Trump arrives in UK Thursday 12th of July : Confirmed

[arista]

Ref: SkyNewsHD and LBC


Perfect day Friday the 13th

https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-uk-visit-date-confirmed-for-13-july-11347502
A Working Visit.

[GiRTh]

I hope we give him a war welcome :thumbs:

[arista]

I hope we give him a war welcome :thumbs:



Yes he will take Route B
(Due to possible terrorist attack etc)
So all those waiting to shout
will be left alone.
http://vchnews.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Shout-out-Asian-woman-507x300.jpg

[Underscore]

Ew

[Jack_]

I hope we give him a war welcome :thumbs:

Deliberate or? :joker:

[hijaxers]

Ref: SkyNewsHD and LBC


Perfect day Friday the 13th

https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-uk-visit-date-confirmed-for-13-july-11347502
A Working Visit.

Wow 2nd and last Fri 13th for this year bring it with a Trump

[GiRTh]

Deliberate or? :joker:Accidental but I'll keep it. :joker:

[Oliver_W]

You just know some childish morons will start rioting ...

"A politician I don't like is coming to the country, oh noes"

[Maru]

He's comiiing....

https://i.imgur.com/ijvhTcc.png

[arista]

He's comiiing....

https://i.imgur.com/ijvhTcc.png


Yes Perfect Picture Maru
its not a State Visit,
its a Working Visit
so he could even fly to Windsor to meet the Queen
if they choose.

[arista]

[Operation Protect Trump: 10,000 police and SAS will guard the President as he visits Blenheim Palace,
meets Theresa May at Chequers and the Queen at Windsor
while first lady Melania visits a children's hospital
Chief constables have cancelled rest days as they prepare for Mr Trump's visit
Up to 10,000 police officers will be drafted to in to protect the US president
But there are fears operation will leave other areas without adequate security ]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5878349/Operation-Protect-Trump-10-000-police-SAS-guard-President.html


Arriving at Stansted
clever move

[Cherie]

10,000 wow...that's alot

[arista]

10,000 wow...that's alot


Yes the problem is
some parts of the UK will have very few Police
on the day he visits.

[jaxie]

You just know some childish morons will start rioting ...

"A politician I don't like is coming to the country, oh noes"

And yet they don't bat an eye over the Chinese leader who recently made himself president for life. Dont want to get their fingers covered in chemicals when Putin and Bashad use them on the public. Oh dearie me we don't want to get involved in any of that. Or Mugabe when he was in power. People and priorities. :shrug:

My birthday is the same week, I hope he brings cake!

[Kizzy]

And yet they don't bat an eye over the Chinese leader who recently made himself president for life. Dont want to get their fingers covered in chemicals when Putin and Bashad use them on the public. Oh dearie me we don't want to get involved in any of that. Or Mugabe when he was in power. People and priorities. :shrug:

My birthday is the same week, I hope he brings cake!

How would you know what people 'bat eyes' over?...

When you witness a western superpower behaving like a autocratic tyrant such as those you mention, how are you meant to react?

[Tom4784]

And yet they don't bat an eye over the Chinese leader who recently made himself president for life. Dont want to get their fingers covered in chemicals when Putin and Bashad use them on the public. Oh dearie me we don't want to get involved in any of that. Or Mugabe when he was in power. People and priorities. :shrug:

My birthday is the same week, I hope he brings cake!

Oversimplification.

The US is basically our closest ally, if it's going in a direction we don't like then we are more than entitled to voice our disapproval.

I don't like this attitude of essentially degrading people's rights to protest through deflection.

[Tom4784]

You just know some childish morons will start rioting ...

"A politician I don't like is coming to the country, oh noes"

Another case of oversimplification to suit an agenda.

Most rioters are people who just use the situation to cause chaos and get their hands on some stolen goods. They rarely give a **** about the protest but it won't stop people from grouping them in with the actual protesters because they want a reason to oppose it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Great news that The Donald is coming to the UK.

[Kazanne]

You just know some childish morons will start rioting ...

"A politician I don't like is coming to the country, oh noes"

True Oliver,there will be so many dummies spat out people will be bouncing:hee:

[bots]

up till recently i would have moaned if there had been loud demonstrations against trump, but not now, the louder the better

[GiRTh]

This all depends on no one saying anything he objects too. Would love it if Sadiq Khan started a twitter war and thus Donnie cancelled. I hope Khan does it TBH

[Brillopad]

Another case of oversimplification to suit an agenda.

Most rioters are people who just use the situation to cause chaos and get their hands on some stolen goods. They rarely give a **** about the protest but it won't stop people from grouping them in with the actual protesters because they want a reason to oppose it.

That of course works both ways.

[Oliver_W]

How would you know what people 'bat eyes' over?...

When you witness a western superpower behaving like a autocratic tyrant such as those you mention, how are you meant to react?

Would an "autocratic tyrant" have faced multiple defeats from/made several concessions to the opposing party?

[GiRTh]

Would an "autocratic tyrant" have faced multiple defeats from/made several concessions to the opposing party?What are you referring to? :conf:

[Kizzy]

Would an "autocratic tyrant" have faced multiple defeats from/made several concessions to the opposing party?

It is very early days, Rome wasn't built in one, and Trump wont destroy democracy in one either.

[Alf]

QrrIRr9arkM

[GiRTh]

Donnie has ordered an investigation in to his political opponents and into the investigation that is investigating him. This is the type of thing we see from dictators in Banana Republics so Donnie has, without doubt, already threatened the constitutional and democratic process in the US, thank God there are checks and balances in place to prevent him from becoming the type of autocrat he clearly covets.

[Brillopad]

Donnie has ordered an investigation in to his political opponents and into the investigation that is investigating him. This is the type of thing we see from dictators in Banana Republics so Donnie has, without doubt, already threatened the constitutional and democratic process in the US, thank God there are checks and balances in place to prevent him from becoming the type of autocrat he clearly covets.

Well that’s it exactly. With all the talk of Nazis and dictators there are systems in place to prevent a repeat of such things in the West today. I would think that those that oppose Trump as President would be happy at his behaviour as it is just likely to bring him to the end sooner rather than later if it continues. If he was doing something seriously wrong I don’t believe it would go unchecked. His days are likely to be numbered but just as long as that doesn’t leave America with Clinton as it would be no better off in my opinion.

[Oliver_W]

What are you referring to? :conf:
Just use google to prove my point for me/dezzy

Nah I'll give you three: he was beaten on the muslim ban, the repeal of Obamacare, and the Wall is spinning its wheels.

It is very early days, Rome wasn't built in one, and Trump wont destroy democracy in one either.
What are the signs that Trump will "destroy democracy" ?

[GiRTh]

Well that’s it exactly. With all the talk of Nazis and dictators there are systems in place to prevent a repeat of such things in the West today. I would think that those that oppose Trump as President would be happy at his behaviour as it is just likely to bring him to the end sooner rather than later if it continues. If he was doing something seriously wrong I don’t believe it would go unchecked. His days are likely to be numbered but just as long as that doesn’t leave America with Clinton as it would be no better off in my opinion.
The thing is, he had a lost of support for both investigations he wanted to start. There were many people who wanted to give him the power to simply investigate someone he didnt like without a lick of evidence. Whats happening in the US is rather scary and what is most scary is the lack of resistance from the GOP establishment. Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell these guys wouldn't shut the hell up when Obama was in power, yet now deafeningly silent.

[GiRTh]

Just use google to prove my point for me/dezzy

Nah I'll give you three: he was beaten on the muslim ban, the repeal of Obamacare, and the Wall is spinning its wheels.


What are the signs that Trump will "destroy democracy" ?Yeah already answered you. But Donnie is definitely trying to get around those annoying check and balances. Thank god the US is indeed a democracy but he's trying to change that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah already answered you. But Donnie is definitely trying to get around those annoying check and balances. Thank god the US is indeed a democracy but he's trying to change that.

and it was that pesky democracy that got him elected..

[Tom4784]

That of course works both ways.

A vague response that doesn't really offer anything to the conversation and, in the context of the post you replied to, it doesn't make much sense and makes it sound like you're defending rioters? It's unclear.

[Tom4784]

and it was that pesky democracy that got him elected..

Yup, he has shown that anyone can come into power if you get enough idiots to believe the fairy tales you spin.

[Alf]

Yup, he has shown that anyone can come into power if you get enough idiots to believe the fairy tales you spin.You are correct in most of what you say there. But you know deep down that Trump isn't the only person ever to show us this, don't you?

