2018/19 Premier League discussion thread

[Denver]

More pressure piled on Citeh, they slip up once they know they have lost the title

[Alf]

There is only one result that matters on Merseyside today. And that's the hammering of the Mancs by the Super Blues.

[Crimson Dynamo]

well done man u what a way to prepare for the big derby...

:idc:

[Shaun]

Nobody wants to finish top 4 it seems

[GiRTh]

Mustafi is a liability. Three years he's been at Arsenal and still making stupid schoolboy errors. He wont ever be a top defender and to think we paid 35 million for the joker.

[Alf]

You Arsenal fans have a long time to wait until silverware come a'calling again. You're in the same spot as Manchester United, needing to rebuild the club culture again from the bottom up.

The best players who want to come to London would rather join Spurs, Chelsea and maybe even West Ham before you. Your appeal has gone.

[GiRTh]

Agree. There is only 45 million to spend in the summer and that is no where near enough when you think Pep spent 150 million on defenders two years ago. Many compare Emery to Klopps first years at Liverpool but Klopp had Coutinho who could be sold for 100 million. We dont have any players of that value so I suspect its gonna be a few more years before we are able to compete again.

[Alf]

Agree. There is only 45 million to spend in the summer and that is no where near enough when you think Pep spent 150 million on defenders two years ago. Many compare Emery to Klopps first years at Liverpool but Klopp had Coutinho who could be sold for 100 million. We dont have any players of that value so I suspect its gonna be a few more years before we are able to compete again.Great, iconic, successful managers are always hard to raplace, only Paisley replacing Shankley stands out as a one off, but then he was Shankley's number 2.

Fergie and Wenger was always going to be difficult, because they built the greatest of cultures at their clubs, and if you can't match it, then you fail.

Manchester United were stupid to get rid of Moyes so soon, if he was given a chance to put his philosophies in place, they could be moving in the right direction now.

You need to scout a good manager who needs a break and to be given a chance with a big club, and then give him time (maybe 3-5 years) to put his seeds in place and then you might get some fruits growing again.

But I can imagine you're gonna go through the manager merry go round, and just get journeyman managers.

[GiRTh]

The state of the squad is very much Wengers fault. Mustafi, Xhaka etc are both Wenger signings and no where near good enough for the Premiership. Running down Aaron Ramseys contract was something Wenger did with Oxlade-Chamberlain, Wilshire, Sanchez, Ozil, Walcott etc. yet every couple of years we were hearing Wengers new contract. :puzzled: He took care of himself but not the players. Arsenal at the time were structured so Wenger definitely had a say in how the contract were handled.

I like Emery, at least I can see what he's trying to do while with Wenger I was completely confused with some of his game plans and tactics. The problem is the Chairman. I dont understand how with the mega TV deals Premiership teams have why there is only about 45 million to spend.

[Alf]

The state of the squad is very much Wengers fault. Mustafi, Xhaka etc are both Wenger signings and no where near good enough for the Premiership. Running down Aaron Ramseys contract was something Wenger did with Oxlade-Chamberlain, Wilshire, Sanchez, Ozil, Walcott etc. yet every couple of years we were hearing Wengers new contract. :puzzled: He took care of himself but not the players. Arsenal at the time were structured so Wenger definitely had a say in how the contract were handled.

I like Emery, at least I can see what he's trying to do while with Wenger I was completely confused with some of his game plans and tactics. The problem is the Chairman. I dont understand how with the mega TV deals Premiership teams have why there is only about 45 million to spend.I think it became a bit harder for Wenger in the end. For most of his time, he only really had Chelsea in London and only really Manchester United, nationwide, to compete with for signing the best players. But with the emergence of Spurs in London and Manchester City and Liverpool, nationwide, then it became more competitive to sign the best.

Just remember Wenger is the man that brought top tier players like Bergkamp and Henry to Arsenal, they're the calibre of players he would have liked playing for him.

[GiRTh]

Wengers is Arsenals greatest ever manager, for sure, but he made a lot of mistakes. I agree that when he came to club Man U were the biggest rival and then of Chelsea but its not about that for me. Wenger obviously came here with advanced knowledge of the European scouting system and that can be seen in the signing of the like of Vieira and Henry. (BTW Bergkamp was already at the club when Wenger arrived) but he didnt take it to the next level and eventually everyone caught up with his scouting methods, improved on them and starting signing the top talent in Europe. Wenger was far too much of a control freak , for me. He didnt adapt, he thought his methods were always the best and finally everybody worked him and his teams out.

