Survivor 37: David vs. Goliath (yes it's true!)

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think Natalie Cole may be dethroned tonight as series fav

Honestly Angelina won me over as soon as Jeremy's boot interviews got published. Like all the signs of a star were there and now it's all coming into fruition :love: and she survived what should have been her boot episode two weeks in a row #Stangelina

[reece(:]

Honestly Angelina won me over as soon as Jeremy's boot interviews got published. Like all the signs of a star were there and now it's all coming into fruition :love: and she survived what should have been her boot episode two weeks in a row #Stangelina
Her descent from CPbot to OTTN nightmare is a joy to behold. The island/lack of jacket has driven her insane :love:

[Calderyon]

Everyone except Elizabeth herself voted her out?

[reece(:]

The stank jumped out of Alison at that TC

[JerseyWins]

For a season that's been very hit-or-miss / kinda average to me to this point... that was a very good merge episode and lived up to the hype I was hoping for it :clap1:

[LemonJam]

I find Carl really sexy and I don't know why someone help.

[LemonJam]

and yes Angelina is ****ing amazing :love:

[Headie]

Ahhh another amazing episode, Angelina is truly the start of this season post-Natalie and I love that she's been the obvious boot twice in a row and has still survived comfortably in the end :laugh:

I think Natalie Cole may be dethroned tonight as series fav

If Nat was still here she'd be even more messy than Ang right now! I miss her </3

Also Dan is shaping up to be one of my most hated contestants ever if he carries on. And Mike is so gonna slimeball his way into the F3 as the old goat no one really cares for.

[Jigs]

WTFFF WTF WTF WTF.

This was the best episode of Survivor in YEARS. Soooo much drama and confusion. The target changed about 7 times during the course of the episode, and Alec/Dan/Elizabeth/Christian/Angelina were all in the firing line.

I died when Angelina tried to have a human moment with Elizabeth and Elizabeth/Gabby conspired to frame the whole thing and set it up to be against Angelina.

Also, I am stunned that after all of that, the vote was a unanimous 12-1 vote against Elizabeth! (I think that is the biggest unanimous vote in Survivor history?)

[reece(:]

I find Carl really sexy and I don't know why someone help.

We love a drunk?

[Nicky91]

WTFFF WTF WTF WTF.

This was the best episode of Survivor in YEARS. Soooo much drama and confusion. The target changed about 7 times during the course of the episode, and Alec/Dan/Elizabeth/Christian/Angelina were all in the firing line.

I died when Angelina tried to have a human moment with Elizabeth and Elizabeth/Gabby conspired to frame the whole thing and set it up to be against Angelina.

Also, I am stunned that after all of that, the vote was a unanimous 12-1 vote against Elizabeth! (I think that is the biggest unanimous vote in Survivor history?)

in our dutch survivor we had speed skater Jochem Uytdehaage who got eliminated with 5-2, some who voted against him, first told him ''don't worry you're safe'' :omgno:

i really like those sneaky backstabbing games in survivor :clap1: makes good telly this sort of drama, confusion, treachery

[Headie]

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[MB.]

Angelina surviving two of her own boot eps in a row :love:

[TomC]

SUCH a good episode. This season is an absolute car crash and I love it!

So many emotional players :love:

Angelina is a GODDESS :love:

[reece(:]

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Okay, Angelina, let’s start with Jacketgate. When and why did you hatch this plan to somehow take possession of somebody’s — anybody’s! — jacket?
ANGELINA KEELEY: Jacketgate was a moonshot mission that epically and hilariously failed! No one laughed harder while watching my pleas than I did, but the good news is that the jacket was never the primary objective. My focus heading into each tribal was always to vote out the person that advanced my short- and long-term game.

Before I get to why Natalie (and her jacket) ended up being the primary target for that infamous vote, let me start by setting the scene a bit: First, I would have given anything to bring my parka jacket with me into the game, but alas, what we wear is not entirely up to us as contestants. Our clothes are supposed to be a good representation of who we are and what we would normally wear in our day-to-day lives. We start with one pair of clothing, and what you start the game with is what you end your game with, unless you get creative. From the first day of the game when we jumped off the barge and headed to our camps, we started the game drenched, and for many of us our clothes continued to exist in a perpetual state of wetness for weeks. Even when the sun came out, the humidity ensured our damp clothes would haunt our dreams (or lack thereof).

Second, our season has had the most brutal weather of arguably any season of Survivor. Up to this point in the game, we’ve been hit by two cyclones, and wind and rain nearly every night. There are between 10 to 12 hours of darkness at night, the temperature drops significantly, and our shelters did not provide full protection from the elements. Most nights, the rain would get so heavy that water would leak through our roof for a large portion of the night. On top of this, there was essentially a wind tunnel as well, because we are not able to fully enclose our shelter since we are filmed 24/7 and there needs to be space for the camera crew. What all of this adds up to are very cold conditions, and as someone who naturally runs cold, I found myself hardly sleeping. I would lay awake at night thinking about how much I wished I had warmer clothing and how much having it would improve my game because I’d be able to actually sleep at night.

It wasn’t until the Immunity Challenge that I truly started to feel that Natalie was the best choice to go that day. During the challenge, she and Mike started arguing pretty intensely. Natalie had wanted to be the first one to try her hand at the snake puzzle, but Mike told her no, that we couldn’t risk it, and this set her off. I think their arguing was a distraction to Nick on the snake puzzle, and it made Mike really adamant on wanting Natalie out. I had already stuck my neck out once for Natalie in the first Goliath vote. I was working on developing trust with Mike and Nick, and I also wanted to show them that I was flexible and willing to work together. So I proposed a deal: If we get Natalie out this time, we get Lyrsa out next, and continue to work together for the long haul. (More on this in another question below.)

When we got back to camp and decided on voting out Lyrsa, I told Natalie I wanted Lyrsa’s jacket as a way to really make Natalie believe that Lyrsa was the target that night. I didn’t know Natalie would talk to Nick in the way she did, but the way she approached him further motivated Nick to want her out that night and to go along with our plan.

The first version of Jacketgate was actually quite simple: My plan was to try to get everyone to leave their jackets at camp before we left for Tribal Council. I said I thought I saw some rain clouds and we didn’t want to risk getting all of our clothes wet at Tribal. For a part of the afternoon, this worked. Lyrsa and Natalie both stored their jackets along with my thin sweater in a dry area at camp. Unfortunately, people started to get paranoid, so everyone ended up taking all of their clothes to Tribal that night.

It was shortly before Tribal that I went to Lyrsa with my idea. I told her I had a crazy idea that I would only do if she was cool with it. I asked her if she would be comfortable with me writing her name down so as to make Natalie think that I didn’t go against her and potentially get her to will her jacket to me before she left. Lyrsa laughed, and said that she was totally fine with it. I told her I would only do it if she was completely okay with it, and she assured me she was. I told her I would put a heart on it so she knew the vote was mine, and I told her I wanted to work together on the next vote to make sure we both make it to the next stage in the game.

Of course, no one likes to see their name written down, even if it is is a ploy vote, so I knew there was a risk of alienating Lyrsa by doing this, but I wouldn’t have done it if she had told me it made her feel uncomfortable in the slightest. I then proceeded to let Mike and Nick know about the plan, and make sure they were also okay with it, and they were. Then, it was just about executing and hoping for the best. Obviously, it didn’t work out in the slightest.

Did you think you had a good shot at Natalie’s jacket when you concocted the voting-for-Lyrsa ruse, or were you not surprised when she kept it?
After I swung the votes at the first Goliath tribal to be a Jeremy blindside and save Natalie, Natalie told me how Jeremy had asked her for her jacket since he thought she was on her way out. Natalie thanked me for working with her on this vote and told me then that if she ever did get voted out, that she would give me her jacket before she left.