[Tom4784]

You are correct in most of what you say there. But you know deep down that Trump isn't the only person ever to show us this, don't you?

Yup, it's just annoying how people never learn from the past.

[montblanc]

you guys can keep him thanks :)

[arista]

you guys can keep him thanks :)


No he is on a big busy Euro tour
as well,
telling Nato to Fund Itself.

We are just one day

[montblanc]

No he is on a big busy Euro tour
as well,
telling Nato to Fund Itself.

We are just one day

UGH

[Tom4784]

you guys can keep him thanks :)

No dumping your trash on our soil!

[jaxie]

It is very early days, Rome wasn't built in one, and Trump wont destroy democracy in one either.

It was democracy that elected Trump. You can't cherry pick to ignore it if it doesn't suit you. :shrug:

[montblanc]

No dumping your trash on our soil!

:hehe:

[Tom4784]

It was democracy that elected Trump. You can't cherry pick to ignore it if it doesn't suit you. :shrug:

And you can't choose to ignore how democracy can be corrupted either nor can you ignore Russia's interference in the election itself but here you are doing exactly that.

[arista]

It was democracy that elected Trump. You can't cherry pick to ignore it if it doesn't suit you. :shrug:


Bang On Right jaxie

[arista]

And you can't choose to ignore how democracy can be corrupted either nor can you ignore Russia's interference in the election itself but here you are doing exactly that.


Hang on
Dezzy

That has Feck all to do with President Trump
No Collusion



Its Like Neo Nazi Voters
Trump can not stop them.

Also Trump never says Sorry
he moves on.

[Brillopad]

A vague response that doesn't really offer anything to the conversation and, in the context of the post you replied to, it doesn't make much sense and makes it sound like you're defending rioters? It's unclear.

I certainly am not defending rioters - simply pointing out that the thugs on the left don’t need much excuse for violence. Thugs are thugs whatever their politics but I don’t see you making the same noises about left-wing thugs.

[GiRTh]

and it was that pesky democracy that got him elected..
And he's already taken unprecedented steps to get around the democratic process, so lets talk about how much he respects the democracy and people that got him elected.

[user104658]

It was democracy that elected Trump. You can't cherry pick to ignore it if it doesn't suit you. :shrug:The US was officially downgraded from a "full democracy" to a "flawed democracy" so... It was a flawed democracy that elected trump. So yes, you can choose to believe that that result was undemocratic and still believe in working democracies.

[bots]

just because there is a democratic vote doesnt mean that a country gets a good leader. One has to look at the range of available choices along the way and what flawed people ended up being the final 2 available. Clinton was highly disliked by an awful lot of people before politics even entered the equation.

There is evidence of Russian collusion too, it will all come home to roost at some point.

[Tom4784]

I certainly am not defending rioters - simply pointing out that the thugs on the left don’t need much excuse for violence. Thugs are thugs whatever their politics but I don’t see you making the same noises about left-wing thugs.

Or you're confusing opportunistic rioters for protesters in order to push your crusade against the left, that's more likely.

[Brillopad]

Or you're confusing opportunistic rioters for protesters in order to push your crusade against the left, that's more likely.

So no such thing as opportunistic right-wing rioters then. Is isn’t me being unbalanced in my comments on rioters and only making negative comments on so-called right-wing rioters. Apparently those of the left-wing variety don’t exist. Sometimes a bit of balance needs injecting into such a scenario. Talking of political crusades ...

[Tom4784]

So no such thing as opportunistic right-wing rioters then. Is isn’t me being unbalanced in my comments on rioters and only making negative comments on so-called right-wing rioters. Apparently those of the left-wing variety don’t exist. Sometimes a bit of balance needs injecting into such a scenario. Talking of political crusades ...

So you're taking something I have not said and shoving it down my throat. This seems like a reasonable approach to discussion.....

Is there any point of me saying anything if you're just gonna reply to whatever you imagined I've said?

[Brillopad]

So you're taking something I have not said and shoving it down my throat. This seems like a reasonable approach to discussion.....

Is there any point of me saying anything if you're just gonna reply to whatever you imagined I've said?

It was what you were suggesting as you have only acknowledged the existence of those on the left. You always speak as though rioters, opportunistic or otherwise, are only a right-wing issue. Both have their troublemakers.

[Tom4784]

It was what you were suggesting as you have only acknowledged the existence of those on the left. You always speak as though rioters, opportunistic or otherwise, are only a right-wing issue. Both have their troublemakers.

Actually you are completely wrong. I've said that most rioters are opportunistic, I never actually specifically said anything about the left and I didn't say it didn't apply to the right either.

Once again, you've responded, not to what I actually wrote but what you imagined I wrote. I'm getting quite tired of it, you need to work on knowing the difference between what people actually write and mean and what you want them to mean because your entire argument in this thread rests on your incorrect assumption.

[Brillopad]

Actually you are completely wrong. I've said that most rioters are opportunistic, I never actually specifically said anything about the left and I didn't say it didn't apply to the right either.

Once again, you've responded, not to what I actually wrote but what you imagined I wrote. I'm getting quite tired of it, you need to work on knowing the difference between what people actually write and mean and what you want them to mean because your entire argument in this thread rests on your incorrect assumption.

Not imagined - it is called reading between the lines of what is said, what is not said and what is suggested. As a mod on this site for many years you are well aware of that as you are pretty good at misinterpreting other peoples’ words when it suits. Pot and kettle over and over again. Same ol, same ol. :wavey:

[Tom4784]

Not imagined - it is called reading between the lines of what is said, what is not said and what is suggested. As a mod on this site for many years you are well aware of that as you are pretty good at misinterpreting other peoples’ words when it suits. Pot and kettle over and over again. Same ol, same ol. :wavey:

There's reading between the lines and then there's making up what I've said to suit your argument. You're guilty of the latter.

And of course you include a personal attack. Can't just admit you're wrong, can you?

[jaxie]

And you can't choose to ignore how democracy can be corrupted either nor can you ignore Russia's interference in the election itself but here you are doing exactly that.

So thrilled by your ability to read my mind on what you think I ignore. Very talented of you. Do you juggle as well?

[Brillopad]

There's reading between the lines and then there's making up what I've said to suit your argument. You're guilty of the latter.

And of course you include a personal attack. Can't just admit you're wrong, can you?

Coz I’m not! Funny that I have just read a post about you attempting to read peoples’ minds and putting words in mouths.. A pattern and a long-standing one at that.

[Marsh.]

You just know some childish morons will start rioting ...

"A politician I don't like is coming to the country, oh noes"

Yes, because he's simply a politician they don't like.

He's not the POTUS and having ramifications across the world or anything silly like that. :hugesmile:

[Tom4784]

So thrilled by your ability to read my mind on what you think I ignore. Very talented of you. Do you juggle as well?

You made out that it was democracy that elected Trump whilst failing to mention the dubious aspects of the election or the fact that the democratic process is not immune to being corrupted even if someone was elected.

Coz I’m not! Funny that I have just read a post about you attempting to read peoples’ minds and putting words in mouths.. A pattern and a long-standing one at that.

Aw, thank you for admitting you were wrong, I appreciate it.

[user104658]

SD's is a dumpster fire today :joker:

[Brillopad]

You made out that it was democracy that elected Trump whilst failing to mention the dubious aspects of the election or the fact that the democratic process is not immune to being corrupted even if someone was elected.



Aw, thank you for admitting you were wrong, I appreciate it.

:crazy: :pat: Always knew you were totally deluded.

[Tom4784]

:crazy: :pat: Always knew you were totally deluded.

Hey, I'm just reading between the lines, I learned from the master after all.

Life is pretty great when you delude yourself into reading things that aren't there, thanks for teaching me that.

Oh and thank you for telling me that I'm your favourite mod, it's always nice to be appreciated :love:

[Brillopad]

Hey, I'm just reading between the lines, I learned from the master after all.

Life is pretty great when you delude yourself into reading things that aren't there, thanks for teaching me that.

Oh and thank you for telling me that I'm your favourite mod, it's always nice to be appreciated :love:

I’m sure you’re everyones favourite mod! :smug:

[Maru]

The US was officially downgraded from a "full democracy" to a "flawed democracy" so... It was a flawed democracy that elected trump. So yes, you can choose to believe that that result was undemocratic and still believe in working democracies.

The US is Republic, not a "flawed" Democracy. Democracy would allow mob rule whereas a Republic protects minority representation. Ironically, a system that its detractors would be fawning over if they were the majority in the fly-over states...

