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Tony Montana
05-06-2018, 10:26 PM
One year after BB18 Launched, What are everyones opinions on fellow FM Raph.

Answer Truthfully and Honestly.

RileyH
05-06-2018, 10:26 PM
No

Barry.
05-06-2018, 10:27 PM
You first.

Oaker
05-06-2018, 10:28 PM
He was boring

Daniel.
05-06-2018, 10:30 PM
I thought he was ok but no.

I’ve gone off him since he turned on Isabelle

MB.
05-06-2018, 10:30 PM
He did a fine job of enabling the better alliance (and, in numerous cases, convincing them not to leave the house/throatpunch Ellie), but it's nothing that, like... Luke A didn't do better before him

(and at least Luke A managed to get a win out of it)

Jordan.
05-06-2018, 10:34 PM
No he just sat in Chanelles shadow with his teddy bear the entire series

Lostie!
05-06-2018, 10:35 PM
Not terrible but nothing special. His moral grandstanding was annoying and seemed like pandering (especially when it contradicted things he'd said on here) and I can't remember him really being a source of entertainment.

I only watched like half the series though.

Barry.
05-06-2018, 10:35 PM
He was ok. I really liked him in the house.

Vanessa
05-06-2018, 10:44 PM
He started off quiet, but then started to open up and got better and better. Love the way he stopped things escalating during fight night :love:

MB.
05-06-2018, 10:46 PM
He started off quiet

I mean, technically he started off telling the house he cheated with every partner he's been with and telling the world he voted for Trump

RileyH
05-06-2018, 10:47 PM
Love the way he stopped things escalating during fight night :love:

Boring sod

Vanessa
05-06-2018, 10:48 PM
Boring sod

he was great :love:

Cal.
05-06-2018, 10:51 PM
He was okay at furthering the story line to be pro Chanelle, Issy and the sisters but wasn’t really a good housemate in himself.

JerseyWins
05-06-2018, 10:55 PM
Just end this thread after the first word of the first reply

Not too in-your-face while still standing up for things he believed in in the house. Great positive energy (with his attitude & smile). :clap1: Chill yet entertaining... and not there just trying to get as many instagram/twitter followers as possible like many others clearly were.

Marsh.
05-06-2018, 10:55 PM
*fake cries with whiskers*

JerseyWins
05-06-2018, 10:56 PM
*fake cries with whiskers*
:joker:

Vanessa
05-06-2018, 10:56 PM
Just end this thread after the first word of the first reply

Not too in-your-face while still standing up for things he believed in in the house. Great positive energy (with his attitude & smile). :clap1: Chill yet entertaining... and not there just trying to get as many instagram/twitter followers as possible like many others clearly were.

:love:

RileyH
05-06-2018, 10:56 PM
Just end this thread after the first word of the first reply

:smug:

Morgan.
05-06-2018, 11:00 PM
Loved him at the time but just kind of gone off him in almost every way since? Idk I think he seems to have lost his roots which is sad.

Morgan.
05-06-2018, 11:01 PM
Although I will say a lot of the criticism of him on here is very harsh and I think that's put him in the position where he's turned his back on where he was pre-BB.

montblanc
05-06-2018, 11:01 PM
i didn't dislike him but i wouldn't consider him a good housemate :skull:

Withano
05-06-2018, 11:10 PM
Liked him a lot. Not many memorable moments, but clearly a nice guy and a refreshing addition compared to the stereotype of a C5 bb housemate.

reece(:
05-06-2018, 11:12 PM
Nice guy, not the best housemate but on the right side of the house, and his "archetype" could've been a LOT worse.

Can't knock him for BSing his VT to live his dream, and now he's BFFs with queen Chanelle, and his idols from overseas (Willow and Naeha BBCan and Alex from BBOTT).

T*
06-06-2018, 12:05 AM
I thought he was ok but no.

I’ve gone off him since he turned on Isabelle

pretty much this

Tony Montana
06-06-2018, 12:06 AM
Is that Beef between him and Isabelle still going? I thought it ended months ago

T*
06-06-2018, 12:08 AM
Didn’t like him at first, started really liking him during the series (him & chanelle were cute) and then couldn’t really be arsed with him when all that drama was going on where they fell out with Isabelle and something just doesn’t feel right anymore.
Looking back there were better places for hm’s to be with Isabelle in the final 2 but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t good at the time

Eddie.
06-06-2018, 01:20 AM
He was nice, but boring.

