying this on the main forum tbh but people have been speculating all day so meh..nothing in this post is definite though

Mods are staying the same for now but possibly we will all get our own sections to moderate. I think this may solve some of the problems we are currently having BUT...obviously we are not online all of the time so we may possibly be getting another mod or two. This is not for sure...but its being discussed. Something has to change, and this seems the best compromise.

This is just my own idea so probably will not happen, but I do think that mods should be able to be banned and such if needed. We technically can be but we don't really get infractions...and I do think that we should be able to as obviously we can snap and be nasty/insulting when in the wrong mood..same as members can do.

We are discussing bringing back the appeals section also. Again, it may not happen, its just an idea thats been floated.

We had a large conversation about all of this this morning and James started to make changes but then real life beckoned and we were left just wondering, basically.

I may be very very wrong for asking this...but any suggestions from members are also welcome (but try not to target specific staff or anything, to avoid this thread turning into another bitchfest). We are aware that there are big problems right now, and yeah, something has to change

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Thank you, Vicky, for these all sound like fair, reasoned and satisfactory proposals.

I for one think that if these are initiated then we all can move on from this whole sad, sorry mess.

[jet]

:wavey:

:wavey: :hee:

[Smithy]

Appeals section should never have been gotten rid of because of the few that abused it, they should have just been banned from using it so I think it’d be good to be brought back

[Withano]

I honestly think 90% of the problems stem from people entering the thread, avoiding the topic entirely, and discussing themselves or other members. Obviously discussing other members is gonna garner responses from several people, and its a huge mess from thereon in.

I think give this a harsher punishment, and your jobs done.

[Rob!]

The game is changing? :clap1:

[Calderyon]

Thank you for the explanation, Vicks. :)

[Cherie]

OK this has gone on too long now and James has not been back to clarify anything so I think this is whats happening..I may be wrong for saying this on the main forum tbh but people have been speculating all day so meh..nothing in this post is definite though

Mods are staying the same for now but possibly we will all get our own sections to moderate. I think this may solve some of the problems we are currently having BUT...obviously we are not online all of the time so we may possibly be getting another mod or two. This is not for sure...but its being discussed. Something has to change, and this seems the best compromise.

This is just my own idea so probably will not happen, but I do think that mods should be able to be banned and such if needed. We technically can be but we don't really get infractions...and I do think that we should be able to as obviously we can snap and be nasty/insulting when in the wrong mood..same as members can do.

We are discussing bringing back the appeals section also. Again, it may not happen, its just an idea thats been floated.

We had a large conversation about all of this this morning and James started to make changes but then real life beckoned and we were left just wondering, basically.

I may be very very wrong for asking this...but any suggestions from members are also welcome (but try not to target specific staff or anything, to avoid this thread turning into another bitchfest). We are aware that there are big problems right now, and yeah, something has to change

Sounds good Vicky, having different sections to moderate will suit different personalities as well so I think that would work.

Appeals section, never used it but I guess for those that did would be a welcome return.

Thanks to all for the consideration.

[Ashley.]

I honestly think 90% of the problems stem from people entering the thread, avoiding the topic entirely, and discussing themselves or other members. Obviously discussing other members is gonna garner responses from several people, and its a huge mess from thereon in.

I think give this a harsher punishment, and your jobs done.

I agree. But the thing is, it's largely the same people who regularly post in Serious Debates and give their views, so after a while you'll get the odd person who'll start using their views as a way to insult them. And then every thread ends up the same way, two groups of people arguing over a view that has nothing to do with the topic.

I'm not trying to set certain members apart from everybody else by saying that, but it's a common thing. In real life and real relationships too. After so many interactions with somebody you know what they like and what they don't and you know what to say to piss them off etc. It's natural. The problem is not knowing when you're crossing a line.

[Cherie]

I honestly think 90% of the problems stem from people entering the thread, avoiding the topic entirely, and discussing themselves or other members. Obviously discussing other members is gonna garner responses from several people, and its a huge mess from thereon in.

I think give this a harsher punishment, and your jobs done.

what like you constantly discussing Brillo, yes job done I agree

[Withano]

what like you constantly discussing Brillo, yes job done I agree

Ironic. But yes, if i entered a thread, much like you have, and started discussing forum members, much like you have, i think id deserve an infraction. Its not helpful or productive.

[Cherie]

Ironic. But yes, if i entered a thread, much like you have, and started discussing forum members, much like you have, i think id deserve an infraction. Its not helpful or productive.

well its not ironic really because on many occasions the first post in a thread by you is ..oh Brillo it was so much better when you were banned, so sit down.

[Withano]

well its not ironic really because on many occasions the first post in a thread by you is ..oh Brillo it was so much better when you were banned, so sit down.

:shrug: and that would deserve an infraction, its not helpful or productive. I dont see what youre doing now as much better tbh, id argue, under my rules im suggesting, that youd qualify for one here - it completely detracts from the discussion and brings up unnecessary drama.

[Cherie]

:shrug: and that would deserve an infraction, its not helpful or productive. I dont see what youre doing now as much better tbh, id argue, under my rules im suggesting, that youd qualify for one here - it completely detracts from the discussion and brings up unnecessary drama.

if I get an infraction so be it, its worth it. You started with the unnecessary drama so you should get one as well.

[Withano]

if I get an infraction so be it, its worth it. You started with the unnecessary drama so you should get one as well.

By suggesting that people bringing up forum members should retrieve a harsher punishment was me bringing up drama?!

It was you who quite ironically brought up other forum members in response to that.

I’d imagine the large majority of regular SD members have an example we can use of a time they brought up a forum member and detracted from the discussion.

I think it would be a good place to start if we’re hoping for change.