Even though she had said this to me, I always knew Jacketgate was a long shot. Natalie is a tough and smart person, so I didn’t know how it would all play out. I wasn’t planning on getting up to hug her in that moment, and while the feelings of surprise that I expressed were not real, the feelings of sadness were. I know many people saw that whole shenanigan as an act to get her jacket, and that was a part of it, but I was actually sad to see Natalie go. I was one of the few people who got close to her in the game, and who tried to work with her. I felt she was a very misunderstood person on the island, because I saw moments of a very loving, funny, playful Natalie. Some of my biggest laughs out there were with her. Had she shown more levity and less abrasiveness, which I saw glimpses of, I think she could have made it deep in the game.

That being said, in the moment she was leaving what really tipped her off to it all was when I was hugging her goodbye, Nick blurted out, “Hey, Natalie, how about you give Angelina your jacket,” in a mocking tone and he laughed. I think this put her on notice more than anything. That, mixed with being blindsided, led to a silent departure and failed Jacketgate attempt. In the end, I wasn’t surprised that she kept her jacket. I hope my loss was viewers’ gain.

You said at the last Tribal Council that a plan was put in place when you all voted out Natalie and you were hoping to continue that plan. Does that mean there was a deal made with Nick, that you and Mike would vote out Natalie if he agreed to take out Lyrsa next?
I had a strong feeling that Jabeni would lose another immunity challenge, so when I was making decisions out there I was never thinking one vote at a time. I had to play through all the scenarios in my head of how the imminent move could impact the next, and my longer-term game. If we had voted Lyrsa out first from Jabeni instead of Natalie, then across all tribes Goliaths would still have had a 8-6 majority, and that would mean that at the next Tribal Council voting me out would not make a difference to whether or not we entered the merge with a Goliath majority.

Also, despite saying that she was “Goliath Strong” at the first Tribal Council, one night when we couldn’t sleep Natalie and I were walking around and she told me her hit list for the merge, at the top of it were several Goliaths. I never felt Natalie fully trusted me, and I felt she would go after me the first chance she got. I felt she would have been able to get Mike and Nick to work with her to get me out before the merge, especially if she were to explain the strong ties I had to many Goliaths, as well as my ability to flip the first vote.

I knew Mike was a smart and aware player, so once the numbers between the original tribes were 7-7, I presumed that he would not want to lose a Goliath majority by taking me out, since that would potentially ostracize him from the original Goliath tribe. I used the broader numbers between Davids and Goliaths as added insurance of maintaining my place in the game and ensuring I had a better chance of making it to the merge.

Did you ever feel in any trouble before or during that last Tribal Council?
Of course! The minute you start feeling safe in the game is the minute you get voted out. You can never let your guard down in Survivor. I also was aware that I had just made this crazy Jacketgate move, and that put me in the hot seat. I didn’t expect to be playing so hard out the gate, but I have a “go big or go home” mentality with most things in life, and I knew I would regret more not playing hard than I would laying low and getting voted off. That being said, I worked every angle with Nick and Mike to give myself the best shot at staying in the game, and I prevailed.

What was your first reaction at the tribe swap when you saw your new Jabeni tribe in terms of whom you were with and how you thought you all would do?
My first reaction was that either someone had a voodoo doll of me back at Ponderosa or that I had some bad karma with the Survivor gods. I knew the only thing Jabeni had the best shot at was perfect attendance at Tribal Councils, and that it was going to be a dicey journey for me to get to the merge.

Earlier in the season, you and Alison echoed a point I have made before on my recaps: that the vast majority of hidden immunity idols are found by men. And yet here again, all the idols so far have been found by men. What’s your theory on why that is?
There are a lot of elements at play here and I’ll do my best to explain my theory on it, but of course this my opinion and I am always open to hearing other’s ideas on this. Survivor is fascinating because so much of what we see in the real world is alive and well in the game, especially as it pertains to gender norms and biases. First, the division of labor at camp tends to fall along stereotypical gender norms; the women often tend to the fire, clean the pots, cook the food, weave palm fronds, etc., while the men tend to go out for the more physically intensive labor of collecting bamboo and firewood, hunting crabs, fishing, and the like. This dynamic affords men more opportunities to be out and around the areas where idols are located. While occasionally idols are hidden around camp, most tend to be out in the jungle or along the beach. Not every foraging trek turns into an idol hunt, but it does allow them to better understand the area, make mental notes of key locations they want to come back to, and often gives them an excuse to wander unaccompanied into the woods. Those factors all come into play.

I believe the biggest factor at play though is that hunting for idols is viewed as very aggressive gameplay. In the real world, it has been well researched and proven that double standards for certain behaviors exist between women and men. Women tend to be socially penalized for displaying aggressiveness, while men are often rewarded and celebrated for it. From the old-school, traditional gender perspective, we expect men to be aggressive, but when women are aggressive we can be seen as breaking the mold of how we are expected to behave. When Ben, Russell, and Tony hunt for idols, they’re labeled as bold, daring, and taking their game into their hands, whereas women can be labeled as sneaky, conniving, and untrustworthy. Of course, the inverse can be true, but often this disparity in perception hurts women disproportionately and perhaps makes some of us less inclined to search for idols because the search itself has the potential to be more damaging to our game and how our tribemates perceive us.

For me, knowing that less than one in five hidden immunity idols are found by women was extremely motivating. For anyone who knows me, they know that I strive to live a life that empowers girls and women to achieve parity in all spaces, and this is one very small example of one of the many spaces we need to change. I was so happy when the show included this scene in the first episode, and my hope is that for all future women who play the game, they are even more inspired to boost that stat!

Jeremy caused a big ruckus both at your camp and in the media when he accused you of wanting to be in a showmance with John Morrison. What was your reaction when you heard that out there and then again in his exit interviews?
Let me start by being perfectly clear: There was no showmance between me and John. When I first heard from Natalie that Jeremy was using the word “showmance” about me at the Goliath camp, I was hurt. John and I were in an alliance, not a showmance. In fact, if you look at Jeremy’s definition of a showance (looking for coconuts together? pulling clothes out of the rain?) you realize those are exactly what good alliance members do. Part of what strengthened the friendship between John and I is that we are in very similar life phases: He was engaged and about to be married when he returned home from the game, and I had just gotten married the summer before. We were both out there fighting to create a better life for our new families. So Jeremy’s mischaracterization of my friendship with John was both inaccurate and hurtful to both of us, personally and for our games. But I always assume the best in people, so I went to Jeremy directly and asked him to not use that word because it was not true. He tried to laugh it off as a joke but then continued to spread his opinions without regard for how it might impact others. It was for this reason that I lost all trust with him.

So was I upset? Yes. Did his continued use of the word “showmance” help motivate me to whip the votes to get him out? Absolutely. But I also saw him as a threat in the game who would use his humor and wit to get far in the game. Jeremy’s claim about off-camera conversations to whip the unanimous blindside were untrue; every conversation I had was on camera. By making this claim, he is calling into question the integrity of the game. Jeff would never allow anyone to have that many off-camera conversations about strategy because it jeopardizes the entire premise of the game. As any fan knows, Jeff and his team are too good at their jobs and care too much about the process for that to ever happen.

As for Jeremy’s exit interviews: His conduct was entirely unbecoming, distasteful, and mean. He crossed a line by choosing to attack me personally with a malicious prepared statement that included slander. When he said that my husband told me to do anything to win the million dollars, that was a blatant lie. My husband literally told me the opposite, to not lose myself in a game for something as fleeting as money. My husband is an infantry officer in the United States Marine Corps, and if you know anything about Marines, you know they value honor and integrity above all else.

My hope moving forward is that people treat each other with respect and dignity in their exit press and beyond. There was a way for Jeremy to do that, but he chose the low road. Fortunately, his false accusations didn’t impact me in the slightest, and I think his exit interviews, as well as how he treated Natalie during that Tribal Council, confirmed to America why he was a unanimous boot.

So little of what happens out there actually makes it into the episode. What is one thing that happened that you wish could have made it to air?
There are a thousands of small, special moments that happen between each of us out there that don’t make it to the air, and those truly are the moments that make the experience so remarkably transformative and bonding for us as a cast. Lyrsa and I connected early in our Jabeni days about both being Latina. Lyrsa spoke on a personal level about how it was to grow up in Puerto Rico, and how the recent hurricane had impacted her and her family. I shared with her that my grandparents and great grandparents immigrated to the United States from El Salvador and Mexico, and how my heritage is a central part of my identity. It was special to have a tribemate who had shared this with me and who would throw out the occasional Spanish phrase or sentence when we didn’t want others to know what we were saying.

Of course, while playing you only see what you see, so when the episodes then air you get to see so much more. What has surprised you the most watching the episodes play back on TV?
Watching the season back is a bit like pulling aside the curtain of Oz. I’ve loved getting to see firsthand everyone’s strategies and thoughts throughout the journey. Seeing it all back now confirms for me that everyone cast on our season is tough competition and playing great games.

Last week, watching the last immunity challenge with the saucers was crazy to see from the outside and relive all over again from a viewer perspective. I can’t emphasize this enough: That saucer was REALLY HEAVY. I was really proud to see that even though we were completely blown out in the challenge, that Jabeni never gave up. My hands were so shredded and bleeding that I had to use my forearms to carry the saucer for the final stretch. Jabeni means “champion” in Fijian, and even though we were far, far from it that day, I am proud of how we lost together as a tribe and never gave up.

Finally, making the merge is a big landmark moment. How did it feel to know you had made it to that stage of the game?
Making the merge was a dream come true! This is the stage when the game really skyrockets, and I felt ecstatic to make it to this point. I was so excited to meet the people in the game that I had only seen from across our mats and to be reunited with many that I had already gotten to know. As a player, the options, paths forward, and relationships truly become so much more complex, and this was the part I was most looking forward to the new challenge of it all. For our season in particular, I got the impression that the level of competition was at an all-time high, everyone could hold their own, so I was eager to see all the trickery and masterminding that I knew each player was capable of and the potential chaos that could ensue.

https://ew.com/tv/2018/11/06/survivor-angelina-keeley-david-vs-goliath-merge-interview/3/

Love ha

[TomC]

like honestly this season is TOP TIER Survivor this side of HvV

[TomC]

how did we get here from ****ing ghost island?

[MB.]

I can't believe we've gone through half a season only managing to draw Janet-from-The-Good-Place parallels with Alison when Dan is, in terms of both physical similarity and exact personality type, Mac from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia

(which is why I can't bring myself to dislike him)

[Moniqua]

IN THIS HOUSE WE STAN ANGELINA MOTHERFOOKIN KEELEY :love::clap1:

[Nicky91]

our survivor is tonight :love:

[MB.]

If your Survivor doesn't have Angelina Keeley in it then it doesn't count

[JerseyWins]

Why are people acting like this was Angelina's boot ep when it was sooooo obvious it was Elizabeth once the edit became her or Angelina? (Really it was Elizabeth's boot episode all along but they could've thrown a curveball when it was earlier in the episode)

[JerseyWins]

Anyway, still perched about yesterday's episode and it has me excited for the season moving forward now :clap1:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Why are people acting like this was Angelina's boot ep when it was sooooo obvious it was Elizabeth once the edit became her or Angelina? (Really it was Elizabeth's boot episode all along but they could've thrown a curveball when it was earlier in the episode)

sis you spent the whole episode saying you were wrong so

[Calderyon]

Why are people acting like this was Angelina's boot ep when it was sooooo obvious it was Elizabeth once the edit became her or Angelina? (Really it was Elizabeth's boot episode all along but they could've thrown a curveball when it was earlier in the episode)

False hope for me personally.

[Headie]

Did you think you had a good shot at Natalie’s jacket when you concocted the voting-for-Lyrsa ruse, or were you not surprised when she kept it?
After I swung the votes at the first Goliath tribal to be a Jeremy blindside and save Natalie, Natalie told me how Jeremy had asked her for her jacket since he thought she was on her way out. Natalie thanked me for working with her on this vote and told me then that if she ever did get voted out, that she would give me her jacket before she left.

Even though she had said this to me, I always knew Jacketgate was a long shot. Natalie is a tough and smart person, so I didn’t know how it would all play out. I wasn’t planning on getting up to hug her in that moment, and while the feelings of surprise that I expressed were not real, the feelings of sadness were. I know many people saw that whole shenanigan as an act to get her jacket, and that was a part of it, but I was actually sad to see Natalie go. I was one of the few people who got close to her in the game, and who tried to work with her. I felt she was a very misunderstood person on the island, because I saw moments of a very loving, funny, playful Natalie. Some of my biggest laughs out there were with her. Had she shown more levity and less abrasiveness, which I saw glimpses of, I think she could have made it deep in the game.

We love messy TV legends <3

That being said, in the moment she was leaving what really tipped her off to it all was when I was hugging her goodbye, Nick blurted out, “Hey, Natalie, how about you give Angelina your jacket,” in a mocking tone and he laughed. I think this put her on notice more than anything. That, mixed with being blindsided, led to a silent departure and failed Jacketgate attempt. In the end, I wasn’t surprised that she kept her jacket. I hope my loss was viewers’ gain.

Ugh Nick is so annoying, I can't wait for his boot ep

[JerseyWins]

sis you spent the whole episode saying you were wrong so
That's because I'm always wrong... especially when I feel that sure about who's going :joker:

[JerseyWins]

False hope for me personally.
:joker:

[starry]

The only big suspense I thought was whether Elizabeth would win immunity or not. And a good tough immunity challenge, though one that might make someone dizzy watching that rope go back and forth.

The tribal was mainly funny for the terrible gameplay, Gabby so messy lol and Elizabeth not far behind going on about Goliath's getting their heads chopped off. Elizabeth was in a desperate position and she knew it.

[Moniqua]

Nick is still the WORST! :yuk:

[Wizard.]

Omg it was obvious that Elizabeth was going to go still but I live for the drama... I'm so happy messy Angelina is still there after trying to get Natalie's jacket and then Elizabeth's jury vote :love: looks like she might be safe next week too as Gabby or Christian will probably go. I feel like BECAUSE this season is about favourites and under-dogs I'm not rooting for the underdogs (although I do love Gabby but she's terrible and I like Christian and Nick).

[MB.]

Survivor 39: USA vs. South Africa final two confirmed?

https://i.imgur.com/nQhqNmc.png

[Macie Lightfoot]

I don't blame Toni for getting emotional because it REALLY wasn't fair that Katinka practically did a somersault during that Reward Challenge :love:

[JerseyWins]

Dan killin it to start the episode

[JerseyWins]

Lol @ Davie's distraction working :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Oh good, more bro dudes finding random clues on the ground just because this is Survivor in 2018 :)

[JerseyWins]

Man, Nick is literally in with everyone :skull: Not sure if that will backfire on him soon enough or actually work :think:

[Calderyon]

No tuna, no bite for me.

[JerseyWins]

Mike :joker: "I got a heavy bag, this is the heaviest bag out here" :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

lmao wig @ Dan getting cocky and losing it for his team <33333333

[JerseyWins]

Dan talking ish and then dropping one of his bags... that is SO Dan lolol

[JerseyWins]

Is this going to be Mike's boot episode? :worry:

[JerseyWins]

Omggg Angelina :skull:

[Macie Lightfoot]

WOW we love a woke queengelina <33333333333333

[Macie Lightfoot]

Angelina seriously is the best thing to happen to Survivor since Jaclyn Schultz :love:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Brad Culpepper being Dan's hero is such a Dan Thing honestly.

I almost hope his dumb ass makes it to FTC just to see him give suuuuuch a terrible performance

[Calderyon]

Predictable final two.

[Macie Lightfoot]

UGH that would've been so epique if our queen had won

[Calderyon]

Angelina lost. Nice. Good result.

[JerseyWins]

So it'll be between Christian and Angelina for the edit or between Christian and someone else? :think:

[Calderyon]

So it'll be between Christian and Angelina for the edit or between Christian and someone else? :think:

Depends if someone finds out about someones advantage or immunity.

[Calderyon]

I will be shocked if a Goliath wins this season.

[Macie Lightfoot]

HOW is Angelina a threat when the entire beach hates her????? Dan's an idiot.....x

[JerseyWins]

This is getting interesting :worry:

[Calderyon]

Seems like a surprise result coming up.

Alec gone?

[Macie Lightfoot]

How much do we want to bet that nobody will care that Alec did EXACTLY what Angelina did last week? #SurvivorSexism

[JerseyWins]

How much do we want to bet that nobody will care that Alec did EXACTLY what Angelina did last week? #SurvivorSexism
He told an ally of the target that he was getting voted out, not the actual target :fan:

Plus I don't think Nick will expose him to the others :think:

[JerseyWins]

Eh if it's between Christian & Angelina then I'm ok with that. The fact they said they need to weaken Dan makes me think they could go for like, Kara though. :worry:

But with the two it seems to be between, if Christian does go, which I kinda don't expect but idk, then it could be worse... if the opposite result happens then that would be a thing of beauty :fc:

Wait... aren't the Davids down two numbers? So stealing a vote would only create a tie? So either Christian goes or Davie uses his idol on him? Idkkk at all now

[JerseyWins]

Davie using his idol this week and then them using their vote stealer advantage next week would probably be the smartest move.

[JerseyWins]

Bwahahah now that's funny @ that Angelina/Dan interaction :joker:

Wooooow @ Dan using it :skull: :skull: :skull:

[Macie Lightfoot]

yaaaaaaaasssssssssss MY WIG <333333333333

[JerseyWins]

This is a cluster****... and wtf even happens now? :joker:

[JerseyWins]

WOOOOOW @ John going like this. That's harsh :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Dan idoling out John <3333333333333333333333

sad that one of my daddies was blindsided though :(

[JerseyWins]

The fact they said they need to weaken Dan makes me think they could go for like, Kara though. :worry:
That included John but I was muuuch more worried for Kara. But holy **** what a wild way for that to happen!

Dan goofed :joker:

[Calderyon]

Angelina is sadly safe, but at least one of her alliance left. Too bad it was John.

[JerseyWins]

Angelina is sadly safe, but at least one of her alliance left. Too bad it was John.
Why do I feel like Angelina stays for a while now though? :skull: That's a potential disaster out of all this. :worry:

[JerseyWins]

John predicted a brochacho blindside :laugh:

[JerseyWins]

This season is actually on the rise... two really good episodes back to back to start the merge :clap1:

[Macie Lightfoot]

You mother****ers having to suffer through what should have been four boot episodes in a row for Our Queen Angelina <33333333333333333333 stay pressed loves..........x

[Calderyon]

Why do I feel like Angelina stays for a while now though? :skull: That's a potential disaster out of all this. :worry:

That might be, but at least it´s not looking good on her winning this.

And they are going to sadly bring her back on another season, i think.

[Calderyon]

You mother****ers having to suffer through what should have been four boot episodes in a row for Our Queen Angelina <33333333333333333333 stay pressed loves..........x

There is no need to swear.

[Macie Lightfoot]

And there's no need to have bad taste either but that hasn't stopped you!

[reece(:]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaas!

[reece(:]

But I liked John </3

[Macie Lightfoot]

But I liked John </3

Me too, and WOW he can do things to me, but it was a necessary sacrifice!

(I loooooove that Angelina didn't even have the most votes so Dan's idol went to waste, he must be FUMING :love:love::love:)

[Jack_]

I’m really enjoying this season but am gonna need the David’s to get a numbers advantage and prevent the inevitable, they are the way better tribe

Barring a couple the Goliath’s are so bland

[JerseyWins]

You mother****ers having to suffer through what should have been four boot episodes in a row for Our Queen Angelina <33333333333333333333 stay pressed loves..........x
As IF we'd be pressed when Dan & Davie were the ones stealing the show tonight! x

[Macie Lightfoot]

I’m really enjoying this season but am gonna need the David’s to get a numbers advantage and prevent the inevitable, they are the way better tribe

Barring a couple the Goliath’s are so bland

I really don't think that Carl, Davie, Christian, and Nick can carry a show :skull: Gabby maybe but only because her weepy theatrics and ability to make anything about herself is admirable.

Give me like..... any Goliath except for Mike over them any day? Even buffoons like Alec and Dan have their value.

[reece(:]

The one time I root for the majority and I see them getting pagonged :skull: (well the same happened with Galu :skull: )

[reece(:]

Angelina is sadly safe.

Why do I feel like Angelina stays for a while now though? :skull: That's a potential disaster out of all this. :worry:

http://i.imgur.com/xsRmdBV.gif

[DrunkerThanMoses]

The only root able ones left are Angelina Davie and nick.....

Can Alison please go all ready... She is such a waste

[Natalie.]

I enjoyed that but I quite liked John :love:
I'm glad Dan wasted his idol on Angelina

[starry]

Good result, John's boring, Dan wasted an idol and the game is kept close. Why wouldn't anyone be happy with that?

[TomC]

ugh AMAZInG vote! the editing this season is soooo good, like John was edited in a way that I like him so his vote-off was shocking, but also i don't care abt him enough for it to affect my enjoyment. I also feel like Angelina could stick around for a while now that the Goliaths aren't as dominant <3

And omg Dan will be FUMED.

Also lmao I realised that Angelina has the same voice as the girl in the 'not to be racist but asians really cadsnfjdsnsj' vine and I can't unhear it :skull:

Anyhoo, here's my ranking of the final 11:

Angelina
Alec
Kara
Alison
Davie
Gabby
Carl
Dan
Mike
Nick
Christian

[Wizard.]

I'm SCREAMING I was gonna be so pissed if the David's did nothing but that was incredible :love: two of my favs gets to stay and Dan is an IDIOT!

[Wizard.]

The David's being so smart to think of voting for John :love: Davie telling Dan "good job" even though he knows whats coming :love: Carl laughing smugly :love: Elizabeth grinning in the distance :love:

[Wizard.]

Also Alec being the catalyst for all the main drama this season :love:

[Headie]

Ange surviving another boot ep of hers <3

[MB.]

Aw, not the George Bushie of Tushie :( tbf I began to realise that he wasn't going to be of much relevance to the rest of the season when Natalie was voted out (what was the point of his "I'm gonna drag Natalie to the end for the lulz" confessional other than to bait us impressionable gays?), so it wasn't as much of a shock as, say, Christian going this early

Anyway I'm giving my firstborn to Angelina

[Calderyon]

Anyway I'm giving my firstborn to Angelina

She would probably take it. Greedy *****.

[MB.]

She would probably take it. Greedy *****.

There is no need to swear.


:)

[JerseyWins]

Best part about John going is that it leaves all the rest of the bigger characters in the game moving forward while still creating a big moment for someone who I'm not sure would've had a very good boot episode/scenario otherwise :clap1:

Worst part: Angelina is still in there :skull: possibly for the long haul

[JerseyWins]

Also speaking of big characters... gotta say there's plenty this season. And also I could see just about anyone winning!

[MB.]

John's Ponderosa comprising him going round asking all the women in Fiji for tips for his wedding vows :love:

[TomC]

I feel like Kara has winner written all over her

[Wizard.]

I could actually see Angelina making it to the end :skull: like she could manipulate Trump into giving away free healthcare

[reece(:]

I could actually see Angelina making it to the end :skull: like she could manipulate Trump into giving away free healthcare

That scene of her whispering to herself "You got this!" MUST mean something

[Wizard.]

Queen of begging

1062890803465543680 can we just have the next episode NOW!?

[TomC]

Queen of begging

1062890803465543680 can we just have the next episode NOW!?

ugh legend

[Calderyon]

Best part about John going is that it leaves all the rest of the bigger characters in the game moving forward while still creating a big moment for someone who I'm not sure would've had a very good boot episode/scenario otherwise :clap1:

Worst part: Angelina is still in there :skull: possibly for the long haul

Don't worry according to how her edit is going, she isn't going to win. Everybody is onto her.

[Calderyon]

:)

I had the decency to censor myself at least, even though I admit it was wrong to do so.

[Moniqua]

all edgic and exit interviews have led me to believe that

gabby

wins.

[Moniqua]

oop have my wig sis :love:

https://i.imgur.com/IO2EZtG.png?1

[Calderyon]

I thought she was Caucasian?

A Latino then?

[JerseyWins]

I feel like Kara has winner written all over her
And it could be SO MUCH WORSE :love:

[JerseyWins]

I think I could most see Gabby winning though which... isn't that great or that bad. It could be better but it could be SO MUCH WORSE. :love:

[reece(:]

Can we get Nick out ASAP, overexposed and bland are the worst traits.

[JerseyWins]

Can we get Nick out ASAP, overexposed and bland are the worst traits.
It could be SO MUCH WORSE


... Ok I'm done with that :hehe:

[JerseyWins]

Yeah though Nick is pretty average at best. Bland and overexposed but I think he's warming to me slightly. I like him best when he's in with Davie & Carl (even though idgaf about Carl on his own either lol).

[Moniqua]

I thought she was Caucasian?

A Latino then?

yup, she even mentioned it a few episodes ago :)

[Macie Lightfoot]

I feel like Kara has winner written all over her

There have been lots of comparisons between Kara and Winchele in terms of edit but my biggest fear is that Kara really hasn't been that complex and we don't know anything about her relationships with ANYONE other than Dan. Like it's good that she does get shielded from a lot of the Goliath negativity but she hasn't had any substance?

Gabby winning is..... not very likely lol. Like I don't know what some people (Unspoiled Edgic) are seeing in her edit at ALL. Similarly, Nick is wayyyy too overexposed and his edit has so many holes in it for him to be winning (mainly directed at Reddit).

Gun to my head, I think I'd pick Christian as my winner even though I'm not confident in it at all. Like he definitely feels like a 5th/4th placer with a fan favorite edit BUT so much of the edit has been his charm and his relationships with everyone and even though I don't think his edit is good, I don't know anyone who has a better edit.

[TomC]

could alison be a winner? she's probably even less likely by your criteria regarding kara.

but yeah both kara and alison give me winchele or natalie white vibes

[Macie Lightfoot]

Alison has been featured in exactly one episode so no.

[Calderyon]

Christian´s edit is the one which is giving the most winner vibes at the moment tbh.

Angelina´s is either going just before the final, idoled out or losing in the final to someone.

[MB.]

People who are idoled out don't tend to get four episodes of 5 visibility in a row

[Calderyon]

People who are idoled out don't tend to get four episodes of 5 visibility in a row

Maybe not.

Don´t really know Survivor edgic/edit history that well.

Just threw that out there.

Do you agree with the other two?

[MB.]

I honestly have no idea :laugh: I've spent the past three or four episodes expecting Angelina to go right up until someone else's name was read out, so all I really know is that she's one of the biggest characters of the series and would hopefully have gotten this big of an edit whether she came fourth or eleventh

[Calderyon]

I agree with that it´s crazy that she is still there.

[JerseyWins]

I for one have only expected her to go like.... once. The first time she was edited to possibly go (against Lyrsa I think?).. and that was kind of a toss up too where I didn't see it as "yup this is Angelina's boot episode"

This week didn't really feel like Christian OR Angelina would go... That's why my first gut was Kara / "someone close to Dan" despite it barely even being a mention in the edit. She was probably more likely than Christian though I guess.

And although I didn't mind seeing more of her at first for the lolz, I'd have liked to see her go by now though!

[iRyan]

Where do y’all watch online? I don’t have dat CBS access

[Macie Lightfoot]

CPM5 Alison boot?

[JerseyWins]

Dan tho :laugh2:

I like how Dan's the super emotional one and Kara more of the manly / put him in check one. :joker:

And omg that Kara confessional reeeeally makes me think Kara could win! :o

[Macie Lightfoot]

TALLISON coming through and playing recon on Orange's combo lock :joker: she is one of the better randos lately?

Also shoutout to all the dumb jock boys yelling out random numbers and Kara just being like "**** I already have the pieces let's go :\"

[JerseyWins]

"Can't be little bitches" :joker: Straight from the bible of Kara

Also lmfao I can't believe Kara wants DAN out :joker:

[JerseyWins]

And omg that Kara confessional reeeeally makes me think Kara could win! :o
I could also maaaybe see Kara going out this episode though :laugh:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Basically "I look up and I see the camera pointing at something other than me so then I found the Idol"

[JerseyWins]

Christian finding the idol :clap1: From nearly out to in with an idol :omgno:

[JerseyWins]

I didn't want Alec to win this one. Dan </3

[JerseyWins]

Allison's edit is straaaange... feels quite a bit Winchele-esque to me though.

[reece(:]

RIP Kara x

[JerseyWins]

I mean isn't it obvious to just use the vote steal this week? :joker:

[JerseyWins]

They literally didn't even mention who they're voting for though :worry:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Eh, the Davids all strategizing together immediately after complaining about the Goliaths doing so is not a good look.

Not to mention that having three different types of advantages is all sorts of lame.

[Macie Lightfoot]

@Jack still wondering why you think the Davids are the superior tribe because none of them are particularly good individually and as collective their self-victimizing narrative about being the underdogs SUCKS?

[JerseyWins]

@Jack still wondering why you think the Davids are the superior tribe because none of them are particularly good individually and as collective their self-victimizing narrative about being the underdogs SUCKS?
They're all pretty solid individually besides definitely Carl (what is his character even tbh) and maybe Nick (I'm personally undecided/or against him but he does seem to have some substance).

As a group.... not sure atm.

I don't like a specific tribe/group this season though... but I might slightly prefer the Goliaths I guess.

[JerseyWins]

Is Kara going this episode... I guess? :/

Can't see Angelina going on an invisible episode but it'd be kinda funny. Definitely could see Dan too though... I mean that would be the obvious result I guess :worry:

Oh waaaaaaaait... Nick has to present this before the vote? :omgno:

[JerseyWins]

Alison would be a pretty nice result, forgot about her :fc: Idk if they'd steal her vote AND vote her out tho :think:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Eh, Christian isn't particularly bothersome but nothing special, Gabby's weepy theatrics and self-victimizing oscillate between ironically hilarious and genuinely infuriating, and then Davie is annoying when he's shown?

[JerseyWins]

Ok Dan saving himself :clap1:

Now pleeeeease not Kara :( Oh snap... they're using the idol nullifier too. RIPPPPPPPPPP

[Macie Lightfoot]

The Idol Nullifier is hilariously infuriating :joker: but yes the Davids have their backs against the wall and are the underdogs and have been bullied this whole time!

[JerseyWins]

Dan </3 Not like this :(

[JerseyWins]

I don't understand how those votes went. :think: So some of the Goliaths went back to the split votes on Dan & Angelina plan?

[JerseyWins]

ROFL @

Gabby :skull:

Next episode :joker:

[Headie]

A great ep, SO happy to see smug Dan blindsided with an idol nullifier.

Want Christian, Nick and Mike out next.

[starry]

The only surprise by the tribal I thought was whose vote was stolen, it didn't make obvious sense. But maybe it didn't matter anyway, Dan was target whatever and that was expected. The effect of an advantage nullifier (taken from the Dutch Mole?) is that it makes even more sense to keep quiet about your advantages.

The Davids are getting cocky. And they made it very obvious that Christian was finding an idol, I wish they would do some audience fakeouts with idol hunts now and again.

[TomC]

Another good episode :clap1:

No more advantages pleeeease

I was thinking Angelina could go during tribal council and was amused that her only confessional in her final episode would be her crying over veggie burgers

I think it's pretty clear the winner is either Kara or Alison at this point

[Macie Lightfoot]

It's not Alison lmao

[Wizard.]

What another amazing tribal council :clap1: I screamed at them using the vote stealer on Allison, so I guess Alec/Kara told them that Allison wasn't flipping so they wanted to scare her. Dan's face going from smug to despair was hilarious but I felt slightly bad for him, I would be pissed off with that advantage. I still don't see the Goliaths falling apart, although Alec would be the weak spot because I feel like he would vote Angelina out next.

[TomC]

It's not Alison lmao

You really think she has no chance? She's only had two non-confessional episodes

[Macie Lightfoot]

Conversely, she's only had two episodes with any substantial content. The only person who I'd say has worse winning edit than her is maybe Alec, but that's it.

[Macie Lightfoot]

But yeah, over the weekend I rewatched the entire season bc reasons and Kara came off slightly better than I was giving her credit for? I made a post on another forum I'll copy/paste later, but there have been slight undertones about her "social charm" and I think that's part of Her Story. Last night was make or break for her and she had a pretty damn good episode with the Dan boot being told entirely from her perspective for no particular reason since she didn't even control the vote at all.

[MB.]

That was a good episode of the popular U.S. reality television series "Survivor"! And I look forward to next week's episode as, judging by the NTOS, the women will come together, form one giant four-headed entity and, like... eat Carl whole! Bing indeed!

(also I'm so so so bad at doing edgic, but... is there a chance that we got a rare sighting of MORPgelina this week? :love:) (edit: yeah nvm everyone has her as UTR, as if all those veggie burgers died for nothing)

[MB.]

Anyway I'm off to give thanks to Angelina and eat a turkey made entirely of veggie burgers, don't mind me

[TomC]

Conversely, she's only had two episodes with any substantial content. The only person who I'd say has worse winning edit than her is maybe Alec, but that's it.

Carl's edit is more winnery than Alison's? :skull: idk I just feel like the text Alison has come to the fore as a big ~strategist~ at this point really says something. What do u think her edit is?

[MB.]

Personally the fact that they had to re-use the same Kara confessional in about five different contexts gives me a certain amount of optimism as to the... general direction of her story arc

[reece(:]

Carl's edit is more winnery than Alison's? :skull: idk I just feel like the text Alison has come to the fore as a big ~strategist~ at this point really says something. What do u think her edit is?

Her edit reminds me of Andrea in Game Changers (Obviously Andrea is superior tho)

[MB.]

If Alison was ultimately crucial to the season's narrative then I feel her pre-merge development would have been more extensive than "doctors are bad! also here's Gabby"

[Macie Lightfoot]

Carl's edit is more winnery than Alison's? :skull: idk I just feel like the text Alison has come to the fore as a big ~strategist~ at this point really says something. What do u think her edit is?

I think her edit is garbage lmao. She didn't any screentime until the swap when Gabby cried to her about the boy's club in episode 6, and then she just had a bunch of empty content tonight about resumes and big moves. There is no storyline, she has the lowest collective visibility out of anyone, and she doesn't have any developed relationships with anyone that are told from her perspective. Carl's certainly not winning either but he at least had a decently strong first few episodes with his relationships with Davie and Jessica and finding the Nullifier, which had to be shown but was still edited in his favor. Alison...... is a doctor who Jeff used to illustrate all the advantages that Goliaths have in life. She ain't winning.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Anyway, here's my obnoxious "Kara is WINNING" post I made on another forum over the weekend...

As for contenders...... I kinda hate myself for it but I think I'm on the Kara train now http://i.imgur.com/1u762Wd.gif like she's just BARELY ahead of Christian for me, but I can't shake the feeling that he's our 5th/4th placer fan favorite who was really a robbed goddess and would've won if he wasn't such a big threat. I definitely don't think that Kara's edit is *great* by any means, but rewatching all of the episodes this weekend made me realize that there's like just barely enough of a story being told with her? Right on the boat on the premiere Jeff is talking about how Survivor is about David versus Goliath, the underdog versus the favorite, and then he says the SOCIALLY AWKWARD, with the camera panning to Gabby, versus THE NATURALLY CHARMING, with the camera panning to none other than Kara! And then all throughout the season we see Kara's natural charm pull Dan in even though she thinks he's a ****ing imbecile, we see her immediately work her natural charm with Elizabeth as soon as they swap tribes, and we see her work her natural charm doing damage control after Natalia's boot!

I totally agree that it's a bit of a red flag that she doesn't really talk much about her game or strategy and that her only truly fleshed out relationship is with Dan, but I don't know who has a better edit than her. I had Christian reluctantly as my #1 until this week, but now as it stands I'm at like 50% Kara, 40% Christian, 10% Nick. I also definitely agree that Kara's next episode is pivotal and she needs to have a good one to keep her in it. I'm not too alarmed that she's been a nonfactor for the first two merge episodes bc I'm pretty sure a few other [female] winners have been in that position before, and it definitely helps that she's being shielded yet again from the Goliath's being blindsided, but she can't go three episodes into the merge without any pivotal content. Next week could be make or break for her.


And yes, I am fully aware that this post is borderline on par with maddog's soliloquies about Devon and Rolo's kimbrina.mp4 video, but thisismytruth.gif

[Black Dagger]

Is legend John Hennigan still in?

[MB.]

Is legend John Hennigan still in?

No :( but his jacket is

[Wizard.]

Is legend John Hennigan still in?

He appears for 5 seconds at the end of each episode.

[TomC]

I think her edit is garbage lmao. She didn't any screentime until the swap when Gabby cried to her about the boy's club in episode 6, and then she just had a bunch of empty content tonight about resumes and big moves. There is no storyline, she has the lowest collective visibility out of anyone, and she doesn't have any developed relationships with anyone that are told from her perspective. Carl's certainly not winning either but he at least had a decently strong first few episodes with his relationships with Davie and Jessica and finding the Nullifier, which had to be shown but was still edited in his favor. Alison...... is a doctor who Jeff used to illustrate all the advantages that Goliaths have in life. She ain't winning.

I see your point. I've not considered narratives as such bc like I didn't think every winner had one lol. Like what was Michelle's?


What kind of place/boot do you think Alison's edit suggests?

I'm probs just wishfully thinking as a like ha lol.

[Wizard.]

I feel like there’s no way Allison adapts because she’s gonna be butthurt that the David’s stole her vote so she’s not gonna work with them

[MB.]

I see your point. I've not considered narratives as such bc like I didn't think every winner had one lol. Like what was Michelle's?

Michele's arc was all about how she'd use her natural charm and social skills to win (her playing of Nick, her beauty girls alliance), and considering that's how she won, it's probably one of the more straightforward winning narratives

Compare that to something similar, like Sarah's "playing like a criminal" or Sandra's "as long as it's not me", or something completely dissimilar, like whatever the hell Adam's edit was supposed to be

[Macie Lightfoot]

I see your point. I've not considered narratives as such bc like I didn't think every winner had one lol. Like what was Michelle's?


What kind of place/boot do you think Alison's edit suggests?

I'm probs just wishfully thinking as a like ha lol.

MB covered it but with Michele you also had her get a solid premiere explaining how she thinks her experience as a bartender will help her social skills in the game, her "Bro, I know!" moment, and just a general sense of how the show kept shoehorning Michele content into a lot of the episodes where it didn't seem necessary. Kinda like how last night was largely a Kara-centric episode about how she needs to set herself free from Dan in order to succeed even though she ultimately had nothing to do with him going home.

As for Alison, she's gonna be 5th place at the very best. I'd put my money on her being an underdeveloped early boot in the final or one of the two boots next week (we get two hours of Survivor everyone x). She won't be in the final four.

[MB.]

I can't believe we've gone through half a season only managing to draw Janet-from-The-Good-Place parallels with Alison when Dan is, in terms of both physical similarity and exact personality type, Mac from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia

Speaking of which, I'm not sure if anyone has seen Ponderosa yet, but while watching the A Special Message from Brochachos, Inc. skit - which, firstly, wow, Ponderosa finally got a budget, and secondly, wow, it got a writing team - I had to at several points remind myself that I wasn't watching a more experimental episode of It's Always Sunny... it was quite the experience

(also apologies to the Satanists among us for not preserving the coveted "666 replies" for longer)

[Calderyon]

I can´t see past Christian winning, his edit is very strong. Kara´s suggest that she is in the final or close to it, but i don´t see her winning.

Allison´s edit is not strong enough for her to be a winner. Gabby´s edit is more crying than anything else. Davie started with a good one, but it´s running out of steam.

Carl: Mixed. Hero or D-bag. You decide.
Nick: Comes of as more of a follower to others.
Mike and Alec: Goliath strong.
Angelina: I played my absolute hardest, but ended up short. Kind of an edit that means that means that they will be seen again on an another season at some point.

[JerseyWins]

I'm almost fully expecting a David to win this season (and I agree Christian probably has one of the best shots out of them). But if it's a Goliath I have to also think Kara has the best shot after last episode? :fc: Does Alec really not have a shot btw? I'm not saying I expect him to win but I'd think he could win more than some others (Carl and some/most of the Goliaths).

Davie maybe has a shot but I don't expect him to win either. I see him as like the Jay/Dr. Mike type of finale boot... and idk if there's actually any edit/edgic correlation besides being the one I would likely be rooting for going in and leaving pretty early in the final episode lol.

I could see Mike being a final 3 contender but even if he does get there it'd probably be as a goat on finale.

[JerseyWins]

What if Angelina won this season? :skull: And is there ANY possibility behind her edit? :joker:

[Wizard.]

Ugh Dan is so hot in Ponderosa :love:

[starry]

Christian's target has just increased further with his idol.

[Calderyon]

Christian's target has just increased further with his idol.

Maybe, but so far only David's know about it.

And more often than not idol bearers have ended up as the winner.

[Calderyon]

I'm almost fully expecting a David to win this season (and I agree Christian probably has one of the best shots out of them). But if it's a Goliath I have to also think Kara has the best shot after last episode? :fc: Does Alec really not have a shot btw? I'm not saying I expect him to win but I'd think he could win more than some others (Carl and some/most of the Goliaths).

Davie maybe has a shot but I don't expect him to win either. I see him as like the Jay/Dr. Mike type of finale boot... and idk if there's actually any edit/edgic correlation besides being the one I would likely be rooting for going in and leaving pretty early in the final episode lol.

I could see Mike being a final 3 contender but even if he does get there it'd probably be as a goat on finale.

As soon as theme was revealed I thought a David is going to win.

[JerseyWins]

When I think about his edit I guess it doesn't make the most sense for Alec to win when he went from needing to get with the Davids to now being Goliath strong. But he might still have time since he did say things like "when the moment is right" or "when the Goliaths crumble"

I agree though it's felt more like a David win since the theme was presented... unless it's being pushed so much that it's actually the opposite :fan:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Alec was also invisible for the entire premerge minus the Natalia boot, and he's banned from the reunion, so no he's probably not winning.

As for whether a David or a Goliath wins... all signs seemingly point to a David victory but the question is if it's intentional editing or just Probst jerking himself off to the theme yet again?

[Jack_]

Another good ep, this season is a lot of fun!

@Jack still wondering why you think the Davids are the superior tribe because none of them are particularly good individually and as collective their self-victimizing narrative about being the underdogs SUCKS?

I just find them more likeable and rootable? Christian is my favourite, I’m finding Davie funnier every ep, Carl the same, I find Gabby really sweet/endearing (similar to why I like Christian but a tad different) and Nick is okay too. The only person I have any interest in on the Goliath’s is Angelina (Natalie was my original favourite) :shrug: I don’t mind Mike but he’s just trying to enable a result I don’t want, Alec & Dan...bleh, not for me. I couldn’t tell you a thing about Kara and when Alison appeared on screen this episode, no word of a lie I genuinely went “who the hell is that?”

[AarynGriesfan]

Alec was also invisible for the entire premerge minus the Natalia boot, and he's banned from the reunion, so no he's probably not winning.

As for whether a David or a Goliath wins... all signs seemingly point to a David victory but the question is if it's intentional editing or just Probst jerking himself off to the theme yet again?


I think a David probably wins but if a Goliath wins its probably Kara. She's really the only one with a good edit out of that group.

[LemonJam]

BING!
- Carl "Cowdaddy" Boudreaux

[Headie]

1066153132856619008

Chrissy scalped him

[MB.]

I guess Dan won't be getting to see his sweet Kelly!

[JerseyWins]

I took a look at Chrissy's twitter and I never realized (or at least totally forgot) she's from New Jersey :love: There's so many RTV people that are from NJ that I love without even knowing that's where they're from :joker:

[iRyan]

I had given up on Survivor the last few seasons, but I just starting binging this season and it’s fantastic! A ton of fun and unpredictable. Dan’s elimination this week was ****ing amazing, glad that smug asswipe is gone. Angelina dodging two massive bullets the last two episodes was amazing to watch as well. I’m glad this season has stayed great even after Queen Natalie’s exit.

Rooting for Christian, Gabby, and Angelina atm. Also liking Carl and Kara.

[TomC]

perchedT for the double episode, SO happy we've been blessed w such a good season, ghost island was such a terrible season for me to start watching live on

too bad season38 sounds like a bloody car crash!

[MB.]

Make the most of them doing this instead of squashing two boots into a single ep, because we're back to one-hour premieres next season!

[TomC]

Make the most of them doing this instead of squashing two boots into a single ep, because we're back to one-hour premieres next season!

Yep I heard about this :skull:

[reece(:]

Make the most of them doing this instead of squashing two boots into a single ep, because we're back to one-hour premieres next season!

Throw the whole show away

[Macie Lightfoot]

Okay but we can at least hope for Island of Extinction to be a hilariously bad car crash. Like a BBUS9 rather than a 19.

[JerseyWins]

I don't remember the preview at all for this week but just based on random gut instinct I feel like one of Alec (:/) or Angelina (:fc:) will go tonight... or maybe both.

[JerseyWins]

Also what's the tea on S38? :think:

[JerseyWins]

Angelina :skull:

[JerseyWins]

This actually feels like it could be her boot episode :fc:

[reece(:]

This actually feels like it could be her boot episode :fc:

Just like the past five?

[JerseyWins]

Just like the past five?
Nah none of those were really her boot episode! Maybe one :fan:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Can Alec do a backflip onto my face x

[JerseyWins]

I think I want CARL out most, even over Angelina or mega-bore Alison? He went from invisible yet kinda annoying to more visible but way more annoying recently :skull:

[JerseyWins]

Pull through Kara! And save Alec this week :fc:

I really feel like this is coming down to Christian or Kara to win :omgno:

[Macie Lightfoot]

"Oh, she's doing yoga?" THE PEOPLE LOVE ANGELINA

[JerseyWins]

This is the "everyone give their pitch as the winner in their confessionals" episode :joker:

[Calderyon]

Just throw the idol in the camp and let people fight for it.

[JerseyWins]

Just throw the idol in the camp and let people fight for it.
When Cagayan had everyone openly searching for the idol at the same time like they were ready to fight for it :love:

[reece(:]

When Cagayan had everyone openly searching for the idol at the same time like they were ready to fight for it :love:

Morgan just watching them get on with it cos she couldn't be arsed :love:

[JerseyWins]

Alec speaking it into existence @ Gabby dropping :hehe:

Morgan just watching them get on with it cos she couldn't be arsed :love:
:joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

BEAST MODE GABBY crying beyond the point of parody :love:

[JerseyWins]

Christian getting the sympathy immunity win </3

Nah not really I'm sure Alec just couldn't go anymore but daaaang I wanted him to win that one badly :(

So edit-wise this is just Alec so far?

Come on Angelina, annoy them! :fist:

[Calderyon]

Alec´s gone.

Great job from Christian winning immunity.

[JerseyWins]

Rofl Gabby :love:

[JerseyWins]

Yeahhhhh I really don't see Carl going this episode at all but I guess we'll see. Alec </3

I'd be more inclined to believe the Davids taking out... say Angelina... to stay David strong and then take Carl out next or something. But it was not even hinted in the edit :bored:

[JerseyWins]

I like how John & Dan keep whispering to each other while Elizabeth is just sat there next to them :joker:

[JerseyWins]

It seems somewhat possible Carl goes but the thing is I don't see how Christian & Gabby decide to take out Carl without Nick involved in the decision :shrug: (without even considering they'd be down by 1 David again as well)

[JerseyWins]

Damn... was it unanimous too? :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Carl suuuuuucks btw

[JerseyWins]

Angelina for part 2 of the episode please!

[Macie Lightfoot]

Who else murdered their patients and won? Maggie.

Alison is WINNING.

[JerseyWins]

Davie DUNKING it in :laugh2:

[JerseyWins]

Lmao @ how drunk Carl & Davie are

[JerseyWins]

Omg Kara is WINNING pleeeeease?!?! :love:

[JerseyWins]

I've been hating on him particularly this episode but drunk Carl is a bit of a howl ngl

(He's sucking back at camp tho)

[JerseyWins]

That Christian confessional is gold :laugh3:

[Macie Lightfoot]

CARL THE DRUNK GODFATHER <333333333333

Angelina replacing Gabby <333333

[JerseyWins]

When Christian said something like "the Godfather summoned me to his bedside and told me, it's gonna be Alison" :laugh2: He was so animated in that confessional and explained that scene perfectly, that was hilarious!

[Calderyon]

Carl´s going. Maybe.

[Macie Lightfoot]

QUOTE THIS POST IF YOU STANGELINA x

[JerseyWins]

"In a way she's right but she's still aggravating every step of the way"

Mike speaking the truth :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

FIND A SPOT IN THE GRASS asdfjkl;

[JerseyWins]

This is Angelina's BIG Survivor moment everybody

[Calderyon]

Carl is maybe too much of an obvious choice?

That middle part made me think maybe Angelina goes?

[Calderyon]

I mean i´m not sure if Christian could betray Nick at this point who has been a close ally to him.

[Calderyon]

Well i guess it´s not going to be Angelina. Well it was false hope more like.

Between Alison and Carl then.

[JerseyWins]

Carl is maybe too much of an obvious choice?

That middle part made me think maybe Angelina goes?
Looks like it's still between Carl or Alison

I'd definitely bet on Carl going if I had to but I guess I could see it the other way too. Either way this one is a great result :clap1:

Surely it wouldn't make sense for any of the Goliaths to not take their shot at a David when they have the shot? :think: (Besides Angelina I guess but who knows what she's doing/planning from this point :joker:)

[JerseyWins]

I mean i´m not sure if Christian could betray Nick at this point who has been a close ally to him.
That IS true hmm.. kinda the same case as last boot but in this case, why would he tell Gabby and come up with this plan then? :think:

[JerseyWins]

God why does Angelina keep surviving?

[JerseyWins]

Yuuuup the Godfather gone :clap1:

Second part of that episode was really solid and now I'm REALLY looking forward to next episode as things get blurred from here! :worry:

[Calderyon]

God why does Angelina keep surviving?

She is going to survive until final and leave there. Either 5th or in the fire challenge.

[JerseyWins]

OMGGG WHAT @ the episode preview :laugh2:

Gabby wanting CHRISTIAN out? :skull: :skull: :skull: :laugh2:

[Calderyon]

Wow at that preview.

But since it was shown it´s most likely not happening.

[Calderyon]

OMGGG WHAT @ the episode preview :laugh2:

Gabby wanting CHRISTIAN out? :skull: :skull: :skull: :laugh2:

Risky and imo quite stupid move. Especially after the episode we just saw.

[Macie Lightfoot]

HMMMM Calderyon hating Angelina and Sandra, two outspoken WINNING Latina women? .........x

[JerseyWins]

Please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please don't put Sandra, Angelina, and WINNING in the same sentence ty

[AarynGriesfan]

So who's winning this thing macie?

[JerseyWins]

Well Macie knows a whole lot more about the edgic stuff but my pick for most to least likely based on regular shmegular watching:

(although I feel like I've been trying to dissect the editing more than ever this season lol)

1. Kara
2. Christian
3. Davie (I COULD see it more than most and maybe it's wishful thinking... :fc: but I feel like it's coming down to Kara or Christian really)
4. Nick
5. Angelina (ffs I feel like I can see it happening in a weird world, maybe even more than Nick or Davie)
6. Alison
7. Gabby (idk I guess I see her more of a final goat but I felt like she could win a few weeks ago)
8. Mike (same as Gabby but like... way more)

[JerseyWins]

Thing is.. the way this episode went I now feel like the season WILL be turning back to the Goliaths before the end :think: Or at least one Goliath could easily sneak by to be in winning contention

[iRyan]

Angelina continues to be iconic

Gabby rising as the new supreme <333

[TomC]

"Oh, she's doing yoga?" THE PEOPLE LOVE ANGELINA

This was a scream.

I would have ****ing HATED mike if he'd taken out Ali-god.

Alec </3 He was such a great UTR villain.

[TomC]

Angelina's negotiation :love:

[starry]

The second episode in that double bill was way better than the first, they even switched up the immunity challenge from the usual thing. The result of the first ep was predictable after immunity was decided.

The second ep wasn't a big surpise because of the edit, but the result was satisfying. I doubt many like Carl, Davie is also very annoying (this stupid 'black card' stuff, like some have to live up to a stereotype, a thing you see and sometimes it makes for bad situations).

I liked Mike mentioning 'Election', which I saw two decades back.

[Wizard.]

Angelina becomes more iconic each episode the negotiation was hilarious :laugh: And her going on about it at tribal so the jurors could hear it :love: I also loved Davie this episode too! I wonder what will happen now and whether those who voted Carl out stick together but tbh I just see Gabby going soon.

[TomC]

Mike needs to get his comeuppance he's been such a weak-ass flipper the whole season and he sits there in his confessionals w that grin like he's won the thing

[MB.]

QUOTE THIS POST IF YOU STANGELINA x

You best believe I'll be quoting this on every page of every thread on this goddamn forum

(also, I was beginning to wonder if that episode was going to be two hours of them giving us Carl Boot Blue Balls with no pay-off, so... yay for that not being the case? Gabby and Alison going "DING!" in unison at the end, bless their hearts :love:)