He just stood in the shadows of the bigger characters and stayed UTR for most of the time...

Plus he acts desperate these days, especially to get on BBUS/BBCAN, by attending cast meetings and stuff when he isn’t involved at all...

Amy Jade
06-06-2018, 01:56 AM
I was open minded but swaying to like when Shaun said he was going in but his VT was awful and my first impression was bad and made worse by so many people here defending his cheating, that baffled me and I remember specifically me and Tom were basically called jealous of Raph because we were one of the very few who voiced our dislike.

I did warm to him as the series went on and I even voted to keep him in a few times but really it was just because he was associated with Chanelle and Issy. I was happy Issy beat him but would have been happy had he won.

That changed when he started being shady to Issy and he, Chanelle and the Javeeds started talking crap about her. I thought he came across really badly and his reapperance on here made me cringe, only acknowledging praise rather than answering anything worth reading.

All in all he was pretty dull but served a purpose I guess but he is obviously insanely envious Isabelle beat him which will always raise a smile for me.

Headie
06-06-2018, 02:03 AM
Nice guy, not the best housemate but on the right side of the house, and his "archetype" could've been a LOT worse.

Can't knock him for BSing his VT to live his dream, and now he's BFFs with queen Chanelle, and his idols from overseas (Willow and Naeha BBCan and Alex from BBOTT).

^all of this

Headie
06-06-2018, 02:04 AM
Although if we get the tea on Rachel Rice that could boost his tier!

LukeB
06-06-2018, 02:29 AM
Plus he acts desperate these days, especially to get on BBUS/BBCAN, by attending cast meetings and stuff when he isn’t involved at all...

I don’t really understand how him hanging out with bbusa/bbcan cast makes him desperate to be on those shows when he was invited by them, he would have to chill with Robyn Kass (probably what paul did after bb18)if he was desperate. A super fan getting that invite ofc he would go to see the housemates he supported he didn’t randomly turn up:joker: which would have been desperation but theres no harm in accepting an invitation for a meet up. Quite cute how bbuk/canada/usa had a mini meet up here for Tahan to turn up to add australia to the international meet up

Denver
06-06-2018, 06:12 AM
Has he tooks his head out of Chanelles ass yet

Matthew.
06-06-2018, 06:23 AM
i think so, i liked him.

DouglasS
06-06-2018, 06:24 AM
He did a fine job of enabling the better alliance (and, in numerous cases, convincing them not to leave the house/throatpunch Ellie), but it's nothing that, like... Luke A didn't do better before him

(and at least Luke A managed to get a win out of it)

Like A was prevalent from the beginning and was highly involved in the series. He had many conflicts with Luke S, Caroline and Becky. He had a lot of airtime and was one of the main characters of BB13 - I don’t get why people are saying he’s boring now?

Matthew.
06-06-2018, 06:24 AM
Although I will say a lot of the criticism of him on here is very harsh and I think that's put him in the position where he's turned his back on where he was pre-BB.

yeah, i think so too

DouglasS
06-06-2018, 06:27 AM
I’ve gone off him since the show - I think he disliked Rachel rice for not meeting him in person, but at least she replied to him after he won? He’s ignored practically everyone from TIBB since he entered the house, so it’s bizaree that he went off Rachel when he’s much worse himself?

AnnieK
06-06-2018, 06:43 AM
It was great to have a TiBB representation on BB. He blended in well but I wasn't keen on the bitchy side, running off to tell tales etc. I get that that's what BB is about to create divides and win votes but still it didn't sit well with me. I felt he got unnecessary praise and criticism on here just because he was a member. All in all an ok housemate, not terrible and not outstanding

Epic.
06-06-2018, 06:56 AM
It's rare for BB18 to have a good housemate but at the time he was one of the very few I could tolerate. Not one of my all time favourites but he had some great qualities like his conflict with Joe and his performance in fight night where he ran FASTER than the security guard :joker: Otherwise though, and I think he knows this too, he was in Chanelle's shadow a lot and considering how much more of value to the series she brought I prefer her much more. He also did some questionable things like in the task where they each had to save one housemate to save from eviction and he picked SUE despite her clashing with his best friend + the fact he knew Isabelle longer, or the pranking **** Josie advised him to do causing a weaker Impression on Sam Pepper when he was in the house. So all in all, an alright housemate but not a perfect one.