[Alf]

Wengers is Arsenals greatest ever manager, for sure, but he made a lot of mistakes. I agree that when he came to club Man U were the biggest rival and then of Chelsea but its not about that for me. Wenger obviously came here with advanced knowledge of the European scouting system and that can be seen in the signing of the like of Vieira and Henry. (BTW Bergkamp was already at the club when Wenger arrived) but he didnt take it to the next level and eventually everyone caught up with his scouting methods, improved on them and starting signing the top talent in Europe. Wenger was far too much of a control freak , for me. He didnt adapt, he thought his methods were always the best and finally everybody worked him and his teams out.Did Rioch sign Bergkamp? How did he manage to pull off a coup like that?

Well let's say that Wenger built his team around Bergkamp.

Sometimes it's just that one star signing that can make all the difference, I don't think Arsenal have signed that kind of player since Henry. And Wenger did try, because he signed Ozil, but it turned out he wasn't as good as expected.. I think the failure to keep hold of Fabragas didn't help, he was looking like the man to carry you.

[GiRTh]

Did Rioch sign Bergkamp? How did he manage to pull off a coup like that?

Well let's say that Wenger built his team around Bergkamp.

Sometimes it's just that one star signing that can make all the difference, I don't think Arsenal have signed that kind of player since Henry. And Wenger did try, because he signed Ozil, but it turned out he wasn't as good as expected.. I think the failure to keep hold of Fabragas didn't help, he was looking like the man to carry you.Rioch signed Bergkamp but the credit should go Arsenals old chairman David Dein. He's the one who actually signed Bergkamp. Apparently, according to folk lore, he had a hand written contract and told Bergkmp that he would not let him leave the room till he signed it. The club lost alot when he resigned and Kronke took over.

[Shaun]

Guess this is where the title gets decided, then :worry:

[Denver]

United so far the better team :clap1:

[GiRTh]

****** me 2-nil to Wolves. :facepalm:

[Ramsay]

I've always loved Wolves :love:

[Denver]

Hahaha hopefully it will spur Unitied on when they see the result

[Alf]

They need that first goal, if they get it, they'll take United to the cleaners, the longer it goes on at nil nil, United could end up nicking it.

[thisisdanny]

I still think if United beat City tonight then it's not quite over for them cos Liverpool have Wolves on the final day which clearly won't be easy

[Denver]

I still think if United beat City tonight then it's not quite over for them cos Liverpool have Wolves on the final day which clearly won't be easy

A game which is at Anfield which is hard for any team, no team has won there in the league in years

[Denver]

Hopefully United win then Citeh get the jitters at Burnley and drop points then Rafa can finally win us that league title

[Denver]

You got to think how long till Nuno says at Wolves, he has beatost of the top 6 in his 1st season so I wouldnt be surprised to see his name banded around this summer

[Alf]

Go on the Citizens

[Denver]

This will hopefully spur on Unitied

[Denver]

**** off

[Denver]

So we are relying on Burnley to help out

[Nicky91]

poor Spurs who have shorter rest time than Ajax :laugh3: :laugh3:


spurs have to play a match this weekend, ajax doesn't we are already preparing for the champions league match

[Crimson Dynamo]

poor Spurs who have shorter rest time than Ajax :laugh3: :laugh3:


spurs have to play a match this weekend, ajax doesn't we are already preparing for the champions league match

Most players prefer to play, all Ajax have done is made this a huge stressful wait for the game

i think it will backfire

[Nicky91]

Most players prefer to play, all Ajax have done is made this a huge stressful wait for the game

i think it will backfire

nope, we did this same strategy before real madrid, juventus matches :D


hoping one or two spurs players more become injured now, so they have a bigger b-squad against us :smug:

[Shaun]

If we hadn't lost at home to ****ing CRYSTAL PALACE we would have 3rd place sealed ffs

Such a garbage season (aside from the quality of the top 2 obviously)

[michael21]

If we hadn't lost at home to ****ing CRYSTAL PALACE we would have 3rd place sealed ffs

Such a garbage season (aside from the quality of the top 2 obviously)

Today result :laugh:

[GiRTh]

If we hadn't lost at home to ****ing CRYSTAL PALACE we would have 3rd place sealed ffs

Such a garbage season (aside from the quality of the top 2 obviously):thumbs:

[michael21]

Who going to win I going to be watching on sky


And it's live

[Mystic Mock]

Good luck to Adam and Black Dagger today over the title race.

[thisisdanny]

Can't see it happening but I hope Liverpool win (Just because I'd like somebody new/underdogs to win)

So much quality from the top 2 this season though, made it such a good season to keep up with

[Denver]

Good luck to Adam and Black Dagger today over the title race.