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Democracy_vs_Republic

[Tom4784]

I’m sure you’re everyones favourite mod! :smug:

I am, aren't I?

[user104658]

The US is Republic, not a "flawed" Democracy. Democracy would allow mob rule whereas a Republic protects minority representation. Ironically, a system that its detractors would be fawning over if they were the majority in the fly-over states...

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Democracy_vs_Republic

A Republic is a type of Democracy :think:.

The part in bold is a large part of what makes it flawed.

[bots]

The US is Republic, not a "flawed" Democracy. Democracy would allow mob rule whereas a Republic protects minority representation. Ironically, a system that its detractors would be fawning over if they were the majority in the fly-over states...

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Democracy_vs_Republic

A flawed democracy is what it is though. This is about democratic systems, and they have been downgraded for the USA

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/america-democracy-rated-donald-trump-not-fully-democratic-us-president-report-the-economist-a8195121.html

[Maru]

A Republic is a type of Democracy :think:.

The part in bold is a large part of what makes it flawed.

The frustration is a wonderful sign that it's working. Both parties have authoritative streaks that should be quelled. For example, Trump is frustrated that he can't light up the system with executive orders like a Christmas tree. Democrats are unhappy they can't abolish the Republicans outright and establish a full-fledged democracy for themselves with full Federal oversight. It's designed that way to discourage authorianism and to protect our individual rights.

[Maru]

A flawed democracy is what it is though. This is about democratic systems, and they have been downgraded for the USA

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/america-democracy-rated-donald-trump-not-fully-democratic-us-president-report-the-economist-a8195121.html

I think foreign media often misses the mark when it tries to make assumptions about the tensions in our culture. Our founding philosophy was never meant to place high trust in institutions. I would say in fact, usually the opposite is encouraged in our culture. We are a country of rebels, through and through. The Constitution is where we derive our most basic individual rights, however much the underlying system may change overtime and become unrecognizeable from one another, that's supposed to be the glue to keep it's all working as intended, even when we have had major strife (i.e. Civil Rights era, Civil War, etc...)

If there are perceived elements in govt or culture trying to take the bull by the horns and reign in our system in such a way to undermine our Constitution's inalienable rights, then our culture was almost certainly going to fall against those expectations and push back against its own institutions... that's not a sign of erosion of our system, in my eyes, as the goal of an easy peace and an efficient govt was never the promise of our Founders. They designed the system in such a way that they had the foresight that any institution, no matter how well designed it is or how high it's intentions may be will almost always fall prey to corruption/tyranny. Their expectation was that citizens alone were the only ones who could be held responsible for protecting their own rights, which is why we have the kind of democracy we have.. because the idea of a incorruptible system is an illusion, which is why our relationship individual rights are so well-connected to our country's pulse and why so people are so attached to our Constitution... especially amendments like 1A and 2A. 2A is meant to protect 1A, because we can always uprise, whereas without 2A, 1A could be taken in a heartbeat...

It's never been solely about which person's rhetoric is more inflammatory and the pursuit of the perfect system. It's a bit more complicated than all that... I think all our generations have gone through some sort of growing pains, as it relates to this, as they wonder why can't it be so easy to just elect the perfect Marvel dream team to solve all our pains and ails... that was never the aspiration of our Founders and the younguns only need to read into our history to learn that the responsibilities fall on them and not our institutions to solve their issues. (edit x2)

[bots]

Hi Maru, I appreciate your thoughts and explanations, but these are metrics used to measure things. You may not agree with their methods of measurement, but they sit there as a method of comparing one country against another etc. Looking from the outside I have seen a big change in the USA in recent times, it is no longer a bench mark that others would aspire to, far from it. I think that manifests itself with these metrics.

The current Trump administration are hell bent on bringing down the establishment. Lying to the people they are supposed to represent. Trying to dictate that the absurd be the new gold standard. If this group weren't in power it would be completely different, but they are in power and so very much do threaten democratic values.

[Brillopad]

I am, aren't I?

I'm sure you would like to be.

[Tom4784]

I'm sure you would like to be.

Aw, thank you for all your compliments.

(I can see why you like to 'read between the lines' ignoring what's been written to make up your own version of what's been said is addictive!)

[Crimson Dynamo]

I hope he comes home to the motherland

play a bit of golf too


:fc:

[Tom4784]

I hope he comes home to the motherland

play a bit of golf too


:fc:

It's about time he pays a visit to his boss tbh.

[Maru]

Hi Maru, I appreciate your thoughts and explanations, but these are metrics used to measure things. You may not agree with their methods of measurement, but they sit there as a method of comparing one country against another etc. Looking from the outside I have seen a big change in the USA in recent times, it is no longer a bench mark that others would aspire to, far from it. I think that manifests itself with these metrics.

The current Trump administration are hell bent on bringing down the establishment. Lying to the people they are supposed to represent. Trying to dictate that the absurd be the new gold standard. If this group weren't in power it would be completely different, but they are in power and so very much do threaten democratic values.

Thank God, Bits. I've always disliked the idea of the hero US being held up as some sort of rubric in the way of a "benchmark". I think every country has its issues, its own culture, and for that reason, it's super awkward for me to feel I can compare one to one so simply and easily. Even in the West, our cultures differ quite considerably.. but it can't always be compare everything to the US. We are not infallible. That was always a recipe for disappointment imo with the growing pains of a rebellious culture that would soon gain access to the quick firing information power of the internet. We're a culture of sh** stirrers, for better or worse. :laugh:

I always thought it was kind of funny too that the liberals here will act as though they're more emotionally reserved than the other. Except they too are rife with this rebel blood. Both factions have a common thread in rebellion and toward opposition.

Anyway on the topic of rubrics, one of most damaging aspects of the modern Western culture imo is the narcissism that is baked into this idea of We are better. It assumes we're always the benchmark. So ridiculous, because I think even the West is not perfect and is capable of some seriously heinous practices. Our ignorance of the externalities we create being one of our biggest flaws.

I think it's also finally time our culture in the US faced the music on a lot of things in this area. So actually, Trump is good in that he forces us now to turn towards ourselves and give a hard look at our flaws, actually look at them for a change. Not just the grandoise vision of our culture, but along the lines of what the Founders predicted could happen if we went too far with idealistic promises and fantasty logic. Imo, our system, as it has been designed has a fair bit of room to absorb Trump Syndrome...

I generally think we have a tendency to oversimplify politics in the West and the way cultures work, and I think a large part of that is due to the narcissism that often comes baked into Western culture... when actually, self-awareness is a major flaw of the West and is our single largest blindspot. That is why I think all that has transpired... is my opinion.

[arista]

Revealed: Donald Trump to avoid protests during UK visit
The US president - making his first trip to the UK since being elected - will stay out of London for the majority of his stay.

https://news.sky.com/story/revealed-donald-trump-to-avoid-protests-during-uk-visit-11428346

[Brillopad]

Ref: SkyNewsHD and LBC


Perfect day Friday the 13th

https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-uk-visit-date-confirmed-for-13-july-11347502
A Working Visit.

All those spiteful haters baying for blood. If it wasn’t so inappropriate it would be hilarious. :shrug:

[Kizzy]

He'll be there meeting may at Blenheim palace and liz at winsor castle, then off to Scotland.

[arista]

The Media is now claiming Trump arrives in the UK on Thursday 12th now, next week.
Of course he is at Brussels Nato EU summit this week

[Kazanne]

10,000 wow...that's alot

It's a shame we have to do things like this really, too many nutters roaming free.

[arista]

Trump says Britain 'in turmoil' ahead of UK trip

https://news.sky.com/story/live-new-cabinet-meets-as-embattled-pm-fights-on-11431655

He even wants to meet Boris
on his UK trip.

[Tom4784]

Considering his own precarious position, a certain phrase about stones in glass houses comes to mind.

[arista]

Considering his own precarious position, a certain phrase about stones in glass houses comes to mind.


Yes he even said live
outside the White House
"Who would think, out of Nato EU , UK in somewhat Turmoil and Putin"
"Frankly Putin is the easiest of all"

[Tom4784]

Yes he even said live
outside the White House
"Who would think, out of Nato EU , UK in somewhat Turmoil and Putin"
"Frankley Putin is the easiest of all"

He can't exactly speak bad about his boss, after all.

