LGBTQA+1234 forum

[Marsh.]

well I used the chat thread loosely, as in you are using SD loosely, I don't find SD hostile, I haven't seen any member make a leaving thread after venturing in there so there is obviously hostility in other areas of the forum that are not being flagged up because its just so easy to drag SD, honestly at this stage I think I am going to petition for it's closure, its members get abused regularly even in the lovey dovey ML write up threadsWell then feel free to complain about that part of the forum but the fact that you don't even know which section of the forum your ire should be directed at speaks volumes tbh.

You assuming it's the chat thread holds no water.

I'm discussing MY experiences posting in SD and why I believe it had the atmosphere and reputation it has. You seem to be trying to shift focus to the chat thread specifically but not through any experience but through assumptions you're making on leaving threads.

The only one I recall recently was BBUK-FAN and I rarely see him in private chat. He tends to be in the BB/TV show sections from what I've seen.

[Nicky91]

:rolleyes:

[Cherie]

Well then feel free to complain about that part of the forum but the fact that you don't even know which section of the forum your ire should be directed at speaks volumes tbh.

You assuming it's the chat thread holds no water.

I'm discussing MY experiences posting in SD and why I believe it had the atmosphere and reputation it has. You seem to be trying to shift focus to the chat thread specifically but not through any experience but through assumptions you're making on leaving threads.

The only one I recall recently was BBUK-FAN and I rarely see him in private chat. He tends to be in the BB/TV show sections from what I've seen.

Jordi also made a thread ...I don’t know why you are trying to paint the chat thread as whiter than white when you know its not, but okay SD are devils, chat thread is full of angels ..I get it

[Nicky91]

Jordi also made a thread ...I don’t know why you are trying to paint the chat thread as whiter than white when you know its not, but okay SD are devils, chat thread is full of angels ..I get it

i tried giving SD a chance tbh, i know i'm definitely not perfect on there


i prefer any other subforum and the chat thread tbh



i just gave SD a chance because i wanted to at least try to show my more serious side

[Marsh.]

Jordi also made a thread ...I don’t know why you are trying to paint the chat thread as whiter than white when you know its not, but okay SD are devils, chat thread is full of angels ..I get itWho said that?

You brought the chat thread into the discussion and then backtracked saying you don't actually know you're making assumptions based on thinking if someone doesn't post in SD they just post in the chat thread.

I'm not claiming it's whiter than white I'm just not discussing an issue you've plucked out of thin air.

If you have something relevant to what we're discussing and the chat thread being unwelcoming then fair enough we will discuss it. But all you've offered is that you don't go into the thread often and you presume things about forum members who aren't SD regulars. :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

i tried giving SD a chance tbh, i know i'm definitely not perfect on there


i prefer any other subforum and the chat thread tbh



i just gave SD a chance because i wanted to at least try to show my more serious side

great post Nicky

good attitude and not attacking anyone


:clap1:

[Ashley.]

Name and shame the dastardly cads

God complex springs to mind.

[Cherie]

Who said that?

You brought the chat thread into the discussion and then backtracked saying you don't actually know you're making assumptions based on thinking if someone doesn't post in SD they just post in the chat thread.

I'm not claiming it's whiter than white I'm just not discussing an issue you've plucked out of thin air.

If you have something relevant to what we're discussing and the chat thread being unwelcoming then fair enough we will discuss it. But all you've offered is that you don't go into the thread often and you presume things about forum members who aren't SD regulars. :shrug:


so the chat thread can't be mentioned but SD can be dragged every which way, I didn't know this!

[Cherie]

i tried giving SD a chance tbh, i know i'm definitely not perfect on there


i prefer any other subforum and the chat thread tbh



i just gave SD a chance because i wanted to at least try to show my more serious side

No body is perfect Nicky, not even me :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

God complex springs to mind.

and insulting members is what complex?


:bored:

[Maru]

Literally everytime something happens on the forum SD is mocked and brought into it, for no apparent reason, I don't think Maru meant it but she did this thread a disservice by mentioning SD in the poll and yes it was probably in fun, but it immediately created a divisive nature to the thread, honestly its getting so draining every time...the knitting club which was originally used by a member as a derogatory reference to anyone over 30 and was taken up by those members over 30 as a bit of a laugh is now being used as a stick to batter people which, as if there is a knitting club, as if LT has a gang ..... :bored:

I get that. I didn't take this request so seriously. I understand what you're saying, Cherie, but just to respond because you touch on valid points, though I see things a little differently.

This community takes itself way too seriously overall. So it's no wonder people are so easily trolled, because there's always a nerve within reach. I have been away more often as of late, for a variety of reasons. It seems like when I return, there has been some new drama unfolding... usually forum politics and some infighting or new controversy. This is very unattractive for the site's more casual membership imo.

I figured the LGBT suggestion, at best if it were even to be implemented in an enlightened way might provide some additional steam to the site. Not for eternity if BB were to be cancelled, but provide more reasons to interactive during off-season. Maybe even release some tension and give current users extra incentives for them to post beyond the debate variety. As it is, activity is dropping. I'm personally finding less and less reasons to keep coming here myself, as the energy here has become very incestuous and uninviting. A lot of discussions have become cyclical, even to the point of being over-contrived at points and many of those "discoveries" that can be derived from these conversations are often tedious to get to...

I don't think the blame necessarily sits at the foot of the community or even admin, per say. Sure, some negative interactions and mantras that prevail in TiBB have added essential fuel to those fires and so we see those upsets over and over again. However, I think it's because those individuals impacts are so easily felt now with the reduced activity and the frequency in which certain oil&water individuals are finding themselves interacting has also increased, therefore leading to more clashing of egos and infighting. So there's really no break from that with that in the fore for the more casual users and it adds up to being a more acidic environment overall. There are still folk who are energized enough to occupy that space, but I think that that energy alone is not enough to maintain that space...

I think that SD is where most of these conversations "boil over", but it's not necessarily the sub itself that is at fault. It's become the butt ugly duckling of the forum, easy to pick on, but I don't take that to mean it's a bad sub as it has a ton of character... but it's probably more that there's nothing to equalize the pressures there or even to bring older (or established) members out of their shell into other sections. I don't think anyone wants the forum to feel segregated, but that is what it feels like currently atm...