As for the Isabelle thing people keep mentioning, I dunno why that's being included in opinions since this is about Raph the housemate (even though 'FAAAAAKE' was still as forced as it is now).

Crimson Dynamo
06-06-2018, 07:10 AM
a spineless, sycophant cowtailing to any girl he thought would be popular

awful

Jøsh
06-06-2018, 07:17 AM
He was a bit of a boring character at the start of the series but towards the end he was showcasing the nicer side of him.

Gstar
06-06-2018, 08:00 AM
No one likes an adulterer

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
06-06-2018, 08:18 AM
Terrible housemate

smudgie
06-06-2018, 08:50 AM
Lovely lad, enjoyed watching him as a housemate.
I would have been very happy had he of won.

Mystic Mock
06-06-2018, 09:18 AM
I'd say that he was one of the biggest talking points of his year so I'd say he did a decent job.

Mystic Mock
06-06-2018, 09:26 AM
I was open minded but swaying to like when Shaun said he was going in but his VT was awful and my first impression was bad and made worse by so many people here defending his cheating, that baffled me and I remember specifically me and Tom were basically called jealous of Raph because we were one of the very few who voiced our dislike.

I did warm to him as the series went on and I even voted to keep him in a few times but really it was just because he was associated with Chanelle and Issy. I was happy Issy beat him but would have been happy had he won.

That changed when he started being shady to Issy and he, Chanelle and the Javeeds started talking crap about her. I thought he came across really badly and his reapperance on here made me cringe, only acknowledging praise rather than answering anything worth reading.

All in all he was pretty dull but served a purpose I guess but he is obviously insanely envious Isabelle beat him which will always raise a smile for me.

Does the BIB not make you think that Isabelle had done something wrong tbf? After all can 4 people be wrong against 1 person?

Amy Jade
06-06-2018, 11:14 AM
Does the BIB not make you think that Isabelle had done something wrong tbf? After all can 4 people be wrong against 1 person?

Yes they can. They were jealous of her win, they wanted Raph to win and he got beaten. Sour grapes because she didn't want to hang out with them every night for twitter likes imo

Vanessa
06-06-2018, 11:51 AM
Runner up is still a great result.

Marsh.
06-06-2018, 12:13 PM
Does the BIB not make you think that Isabelle had done something wrong tbf? After all can 4 people be wrong against 1 person?That's like asking if one girl is being ganged up and bullied by a gang of 6 other girls there must be something wrong with her and 6 girls can't all be in the wrong.

Really not liking the current trend of victim blaming.

Tony Montana
06-06-2018, 12:19 PM
Like A was prevalent from the beginning and was highly involved in the series. He had many conflicts with Luke S, Caroline and Becky. He had a lot of airtime and was one of the main characters of BB13 - I don’t get why people are saying he’s boring now?

Because he never Confronted the insiders, just bitched about them. He hated Caroline, Becky and Luke S But never said Anything to their Faces, even when he had the Chance.

T*
06-06-2018, 12:47 PM
I was open minded but swaying to like when Shaun said he was going in but his VT was awful and my first impression was bad and made worse by so many people here defending his cheating, that baffled me and I remember specifically me and Tom were basically called jealous of Raph because we were one of the very few who voiced our dislike.


this tea
that night was horrendous :umm2: we were talking about him as if he was any other HM and we got shouted down for deliberating about if his tears were real or not and what would you know? He became one of my favourites of the series... and naturally, instead of having him forced down our throats.

Macie Lightfoot
06-06-2018, 01:54 PM
Still wanna know what happened with him and Rachel......x

Amy Jade
06-06-2018, 02:18 PM
Still wanna know what happened with him and Rachel......x

He stalked her didn't he and when she asked him to leave her alone he flipped on her?