[chuff me dizzy]

All those spiteful haters baying for blood. If it wasn’t so inappropriate it would be hilarious. :shrug:

Its a disgrace to our country to greet the President of the USA in this childish way

[Tom4784]

Its a disgrace to our country to greet the President of the USA in this childish way

It's undemocratic to try to devalue people's right to protest.

[Tom4784]

Bit of a pussy move for him to avoid London though. As ever, he is all talk and no trousers.

[arista]

He can't exactly speak bad about his boss, after all.


He likes Putin. Sure Dezzy
but he is not having anyone above him like Vlad.

[arista]

Bit of a pussy move for him to avoid London though. As ever, he is all talk and no trousers.

He has no time for Protesters.

The Golf Course in Scotland
will have more cops around it
than anyone else etc.

[arista]

They are saying he arrives in the UK just after mid day at Stansted Airport
The Blow up Baby Trump is due to go up over Westminster
tomorrow.

[Oliver_W]

I feel sorry for people who have cars, businesses, or homes in London :( I hope the "protestors" can control themselves.

[Matthew.]

The Blow up Baby Trump is due to go up over Westminster tomorrow.

:clap1:

[bots]

I'm sure everyone is (secretly) hoping for a Trump twitter meltdown. Wonder if we will get our wish :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

I'm sure everyone is (secretly) hoping for a Trump twitter meltdown. Wonder if we will get our wish :laugh:

He doesn't care, he'd be more likely to take a selfie with it in the background if it passed by a part of sky visible to him #narcissist

[bots]

He doesn't care, he'd be more likely to take a selfie with it in the background if it passed by a part of sky visible to him #narcissist

Actually, i think he cares a lot. For those not aware, the origins of all this stem from his aides saying the only way they could get his attention was by appearing on the TV. When Trump heard this he had a meltdown ... lots of swearing etc along the lines of "are you calling me a ****ing baby" .... so it has history :laugh:

[Tom4784]

I feel sorry for people who have cars, businesses, or homes in London :( I hope the "protestors" can control themselves.

It's a bit disingenuous to blame protesters for the actions of opportunists, if anything does happen at the protest, I can guarantee it won't likely be because of the actual protesters.

[Twosugars]

Acc. to the news yesterday, the balloon raised so much money, they plan to tour it around the world, sometimes following Trump. :laugh:

fingers crossed the balloon has nice weather tomorrow :dance:

[arista]

Acc. to the news yesterday, the balloon raised so much money, they plan to tour it around the world, sometimes following Trump. :laugh:

fingers crossed the balloon has nice weather tomorrow :dance:


Yes I would think if it gets to the USA
a simple sniper, far away from it will fire a bullet at it.
No Joke

[Twosugars]

Yes I would think if it gets to the USA
a simple sniper, far away from it will fire a bullet at it.
No Joke

should be easy enough to repair

[bots]

should be easy enough to repair

puncture repair kit .... easy :laugh:

[arista]

should be easy enough to repair


Sure
then another far away sniper in USA
will be ready.

[arista]

President Trump is about to land at Stansted Airport
for his 4 day UK Visit.

[Matthew.]

he’s just landed and i already want him to **** off.

[Twosugars]

Sure
then another far away sniper in USA
will be ready.

so they will repair it again

[bots]

The Scottish police have been asked for permission to fly the balloon in Scotland :hehe:

[Twosugars]

that balloon will be booked up solid very soon

[arista]

so they will repair it again

how nice

[Greg!]

Melania looks preggers

[arista]

that balloon will be booked up solid very soon


I think the permission was for tomorrow for 2 hours.

[Twosugars]

Melania looks preggers

security guard?

[Twosugars]

I think the permission was for tomorrow for 2 hours.

those things can't fly for very long

[arista]

those things can't fly for very long


Sure but 2 hours was given the time for it.

[arista]

Trumps is landing by helicopter
at Winifred House
which has had fast fencing around it.

[Greg!]

Screaming at Leanne Wood sticking her oar in :laugh2:

[Matthew.]

oh i forgot melania was coming too
is his kid coming too?

[arista]

oh i forgot melania was coming too
is his kid coming too?


No I do not think the kid son
is on this trip.

[arista]

Any Pots and Pans
Protest's will be far away from Trump.

Security is High
in case a shooter is around

[Greg!]

Ian Paisley is a nutter :skull:

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/-zmNV0EvYGmaXReOYGhj3w/https/d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/h7oBqN4QXWqMNb1dJiTQ_GettyImages-997031722.jpg
Meeting MP Liam Fox
over a hour ago

[Denver]

Was Raph cheering him?

[Marsh.]

Was Raph cheering him?:joker:

[arista]

Was Raph cheering him?

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGIZInqHMPocxdm/giphy.gif

[arista]

:joker:

http://cdn.bbspy.co.uk/images/uploads/2017/06/bb18_launch_11raphael.jpg

[Kazanne]

The Scottish police have been asked for permission to fly the balloon in Scotland :hehe:

No bots ,it's English,you can't have it,joke,before anyone starts

[arista]

[Sadiq Khan's message to protesters

Mr Khan said: "My message to those coming to the protests in London
is that this must be peaceful and good-spirited. To those intent on causing
trouble or breaking the law, I simply say: you are not welcome]

[Kizzy]

[Sadiq Khan's message to protesters

Mr Khan said: "My message to those coming to the protests in London
is that this must be peaceful and good-spirited. To those intent on causing
trouble or breaking the law, I simply say: you are not welcome]

Can I add the only protesters with a curfew are the pro trump ones due to the violence on the 9th june?...

[GiRTh]

Has he gone yet?

[arista]

[IMG]https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/HAY55IG3t37YTIkltn96pg/https/d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/epXe1F9jS6ighOO3weJv_GettyImages-997032914.jpg[/IMG

The bridge
Near the new USA Embassy
Banner from Amnesty

[arista]

Has he gone yet?

1st day of a 4 day visit

[Oliver_W]

Can I add the only protesters with a curfew are the pro trump ones due to the violence on the 9th june?...

It's a bit disingenuous to blame protesters for the actions of opportunists, if anything does happen at the protest, I can guarantee it won't likely be because of the actual protesters.

[GiRTh]

1st day of a 4 day visitWhy not make it a week. Whats he going to do , whos he going to insult for 4 days?

[arista]

Why not make it a week. Whats he going to do , whos he going to insult for 4 days?


Its 4 days
as then he meets Putin.
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342822

[MTVN]

When's the first round of golf?

[arista]

When's the first round of golf?

last 2 days
I think

[arista]

Security costs around £10 million

As for the pots and pans protesters
at one side of the Park
around 15 or 20.

[Beso]

The great unwashed out in force today....get a bloody job you money sucking idle morons.

[arista]

Tonight
President Trump to meet a Business Leaders
and some MP's tonight at a special event.

https://e3.365dm.com/18/07/536x302/skynews-trump-melania_4360164.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180712153625
President Trump with his younger Wife.

Also :
Nigel Farage has sated its a red line
for Trump to meet him again.
PM May insuring no embarrassment for her ?

[Kazanne]

Oh look there they all are getting their cameras out as the news cameras are there, oh they might be on TV for 2 seconds:laugh::laugh: what a waste of time and resources.

[Kazanne]

Security costs around £1 million

As for the pots and pans protesters
at one side of the Park
around 15 or 20.

What a waste of good money just because some are throwing a tantrum that the big bad American is here :laugh: that money could have gone to something worthwhile.

[Cherie]

Looks like he is flying everywhere in a military plane so he won't see any protesters and he will be above the blimp

[arista]

Sorry its £10million for Security costs for 4days

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.arabnews.com/sites/default/files/styles/n_670_395/public/2018/07/12/1251356-289086694.jpg?itok=mxpHIIM5

The UK welcomes Donald and the First Lady

:clap1:

[arista]

Looks like he is flying everywhere in a military plane so he won't see any protesters and he will be above the blimp

Not up until Friday.


Yes the Helicopter
has anti missile tech gear.