Obviously, politics has effected most of everyday life in a big way, and coupled with these oil&water reactions, the temperament of the forum is goign to be tedious and hostile at times. Intellectually I may realize this is not necessarily the intention of most people who post on here or even those who respond negatively to most opposition.. but emotionally, it becomes draining to post in sections that center around these types of oil&water interactions and it leads to me disengaging anyway because I can't see the worth of engaging in those discussions when I know it will only add further to my aggravation.

A relationship/LGBT/culture-type section I figured would allow posts that don't fit into the category a little more time to marinate and the forum added depth. Especially in areas where cold hard facts are not necessarily "King", i.e. areas surrounding emotional intelligence, self-perception and cultural differences. We are missing that side of the forum in SD by watering down these life discussions (mainly our differences) to just "debates". Jamie, for example, an excellent member in this regard. He shines in on-season when these discussions emerge, but during off-season, there's only so much of that kind of discussion that SD is meant to and capable of facilitating... and again, it's not because it's a bad sub. It's because that sub is non-habitable place for those kinds of emotional topics imo. Just too serious for anything meaningful to marinate when facts versus opinion types rule in that sub. Which is fine, as SD serves the purpose for working out our hardlines on things... but that's not what this other section should be for.

Anyway, I've stopped visiting as much as of late and I think it may be because I'm losing steam. I'm never looking forward to opening the site in the mornings after having left my thoughts on the table, especially on terse topics, since by then it's past the TiBB morning rush and is usually when the more awkward responses appear in threads, i.e. the sniping etc. So I don't know what the "spirit" of that discussion will be when I check in the morning. So I've noticed more and more mornings I am just bypassing that ritual entirely and I have been further seperating myself from this place. To sum up my feelings in the best way possible, there always seems to be someone nitpicking over something, unhappy or otherwise causing some sort of drama. The other parts of the site are too low-brow (I'm looking at you GenChat) or far too idle to be worth the effort. With BB leanings more towards falling onto the backburner, there's the loss of the on-season ritual... probably at this point, it's the people whose posts I enjoy most reading and friendships I have here that keep me returning... but even those folk are going more idle. Maybe that's how it is, the way things things should go down and are ultimately meant to be... but I did feel I saw an opportunity for community growth and a way to increase engagement, so I made the suggestion. It doesn't have to be taken up... I wouldn't even blame the admin if they close this thread if they want to end a "divisive" conversation... but I do think it's a tepid peace in the long-run.

Anyway, Cherie, thank you for your thoughts. This was not meant to be a rebuttal or anything, but your post led to a braindump... I have my views, like all the other members, but mine is not the only one. Life continues on...

[Maru]

i tried giving SD a chance tbh, i know i'm definitely not perfect on there


i prefer any other subforum and the chat thread tbh



i just gave SD a chance because i wanted to at least try to show my more serious side

The irony, Nicky, is to survive SD, you must learn to not take things so seriously.. :laugh: ... is my thought. None of us all-seeing, so we can only go with what we have seen, heard and experienced... a lot of things contribute to how we think and feel, and as long as you are able to 'articulate' that well (in your own eyes), then you would fit in fine as an SD poster in my view. We all struggle with our sources of disillusionment...

[chuff me dizzy]

Right my opinion .......... Ive been here many years ,and like lots of others I joined this forum to talk about what it is for BIG BROTHER .. Over the last couple of years several people have tried to turn a TV SHOW site into a filth site, and the number of original decent members has plummeted ,if this site is allowed to sink deeper into filth talk the remaining old members will also leave ,thats for sure.
Im sure there are plenty of smut sites available for people to talk in a way that is abhorrent to countless others, Im sure Google would dig some up ,So my opinion is keep TIBB ( THIS IS BIG BROTHER )to what it was set up for and let the filth talk go elsewhere

[smudgie]

It wouldn’t matter to me in the bigger picture, but I have to say, I have learned a lot about life since joining TIBB.
SD can look more hostile than it really is, but a lot of it is just banter.
I really struggled when I saw the banter in other threads as I never knew if it was banter or true.
We all have the choice to make a thread on any given subject, so maybe just make more threads rather than needing new sub forums:shrug:

[Marsh.]

so the chat thread can't be mentioned but SD can be dragged every which way, I didn't know this!I didn't say that Cherie. Instead of picking out little bits read what I said in context.

You brought the chat thread into the discussion therefore it is down to you to explain how the chat thread fits into what's being discussed.

As it happened, you couldn't because your made baseless assumptions about "people who leave the forum but don't post in SD must somehow come from the chat thread and the chat thread hasn't made them welcome".

Nothing to do with the chat thread being whiter than white but you bringing the chat thread into this discussion based on nothing.

Like I said, any experience or example of the chat thread being in anyway like my experience of SD and I'm all ears.

You can't just say "But the chat thread is the same because people make leaving threads and they haven't been in SD therefore they come from the chat thread". Do you see?

[Cherie]

I get that. I didn't take this request so seriously. I understand what you're saying, Cherie, but just to respond because you touch on valid points, though I see things a little differently.

This community takes itself way too seriously overall. So it's no wonder people are so easily trolled, because there's always a nerve within reach. I have been away more often as of late, for a variety of reasons. It seems like when I return, there has been some new drama unfolding... usually forum politics and some infighting or new controversy. This is very unattractive for the site's more casual membership imo.

I figured the LGBT suggestion, at best if it were even to be implemented in an enlightened way might provide some additional steam to the site. Not for eternity if BB were to be cancelled, but provide more reasons to interactive during off-season. Maybe even release some tension and give current users extra incentives for them to post beyond the debate variety. As it is, activity is dropping. I'm personally finding less and less reasons to keep coming here myself, as the energy here has become very incestuous and uninviting. A lot of discussions have become cyclical, even to the point of being over-contrived at points and many of those "discoveries" that can be derived from these conversations are often tedious to get to...

I don't think the blame necessarily sits at the foot of the community or even admin, per say. Sure, some negative interactions and mantras that prevail in TiBB have added essential fuel to those fires and so we see those upsets over and over again. However, I think it's because those individuals impacts are so easily felt now with the reduced activity and the frequency in which certain oil&water individuals are finding themselves interacting has also increased, therefore leading to more clashing of egos and infighting. So there's really no break from that with that in the fore for the more casual users and it adds up to being a more acidic environment overall. There are still folk who are energized enough to occupy that space, but I think that that energy alone is not enough to maintain that space...

I think that SD is where most of these conversations "boil over", but it's not necessarily the sub itself that is at fault. It's become the butt ugly duckling of the forum, easy to pick on, but I don't take that to mean it's a bad sub as it has a ton of character... but it's probably more that there's nothing to equalize the pressures there or even to bring older (or established) members out of their shell into other sections. I don't think anyone wants the forum to feel segregated, but that is what it feels like currently atm...