I am so ****ing nervous

[Denver]

I really hope there is a twist today

[Cherie]

I can see City losing or drawing :laugh: don't know how anyone can claim they are coasting to the title, as that would indicate that they have no competition

[Denver]

1st blood to Liverpool

[thisisdanny]

I'm nervous for you Adam :p

[Cherie]

Pep is more nervous than Adam I think

[thisisdanny]

Can almost guarantee it'll be a last minute twist like the Man City/Man United drama a few years ago

[Tony Montana]

Can't see it happening but I hope Liverpool win (Just because I'd like somebody new/underdogs to win)

So much quality from the top 2 this season though, made it such a good season to keep up with

Same, I really hope Liverpool win.

[Denver]

Brighton have scored

[thisisdanny]

I'm shook

[Denver]

I feel so nervous

[thisisdanny]

Oop not 1-1

[Cherie]

City equalise :cheer2: why am I supporting City, things are bad :worry:

[Tony Montana]

Can almost guarantee it'll be a last minute twist like the Man City/Man United drama a few years ago

That was one of best edge of your seat moments. I still remember how infuriated I was when City scored that late winner in the last minute.

[Tony Montana]

Damn it!

[thisisdanny]

I can't breathe and I'm not even a City or Liverpool supporter :worry:

[Alf]

Are you seriously watching this rubbish when there's Challenge cup Rugby League on BBC 1

Get a grip of yourselves.

[Denver]

City scored again

[Tony Montana]

Oh ffs!

[thisisdanny]

Oh

[Denver]

One hing i can be proud of is we got here without fraud and lying about our finances unlike City

[michael21]

Last 45 of the season

And it's live

[GiRTh]

City's title to lose..

[Denver]

So City have cheated their way to another title

[Tony Montana]

Ugh not another City win.

[Denver]

When Uefa actually stop being **** scared of Citeh and punish them it will be a fairer league

[MTVN]

Get in!!!!

[Alf]

No prizes for being second best, unlucky!

[Alf]

Just need Spurs to do the job and Liverpool will win as much as Everton this season. Nowt!

[Denver]

Mane get in

[Denver]

Looks like Mane and Salah will both get Golden boot

[Nicky91]

hope arsenal won't win Europa league otherwise we got 5 english teams in CL next season :idc:

[GiRTh]

Thank the lord Liverpool didn't win the league. *phew*

[Denver]

We may not have won the league but we were the record breakers and we were the only team who dared to challenge Citeh, Makes me so excited for next season.

If we can cut a 20+ point gap in 1 year what can we do next?

[Denver]

Thank the lord Liverpool didn't win the league. *phew*

Yes because every true football fan supports the fake teams who are not where they are on merit

[bots]

So glad liverpool didnt win it :smug:

[Denver]

At least we will win the CL something Citeh will never get

[Nicky91]

my dad's number one team in england is Liverpool for a long time now :)

[Denver]

The only thing that pisses me off is the fact we won it against a team that has cheated their way to the t but i couldnt be more proud of m team

[GiRTh]

Looks like Mane and Salah will both get Golden boot
With Aubameyang. :joker::joker:

[Cherie]

United need a complete clear out, not even able to beat a relegated team at home, disgrace!

[Denver]

With Aubameyang. :joker::joker:

But still it's a massive achievement for 2 players from the same club to get it, when did that last happen?

[Denver]

United need a complete clear out, not even able to beat a relegated team at home, disgrace!

No player will wanna play under Ole

[Denver]

I'm saw Mane at 16/ to win the Golden Boot and almost put a tenner on but convinced myself it wouldnt happen

[Denver]

Can someone explain why they keep calling Man City the best team in the world? They cant even make a CL semi

[Alf]

So glad liverpool didnt win it :smug:Here here

[GiRTh]

But still it's a massive achievement for 2 players from the same club to get it, when did that last happen?Thats a good question . Never I reckon, but probably came close when Rooney and Ronaldo were at Man U or in the days of Cole and Yorke at Man U.

[GiRTh]

Can someone explain why they keep calling Man City the best team in the world? They cant even make a CL semiThey are :shrug:

[Tony Montana]

Thats a good question . Never I reckon, but probably came close when Rooney and Ronaldo were at Man U or in the days of Cole and Yorke at Man U.

When we were at our best :clap1:

[Tony Montana]

Embarrassing for United to end the season with a loss.