I read that somewhere...thought it was here but could have been twitter

Amy Jade
06-06-2018, 02:26 PM
this tea
that night was horrendous :umm2: we were talking about him as if he was any other HM and we got shouted down for deliberating about if his tears were real or not and what would you know? He became one of my favourites of the series... and naturally, instead of having him forced down our throats.

Remember feeling so frustrated by it. Anyone but Raph and most of those defending him would have been calling a serial cheat a scumbag.

We turned out to be right in the end though!

DouglasS
06-06-2018, 05:57 PM
Because he never Confronted the insiders, just bitched about them. He hated Caroline, Becky and Luke S But never said Anything to their Faces, even when he had the Chance.

He did confront BMi Becky - and no one confronted anyone in that series except Deana and maybe Lydia. Luke was apart of many storylines and was talked of from the start.

Denver
06-06-2018, 05:58 PM
He did confront BMi Becky - and no one confronted anyone in that series except Deana and maybe Lydia. Luke was apart of many storylines and was talked of from the start.

Please dont fat shame

Epic.
06-06-2018, 06:00 PM
Because he never Confronted the insiders, just bitched about them. He hated Caroline, Becky and Luke S But never said Anything to their Faces, even when he had the Chance.

He did actually confront Becky and him, Benedict and Adam were the only people to take on Cuntoline. I prefer him over Raph for outsider leaders.

Tony Montana
06-06-2018, 06:15 PM
He did confront BMi Becky - and no one confronted anyone in that series except Deana and maybe Lydia. Luke was apart of many storylines and was talked of from the start.

He did actually confront Becky and him, Benedict and Adam were the only people to take on Cuntoline. I prefer him over Raph for outsider leaders.

Other way around, She went up to him in the Garden. Before that all he did was Bitch about her all the time. He never had the Guts to make the first move at all.

When did he or Adam take on Caroline? They just bitched about her and let her continue her Bullying. They were quite afraid of her tbh. LMAO @ Adam, A former Gang Member who's spent time in Prison actually fearing a 20 year old Posh Girl.

I agree with Benedict tho. He was the only one to Put Caroline in her place and he was the True Alpha of that house. The Bullying didn't Really Begin until after he left.

Epic.
06-06-2018, 06:29 PM
Other way around, She went up to him in the Garden. Before that all he did was Bitch about her all the time. He never had the Guts to make the first move at all.

When did he or Adam take on Caroline? They just bitched about her and let her continue her Bullying. They were quite afraid of her tbh. LMAO @ Adam, A former Gang Member who's spent time in Prison actually fearing a 20 year old Posh Girl.

I agree with Benedict tho. He was the only one to Put Caroline in her place and he was the True Alpha of that house. The Bullying didn't Really Begin until after he left.

He argued back at Becky after her pathetic actress attempt of confronting him and he confronted Caroline while the stupid bitch wasn't able to defend herself after buying all the chocolate and Adam screamed near her because she's such a disgrace she wasn't worth him speaking to

Nicky91
07-06-2018, 11:52 AM
yes i liked him a lot

Elliot
07-11-2018, 07:41 PM
He’s overrated and over hated tbh. Really nothing special and **** knows how he got second but it’s not like it’s any more annoying than Luke a beating Deana. He ha basically no story arcs but did help anchor one of the best groups of people to ever come on this show, which inadvertently took the win off him in the form of Isabelle lol

Liam-
07-11-2018, 07:47 PM
No, I found him mostly dull, incredibly fake and it didn’t help that he attached himself to one of the most repugnant people to have ever been on the show in Chanelle, the constant virtue signalling did my nut in as well, I’m sure he’s a cool guy in real life, but as a housemate he was awful imo.

joeysteele
07-11-2018, 07:51 PM
Raph entertained me loads.
A great guy and a great housemate.
Always liked Raph on here and it was then brilliant to see him as a BB housemate.

Matthew.
07-11-2018, 07:54 PM
he was a nice guy

Black Dagger
07-11-2018, 07:54 PM
No

Morgan.
07-11-2018, 07:55 PM
He's so blatantly bitter that Issy beat him :skull:

Elliot
07-11-2018, 07:56 PM
And yeah the whole stint Chanelle Raph and javeeds pulled on issy after the series was cringy and **** but they were all alright in the house so :shrug:

Daniel.
07-11-2018, 07:57 PM
I scream when he said on here he knew he wouldn't win as a POC

Sis is white.

Tony Montana
07-11-2018, 07:59 PM
And yeah the whole stint Chanelle Raph and javeeds pulled on issy after the series was cringy and **** but they were all alright in the house so :shrug:

Has it ever been explained why they all turned on her? Was it out of pure Jealously and Bitterness that she won?

Liam-
07-11-2018, 08:03 PM
I scream when he said on here he knew he wouldn't win as a POC

Sis is white.

:skull:

Elliot
07-11-2018, 08:03 PM
Has it ever been explained why they all turned on her? Was it out of pure Jealously and Bitterness that she won?

Idts. Chanelle made a bunch of cryptic tweets. Maybe something went down, maybe chanelles just made she has one thing less to milk for twitter likes. Who knows?

Liam-
07-11-2018, 08:04 PM
What happened with them all after? I refused to keep up with them all after the show

Elliot
07-11-2018, 08:06 PM
What happened with them all after? I refused to keep up with them all after the show

Chanelle Raph Imran and sukhi berated n slated her on social media for weeks straight with a ****ton of cryptic posts and the worst inside joke in ‘FAKEEEEE’ and issy being the queen she is didn’t respond to any of it

Morgan.
07-11-2018, 08:07 PM
I scream when he said on here he knew he wouldn't win as a POC

Sis is white.

I said this and then someone on here accused me of racism :skull:

Liam-
07-11-2018, 08:09 PM
Chanelle Raph Imran and sukhi berated n slated her on social media for weeks straight with a ****ton of cryptic posts and the worst inside joke in ‘FAKEEEEE’ and issy being the queen she is didn’t respond to any of it

Ew they’re all trash

Tony Montana
07-11-2018, 08:18 PM
Chanelle Raph Imran and sukhi berated n slated her on social media for weeks straight with a ****ton of cryptic posts and the worst inside joke in ‘FAKEEEEE’ and issy being the queen she is didn’t respond to any of it

Surprised and Disappointed that Sukhvinder and Imran got involved. They didn't even know Isabelle so why the **** were they sticking their Nose in.

Amy Jade
07-11-2018, 08:27 PM
Just what I read on twitter but apparently they turned on Issy because she backed out of planned meet up with Sukhi, Imran, Raph and Chanelle to do a nightclub meet and greet so basically because she had work.

She paid for her and Chanelle to go on holiday though so it's not like she never made effort.

Elliot
07-11-2018, 08:59 PM
Surprised and Disappointed that Sukhvinder and Imran got involved. They didn't even know Isabelle so why the **** were they sticking their Nose in.

I loved sukhi Imran and Chanelle in the house, but they were embarrassing during this. So many people got behind Chanelle for calling out Ellie savannah and lotan for ganging up on issy, then she goes and does the same thing outside the house. A tragedy!

Elliot
07-11-2018, 09:02 PM
I scream when he said on here he knew he wouldn't win as a POC

Sis is white.

ddd what a ****ing nightmare. Like that’s the only reason, no it can’t be the fact he was barely shown, insufferably boring, did nothing of substance and was completely eclipsed by our tangerine queen!

Jack_
07-11-2018, 09:07 PM
Not particularly, but the only reason he’s so hated on here is cause people think it’s fun that they can insult a member and get away with it, sad really

Ant.
07-11-2018, 09:09 PM
which one is ralph again?

Elliot
07-11-2018, 09:18 PM
Not particularly, but the only reason he’s so hated on here is cause people think it’s fun that they can insult a member and get away with it, sad really

Tbh I didn’t know he was a forum member of anything when I was watching this series and when the whole anti issy thing on social media started and my feelings haven’t changed knowing so. I was just as annoyed after he had beat out Kieran, hannah, tom and ****ing especially Deborah considering he was a coaster and even more annoyed he had the nerve, after this undeserved result, to say he didn’t snag the win because he was a ‘POC’ and on top of this used it to ploy some issy hate thing on twitter to suck up to Chanelle ddd a mess

Vanessa
07-11-2018, 09:20 PM
He was my favourite that year. Right from the start i thought he was lovely and he just got better and better. I remember how excited i was when he got to the final two
I cried. But runner up is still an amazing result.

Matthew.
07-11-2018, 09:22 PM
I didn’t like him at the start but I liked him more as the series went on

Matthew.
07-11-2018, 09:40 PM
but then again i wasn’t a member of the forum until mid-BB18 so I didn’t have any idea who he was unlike some others on here

rusticgal
07-11-2018, 09:47 PM
I thought he was a coward trying to play it clever. He stirred the pot with his mates and let them take the flak because he didn't have the guts to risk his popularity.
Raph being a forum member didn't sway my opinions...I judged him as a housemate as we all should have done.

Eddie.
07-11-2018, 10:59 PM
He was boring BUT he came across well and was lovely...

Though now you can tell he is SOO desperate with getting into North American BB, that it makes me cringe...

Daniel-X
07-11-2018, 11:06 PM
A terrible housemate. Him and Chanelle are amongst two of the worst of all time. Fake to the core.

Ant.
07-11-2018, 11:08 PM
I mean, in all seriousness, I didn't think he was that bad?

But that said, looking back, I can't think of a time I enjoyed him without him being in the presence of Chanelle. I dont doubt he was a standalone housemate and would've had good individual moments but none come to mind and sadly I just think of him as Chanelle's sidekick... so I probably don't mind him because I liked him by association

Macie Lightfoot
08-11-2018, 04:15 PM
I scream when he said on here he knew he wouldn't win as a POC

Sis is white.

Right? Like yes, the only reason you lost is because you're a POC, not because Isabelle outplayed and outclassed you in every single way :rolleyes:

My favorite part of his AMA-type thread where he only answered praise and ignored the actual questions was when he elaborately explained his "intricate gameplay" and it was like... he hung out in the smoking area so he could befriend the smokers and he used slang to get in with the bros or something. So basically anything you could learn in a PSY101 class rather than anything meaningful :joker:

Scoot
09-11-2018, 04:07 AM
He wasn’t THAT bad but he robbed us of a Deborah/Issy final 2 </3

Like others have said he was pretty inoffensive and he helped facilitate better storylines.
Sometimes it did come off though like he was trying to manufacture certain things to happen and it was a bit cringe.

James
09-11-2018, 05:21 AM
but the only reason he’s so hated on here is cause people think it’s fun that they can insult a member and get away with it, sad really

Pretty much agree. I don't remember him being controversial in the house. It just seems to be social media stuff people bring up.

I'm wondering if some members who knew him were put off posting here, actually, which would be a shame if true.

JerseyWins
22-11-2018, 04:43 PM
This is like asking if the sky is still blue

Elliot
22-11-2018, 04:44 PM
This is like asking if the sky is still blue

no its black and raph is ****e

RileyH
22-11-2018, 04:46 PM
Why was this bumped :suspect:

He was **** we know!

Black Dagger
22-11-2018, 04:47 PM
This is like asking if the sky is still blue

Yeah well your taste is questionable so the sky is green. Bye.

Liam-
22-11-2018, 04:48 PM
no its black and raph is ****e

:joker:

MB.
22-11-2018, 04:48 PM
no its black and raph is ****e

Ah, so that's why Raph, Deborah and the sky lost to Isabelle

Marsh.
22-11-2018, 04:49 PM
I'm wondering if some members who knew him were put off posting here, actually, which would be a shame if true.

Well most of them came around to what he was in the end when he blanked them all.

As if homophobic abuse to Lucas wasn't enough. :idc:

Black Dagger
22-11-2018, 04:50 PM
I was emotionally abused and the daily star didn't want to know.

Ant.
22-11-2018, 04:54 PM
Ah, so that's why Raph, Deborah and the sky lost to Isabelle

Well most of them came around to what he was in the end when he blanked them all.



:joker:

James
22-11-2018, 05:24 PM
Kinda ridiculous people thinking they know what has happened between housemates after the show, based on a few tweets.