Obviously, politics has effected most of everyday life in a big way, and coupled with these oil&water reactions, the temperament of the forum is goign to be tedious and hostile at times. Intellectually I may realize this is not necessarily the intention of most people who post on here or even those who respond negatively to most opposition.. but emotionally, it becomes draining to post in sections that center around these types of oil&water interactions and it leads to me disengaging anyway because I can't see the worth of engaging in those discussions when I know it will only add further to my aggravation.

A relationship/LGBT/culture-type section I figured would allow posts that don't fit into the category a little more time to marinate and the forum added depth. Especially in areas where cold hard facts are not necessarily "King", i.e. areas surrounding emotional intelligence, self-perception and cultural differences. We are missing that side of the forum in SD by watering down these life discussions (mainly our differences) to just "debates". Jamie, for example, an excellent member in this regard. He shines in on-season when these discussions emerge, but during off-season, there's only so much of that kind of discussion that SD is meant to and capable of facilitating... and again, it's not because it's a bad sub. It's because that sub is non-habitable place for those kinds of emotional topics imo. Just too serious for anything meaningful to marinate when facts versus opinion types rule in that sub. Which is fine, as SD serves the purpose for working out our hardlines on things... but that's not what this other section should be for.

Anyway, I've stopped visiting as much as of late and I think it may be because I'm losing steam. I'm never looking forward to opening the site in the mornings after having left my thoughts on the table, especially on terse topics, since by then it's past the TiBB morning rush and is usually when the more awkward responses appear in threads, i.e. the sniping etc. So I don't know what the "spirit" of that discussion will be when I check in the morning. So I've noticed more and more mornings I am just bypassing that ritual entirely and I have been further seperating myself from this place. To sum up my feelings in the best way possible, there always seems to be someone nitpicking over something, unhappy or otherwise causing some sort of drama. The other parts of the site are too low-brow (I'm looking at you GenChat) or far too idle to be worth the effort. With BB leanings more towards falling onto the backburner, there's the loss of the on-season ritual... probably at this point, it's the people whose posts I enjoy most reading and friendships I have here that keep me returning... but even those folk are going more idle. Maybe that's how it is, the way things things should go down and are ultimately meant to be... but I did feel I saw an opportunity for community growth and a way to increase engagement, so I made the suggestion. It doesn't have to be taken up... I wouldn't even blame the admin if they close this thread if they want to end a "divisive" conversation... but I do think it's a tepid peace in the long-run.

Anyway, Cherie, thank you for your thoughts. This was not meant to be a rebuttal or anything, but your post led to a braindump... I have my views, like all the other members, but mine is not the only one. Life continues on...

Thanks Maru, you talk alot of sense and i agree we do take ourselves far too seriously!

[Amy Jade]

I think talking about sex and relationships is perfectly normal on the forum.

After all there has been sex on the very show we all joined to talk about.

[Cherie]

I didn't say that Cherie. Instead of picking out little bits read what I said in context.

You brought the chat thread into the discussion therefore it is down to you to explain how the chat thread fits into what's being discussed.

As it happened, you couldn't because your made baseless assumptions about "people who leave the forum but don't post in SD must somehow come from the chat thread and the chat thread hasn't made them welcome".

Nothing to do with the chat thread being whiter than white but you bringing the chat thread into this discussion based on nothing.

Like I said, any experience or example of the chat thread being in anyway like my experience of SD and I'm all ears.

You can't just say "But the chat thread is the same because people make leaving threads and they haven't been in SD therefore they come from the chat thread". Do you see?

So your experience of SD okay lets go with that then, who makes you feel uncomfortable because there is only a handful of posters on there now, and its getting less and less all the time but i guess that is welcome yes?

Me
Arista
Oliver W
LT
Vicky
Niamh
Dezzy
Alf
Parminon
BOTS
Kizzy
Maru
Brillo
Kirk
TS
Kazanne
Withano

semi regs

Smudgie
Northern Monkey
Nicky
Livia
MTVN
Adam
Sticks
Annie
2TS
Amy Jade
Chuff
Josy
Hijaxers
M21
Goldheart
Jonni
Marsh
Mock
Jack
Riley
Jaxie
Lime

if I have missed someone out I apologise, who has exhibited such hostility that you can't bring yourself to post ...I'm thinking Smudgie amirite?

[AnnieK]

Always forgotten me.:sad:
That's it, I'm leaving
You SD lot are mean :fist:

[Kazanne]

Always forgotten me.:sad:
That's it, I'm leaving
You SD lot are mean :fist:

:joker:you're going nowhere Annie:wavey:

[Cherie]

Always forgotten me.:sad:
That's it, I'm leaving
You SD lot are mean :fist:

I forgot a few :hehe: there are more KC members then you would think :laugh:

[Cherie]

Look at that list of pussycats though

[Marsh.]

So your experience of SD okay lets go with that then, who makes you feel uncomfortable because there is only a handful of posters on there now, and its getting less and less all the time but i guess that is welcome yes?

Me
Arista
Oliver W
LT
Vicky
Niamh
Dezzy
Alf
Parminon
BOTS
Kizzy
Maru
Brillo
Kirk
TS
Kazanne

semi regs

Smudgie
Northern Monkey
Nicky
Livia
MTVN
Adam
Sticks
Annie


if I have missed someone out I apologise, who has exhibited such hostility that you can't bring yourself to post ...I'm thinking Smudgie amirite?

I haven't said any of that Cherie.
I didn't say anyone makes me feel uncomfortable, you're moving the goalposts.

We were discussing hostility in response to people partaking in discussions. I don't take any of it personally but I won't waste time in a discussion when I get nothing but pathetic off topic replies in response to it.

It basically becomes a "I don't normally agree or get along with that poster so they'll get a sh*try reply but I like this poster so they can have some unconstructive clapping smileys".

You are the one who took it upon yourself to get defensive over comments about people's experiences in certain sections but apparently your non existent experience in the chat thread is a valid response?

No Cherie. And I won't be baited into naming forum members and being accused of "insults to other members". :hee:

If all this boils down to you taking it personally because you feel I was referring to you, perhaps? Then rest easy, I wasn't.

[Cherie]

I keep having to edit the post, SD is thriving :dance:

[Cherie]

I haven't said any of that Cherie.
I didn't say anyone makes me feel uncomfortable, you're moving the goalposts.