[Denver]

They are :shrug:

They will never be the best until they start taking the biggest competition in the world seriously,

The best team in the world dont lose the Quarter finals 4 years in a row

[GiRTh]

They will never be the best until they start taking the biggest competition in the world seriously,

The best team in the world dont lose the Quarter finals 4 years in a rowq085DuWWo6EThats cuz Pep overthinks big games.

[Denver]

q085DuWWo6EThats cuz Pep overthinks big games.

Which means he cant be the best in the world,

Which is why Klopp had to change his way of thinking he use to overthink now he doesnt and it shows,

It's just weird to think thought that the 3 technically best managers in the world are in the PL,

But who goes 1st? Poch will go when they lose the CL, Pep will most likely go when Citeh get the transfer ban and points deduction and Klopp has pretty much stated he will retire at Liverpool

[Denver]

Actually I can see Pep being tempted at returning to Barca

[GiRTh]

Which means he cant be the best in the world,

Which is why Klopp had to change his way of thinking he use to overthink now he doesnt and it shows,

It's just weird to think thought that the 3 technically best managers in the world are in the PL,

But who goes 1st? Poch will go when they lose the CL, Pep will most likely go when Citeh get the transfer ban and points deduction and Klopp has pretty much stated he will retire at LiverpoolKlopps teams usually fade after about three seasons though. Remember he nearly got the sack at Dortmund.

Poch will go the Man United. Ole isnt good enough and I cant see too many who are for. It will be much like when he was first at Spurs when he had bad characters in the team like Adebayor, Soldado etc. He got rid of the lot and was quite ruthless in doing so. Only someone like Poch would get away with that at Man U.

Pep is difficult to predict though. The money is there for him to dominate for years but Its up to him really.

[Alf]

Season over

Can I interest anyone in following the rugby league during the summer off season of football?

[Mystic Mock]

I am so ****ing nervous

You've had a fantastic season, 97 points is normally enough to crown Liverpool as champions.

That's really bad luck imo.

Congratulations to Man City though.

[Alf]

Football season over

Can I interest anyone in following the rugby league during the summer?

[Denver]

Klopps teams usually fade after about three seasons though. Remember he nearly got the sack at Dortmund.

Poch will go the Man United. Ole isnt good enough and I cant see too many who are for. It will be much like when he was first at Spurs when he had bad characters in the team like Adebayor, Soldado etc. He got rid of the lot and was quite ruthless in doing so. Only someone like Poch would get away with that at Man U.

Pep is difficult to predict though. The money is there for him to dominate for years but Its up to him really.

Klopp has had to change his style of play at Liverpool though which helps a lot and he now has 3 or 4 different formations up his sleeve something he never had at Dortmund,

I think Poch is of to Juventus for certain as Man U are a poison chalice that most managers at the top level will walk away from,

I think Piep wont want Citeh after all the punishment they will receive at the end of this investigation over fake income,

Barca will come calling but so will Madrid but I wouldnt be surprised to see PSG enter the market for Pep

[Cherie]

No player will wanna play under Ole

Don't be silly

[Denver]

Man U will be looking at a manager like Nuno is my guess or maybe the Watford manager

[Denver]

Don't be silly

So can you see the best players in the world turning down a chance to play in one of the best squads under one of the best managers to play under Ole and lose to relagted teams at Old Trafford?

They dont have the lure they once did and they cant afford to throw silly money at players like they did with Sanchez now no team will touch him

[GiRTh]

Klopp has had to change his style of play at Liverpool though which helps a lot and he now has 3 or 4 different formations up his sleeve something he never had at Dortmund,

I think Poch is of to Juventus for certain as Man U are a poison chalice that most managers at the top level will walk away from,

I think Pich wont want Citeh after all the punishment they will receive at the end of this investigation over fake income,

Barca will come calling but so will Madrid but I wouldnt be surprised to see PSG enter the market for PepIts the pressing that usually fades after three years. Just the sheer intensity of playing a full season takes it toll on the players, but Klopp does have a bigger squad than he had at Dortmund.

Poch to Juve could be interesting and Pep to PSG makes al t of sense TBH.

[GiRTh]

Man U will be looking at a manager like Nuno is my guess or maybe the Watford managerNuno might be an good idea as Man U are definitely 'a project' in their current state and he's been in charge of similar project at Wolves but I think Man U fans will demand a bigger name. Is Ancelotti availablee

[Denver]

Nuno might be an good idea as Man U are definitely 'a project' in their current state and he's been in charge of similar project at Wolves but I think Man U fans will demand a bigger name. Is Ancelotti availablee

Ancelotti is at Napoli and I doubt he will leave after one season for a job that wont be safe

[GiRTh]

Ancelotti is at Napoli and I doubt he will leave after one season for a job that wont be safeHe's done well at Napoli too.