[Kazanne]

Sorry its £10million for Security costs for 4days

All wasted imo,

[Crimson Dynamo]

He is playing Turnberry

classic

[bots]

All wasted imo,

not really, we should try our utmost to ensure no-one tries to take him out on UK soil :laugh:

[Kazanne]

not really, we should try our utmost to ensure no-one tries to take him out on UK soil :laugh:

Well yes I guess there is someone nuts enough to do that,:wavey:

[Twosugars]

hope the Queen's security watch him in case he wants to grab her by the pussy
:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

hope the Queen's security watch him in case he wants to grab her by the pussy
:joker:

dont be disrespectful

[Twosugars]

Looks like he is flying everywhere in a military plane so he won't see any protesters and he will be above the blimp

they'd never let him see it live
yesterday US ambassador said that Trump knows about the balloon. He will see it on tv, that's good enough:laugh:

[Maru]

http://www.arabnews.com/sites/default/files/styles/n_670_395/public/2018/07/12/1251356-289086694.jpg?itok=mxpHIIM5

The UK welcomes Donald and the First Lady

:clap1:

Who is the guy on the right with the Deal with It shades

[arista]

He is off in his copter
now , to the business meeting & dinner in Oxfordshire

[bots]

Who is the guy on the right with the Deal with It shades

looks like a lawyer :laugh:

[Twosugars]

dont be disrespectful

oh dear, dear :laugh:

blame your idol for bringing up this type of behaviour

[Twosugars]

2 day official visit, plenty of time for the orange twat to say something stupid, I'm perched

[Marsh.]

Who is the guy on the right with the Deal with It shades

Looks like Ryan Murphy.

Apparently, the whole thing has just been an extra long American Horror Story!

[arista]

2 day official visit, plenty of time for the orange twat to say something stupid, I'm perched


its 4 days

[Twosugars]

its 4 days
even better
he should come over more often, for the entertainment value

[arista]

Trump has landed
at Blenheim Palace, Oxfordshire
for his Business and MP's Dinner

https://e3.365dm.com/18/07/536x302/skynews-donald-trump-melania_4360464.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180712191905

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dh7N2DfX4Aojo7M?format=jpg&name=small

https://news.sky.com/story/live-trump-brushes-off-uk-protests-they-like-me-a-lot-11434086

[Oliver_W]

maybe people should wave bits of cardboard around, with words and pictures on. so much might change.

[arista]

Who is the guy on the right with the Deal with It shades


Woody Johnson
his rich mate.
The UK based USA Ambassador


Trump is staying at Woody's
house - all Fenced off & safe.

[Greg!]

Omg this is all so OTT and embarrassing. Talk about licking his arse cos we're that desperate for a trade deal.

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/Va8NzqQsH1B-7M35JGLi9g/https/d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/ANMC1YTQfycpeB6fcHtQ_Trump%20and%20May%20Blenheim% 20Palace_frame_2039_DME23.jpg


Trump and Wife
PM and husband

[arista]

Omg this is all so OTT and embarrassing. Talk about licking his arse cos we're that desperate for a trade deal.


Its normal.

[Crimson Dynamo]

so far its been a celebration

great to see

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh dear, dear :laugh:

blame your idol for bringing up this type of behaviour

so you just copy what you think Donald does?

that is quite sad

[Mystic Mock]

Omg this is all so OTT and embarrassing. Talk about licking his arse cos we're that desperate for a trade deal.

Donald Fart knows this and will probably be very smug about the trade deal he is gonna give us.

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/RghqHAqD3vuy6xSFnYkxEg/https/d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/3QbUefAmTeSqXbrVqF6E_18815253-1.jpg
Some Protesters

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/GUM6elIR7nb-XSIfVAAz2w/https/d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/ULZW6rFNQLeVJpBOG4rS_Trump%20-%20Blenheim%20Palace%20protester_frame_2268_DME23. jpg
A student protestor

[bots]

a student protester diluting the message and making it pointless

[Crimson Dynamo]

the protestors have the lowest irony radar in the UK

you literary cant make these morons up

:laugh2:

[Matthew.]

omg he DOES have tiny hands doesn’t he?

[Kazanne]

Donald Fart knows this and will probably be very smug about the trade deal he is gonna give us.

Why should he give us anything when he is treated like a leper, and is the Donald fart anymore mature than he is?

[Mystic Mock]

Why should he give us anything when he is treated like a leper, and is the Donald fart anymore mature than he is?

Playing with the surname is just an immature joke of mine, thankfully I'm not the President of the United States like this clown is.

The UK and the USA have really done a number on ourselves with the choices that our voters have made during the GE.

[Marsh.]

Why should he give us anything when he is treated like a leper

:facepalm:

[Twosugars]

so you just copy what you think Donald does?

that is quite sad

:conf: copy? Am I going round grabbing your pussy?
LT I'm getting concerned about you lately :shrug: not your usual sharp self are you

[Kazanne]

:conf: copy? Am I going round grabbing your pussy?
LT I'm getting concerned about you lately :shrug: not your usual sharp self are you

LT hasn't got a pussy as far as I know and why are you so concerned about the 'grabbing pussy' rumour

[Crimson Dynamo]

:conf: copy? Am I going round grabbing your pussy?
LT I'm getting concerned about you lately :shrug: not your usual sharp self are you

Yeah Marsh already tried that tired baiting worn putdown

I thought you were touchy about being called a sock puppet? :shrug:

[Marsh.]

Yeah Marsh already tried that tired baiting worn putdown

I thought you were touchy about being called a sock puppet? :shrug:

Speaking of baiting, that's the third time this week you've brought me into a discussion I wasn't even involved in.

Grow up and pack it in, eh.

[Alf]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/Va8NzqQsH1B-7M35JGLi9g/https/d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/ANMC1YTQfycpeB6fcHtQ_Trump%20and%20May%20Blenheim% 20Palace_frame_2039_DME23.jpg


Trump and Wife
PM and husbandMrs May is wearing the actual carpet for Mr Trump to walk all over her.

[Twosugars]

LT hasn't got a pussy as far as I know and why are you so concerned about the 'grabbing pussy' rumour

It's not a rumour when trump said it himself :facepalm:

[Twosugars]

Mrs May is wearing the actual carpet for Mr Trump to walk all over her.

:laugh:

[Twosugars]

Yeah Marsh already tried that tired baiting worn putdown

I thought you were touchy about being called a sock puppet? :shrug:

It's not baiting, I like you LT. Maybe Marsh likes you too? Hasn't that occured to you?

[Smithy]

LT hasn't got a pussy as far as I know and why are you so concerned about the 'grabbing pussy' rumour

The **** do you mean rumor, when there is literally audio of him sayin “grab her by the pussy”

:rolleyes:

[Beso]

hope the Queen's security watch him in case he wants to grab her by the pussy
:joker:

Ewwww...too far.:nono:

[user104658]

It's not baiting, I like you LT. Maybe Marsh likes you too? Hasn't that occured to you?Marsh loves a bit of LT.

[Beso]

Marsh loves a bit of LT.

Ewwww.too far:joker:

[reece(:]

PQCPI5qGLIw

[arista]

The **** do you mean rumor, when there is literally audio of him sayin “grab her by the pussy”

:rolleyes:



Sure
but 11 years ago,
Nothing to do with NOW.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/F398/production/_102506326_sun-front-page-for-13_07_20.jpg

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/9056/production/_102505963_telegraph-front-page.jpg

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/17AB6/production/_102505969_mirror-front.jpg

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/B766/production/_102505964_i-front-page-13-july.jpg

[bots]

May was completely foolish to allow this visit to go ahead. Anyone could have predicted that the USA troll would pull a stunt like this

[arista]

May was completely foolish to allow this visit to go ahead. Anyone could have predicted that the USA troll would pull a stunt like this

Sure
But he had these 4 days to fill
before meeting Putin in Helsinki
on Monday.

President Trump
is due to leave Scotland on Sunday.

[Kazanne]

The **** do you mean rumor, when there is literally audio of him sayin “grab her by the pussy”

:rolleyes:

Maybe there is, no need to swear,lol, there was also proof that President Clinton had some actual favours from Monica,but he didn't get all this bile thrown at him did he ?:shrug:

[bots]

the other side of it of course is with Trump saying what he has, he will have made the prospect of the EU and UK agreeing a deal much more likely now

[Ammi]

May was completely foolish to allow this visit to go ahead. Anyone could have predicted that the USA troll would pull a stunt like this

...do you think it would have made any difference though, bots...if she hadn’t allowed the visit to go ahead...if she had ‘rejected’ him then he would have ‘punished’ the UK for that reason...because it’s Trump’s way or it’s no way...he doesn’t just advise, he enforces...he darn well insists, otherwise there’ll be serious repercussions and consequences...I mean he’s the very definition of an authoritarian personality...(...which is why he would find Putin a lot easier to deal with than Theresa May...)....


...I recall when the referendum was ongoing, before the vote became Brexit...how Obama gave his opinion that we shouldn’t Brexit and there was all types of screaming of....you have no right of influence in this, you shouldn’t be commenting on this, type thing...go way Obama, just keep to your own country and your own country issues that need looking at....but with Trump and his opinions of what he thinks is the ‘right way’...the screaming often seems to be quite different...it seems to be more, we should listen to Trump, we shouldn’t show him the balloon etc, we should respect him...we should respect a man who is fairly much ‘threatening’ us if we don’t bow down to his wishes, if we don’t bow to his ‘commands’....no I don’t think so, he doesn’t think he’s a leader, he thinks he’s a God...a God to be obeyed otherwise he’ll wreak his punishment...

...he’s too odious for words...

[bots]

Yep Ammi, he is the very definition of a dictator and a very scary individual too. The other thing is that he has likely killed off any chance boris had of becoming PM ... so well done for that :laugh:

The funny thing is that when people troll like he has been doing, it makes others who were not likely to ever agree between themselves focus on the real issues and reach agreement.

[thesheriff443]

Nigel farage gave a great interview about trumps visit, U.K. And the us are the the biggest investors in each other's country, said trump is a business man who came in to politics and does not care what he says.

I say, the us presidency is not a job for life just like the prime misters job, his visit will come and go just like him.

And trump is not the first president to be a womaniser.

[bots]

Nigel farage gave a great interview about trumps visit, U.K. And the us are the the biggest investors in each other's country, said trump is a business man who came in to politics and does not care what he says.

I say, the us presidency is not a job for life just like the prime misters job, his visit will come and go just like home.

And trump is not the first president to be a womaniser.

i'm not aware of any previous presidents having to settle cases involving 12 year old girls out of court before though .... and Trump has :think:

[thesheriff443]

i'm not aware of any previous presidents having to settle cases involving 12 year old girls out of court before though .... and Trump has :think:

Well I was not aware of the 12 year olds case but but Clinton lied under oath while president.

[Kazanne]

i'm not aware of any previous presidents having to settle cases involving 12 year old girls out of court before though .... and Trump has :think:

What's this about a 12 year old girl bots.

[bots]

What's this about a 12 year old girl bots.

he was accused of molesting a 12 year old girl on 2 occasions, and the case was settled out of court

[Kazanne]

he was accused of molesting a 12 year old girl on 2 occasions, and the case was settled out of court

Really? I had never heard that, so it was like the Michael Jackson case ?

[arista]

Nigel farage gave a great interview about trumps visit, U.K. And the us are the the biggest investors in each other's country, said trump is a business man who came in to politics and does not care what he says.

I say, the us presidency is not a job for life just like the prime ministers job, his visit will come and go just like him.

And trump is not the first president to be a womaniser.

Yes Nigel Farage has been Busy
on every TV Channel
And not meeting his mate Trump,
as the PM has said no to that.

[bots]

Really? I had never heard that, so it was like the Michael Jackson case ?

yep same sort of thing

edit just to add, the alleged video where he is seen encouraging russian prostitutes to piss on each other is supposed to be the tip of the iceberg and why he is so "compliant" with Putin

[arista]

yep same sort of thing

edit just to add, the alleged video where he is seen encouraging russian prostitutes to piss on each other is supposed to be the tip of the iceberg and why he is so "compliant" with Putin


Sure.
Loads of these story's around.
But he is still in Power.

[arista]

The Tom Newton Dunn interview with Trump
recorded while Trump was still in Brussels
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6766531/trump-may-brexit-us-deal-off/

[Twosugars]

Sure.
Loads of these story's around.
But he is still in Power.

Sure. That's why the government deals with him. The people who dislike him tho are free to protest.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sure. That's why the government deals with him. The people who dislike him tho are free to protest.

except its not a protest its a bunch of people who keep getting big votes wrong huddling together pretending to be important when they know they are not

:hehe:

[Oliver_W]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/F398/production/_102506326_sun-front-page-for-13_07_20.jpg
Well I'm not sure about the Boris thing.

[Twosugars]

except its not a protest its a bunch of people who keep getting big votes wrong huddling together pretending to be important when they know they are not

:hehe:

Time will tell who is more important. Politicians come and go, values and principles stay.

Idgi, LT, I liked Obama but would never have a problem with people protesting against him, that's their right in a free country

[Nicky91]

yes Boris for PM, if Trump says it, it must be true

[Oliver_W]

yep same sort of thing

edit just to add, the alleged video where he is seen encouraging russian prostitutes to piss on each other is supposed to be the tip of the iceberg and why he is so "compliant" with Putin

Yeah I'm sure random hookers are all up with the government.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Time will tell who is more important. Politicians come and go, values and principles stay.

Idgi, LT, I liked Obama but would never have a problem with people protesting against him, that's their right in a free country

you seem to be under the impression anyone cares if they do trudge around a hot london like a troop of lemmings, they dont

its just laughable to see them and i am sure the vast majority of the UK think the same

[Twosugars]

you seem to be under the impression anyone cares if they do trudge around a hot london like a troop of lemmings, they dont

its just laughable to see them and i am sure the vast majority of the UK think the same

You're big on proofs so do you have a proof of what the vast majority thinks?
Last time I checked 11% thought he was a good president, 67% said bad :hehe:

And of course you care, you've been having a go for days if not weeks

This convo is unproductive LT

Let's look forward to the balloon :cheer2:

[arista]

Sure. That's why the government deals with him. The people who dislike him tho are free to protest.


The Baby Trump is due to go UP
Westminster
in 50mins or so.

But up in Scotland
at his golf course
The Police have said nothing is permitted in he Air
expect for the President arrival etc.

[bots]

Yeah I'm sure random hookers are all up with the government.

hookers don't need to be complicit to take a video

[Oliver_W]

You're big on proofs so do you have a proof of what the vast majority thinks?
Last time I checked 11% thought he was a good president, 67% said bad :hehe:
It looks more like forty per cent. (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/)

hookers don't need to be complicit to take a video
Sure they don't. But their apparent encounter with Trump is meaningless in the MUH RUSSIA nonsense.

[Twosugars]

It looks more like forty per cent. (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/).
:facepalm:
In Britain not the US

[Oliver_W]

:facepalm:
In Britain not the US

Which poll(s) is yours based on?

[Twosugars]

Last yougov in the UK

Can't do links atm

[Twosugars]

It was all over the media including itv special last night and BBC news

[kirklancaster]

Really? I had never heard that, so it was like the Michael Jackson case ?

It is PURE 1000% CRAP, Kaz.

1) Throughout 2016 Trump is running his Presidential Election Campaign. EVERY dirty trick in the book is being utilised against him.

2) In April of 2016, an unknown person walked into a courthouse in California and filed a rape allegation against Donald Trump and IMMEDIATELY the media were aware of it.

3) The lawsuit records show the complainant is a 35-year-old woman called 'Katie Johnson' and the sex charges are alleged to have taken place when she was 13 years old.

4) The address which she gave to the court when filing turned out to be a vacant repossessed property in California where "no one had lived since its owner, David Stacey, died in October last year.”

5) The telephone number which 'Johnson' gave the court as being hers turned out to belong to someone else and always went to answerphone when it was called.

6) 'Johnson' filed the lawsuit herself "without legal representation" and entered a claim for $100 million.

7)The case was thrown out by the court in May of 2016.

8)In June of 2016 the case was refiled but this time in New York State and this time some of the more salacious allegations had been 'omitted' as had the $100 million claim, and this time 'Katie Johnson' was listed as 'Jane Doe'.

9) Jane Doe now had a 'witness'- an anonymous woman called 'Tiffany Doe' (you could not ****ing make this up).

10) Unlike the previous case, 'Jane Doe/Johnson' now had an attorney - Thomas Francis Meagher - a New Jersey patent lawyer who learned of her allegations via an article published on the GossipExtra website advertising that she was “shopping for an attorney.”

11) 'Behind the scenes' at this time, numerous subversive 'anti-Trump' factions were busily contacting various media and trying to 'push' 'Johnson's' story including 'Vote To Dump Trump'.

12) This case too was thrown out by the New York State court in June of 2016.

13) The case was finally dropped in November of 2016 by 'Doe/Johnson' and her 'circus' of agitators.

14) There has NEVER been one shred of evidence that 'Doe/Johnson' ever MET Donald Trump let alone suffer any kind of 'sexual abuse/rape'at his hands.

15) Respected investigative journalists from various organisations who have researched this very 'iffy' frame-up have reached astonishing conclusions ranging from: "Katy Johnson does not even exist" to "All the information about this lawsuit comes solely from the complaint filed by “Katie Johnson,” and no one has as yet located, identified, or interviewed her.

16) 'Doe/Johnson was scheduled to appear at a press conference on 2 November 2016 but didn’t show up, claiming that threats to her life kept her away. She reportedly dropped the lawsuit again on 4 November 2016 for the same reason.

Make your own mind up.

I KNOW what I believe. :wavey:

[Kazanne]

It is PURE 1000% CRAP, Kaz.

1) Throughout 2016 Trump is running his Presidential Election Campaign. EVERY dirty trick in the book is being utilised against him.

2) In April of 2016, an unknown person walked into a courthouse in California and filed a rape allegation against Donald Trump and IMMEDIATELY the media were aware of it.

3) The lawsuit records show the complainant is a 35-year-old woman called 'Katie Johnson' and the sex charges are alleged to have taken place when she was 13 years old.

4) The address which she gave to the court when filing turned out to be a vacant repossessed property in California where "no one had lived since its owner, David Stacey, died in October last year.”

5) The telephone number which 'Johnson' gave the court as being hers turned out to belong to someone else and always went to answerphone when it was called.

6) 'Johnson' filed the lawsuit herself "without legal representation" and entered a claim for $100 million.

7)The case was thrown out by the court in May of 2016.

8)In June of 2016 the case was refiled but this time in New York State and this time some of the more salacious allegations had been 'omitted' as had the $100 million claim, and this time 'Katie Johnson' was listed as 'Jane Doe'.

9) Jane Doe now had a 'witness'- an anonymous woman called 'Tiffany Doe' (you could not ****ing make this up).

10) Unlike the previous case, 'Jane Doe/Johnson' now had an attorney - Thomas Francis Meagher - a New Jersey patent lawyer who learned of her allegations via an article published on the GossipExtra website advertising that she was “shopping for an attorney.”

11) 'Behind the scenes' at this time, numerous subversive 'anti-Trump' factions were busily contacting various media and trying to 'push' 'Johnson's' story including 'Vote To Dump Trump'.

12) This case too was thrown out by the New York State court in June of 2016.

13) The case was finally dropped in November of 2016 by 'Doe/Johnson' and her 'circus' of agitators.

14) There has NEVER been one shred of evidence that 'Doe/Johnson' ever MET Donald Trump let alone suffer any kind of 'sexual abuse/rape'at his hands.

15) Respected investigative journalists from various organisations who have researched this very 'iffy' frame-up have reached astonishing conclusions ranging from: "Katy Johnson does not even exist" to "All the information about this lawsuit comes solely from the complaint filed by “Katie Johnson,” and no one has as yet located, identified, or interviewed her.

16) 'Doe/Johnson was scheduled to appear at a press conference on 2 November 2016 but didn’t show up, claiming that threats to her life kept her away. She reportedly dropped the lawsuit again on 4 November 2016 for the same reason.

Make your own mind up.

I KNOW what I believe. :wavey:

Thankyou for that Kirk,I did think it pretty strange that he would be elected after an accustation like that.

[Twosugars]

The Baby Trump is due to go UP
Westminster
in 50mins or so.

But up in Scotland
at his golf course
The Police have said nothing is permitted in he Air
expect for the President arrival etc.

Thanks for the update, Arista

[Nicky91]

don't call Trump a baby please, we're not like that rude mayor khan

[Smithy]

Maybe there is, no need to swear,lol, there was also proof that President Clinton had some actual favours from Monica,but he didn't get all this bile thrown at him did he ?:shrug:

What has that got to do with anything? :umm2:

[kirklancaster]

Here you are, Kaz. This drug-addled wreck DOES exist but what her REAL name is, God knows. We KNOW her motivations.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3914012/Troubled-woman-history-drug-use-claimed-assaulted-Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-sex-party-age-13-FABRICATED-story.html?ito=social-twi

And here is another report:

Donald Trump Rape Accuser, Katie Johnson, Lied: She Was Not Sexually Assaulted By Trump At Age 13 [Report]
by Heather Tooley.

Donald Trump rape accuser, Katie Johnson, lied about being sexually assaulted by the Republican presidential candidate when she was 13. According to a new exclusive report, the woman who claimed Trump raped her when she was a young teenager made up the entire story and that’s why the lawsuit was dropped.

Daily Mail reports that Katie Johnson, who filed a lawsuit in April claiming that she was sexually assaulted by Donald Trump and financier, Jeffrey Epstein, during a rough role play session in the summer of 1994, fabricated her story. A source reveals that Trump is cleared of any wrongdoings in the case. According to legal documents filed, no corroborative evidence backed up the Donald Trump rape accuser’s claims. The woman’s lawsuit was abruptly dropped last week and it was quickly assumed she was intimidated or received death threats.

The source maintains that the Donald Trump rape accuser wasn’t being truthful and that her story was clearly false once developments surfaced.

“Katie Johnson’s account had been believable and compelling right up until the last minute.”

“But new information emerged that suggested she had not been telling the truth.”

“Ultimately it was discovered that Donald Trump’s name had been inserted into this, he was not involved whatsoever. After that she had no credibility.”

Johnson had previously told Daily Mail about her motivation for filing rape charges against Trump.

“We would have a rapist in the White House. I would feel horrified every single day if I stay in this country,” she said.

The Donald Trump rape accuser continued that the incident happened when she was just 13 has haunted her ever since. She blamed it for having bad relationships and having a general mistrust of anyone who’s ever gotten close to her.

Johnson added that it wasn’t until she saw Trump on Celebrity Apprentice years later that she learned who her attacker was. She couldn’t forget his face but didn’t know his name. She alleged that Donald Trump attacked her with Epstein at a party in the summer of 1994 and stole her virginity.

The Donald Trump rape accuser could be one of many women who are falsely charging that the Republican presidential candidate sexually assaulted them. The billionaire real estate mogul has emphatically denounced all of the allegations and has vowed to sue his accusers once the election is over.

When Katie Johnson first filed papers, Trump’s legal team deemed it “disgusting at the highest level,” a “hoax,” and was done with the intent to “solicit media attention or, perhaps… simply politically motivated.”

It’s reported that Johnson has a troubled past with two DUIs, felony drug possession, and has a history of drug abuse. She shared with Daily Mail how she had dreams of becoming a model and took a Greyhound bus from Oklahoma to New York at the age of 13 in pursuit of her ambitions. The former Trump rape accuser is a former real estate agent who recently had spinal surgery and now claims disability because she’s unable to work.

In legal papers, Johnson claimed that Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted pedophile, sexually assaulted her on two separate occasions. She further asserted that he made threats to her and her family if she didn’t do what she was told.

Donald Trump Rape Lawsuit: What to Know About Accuser Who Claims He Raped Her When She Was 13 #NeverTrump https://t.co/wgi8ruo0F2

— Abby Gail (@SoWithHer) November 4, 2016

It’s unclear what made this woman fabricate serious rape accusations against Trump. She was slated to give a press conference on Wednesday but backed out. On Friday, attorney Gloria Allred’s daughter, Lisa Bloom, tweeted that “Jane Doe” instructed her legal team to dismiss the suit against Epstein and Trump. It drew speculation that the Donald Trump rape accuser had been paid off by Trump or was threatened by his supporters.

In the end, Katie Johnson’s account of what happened didn’t add up, according to the explosive report out on Monday.

[Kazanne]

What has that got to do with anything? :umm2:

They are both presidents,but only one has bile thrown at him ,not many of the presidents are squeaky clean,just wondered why this one was singled out.If we are going on their behaviours it has a lot to do with things.

[Oliver_W]

They are both presidents,but only one has bile thrown at him ,not many of the presidents are squeaky clean,just wondered why this one was singled out.If we are going on their behaviours it has a lot to do with things.

But only one of them is #LiterallyHitler, remember.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Here you are, Kaz. This drug-addled wreck DOES exist but what her REAL name is, God knows. We KNOW her motivations.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3914012/Troubled-woman-history-drug-use-claimed-assaulted-Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-sex-party-age-13-FABRICATED-story.html?ito=social-twi

And here is another report:

Donald Trump Rape Accuser, Katie Johnson, Lied: She Was Not Sexually Assaulted By Trump At Age 13 [Report]
by Heather Tooley.

Donald Trump rape accuser, Katie Johnson, lied about being sexually assaulted by the Republican presidential candidate when she was 13. According to a new exclusive report, the woman who claimed Trump raped her when she was a young teenager made up the entire story and that’s why the lawsuit was dropped.

Daily Mail reports that Katie Johnson, who filed a lawsuit in April claiming that she was sexually assaulted by Donald Trump and financier, Jeffrey Epstein, during a rough role play session in the summer of 1994, fabricated her story. A source reveals that Trump is cleared of any wrongdoings in the case. According to legal documents filed, no corroborative evidence backed up the Donald Trump rape accuser’s claims. The woman’s lawsuit was abruptly dropped last week and it was quickly assumed she was intimidated or received death threats.

The source maintains that the Donald Trump rape accuser wasn’t being truthful and that her story was clearly false once developments surfaced.

“Katie Johnson’s account had been believable and compelling right up until the last minute.”

“But new information emerged that suggested she had not been telling the truth.”

“Ultimately it was discovered that Donald Trump’s name had been inserted into this, he was not involved whatsoever. After that she had no credibility.”

Johnson had previously told Daily Mail about her motivation for filing rape charges against Trump.

“We would have a rapist in the White House. I would feel horrified every single day if I stay in this country,” she said.

The Donald Trump rape accuser continued that the incident happened when she was just 13 has haunted her ever since. She blamed it for having bad relationships and having a general mistrust of anyone who’s ever gotten close to her.

Johnson added that it wasn’t until she saw Trump on Celebrity Apprentice years later that she learned who her attacker was. She couldn’t forget his face but didn’t know his name. She alleged that Donald Trump attacked her with Epstein at a party in the summer of 1994 and stole her virginity.

The Donald Trump rape accuser could be one of many women who are falsely charging that the Republican presidential candidate sexually assaulted them. The billionaire real estate mogul has emphatically denounced all of the allegations and has vowed to sue his accusers once the election is over.

When Katie Johnson first filed papers, Trump’s legal team deemed it “disgusting at the highest level,” a “hoax,” and was done with the intent to “solicit media attention or, perhaps… simply politically motivated.”

It’s reported that Johnson has a troubled past with two DUIs, felony drug possession, and has a history of drug abuse. She shared with Daily Mail how she had dreams of becoming a model and took a Greyhound bus from Oklahoma to New York at the age of 13 in pursuit of her ambitions. The former Trump rape accuser is a former real estate agent who recently had spinal surgery and now claims disability because she’s unable to work.

In legal papers, Johnson claimed that Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted pedophile, sexually assaulted her on two separate occasions. She further asserted that he made threats to her and her family if she didn’t do what she was told.

Donald Trump Rape Lawsuit: What to Know About Accuser Who Claims He Raped Her When She Was 13 #NeverTrump https://t.co/wgi8ruo0F2

— Abby Gail (@SoWithHer) November 4, 2016

It’s unclear what made this woman fabricate serious rape accusations against Trump. She was slated to give a press conference on Wednesday but backed out. On Friday, attorney Gloria Allred’s daughter, Lisa Bloom, tweeted that “Jane Doe” instructed her legal team to dismiss the suit against Epstein and Trump. It drew speculation that the Donald Trump rape accuser had been paid off by Trump or was threatened by his supporters.

In the end, Katie Johnson’s account of what happened didn’t add up, according to the explosive report out on Monday.

Poirot strikes again

:joker:

Kirk stop ruining things with actual facts

[Smithy]

They are both presidents,but only one has bile thrown at him ,not many of the presidents are squeaky clean,just wondered why this one was singled out.If we are going on their behaviours it has a lot to do with things.

I’m pretty sure Clinton got **** thrown at him during his presidency, this is trumps presidency, why would be talking about previous presidents?

The point is you said it’s a rumour what he said, it’s not, he said it. Fact.

[Kazanne]

I’m pretty sure Clinton got **** thrown at him during his presidency, this is trumps presidency, why would be talking about previous presidents?

The point is you said it’s a rumour what he said, it’s not, he said it. Fact.

I did not hear him say that,but even so, it was years ago and a lot of men talk like that,it's not nice but they do.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I’m pretty sure Clinton got **** thrown at him during his presidency, this is trumps presidency, why would be talking about previous presidents?

The point is you said it’s a rumour what he said, it’s not, he said it. Fact.

do you remember the big Clinton protests in London?

[Kazanne]

do you remember the big Clinton protests in London?

I missed the balloon too,as far as I remember he was welcomed everywhere

[Twosugars]

Baby Trump getting all puffed up in Parliament Square

https://i.imgur.com/lAQbqLJ.jpg?2
https://i.imgur.com/BzVTwaq.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/2Gtipqb.jpg?1

[Smithy]

I did not hear him say that,but even so, it was years ago and a lot of men talk like that,it's not nice but they do.

Whether you heard him say it or not is irrelavnt when everyone knows he said it. Oh ok well if it was years ago it’s fine :rolleyes:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I missed the balloon too,as far as I remember he was welcomed everywhere

yes it was a big blow job as i recall

[Smithy]

do you remember the big Clinton protests in London?

Don’t remember Clinton trying to take away basic human rights from people either, so that’s probably why

[Kazanne]

Baby Trump getting all puffed up in Parliament Square

https://i.imgur.com/lAQbqLJ.jpg?2
https://i.imgur.com/BzVTwaq.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/2Gtipqb.jpg?1

Look how stupid they all look,Trumps babysitters indeed

[Twosugars]

do you remember the big Clinton protests in London?

because people actually liked clinton
go on blame the people

although you claim british public likes trump, but where is your proof of that? or maybe you don't like ruining things with facts? :laugh:

[Kazanne]

because people actually liked clinton
go on blame the people

although you claim british public likes trump, but where is your proof of that? or maybe you don't like ruining things with facts? :laugh:

Well there is a big debate on the Wright Stuff,maybe you should check in,LOL, a fair few seem to be on Trumps side,it's awkward for me as I like Tereasa May and have no gripe with Trump really.

[Crimson Dynamo]

because people actually liked clinton
go on blame the people

although you claim british public likes trump, but where is your proof of that? or maybe you don't like ruining things with facts? :laugh:

Yesterday on Iain Dales show LBC he stated that over this year the number of calls to his show hating on Trump had greatly decreased and the number supporting him had shot up

I have found this to be show on all the main shows on LBC and indeed on Tibb and DS too

:shocked:

[Twosugars]

Well there is a big debate on the Wright Stuff,maybe you should check in,LOL, a fair few seem to be on Trumps side,it's awkward for me as I like Tereasa May and have no gripe with Trump really.

Bc a TV debate proves anything :hehe:

But yes theres a "few" :hee: 11%
Those who don't like him a "many" 67%

[Smithy]

Bc a TV debate proves anything :hehe:

But yes theres a "few" :hee: 11%
Those who don't like him a "many" 67%

LOL :joker::joker:

[Kazanne]

Bc a TV debate proves anything :hehe:

But yes theres a "few" :hee: 11%
Those who don't like him a "many" 67%

If you actually watched some of these debates and listened,you might learn a bit more than relying on random polls.

[Twosugars]

Yesterday on Iain Dales show LBC he stated that over this year the number of calls to his show hating on Trump had greatly decreased and the number supporting him had shot up

I have found this to be show on all the main shows on LBC and indeed on Tibb and DS too

:shocked:

this is embarrassing, a tv debate, a radio phone-in

you of all people who is always so rigorous persuing any claims and things you don't like with repeated requests for verification, over and over again
yet when it suits, you come up with none
you do understand there's no point in any debate in these circumstances of double standards
what did you say to me yesterday? there's a practice in SD to back up things with proofs and links etc otherwise admit it you made it all up, or something to that effect...
take your own advice

I'm off to enjoy the balloon :cheer2:

[Twosugars]

If you actually watched some of these debates and listened,you might learn a bit more than relying on random polls.
and if you paid attention at school, you might remember what democracy, freedom of speech and freedom to protest are all about

[Crimson Dynamo]

this is embarrassing, a tv debate, a radio phone-in

you of all people who is always so rigorous persuing any claims and things you don't like with repeated requests for verification, over and over again
yet when it suits, you come up with none
you do understand there's no point in any debate in these circumstances of double standards
what did you say to me yesterday? there's a practice in SD to back up things with proofs and links etc otherwise admit it you made it all up, or something to that effect...
take your own advice

I'm off to enjoy the balloon :cheer2:

I take it you dont understand what LBC is :puzzled:

or what I said

I posted my opinion

You posted a "fact" but did not provide a link

do you understand now?