We were discussing hostility in response to people partaking in discussions. I don't take any of it personally but I won't waste time in a discussion when I get nothing but pathetic off topic replies in response to it.

It basically becomes a "I don't normally agree or get along with that poster so they'll get a sh*try reply but I like this poster so they can have some unconstructive clapping smileys".

You are the one who took it upon yourself to get defensive over comments about people's experiences in certain sections but apparently your non existent experience in the chat thread is a valid response?

No Cherie. And I won't be baited into naming forum members and being accused of "insults to other members". :hee:

If all this boils down to you taking it personally because you feel I was referring to you, perhaps? Then rest easy, I wasn't.


Has LT upset you, I will report him to Josy

[Marsh.]

Has LT upset you, I will report him to JosyWhat a good joke.

Picking out the least of SD's problems.

Good one. :thumbs:

[Maru]

semi regs

Smudgie
Northern Monkey
Nicky
Livia
MTVN
Adam
Sticks
Annie
2TS
Amy Jade
Chuff
Josy
Hijaxers
M21
Goldheart
Jonni
Marsh


I'm absolutely triggered by the people in this list. Just triggered. I consider a good amount of them to be "regulars" in my eyes as they have paved the way into my little SD illustration that is sits inside my skull. That's about as regular as it gets for me. I demand compensation.......... by creating a new sub, Seriously Regular...

https://media.giphy.com/media/FAhrKD3snY7Dy/giphy.gif

[Cherie]

What a good joke.

Picking out the least of SD's problems.

Good one. :thumbs:

Your problem with SD appears to be people agreeing with others and using clapping smiles :laugh:

If thats the extent if it, it hardly constitutes a ‘problem’ in my eyes

[Cherie]

I'm absolutely triggered by the people in this list. Just triggered. I consider a good amount of them to be "regulars" in my eyes as they have paved the way into my little SD illustration that is sits inside my skull. That's about as regular as it gets for me. I demand compensation.......... by creating a new sub, Seriously Regular...

https://media.giphy.com/media/FAhrKD3snY7Dy/giphy.gif

When I started the list I didn’t think it would be as big as is, I will compensate you Maru with a regular from SD :clap1:

[Twosugars]

Imo, neither SD nor Chat are that bad. They are actually quite good all things considered.
The forum as a whole is pretty good. BB may be going wrong but the forum can evolve and stay. But only if members and staff want it to. So let's remember the positives like friends, humour and debate it gives and help it keep going.

[Withano]

SD isn’t half as bad as it once used to be.

Not so long ago, there was only two talking points (Corbyn or Brexit) and the majority of those threads would all be made by a single member

But that stopped, and was replaced by people just coming in, ignoring the thread entirely and just talking about themselves and the moderators

But that simmered down, now, the most frustrating issue is that there are countless posts that are just cheerleading really. Several members wouldnt go in to discuss the thread. Theyre going in to dance and clap with emojis to their mates as if a debate is friend-thing. It used to be a lot worse than what it is now, some individuals have stopped cheerleading entirely, but others havent stopped their silliness.

Its still the least popular subforum on the website, but it is better than it used to be.

[Cherie]

SD isn’t half as bad as it once used to be.

Not so long ago, there was only two talking points (Corbyn or Brexit) and the majority of those threads would all be made by a single member

But that stopped, and was replaced by people just coming in, ignoring the thread entirely and just talking about themselves and the moderators

But that simmered down, now, the most frustrating issue is that there are countless posts that are just cheerleading really. Several members wouldnt go in to discuss the thread. Theyre going in to dance and clap with emojis to their mates as if a debate is friend-thing. It used to be a lot worse than what it is now

Its still the least popular subforum on the website, but it is better than it used to be.


I think the numbers speak for themselves and the fact that James attached Celebrity to it as it is the most active forum speaks volumes...

[Withano]

I think the numbers speak for themselves and the fact that James attached Celebrity to it as it is the most active forum speaks volumes...

Least populat as in most hated, I’m aware people use it.

[Cherie]

Imo, neither SD nor Chat are that bad. They are actually quite good all things considered.
The forum as a whole is pretty good. BB may be going wrong but the forum can evolve and stay. But only if members and staff want it to. So let's remember the positives like friends, humour and debate it gives and help it keep going.

It's all down to fake news and perception, the forum is fine, it's just people have got into a habit of blaming SD for all the forums woes and obviously people are happy to run with that as it absolves themselves of any responsibility of how they behave

[Cherie]

Least populat as in most hated, I’m aware people use it.

happy with that, Man U are most hated too but biggest club in the world, SD is a source of envy across the forum :tongue:

[Withano]

happy with that, Man U are most hated too but biggest club in the world, SD is a source of envy across the forum :tongue:

No it isn’t envy lol (why are you so defensive over it), I listed several of the problems that SD has, nobody is envious over those haha. There are a lot more issues raised by other people too (trashy/unwelcoming/hostile/etc), nobody is envious of those issues either.

[Crimson Dynamo]

No it isn’t envy lol (why are you so defensive over it), I listed several of the problems that SD has, nobody is envious over those haha. There are a lot more issues raised by other people too (trashy/unwelcoming/hostile/etc), nobody is envious of those issues either.

i am glad you feel that you can speak for the forum

when did you take up this role?

[chuff me dizzy]

i am glad you feel that you can speak for the forum

when did you take up this role?

:joker:

[Twosugars]

Tbh look at TV or parliament debates, no different from SD. People pull the same tricks. It's not SD it's human nature.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tbh look at TV or parliament debates, no different from SD. People pull the same tricks. It's not SD it's human nature.

Quite right TSII

[Withano]

i am glad you feel that you can speak for the forum

when did you take up this role?

In what way is me saying ‘it isn’t envy’ speaking for the forum more than Cherie saying ‘it is envy’

This is what I meant by cheerleading and clappy/joker/dancy emojis. Its a problem in SD. It isnt productive, its childish. That applies to you here too chuff. The same group (and it is a group) of people ruining it for the rest.

[Jake.]

:joker:

I mean, you’ve literally just proved his point

[Marsh.]

Your problem with SD appears to be people agreeing with others and using clapping smiles [emoji23]

If thats the extent if it, it hardly constitutes a ‘problem’ in my eyesYes... That's the extent of it... That's what I said... clearly. :rolleyes:

Why bother asking questions when you completely ignore the answer?

You find SD lovely, that's brilliant for you. But that has no bearing on other people.

[Crimson Dynamo]

In what way is me saying ‘it isn’t envy’ speaking for the forum more than Cherie saying ‘it is envy’

This is what I meant by cheerleading and clappy/joker/dancy emojis. Its a problem in SD. It isnt productive, its childish. That applies to you here too chuff. The same group (and it is a group) of people ruining it for the rest.

So you are upset people dont laugh and clap your posts

is that the issue that is vexing you?

[Withano]

So you are upset people dont laugh and clap your posts

is that the issue that is vexing you?

I wouldn’t need them to, we’re adults having a conversation.. is that why you all do it so often? To feed each others egos?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wouldn’t need them to, we’re adults having a conversation.. is that why you all do it so often? To feed each others egos?

and there you go with personal insults when things dont go your way..


plus ca change rodney

plus ca change

[Withano]

and there you go with personal insults when things dont go your way..


plus ca change rodney

plus ca change

I was asking a question, there was no insult there, LT.

[Kazanne]

I wouldn’t need them to, we’re adults having a conversation.. is that why you all do it so often? To feed each others egos?

We are supposed to be adults,and in the real world friends have each others backs if they agree with them they will say so,it's no different on here,maybe the problem is some of us are 'friends' and like each other.Now I suppose it will be a 'gang' just because I joined in the convo,lol,it's a forum it's what people do,I happen to think some of the smilies are funny when used right and can also say to the other person that one is joking. as for feeding peoples ego,you only have to enter ML for that.:smug:

[Twosugars]

...ehm, ehm...what about lbgt subforum? maybe Maru's right and we need something different from the usual, and go love/relationships/psychology route? Hopefully there'd be less bickering there?

[Withano]

We are supposed to be adults,and in the real world friends have each others backs if they agree with them they will say so,it's no different on here,maybe the problem is some of us are 'friends' and like each other.Now I suppose it will be a 'gang' just because I joined in the convo,lol,it's a forum it's what people do,I happen to think some of the smilies are funny when used right and can also say to the other person that one is joking. as for feeding peoples ego,you only have to enter ML for that.:smug:

Well of course you don’t see cheerleading as a problem with SD Kaz lol. It’s three quarters of the posts that you make there. It is seen as a problem though because it’s childish and causes hostility.

Using this most recent example
Cherie: people are envious
Withano: people are not envious
LT: when did you speak for everyone withano
Chuff: excellent joke LT

Its kinda hard to give your post any weight, if the squad cant see how utterly ridiculous you regularly portray yourself with an example that transparent, then its beyond the help you can receive from me.

In summary, SD is incredibly unpopular, and the reasons why is very clearly detailed in this thread on purpose, and on accident. Read through it if you want.

[Marsh.]

It's all down to fake news and perception, the forum is fine, it's just people have got into a habit of blaming SD for all the forums woes and obviously people are happy to run with that as it absolves themselves of any responsibility of how they behaveNo. SD is to blame for problems in SD. The chat thread is to blame for problems in the chat thread etc etc.

Stop altering what people are saying because you've taken criticism of SD so personally that you simply must defend it.

You were allowed your opinions about the modding being a problem, other people are entitled to theirs.

[Kazanne]

Well of course you don’t see cheerleading as a problem with SD Kaz lol. It’s three quarters of the posts that you make there. It is seen as a problem though because it’s childish and causes hostility.

Using this most recent example
Cherie: people are envious
Withano: people are not envious
LT: when did you speak for everyone withano
Chuff: excellent joke LT

Its kinda hard to give your post any weight, if the squad cant see how utterly ridiculous you regularly portray yourself with an example that transparent, then its beyond the help you can receive from me.

In summary, SD is incredibly unpopular, and the reasons why is very clearly detailed in this thread on purpose, and on accident. Read through it if you want.

Whilst we are on personal insults on how we should be posting,maybe you should know how utterly hostile and unfriendly you come over, I don't want you to give my post any weight,and I don't need your permission to do so,you can carry on with your 'squad' talk, it's quite obviously said to stop us all posting on the same topic,well it wont work,maybe you should just lighten up,have a laugh and let people do the same, :cheer::cheer:

[Nicky91]

true Marsh, whatever happens in SD, stays in SD

or whatever happens in chat thread, stays in chat thread

[Withano]

Whilst we are on personal insults on how we should be posting,maybe you should know how utterly hostile and unfriendly you come over, I don't want you to give my post any weight,and I don't need your permission to do so,you can carry on with your 'squad' talk, it's quite obviously said to stop us all posting on the same topic,well it wont work,maybe you should just lighten up,have a laugh and let people do the same, :cheer::cheer:

You're the one implying people who take part in ML are ego-driven... and now this.. there is a gang of cheerleaders, they do come across as childish, their cheers do cause hostility, and it is a problem with SD.

I don’t know how I can be clearer.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You're the one implying people who take part in ML are ego-driven... and now this.. there is a gang of cheerleaders, they do come across as childish, their cheers do cause hostility, and it is a problem with SD.

I don’t know how I can be clearer.

I still think you are just asking for your posts to get more love. Kaz have you good advice there tbh. Be nicer and not so hostile

:shrug:

[Withano]

I still think you are just asking for your posts to get more love. Kaz have you good advice there tbh. Be nicer and not so hostile

:shrug:

Tragic

[Cherie]

No. SD is to blame for problems in SD. The chat thread is to blame for problems in the chat thread etc etc.

Stop altering what people are saying because you've taken criticism of SD so personally that you simply must defend it.

You were allowed your opinions about the modding being a problem, other people are entitled to theirs.

I'm not defensive at all, I can categorically say that I have never told anyone to go back to chat and games, and that goes for 99 per cent of SD posters as well, and if you were told that it was probably in jest

I can respond just the same as you can, no need to keep calling me defensive trying to get a rise

[Cherie]

Whilst we are on personal insults on how we should be posting,maybe you should know how utterly hostile and unfriendly you come over, I don't want you to give my post any weight,and I don't need your permission to do so,you can carry on with your 'squad' talk, it's quite obviously said to stop us all posting on the same topic,well it wont work,maybe you should just lighten up,have a laugh and let people do the same, :cheer::cheer:

glass houses etc

[Marsh.]

I'm not defensive at all, I can categorically say that I have never told anyone to go back to chat and games, and that goes for 99 per cent of SD posters as well, and if you were told that it was probably in jest

I can respond just the same as you can, no need to keep calling me defensive trying to get a rise

You are defensive. Incredibly defensive.