[Denver]

Man U are in the same position we are when we could only attract Hodgson and Rodgers then if you are lucky a fantastic manager wanting a challenge will come along

[Denver]

Though Dyche or Howe may be tempted by Man U

[GiRTh]

1127609431078920192Ya Ya Toure at the Etihad.

[GiRTh]

Though Dyche or Howe may be tempted by Man UHowe might be good but Dyche would last half a season.

[bots]

Man U, Arsenal and Spurs won't be in contention in the next 5 years. It doesn't matter what manager they have, that will still be true.

[Denver]

Man U, Arsenal and Spurs won't be in contention in the next 5 years. It doesn't matter what manager they have, that will still be true.

Neither will Chelsea, they have a owner who lost interest brought in a manager who has never won anything then have their best player desperate to leave with added on transfer ban

[Denver]

Man U, Arsenal and Spurs won't be in contention in the next 5 years. It doesn't matter what manager they have, that will still be true.

Spurs would be in contention if Levy actually wanted to put money into the squad

[GiRTh]

Abramovich is trying to sell Chelsea so the the billionaire benefactor may be gone soon. They'll be in serious trouble when that happens. Man U are a mess and its gonna take a a three to five years project to get them out of it. Arsenal have a good manager with a terrible squad - except the strikers - They need investment from the chairman but I heard there is only about 45 million to spend. However Barca want Lacazette and if they make a 70 million plus offer then we've no choice but to sell him and use the money to strengthen the squad.

[Denver]

Allison has 21 clean sheets the second most in PL history

TAA 13 assists is the most by a defender in PL History

Liverpool's Points tally is enough to win the league in all but 1 of the previous seasons (not counting this one)

Liverpool are the only team to lose one game yet not win the league

No team has conceded less then Liverpool this season who conceded 16 less then last season

Liverpool are the only team in history to have 2 players win the Golden Boot

Klopp needs to win manager of the year for creating history

[Denver]

Also for the first time in history the top 3 goal scores are all African

[Denver]

Abramovich is trying to sell Chelsea so the the billionaire benefactor may be gone soon. They'll be in serious trouble when that happens. Man U are a mess and its gonna take a a three to five years project to get them out of it. Arsenal have a good manager with a terrible squad - except the strikers - They need investment from the chairman but I heard there is only about 45 million to spend. However Barca want Lacazette and if they make a 70 million plus offer then we've no choice but to sell him and use the money to strengthen the squad.

If you sell your 2 strikers you are pretty much doomed because there is not many 20 goal a season strikers out there and you will struggle to but the ones that are

[GiRTh]

If you sell your 2 strikers you are pretty much doomed because there is not many 20 goal a season strikers out there and you will struggle to but the ones that areExactly, but we have to think of the squad, in particular the defence. We got two strikers who scored over 25 goals in all competition and a 15 goal a season man in Ramsey but still couldnt break top four. We're in a mess too TBH, the chairman is the one who need to back the manager to get out of this mess.

[Denver]

Origi would be a great player for you but he has just won himself a contract

[GiRTh]

No thanks. No Origi. We may as well buy back Walcott. :nono::nono:

[Denver]

No thanks. No Origi. We may as well buy back Walcott. :nono::nono:

I think Origi suits your system better then ours and will never be more then a impact sub for us

[Denver]

Or you could try the championship like you use to

[GiRTh]

:conf::laugh:

We never buy players from other British clubs. Certainly not who go straight into the first team. Its one of the biggest problems I've always had with Wengers transfer policy; why was he buying players from teams half way up the French league when there were better players in the Uk IMO

Also, we dont need a backup striker. We need either defenders of genuine wide players.

[Denver]

:conf::laugh:

We never buy players from other British clubs. Certainly not who go straight into the first team. Its one of the biggest problems I've always had with Wengers transfer policy; why was he buying players from teams half way up the French league when there were better players in the Uk IMO

Also, we dont need a backup striker. We need either defenders of genuine wide players.
We will give you lovren free of charge

[GiRTh]

We will give you lovren free of chargeI'll take Lovren over Mustafi any day.:joker:

[Calderyon]

Congratulations Manchester City.

[GiRTh]

If Arsenal had won either of the games against Brighton or Palace at home last month we'd have made top four. If we'd won both we'd have finished third. *smh*

[bots]

if huddersfield hadn't lost so many games, they would have finished top 4 :hehe:

[GiRTh]

if huddersfield hadn't lost so many games, they would have finished top 4 :hehe:Those tight margins make or break a season. :whistle: