Thailand cave rescue: Boys found alive : All out of the Cave & Safe

[arista]

Well done for pumping out the Water.

[The group have been trapped in the Tham Luang Nang Non cave complex in
Chiang Rai province, northern Thailand, for 10 days.
The boys, aged between 11 and 16, and their 25-year-old coach have
been trapped in the Tham Luang Nang Non cave
complex in Chiang Rai province for 10 days.
Provincial governor Narongsak Osatanakorn said during the
rescue operation on Monday: "We found them safe.
"But the operation isn't over."]

https://news.sky.com/story/thailand-cave-rescue-boys-found-alive-after-being-trapped-for-10-days-11424102

https://e3.365dm.com/18/07/536x302/skynews-thailand-cave-boys_4351503.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180702171945

[rusticgal]

That's brilliant...I didn't think the outcome was going to be good.

[arista]

That's brilliant...I didn't think the outcome was going to be good.



They had a bit of Food with them.


I thought they would have died.

[Barry.]

Great news.

[hijaxers]

Well done for pumping out the Water.

[The group have been trapped in the Tham Luang Nang Non cave complex in
Chiang Rai province, northern Thailand, for 10 days.
The boys, aged between 11 and 16, and their 25-year-old coach have
been trapped in the Tham Luang Nang Non cave
complex in Chiang Rai province for 10 days.
Provincial governor Narongsak Osatanakorn said during the
rescue operation on Monday: "We found them safe.
"But the operation isn't over."]

https://news.sky.com/story/thailand-cave-rescue-boys-found-alive-after-being-trapped-for-10-days-11424102

https://e3.365dm.com/18/07/536x302/skynews-thailand-cave-boys_4351503.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180702171945

This is fantastic news , so pleased they have found them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

reminds me of the Chilean miners

[Nicky91]

the rescue operation can take a month, till the rainwater is gone then they can be rescued

[Cherie]

Such great news for a change

[Vicky.]

As long as they had water, they would be fine for ages. The human body can survive months without food in most cases, with the exception of people who have diabetes and such. But glad there was a good outcome.

[Niamh.]

They still need to get them out of there, hope they manage it soon, poor kids

[Nicky91]

They still need to get them out of there, hope they manage it soon, poor kids

when it's not too dangerous anymore, they will attempt a rescue, one of the divers has stayed with them down there

they provided them with food, clean water, and a doctor went down there and said they were in good health

[Niamh.]

when it's not too dangerous anymore, they will attempt a rescue, one of the divers has stayed with them down there

they provided them with food, clean water, and a doctor went down there and said they were in good health

Yeah, they're expecting more heavy rain though which could make things worse

[Nicky91]

Yeah, they're expecting more heavy rain though which could make things worse

that could make the water rise quicker


they should go for what is the safest option i think, cause it is a definite no no to get them out too rushed


maybe covering the hole to prevent more rain coming in would be a good idea

[Livia]

I'd be interested to hear whose idea it was, to take a bunch of kids into an underground cave network during rainy season... and some of the kids can't even swim. That said... how brilliant they found them. Can't imagine what their parents have been through.

[Niamh.]

I'd be interested to hear whose idea it was, to take a bunch of kids into an underground cave network during rainy season... and some of the kids can't even swim. That said... how brilliant they found them. Can't imagine what their parents have been through.

Oh I know, I'd say they've gone through every emotion possible the last 2 weeks

[chuff me dizzy]

Brilliant result ,I didnt expect them to be found alive, well done to all the rescuers

[arista]

Yes getting them out will be hard
they have to do it soon before more rains.

https://news.sky.com/story/thailand-cave-rescue-trapped-boys-to-be-rescued-in-stages-depending-on-their-health-11425753

[Twosugars]

on channel 4 news there was a piece on those amateur British cave divers who found them
they do it as a hobby and are now considered the best in the world
whichever way they try to get those kids out it won't be easy

[Nicky91]

Yes getting them out will be hard
they have to do it soon before more rains.

https://news.sky.com/story/thailand-cave-rescue-trapped-boys-to-be-rescued-in-stages-depending-on-their-health-11425753

soon but safety first

[Cherie]

I'd be interested to hear whose idea it was, to take a bunch of kids into an underground cave network during rainy season... and some of the kids can't even swim. That said... how brilliant they found them. Can't imagine what their parents have been through.

Think the coach with them is only 25..thats youth for you

[MTVN]

Imagine having to spend weeks living in a cave at that age, great that they're alive of course but it's gonna be a traumatic time

[Eddie.]

Out of all the negativity in the news lately, it’s nice to hear something good for once... :) :love:

[user104658]

Unfortunately I'm reading that the real news is that it may be almost impossible to get them out and there's a risk even with just waiting.

Basically the choices are train these boys to dive through small, pitch black tunnels using rebreathers that take a tonne of training to use at all... a process which would literally take years to get them to the standard where there isn't a high risk of drowning on the way out.

Or they can wait for the floodwaters to subside. Best case scenario it takes months and then they can simply walk out. Worst case scenario, the floodwaters drain towards them and the area they're trapped in gets flooded and they drown right there.

It's a horrific situation, I can't imagine what it must be like for their families.

[Niamh.]

Unfortunately I'm reading that the real news is that it may be almost impossible to get them out and there's a risk even with just waiting.

Basically the choices are train these boys to dive through small, pitch black tunnels using rebreathers that take a tonne of training to use at all... a process which would literally take years to get them to the standard where there isn't a high risk of drowning on the way out.

Or they can wait for the floodwaters to subside. Best case scenario it takes months and then they can simply walk out. Worst case scenario, the floodwaters drain towards them and the area they're trapped in gets flooded and they drown right there.

It's a horrific situation, I can't imagine what it must be like for their families.

oh god those poor kids and their parents

[Twosugars]

another option they've been thinking about is to drill a hole from above

[arista]

another option they've been thinking about is to drill a hole from above

Yes of course ,much harder
as some rubble could fall on them,
so maybe not so close to the mound they are safe on.

[Twosugars]

Yes of course ,much harder
as some rubble could fall on them,
so maybe not so close to the mound they are safe on.

yes, drill some distance away
all depends on rain/water level situation I guess

[Kizzy]

Great news on the find, I say give them a crash course in diving and get them the heck out before the weather turns.

So proud to be British when I heard it was Brits who found them :)
This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that makes me patriotic!

[kirklancaster]

This is great news and is - as LT pointed out - reminiscent of the Chilean mining disaster rescue.

[user104658]

Great news on the find, I say give them a crash course in diving and get them the heck out before the weather turns.

So proud to be British when I heard it was Brits who found them :)
This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that makes me patriotic!It's just so risky though. It's not just normal diving like scuba diving, it's using rebreathers which really are for experienced divers, and in dark, cramped conditions. Some of these kids are as young as 12... If they panic, which is a huge risk, they'll drown. It's almost certain that if they go this route, some of the kids will make it and others won't.

[Niamh.]

It's just so risky though. It's not just normal diving like scuba diving, it's using rebreathers which really are for experienced divers, and in dark, cramped conditions. Some of these kids are as young as 12... If they panic, which is a huge risk, they'll drown. It's almost certain that if they go this route, some of the kids will make it and others won't.I just read that they're pumping water out of the caves right now and when they get the level low enough it'll be a lot easier for the kids to get out

[Beso]

Its about time diving was an olympic sport.

[Nicky91]

Its about time diving was an olympic sport.

we have diving in the olympics, not you forgetting your champ Tom Daley for TeamGB

[Beso]

we have diving in the olympics, not you forgetting your champ Tom Daley for TeamGB

Not that kind..:nono:

[chuff me dizzy]

Monsoon due on Saturday ,lets hope they are out and safe by them

[Alf]

we have diving in the olympics, not you forgetting your champ Tom Daley for TeamGBI don't think Tom Daley was ever a champ, was he? I thought he just became the media's favourite because he was gay.

[Niamh.]

I don't think Tom Daley was ever a champ, was he? I thought he just became the media's favourite because he was gay.

is a double World champion in the event; he won the 2009 FINA World Championship in the individual event at the age of 15, before regaining it in 2017

[Kizzy]

It's just so risky though. It's not just normal diving like scuba diving, it's using rebreathers which really are for experienced divers, and in dark, cramped conditions. Some of these kids are as young as 12... If they panic, which is a huge risk, they'll drown. It's almost certain that if they go this route, some of the kids will make it and others won't.

Yes thank you for that explanation, I was however aware of the danger having read the same info you have.

[Tom4784]

It's quite miraculous that they are alive, truly something to be thankful for.

It looks like it'll be a long while before they can be brought out safely as the conditions of the dive is enough to give professionals pause. I think it's probable that they'll have to remain there until the rainy season's over.

[Twosugars]

I don't think Tom Daley was ever a champ, was he? I thought he just became the media's favourite because he was gay.

lazy and prejudiced thinking

he was media favourite years before he came out
it was because of his talent not because he was gay

[chuff me dizzy]

lazy and prejudiced thinking

he was media favourite years before he came out
it was because of his talent not because he was gay

Even Stevie Wonder could see he was gay ,long before he came out

[Nicky91]

one diver has died trying to bring oxygen tanks to the children

[bots]

There are an awful lot of variables in this, and a lot of very difficult decisions that have to be made. Unfortunately, I don't think any scenario will result in all members of the party returning safely, its a question of if they can get any back alive

[Vicky.]

Monsoon due on Saturday ,lets hope they are out and safe by them

Jesus christ..thats awful and I really do hope they have them out by then as surely that will be the end of it either way :(

[Nicky91]

also i find it questionable if that escape route is really safe, especially when that diver died when he had passed out during his way in trying to bring more oxygen to the children


maybe trying to pump the water out of the cave is a smart idea


which is what i heard this morning at our dutch breakfast news

[Niamh.]

ugh that's awful news about the diver :( I can't imagine what those kids parents are going through right now

[Nicky91]

let's hope for a happy ending then


my advice for the kids parents would be, Always have hope, keep being positive, maybe go to church to pray for their children

[user104658]

I fear that this is going to end very badly. Oxygen inside the cave is running low, it takes expert divers 5 hours to navigate the caves alone and some of the kids can't even swim, digging down to them seems not to be feasible, pumping water as fast as they can is barely making a difference, and with every bit of rain there's a chance of the cavern they're in flooding.

As horrendous as it may sound, they need to focus on identifying which are strong swimmers and getting as many of them out fast as they can. The rest it's literally going to be down to fate / chance, and it's probably less of a risk to try to wait it out than swim. It's really horrible.

[bots]

The only realistic chance they have is to pump the water out enough so that the kids can walk out .... and do that before the rains hit. A rescue involving them diving and swimming is just not realistic.

[Cherie]

Praying for a miracle for them

[Nicky91]

Praying for a miracle for them

maybe it helps if we start a prayer circle on here for them

[Brillopad]

maybe it helps if we start a prayer circle on here for them

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44734385

A diver has died now trying to save them.

[Amy Jade]

Praying for a miracle for them

Same! such a horrible scenario :(

[Beso]

maybe it helps if we start a prayer circle on here for them

If you think it will help lets do it.

[bots]

I trust more in the professionals trying their best to save them

[Brillopad]

The caves were clearly very dangerous - so who on earth endorsed one 25 year-old taking a bunch of school kids down there, it has cost at least one diver his life trying to save them. I hope this is addressed once they are safely out.

[GoldHeart]

The caves were clearly very dangerous - so who on earth endorsed one 25 year-old taking a bunch of school kids down there, it has cost at least one diver his life trying to save them. I hope this is addressed once they are safely out.

I was wondering the same thing like why did it happen and who thought it would be a good idea ! :facepalm:

[arista]

[Elon Musk sends engineers to help Thai cave rescue
The Tesla and SpaceX boss suggests a "1m diameter nylon tube" could be inflated inside the tunnels "like a bouncy castle".]

https://e3.365dm.com/18/07/750x563/skynews-thailand-cave_4353602.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180704214651

Well done Elon.

https://news.sky.com/story/elon-musk-sends-engineers-to-help-thai-cave-rescue-11427991

[Maru]

[Elon Musk sends engineers to help Thai cave rescue
The Tesla and SpaceX boss suggests a "1m diameter nylon tube" could be inflated inside the tunnels "like a bouncy castle".]

https://e3.365dm.com/18/07/750x563/skynews-thailand-cave_4353602.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180704214651

Well done Elon.

https://news.sky.com/story/elon-musk-sends-engineers-to-help-thai-cave-rescue-11427991

:clap1:

I haven't read up on details, but I had read about the Navy Seal who drowned.

I've done spelunking in the past and there are always risks no matter how experienced you are. A friend of ours who was trained once got trapped with his friend due to rising water (i.e. rain) and so they had to wait until it leveled off... they legitimately thought they were going to die. Anyway I don't think taking in so many people at once was very wise... it's one thing to have a small group, but then a lot can go wrong with much larger groups... i.e. if someone got injured, who would stay behind, etc? I don't think a school in the US would've allowed it for the liability issues alone.

[kirklancaster]

The caves were clearly very dangerous - so who on earth endorsed one 25 year-old taking a bunch of school kids down there, it has cost at least one diver his life trying to save them. I hope this is addressed once they are safely out.

Well said, Brillo. I thought the same thing when this news first broke. I pray this has a good ending but as you say, questions have to be asked once the boys are hopefully rescued.

[Kizzy]

Well said, Brillo. I thought the same thing when this news first broke. I pray this has a good ending but as you say, questions have to be asked once the boys are hopefully rescued.

The parents of 12 boys stranded inside a northern Thailand cave have written to their children for the first time and to the coach who led them inside, telling him: “Please don’t blame yourself.”

“To all the kids,” one letter, written by the mother of Nattawut Takamsai, 14, said. “We are not mad at you at all. Do take good care of yourself. Don’t forget to cover yourself with blankets as the weather is cold. We’re worried. You will come out soon.”

She wrote to Ekkapol Chantawong, the coach: “We want you to know that no parents are angry with you at all, so don’t you worry about that.”

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/07/parents-boys-trapped-thai-cave-tell-coach-dont-blame-yourself-rescuers-race-against-time

[Tom4784]

I think it's premature to blame the coach for anything, it's just feeding into a culture of blame. The marine gave his life to help find stranded people, I doubt he was concerned with blaming the coach for this incident in the first place.

[arista]

Well done the team
that got a long oxygen tube
all the way down to the all of them.


Currently the are saying he lads are not yet fit enough
to come out one by one.

But if the Rain starts again - they should try , I say.

[arista]

Ch4HD news
says they may start taking each lad out , one by one
Tomorrow.

[Niamh.]

I think it's premature to blame the coach for anything, it's just feeding into a culture of blame. The marine gave his life to help find stranded people, I doubt he was concerned with blaming the coach for this incident in the first place.Yeah apparently it's normally fine but the rains started unusually early

[Tom4784]

Yeah apparently it's normally fine but the rains started unusually early

Yup, It could just as easily be a case that the rain forced them deeper into the cave rather than them getting in over their heads and stranded.

[Brillopad]

It was irresponsible and someone is accountable that, can’t be denied.

[bots]

it's not really time for the blame game. The rescue is now well under way and should finish sometime this afternoon. Lets hope for the best possible outcome and the least loss of life.

[Ammi]

it's not really time for the blame game. The rescue is now well under way and should finish sometime this afternoon. Lets hope for the best possible outcome and the least loss of life.

...yeah the least loss of life is all we can hope for with both the rescue team and those trapped...I’m not really a ‘prayer’ person but I do think in times like this when we’re all so helpless as to the outcome...all we can do is to try to feel as much positive energy as we can and try to focus that on those people...which I guess is what prayer is..?...so yes, praying and hoping for the best outcome, maybe a ‘miracle’ outcome of no loss of life and safety for all....

[arista]

There saying 11 hours time for each lad
to get through the murky waters
But the Heavy rain may start tomorrow


https://news.sky.com/story/live-race-to-save-boys-trapped-in-thai-cave-11428960

[Brillopad]

it's not really time for the blame game. The rescue is now well under way and should finish sometime this afternoon. Lets hope for the best possible outcome and the least loss of life.

THere shouldn’t have been any loss of life is the point though.

[user104658]

THere shouldn’t have been any loss of life is the point though.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/c8e1421ffdf5a54769d335d780d6f264/tenor.gif

[Brillopad]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/c8e1421ffdf5a54769d335d780d6f264/tenor.gif

Sounds good to me except - I would say more Captain Forseeable or even Captain Commonsense (you can choose) than Captain Hindsight. It’s not rocket science after all. :hee:

[user104658]

Sounds good to me except - I would say more Captain Forseeable or even Captain Commonsense (you can choose) than Captain Hindsight. It’s not rocket science after all. :hee:

The point is that it doesn't really matter at the moment. Kids are trapped and their lives are in danger and saying "well they shouldn't be there" is both irrelevant and unhelpful. They are there. How it came to pass should be looked into after it's all done and dusted - and I'm sure it will be - but it has nothing at all to do with the current situation.

[Brillopad]

The point is that it doesn't really matter at the moment. Kids are trapped and their lives are in danger and saying "well they shouldn't be there" is both irrelevant and unhelpful. They are there. How it came to pass should be looked into after it's all done and dusted - and I'm sure it will be - but it has nothing at all to do with the current situation.

Which is something I said in a much earlier post. But accountability here should not be forgotten. I feel for the man that died and his family as well as the children.

I have long believed that adults that participate in extreme sports or idiots doing stupid obviously risky things for example should not expect someone else to risk their lives to safe them when they inevitably get in trouble. Similar type of thing to the ‘if you can do the crime you can do the time’ way of thinking.

[arista]

Some Good news

The first 2 boys are rescued

SkyNewsHD reports

[arista]

Another 2 boys are to walk out


So 4 in total , so far




SkyNewsHD Live / CNN HD Live


Well done the International Professional Diver Groups.

https://news.sky.com/story/live-race-to-save-boys-trapped-in-thai-cave-11428960


https://e3.365dm.com/18/07/536x302/skynews-chiang-rai-thailand_4356773.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180708154045

[Eddie.]

:love:

[jaxie]

Hoping they all get out safely. It sounds difficult and frightening.

The international effort to rescue twelve Thai children and their coach, including British divers, is the kind of thing that makes you proud of humanity and gives you hope for the world.

Someone said the other day an inflatable Trump baby made them proud to be British. It's the British divers and people like them that make me proud to be British. Yes England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales I mean all of you.

[arista]

Eight boys and coach remain as Thai cave rescue paused .
https://news.sky.com/story/live-race-to-save-boys-trapped-in-thai-cave-11428960

[Four youngsters led to safety but rescue workers need "up to 20 hours" to prepare for next phase of operation.]

[Ammi]

...amazing for those 4 and their families..:lovedup:...and hoping for the same for all those left...

[arista]

The Rain has now started again.
Ch4news Reporter Johnathon Miller
also reports on CNN HD.

He said they must get the other 8 and the Coach leader
out very soon.

[bots]

the oxygen has been depleted with all the divers in the cave so they need to wait until that builds up again

[arista]

the oxygen has been depleted with all the divers in the cave so they need to wait until that builds up again


Very True

[Northern Monkey]

Well done to them :clap1:

It was looking very bleak.I was expecting the worst tbh.

[Maru]

An inspiring story to be sure

[Cherie]

I don't like the blame game, these are a young group, and people make mistakes all the time, that is why there are groups trained to rescue because people do stupid stuff, hope they all get out safely

[Nicky91]

amazing news for those who now got rescued, my prayers still go out to those still trapped, i hope they can rescue them as well

[Niamh.]

I don't like the blame game, these are a young group, and people make mistakes all the time, that is why there are groups trained to rescue because people do stupid stuff, hope they all get out safely

Yeah and apparently it's normally perfectly safe to go there, it was a bit of a freak thing that they flooded so early

brilliant news that they've gotten 4 of them out, fingers crossed for the rest of them

[Cherie]

6 out now :fc:

[Twosugars]

so half-way through

perched for a decent documentary of the whole business in future

[Denver]

7th out

[Niamh.]

great news

[Nicky91]

great news so far

[arista]

8 are out in total today
now leaving 4 lads and their Coach Leader

https://news.sky.com/story/thailand-cave-rescue-eight-boys-rescued-but-four-more-plus-coach-remain-trapped-11431248

[Crimson Dynamo]

still working out why any adult would take them in a fecking cave?

[Cherie]

I guess Coach will be last out, how terrifying

[arista]

still working out why any adult would take them in a fecking cave?


Due to bad weather
at the time he was in charge

[arista]

"Tenth person seen carried out of Thai cave on a stretcher - @Reuters witness"

[Niamh.]

"Tenth person seen carried out of Thai cave on a stretcher - @Reuters witness"

Hope he's ok

[arista]

11 out so far
He was carried out
off to the Hospital
https://news.sky.com/story/live-mission-begins-to-rescue-last-four-boys-from-thai-cave-11431632

[Beso]

Saying a prayer...such a heart wrenching end.

[Cherie]

is it just the coach left now then

[bots]

is it just the coach left now then

and the support team that were there looking after them ... so quite a few yet to come out

[Amy Jade]

All the boys are out now just the coach to go!

[Niamh.]

All the boys are out now just the coach to go!

That's such great news, hope the coach is ok too

[Matthew.]

All the boys are out now just the coach to go!

brilliant news :love:

[Matthew.]

apparently everyone is now out

[Amy Jade]

That's such great news, hope the coach is ok too

On Loose Women they have said he's now out too

[arista]

Yes all are out
of the Cave.

Well done all the International Divers
who used ropes to the lads to hang onto in the thin parts of the caves

https://news.sky.com/story/live-mission-begins-to-rescue-last-four-boys-from-thai-cave-11431632

[Cherie]

Fantastic :clap2:

[Cherie]

OBE's all round to the rescue team you would hope

RIP the diver who lost his life

[Denver]

I am glad they are out but the next few days/weeks will be crucial for them

[Kazanne]

So pleased they are all out,but imagine being the last one in there waiting to be saved,that would be scarey, so nice to have some good news. Just a shame one of the rescuers died.

[Crimson Dynamo]

hopefully now they can push little mix in the cave and seal it up

:fc:

[Denver]

hopefully now they can push little mix in the cave and seal it up

:fc:

I was gonna say the GC but

[user104658]

Brilliant news, I'm genuinely surprised that this ended as well as it has, even given the death of the diver.

I am glad they are out but the next few days/weeks will be crucial for them

I agree with that; I hope these boys are receiving the psychological help they'll certainly need, and it's not being assumed that just because they're out and alive that they will be fine. It will have been a hugely traumatic event for them, things like PTSD are a very real risk.

[Tom4784]

Good news although the recovery process will be long, having everyone found and safely rescued is a fantastic result.

[Cherie]

Navy Seals :clap1:

[Kazanne]

hopefully now they can push little mix in the cave and seal it up

:fc:

:laugh::laugh:

[Nicky91]

amazing news, i feel sad though for the diver who lost his life trying to rescue the kids

[Cherie]

and the support team that were there looking after them ... so quite a few yet to come out

I heard just now they brought the kids out 4 by 4 so it looks like no one was left behind alone

[Livia]

What an amazing international effort. So pleased to hear that everyone got out... and very sad about the soldier who lost his life.

[Twosugars]

well done to them!

[Beso]

This makes me so happy..


What a truely remarkable story, i hope we get all the details about how the rescue took place..

Absolutely fantastic news, such brave men...and the boys themselves..10 days...10 days in pitch black...doubt i would have coped.

[smudgie]

This news is just amazing.
To get them all out safe is fantastic.
So sorry that the diver lost his life.
Such brave men.

[AnnieK]

Fantastic news......
Hero rescuers.

[kirklancaster]

Just absolutely good news for a change, and as Liv says, a statement has been made of what CAN be achieved by different Nations cooperating.

[Nicky91]

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/apr/30/netflix-names-directors-of-thai-cave-rescue-drama

Netflix drama about the thai cave rescue is a go