I haven't said you can't respond?

Trying to get a rise? No. I And many others are making their thoughts known. You didn't mind when the modding was the topic of such honesty.

You can speak on behalf of 99 per cent of SD posters? You've read and taken part in every SD discussion and seen every single post made by every single poster to come to this amazing conclusion? Everyone else is wrong because Cherie herself doesn't see a problem?

Again, it doesn't work like that.

In all the back and forth we've had you've yet to actually respond with anything concrete to what I originally posted about SD that you disagreed with so probably best to leave it there.

[Cherie]

You are defensive. Incredibly defensive.

I haven't said you can't respond?

Trying to get a rise? No. I And many others are making their thoughts known. You didn't mind when the modding was the topic of such honesty.

You can speak on behalf of 99 per cent of SD posters? You've read and taken part in every SD discussion and seen every single post made by every single poster to come to this amazing conclusion? Everyone else is wrong because Cherie herself doesn't see a problem?

Again, it doesn't work like that.

In all the back and forth we've had you've yet to actually respond with anything concrete to what I originally posted about SD that you disagreed with so probably best to leave it there.

You are trying to get a rise by continually saying I am defensive, I read most of the SD threads as it is the only forum I use in off season so yes I think I have an idea of what happen in there, probably more than you do in fact

[Cherie]

...ehm, ehm...what about lbgt subforum? maybe Maru's right and we need something different from the usual, and go love/relationships/psychology route? Hopefully there'd be less bickering there?

Dragging this back on topic, Nicky has asked me to stop arguing so I will

[Withano]

You are trying to get a rise by continually saying I am defensive, I read most of the SD threads as it is the only forum I use in off season so yes I think I have an idea of what happen in there, probably more than you do in fact

Many people from the same gang are having trouble seeing and understanding the issues...


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:think:

[Cherie]

...ehm, ehm...what about lbgt subforum? maybe Maru's right and we need something different from the usual, and go love/relationships/psychology route? Hopefully there'd be less bickering there?

.

[Marsh.]

You are trying to get a rise by continually saying I am defensive, I read most of the SD threads as it is the only forum I use in off season so yes I think I have an idea of what happen in there, probably more than you do in factExcept I'm giving my experience of SD.

I'm not speaking for other people unlike you.

Defend your mates all you want it doesn't change facts.

And yes I will say you're defensive. What other word is there for you jumping to SD's defence when something is said about it?

[Cherie]

...ehm, ehm...what about lbgt subforum? maybe Maru's right and we need something different from the usual, and go love/relationships/psychology route? Hopefully there'd be less bickering there?

.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Except I'm giving my experience of SD.

I'm not speaking for other people unlike you.

Defend your mates all you want it doesn't change facts.

And yes I will say you're defensive. What other word is there for you jumping to SD's defence when something is said about it?

you have not made a thread in SD since 2016

[Twosugars]

Using my 1000th post (go ts2, go ts2) to say again (thanks Cherie) that maybe another serious subforum where we could have more relaxed approach could take the heat off SD etc? Like Maru suggested. It doesn't have to be purely lgbt anymore, let's have relationships, psychology, lifestyle stuff in too... I don't ****ing know anymore, just something that could be accepted by a majority. And in the long run it could give a chance to a less confrontational style of discussing stuff?

[chuff me dizzy]

Well of course you don’t see cheerleading as a problem with SD Kaz lol. It’s three quarters of the posts that you make there. It is seen as a problem though because it’s childish and causes hostility.

Using this most recent example
Cherie: people are envious
Withano: people are not envious
LT: when did you speak for everyone withano
Chuff: excellent joke LT

Its kinda hard to give your post any weight, if the squad cant see how utterly ridiculous you regularly portray yourself with an example that transparent, then its beyond the help you can receive from me.

In summary, SD is incredibly unpopular, and the reasons why is very clearly detailed in this thread on purpose, and on accident. Read through it if you want.

You my dear are by far the most hostile member on here !! you admitted (Comment 6 ) that you only came on to see what you were missing ,no doubt to pick the bones of someones comment ,ANYONE who goes in ML does it for one reason............ to see if their little childish group backs them ,I and others don't need that pat on the back as we already have it in our homes

[Withano]

You my dear are by far the most hostile member on here !! you admitted (Comment 6 ) that you only came on to see what you were missing ,no doubt to pick the bones of someones comment ,ANYONE who goes in ML does it for one reason............ to see if their little childish group backs them ,I and others don't need that pat on the back as we already have it in our homes

glass houses etc

Many people from the same gang are having trouble seeing and understanding the issues...


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:think:

:cheer:?

[chuff me dizzy]

Main reason I entered the thread tbh

I rest my case :dance::joker::cheer2::nono::wavey::conf::shrug::s hocked::laugh::hehe::blush::bawling::fist::hee:

[Withano]

I rest my case :dance::joker::cheer2::nono::wavey::conf::shrug::s hocked::laugh::hehe::blush::bawling::fist::hee:

That was my response to ‘imagine the breakdowns from certain members’

Completely forgot about that :joker:

If anybody wants the future told, pm me.

Damn, should have guessed which exact members they were too, pretty sure i would have got it 100% accurate

[chuff me dizzy]

That was my response to ‘imagine the breakdowns from certain members’

Completely forgot about that :joker:

If anybody wants the future told, pm me.

Damn, should have guessed which exact members they were too, pretty sure i would have got it 100% accurate

Ditto ,and I was spot on right

[Twosugars]

You my dear are by far the most hostile member on here !! you admitted (Comment 6 ) that you only came on to see what you were missing ,no doubt to pick the bones of someones comment ,ANYONE who goes in ML does it for one reason............ to see if their little childish group backs them ,I and others don't need that pat on the back as we already have it in our homes

are you saying there that those who take part in Most Loved do it "to see if their little childish group backs them" ?

[chuff me dizzy]

are you saying there that those who take part in Most Loved do it "to see if their little childish group backs them" ?

Why would YOU go in it ? Its always baffled me to be honest, but then again Ive never felt insecure in my home life :shrug:

[Twosugars]

Why would YOU go in it ? Its always baffled me to be honest, but then again Ive never felt insecure in my home life :shrug:

My case is not the best example.
As a newbie I didn't want to withdraw bc didn't expect to qualify anyway and didn't want to make a fuss.
You are being very unfair drawing conclusions about people's home lives.
It's a harmless contest and it's nice to be liked and appreciated by others. It's not necessary but it's nice. People take it with humour regardless the result.
Sorry to say but it's you who seems insecure. If only you could show your softer side, without compromising your views of course, you could have better time here. As it is it's you who comes across unhappy. Glad to hear your home life is fine though.
I simply wouldn't make such sweeping and tenuous assumptions. It's simply not true.

[Amy Jade]

People take part in most loved because it is a cute and harmless way to show others you appreciate them on the forum.

I think it's one of, if not the nicest day of the year to be on TiBB.

[Amy Jade]

Twosugars I agree, where is the harm in an event where people say nice things about each other?

[chuff me dizzy]

My case is not the best example.
As a newbie I didn't want to withdraw bc didn't expect to qualify anyway and didn't want to make a fuss.
You are being very unfair drawing conclusions about people's home lives.
It's a harmless contest and it's nice to be liked and appreciated by others. It's not necessary but it's nice. People take it with humour regardless the result.
Sorry to say but it's you who seems insecure. If only you could show your softer side, without compromising your views of course, you could have better time here. As it is it's you who comes across unhappy. Glad to hear your home life is fine though.
I simply wouldn't make such sweeping and tenuous assumptions. It's simply not true.

Do they hellas like :joker:

[Nicky91]

People take part in most loved because it is a cute and harmless way to show others you appreciate them on the forum.

I think it's one of, if not the nicest day of the year to be on TiBB.

yes so true, i felt really loved this year at that contest :flutter:


even those who placed 50th, 49th, 48th got so much love from everyone

[Amy Jade]

Do they hellas like :joker:

They do. There was no drama at all during ML and pretty much everyone who took part said it was fun. You've said you have never taken part anyway so not sure why you have such a negative view of such a nice activity.

[Amy Jade]

yes so true, i felt really loved this year at that contest :flutter:


even those who placed 50th, 49th, 48th got so much love from everyone

You are loved Nicky :love:

[chuff me dizzy]

Can we get back on topic to do we want this place turning into a cesspit or not .... Thank you

[reece(:]

Mess at suggesting people take part in ML because they have no love or appreciation in their own homes

[Withano]

Mess at suggesting people take part in ML because they have no love or appreciation in their own homes

From someone not understanding the whole ‘hostility from a certain group in SD’ too.

...

:think:

[Amy Jade]

Can we get back on topic to do we want this place turning into a cesspit or not .... Thank you

Only responding to you taking it off topic by suggesting anyone who takes part in Most Loved musn't be happy at home.

[chuff me dizzy]

Only responding to you taking it off topic by suggesting anyone who takes part in Most Loved musn't be happy at home.

I was answering someone who had taken it off topic

[Twosugars]

Your extreme views that ML means unhappy home lives and LGBT subforum means filth and cesspit are beyond the pale.
It shows you up as one bitter and angry individual. I don't know who hurt you in your life or what makes you enjoy pouring such venom online, but I'm sorry for you.
Unless you're willing nobody can help you. I, for one, am forced to consider your activity here as trolling and not respond to it anymore. Sorry, Chuff, but you leave me no choice.

[Marsh.]

you have not made a thread in SD since 2016I never said I had?

What irrelevant point is this?

I can't join on discussions or debates until my thread making quota is reached?

[Marsh.]

You my dear are by far the most hostile member on here !! you admitted (Comment 6 ) that you only came on to see what you were missing ,no doubt to pick the bones of someones comment ,ANYONE who goes in ML does it for one reason............ to see if their little childish group backs them ,I and others don't need that pat on the back as we already have it in our homesWhat does ML have to do with SD?

My some people have a knack for making shi***y comparisons today.

[Marsh.]

Mess at suggesting people take part in ML because they have no love or appreciation in their own homesThen having the cheek to suggest we get back on topic after taking it off topic themselves AND not hint of irony that half their little pals took part in ML too. Would Chuff suggest Alf gets no love or appreciation at home.

The word sad doesn't even cover it.

[Marsh.]

Can we get back on topic to do we want this place turning into a cesspit or not .... Thank youLGBT doesn't equate to cesspit.

[Marsh.]

They do. There was no drama at all during ML and pretty much everyone who took part said it was fun. You've said you have never taken part anyway so not sure why you have such a negative view of such a nice activity.I think you just answered your own question.

It's a nice activity. :)

[chuff me dizzy]

Your extreme views that ML means unhappy home lives and LGBT subforum means filth and cesspit are beyond the pale.
It shows you up as one bitter and angry individual. I don't know who hurt you in your life or what makes you enjoy pouring such venom online, but I'm sorry for you.
Unless you're willing nobody can help you. I, for one, am forced to consider your activity here as trolling and not respond to it anymore. Sorry, Chuff, but you leave me no choice.

Jesus do you realise you've got me in floods of tears now? I look forward to our many sweet chats :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

LGBT doesn't equate to cesspit.

Filth talk does ,and allowing it to go on on a TV SHOW forum is the wrong place for it, as I said earlier Im sure there are plenty of sites with like minded people who get off on talking utter filth about, but this isn't the place "Google is your friend "

[reece(:]

Filth talk does ,and allowing it to go on on a TV SHOW forum is the wrong place for it, as I said earlier Im sure there are plenty of sites with like minded people who get off on talking utter filth about, but this isn't the place "Google is your friend "
Someone on Big Brother (which this forum is based upon) literally shoved a bottle in her vagina

[chuff me dizzy]

Someone on Big Brother (which this forum is based upon) literally shoved a bottle in her vagina

How silly do you look ?

[Amy Jade]

What filth talk are you particularly offended by?

I barely see sex talk on here but even if we did are we not all adults? Literally the only outright sexual topic I have seen recently was made by LeatherTrumpet talking about pegging.

[Marsh.]

Filth talk does ,and allowing it to go on on a TV SHOW forum is the wrong place for it, as I said earlier Im sure there are plenty of sites with like minded people who get off on talking utter filth about, but this isn't the place "Google is your friend "

I'm not sure what that's got to do with an LGBT subforum, nor what ML had to do with it.

You're homophobic and it only gets more obvious with each and every post you make.

[Amy Jade]

Most Loved being brought up was bizarre :laugh:

[bots]

The ML thing was a bit too cringey for my taste, but if others enjoy it ... that's up to them.

I have no problem sharing and contributing in a forum that includes people from all walks of life and with their own personal preferences whatever they may be. But, I didnt join an LGBT forum, I joined a big brother forum, and while other topics like other TV series etc may be relevant, LGBT stuff isn't relevant to me so I wouldn't vote for it under any circumstances

[Marsh.]

The ML thing was a bit too cringey for my taste, but if others enjoy it ... that's up to them.

I have no problem sharing and contributing in a forum that includes people from all walks of life and with their own personal preferences whatever they may be. But, I didnt join an LGBT forum, I joined a big brother forum, and while other topics like other TV series etc may be relevant, LGBT stuff isn't relevant to me so I wouldn't vote for it under any circumstances

There is no vote, what on earth is this? :joker:

It was literally a topic asking for LGBT related threads to get their own subforum. Just as we have different subforums for many different topics and shows. Basically, to keep the forum organised.

Don't worry, nobody's asking you to approve gay marriage or watch them have sex. :thumbs:

[bots]

There is no vote, what on earth is this? :joker:

It was literally a topic asking for LGBT related threads to get their own subforum. Just as we have different subforums for many different topics and shows. Basically, to keep the forum organised.

Don't worry, nobody's asking you to approve gay marriage or watch them have sex. :thumbs:

So the poll on this thread is not intended to see what support a new sub forum would have? .... Don't be so quick to be a smart arse you fail miserably every time

[Marsh.]

So the poll on this thread is not intended to see what support a new sub forum would have? .... Don't be so quick to be a smart arse you fail miserably every time

It's asking for opinions, whether or not a subforum materialises will not be put to a vote but is created at the admin's discretion.

Don't be so quick to post without thinking first.

[y.winter]

I can't believe this is still going and ML being dragged into it :facepalm:

[Marsh.]

I can't believe this is still going and ML being dragged into it :facepalm:

Honestly, the reaching will lead to lost limbs.

[chuff me dizzy]

The ML thing was a bit too cringey for my taste, but if others enjoy it ... that's up to them.

I have no problem sharing and contributing in a forum that includes people from all walks of life and with their own personal preferences whatever they may be. But, I didnt join an LGBT forum, I joined a big brother forum, and while other topics like other TV series etc may be relevant, LGBT stuff isn't relevant to me so I wouldn't vote for it under any circumstances

At last another voice of reason :clap1: If I wanted to hear about what people do in their sex lives ,or read about fisting etc I would join a site where like minded people hang out talking this way, but the Big Brother forum is not the place for it

[Marsh.]

At last another voice of reason :clap1: If I wanted to hear about what people do in their sex lives ,or read about fisting etc I would join a site where like minded people hang out talking this way, but the Big Brother forum is not the place for it

Who talks about fisting? :umm2:

Yet more homophobia.

[chuff me dizzy]

So the poll on this thread is not intended to see what support a new sub forum would have? .... Don't be so quick to be a smart arse you fail miserably every time

Yes thats is what the poll is for, but people have egg on their faces because of the result it shows, so changing what they claim it is for

[Marsh.]

Yes thats is what the poll is for, but people have egg on their faces because of the result it shows, so changing what they claim it is for

No. There is no vote to have the sub forum or not. The mods will make the decision or not regardless.

"Changing what they claim it is for" WTF are you actually talking about? Or did you just see your little friends and just NEED to jump in and slag every one else off without actually knowing what it is you're discussing?

[Withano]

Tbf, Kaz was the one who randomly brought up ML, Chuff just rolled with it to strange places

[Marsh.]

Just done a casual search for fisting. :smug:

Took me to a discussion about the subject that apparently appeared in January's CBB.

TiBB getting confused with the actual show itself again?

[Kazanne]

Tbf, Kaz was the one who randomly brought up ML, Chuff just rolled with it to strange places

My God it's like a school playground in here :laugh: I was responding to you saying the squad was stroking each others egos,and I replied that ML is the place where egos are stroked , is that not right ? :laugh: that is what ML is, to tell each other how very loved they are and a great member, If not why don't you tell me what it's for.

[Withano]

My God it's like a school playground in here :laugh: I was responding to you saying the squad was stroking each others egos,and I replied that ML is the place where egos are stroked , is that not right ? :laugh: that is what ML is, to tell each other how very loved they are and a great member, If not why don't you tell me what it's for.

I was just cutting chuff the slack that she got because of your random putdown.

[Kazanne]

I was just cutting chuff the slack that she got because of your random putdown.

Yes of course you were, nothing to do with telling tales eh? :laugh: I am sure people already knew as they can read.

[Marsh.]

I am genuinely laughing at people aghast at any sexual talk on here when the forum is literally named after a show where a woman shoved a wine bottle up her daisy.

The pearl clutchers could always use the ignore subforum function if the though of two people being intimate is so shocking.

Not to mention the people they routinely cheer, dance, pink elephant and clap at are no strangers to that kind of talk themselves.

[Marsh.]

As for "I didn't join an LGBT forum", well none of us joined a Dancing on Ice forum, yet its subforum is there.

If the only discussion that existed on the forum was Big Brother I feel none of us would even be here.

[Amy Jade]

Not even sure why sex is being used as a reason to deny an LGBT subforum. Being LGBT isn't just about sexual activity.

One of my best friend who so happens to be a lesbian is probably less chatty about her sex life than all the straight girls I talk to on a daily basis on whatsapp :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not even sure why sex is being used as a reason to deny an LGBT subforum. Being LGBT isn't just about sexual activity.

One of my best friend who so happens to be a lesbian is probably less chatty about her sex life than all the straight girls I talk to on a daily basis on whatsapp :laugh:

Maybe its because they are people who identify themselves by who they like to fck

When no one's gives one?

[Twosugars]

Imo, some of the resistance to LGBT subforum is latent homophobia of some people.
Which wouldn't surprise me as latent homophobia exists in society at large.
Nvm, LGBT won't dissapear from here if there's no subforum. So no biggie.

[Amy Jade]

Maybe its because they are people who identify themselves by who they like to fck

When no one's gives one?

You cared quite a lot the other day when you made a topic about pegging :think:

[bots]

Imo, some of the resistance to LGBT subforum is latent homophobia of some people.
Which wouldn't surprise me as latent homophobia exists in society at large.
Nvm, LGBT won't dissapear from here if there's no subforum. So no biggie.

throwing round a homophobia slur when people disagree with the need for an LGBT forum is not cool

[Amy Jade]

throwing round a homophobia slur when people disagree with the need for an LGBT forum is not cool

In twosugars defense he never said all opposing were homophobic, just some of the views seem very homophobic which is a pretty fair opinion given some of the replies in here :shrug: