London Mayor authorises giant orange baby Trump blimp during his visit

[Northern Monkey]

Row breaks out over giant baby Donald Trump blimp which will be flown over London during US president's visit.

A row has erupted after Sadiq Khan gave his permission for a giant balloon of Donald Trump to be flown over Westminster by protesters during the US President’s official visit to London.

The controversial decision has sparked outrage amongst pro Trump campaigners but has been widely applauded by those planning to protest the President’s visit.

The police and national air traffic service will have the final say on whether the unflattering portrayal of the President can take to the skies.

But Mr Khan has described the balloon as a symbol of “peaceful protest”.


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/row-breaks-out-over-giant-baby-donald-trump-blimp-which-will-be-flown-over-london-during-us-a3880581.html

[Alf]

How embarrassing for us all.

[Amy Jade]

It's disrespectful.

I am no fan of Trump at all but when I read this earlier I just felt it was petty and silly.

[Twosugars]

:joker:
Hope it goes ahead
Giant orange balloon full of hot air, perfect
Makes you proud to be British :cheer2:

[Glenn.]

Screeching at this.

[bots]

The Mayor and Trump have history. What it shows is how petty and vindictive the Mayor is. The better person would treat Trump with respect

[kirklancaster]

It's disrespectful.

I am no fan of Trump at all but when I read this earlier I just felt it was petty and silly.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: ^ THIS is exactly why I love you, A.J. - you are so balanced and fair. Trump is deeply flawed, but he is the democratically elected President of the United States, one of our closest allies, and as the Mayor of our Capital city, Kahn should dignify that office and show respect.

Far worse leaders than Trump have been received by the UK including Romania’s Nicolae Ceausescu, Chinese President Xi Jinping, Zimbabwe’s Robert Mugabe, King Salman of Saudi Arabia and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

'Petty and silly' and 'disrespectful' are wonderfully apt descriptors.

[kirklancaster]

The Mayor and Trump have history. What it shows is how petty and vindictive the Mayor is. The better person would treat Trump with respect

:clap1::clap1::clap1: This post is even MORE applaudable because I know you are no Trump fan, BOTS.

[Kazanne]

How stupidly childish is this,we must be a laughing stock,he may not be liked by some,but there are much worse people than him who have visited,maybe this idiot mayor was too scared of the ramifications of doing it for more radical visitors, as bots said, a bigger person would not have allowed it, The mayor is happy to have Trump made a figure of fun,maybe he should be looking a little closer to home,it's bloody embarrassing.

[Kazanne]

:joker:
Hope it goes ahead
Giant orange balloon full of hot air, perfect
Makes you proud to be British :cheer2:

Really ? I find it embarrassing and childish.

[Brillopad]

Row breaks out over giant baby Donald Trump blimp which will be flown over London during US president's visit.

A row has erupted after Sadiq Khan gave his permission for a giant balloon of Donald Trump to be flown over Westminster by protesters during the US President’s official visit to London.

The controversial decision has sparked outrage amongst pro Trump campaigners but has been widely applauded by those planning to protest the President’s visit.

The police and national air traffic service will have the final say on whether the unflattering portrayal of the President can take to the skies.

But Mr Khan has described the balloon as a symbol of “peaceful protest”.


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/row-breaks-out-over-giant-baby-donald-trump-blimp-which-will-be-flown-over-london-during-us-a3880581.html

They are all a bunch of morons throwing a tantrum and Sadiq should be sacked for being so unprofessional. That’s what we have as a major. He needs to direct his energies to tackling knife crime in London but would rather poke his tongue out at Trump. No wonder London is in such a state.

[Brillopad]

The Mayor and Trump have history. What it shows is how petty and vindictive the Mayor is. The better person would treat Trump with respect

It proves that Khan is no better than he accuses Trump of being and is just as childish. Pot and kettle.

[bots]

An awful lot of Americans spend good tourist money in London. By allowing this, the Mayor is letting his personal feelings override the well being and prosperity of the people he represents. By allowing this he is automatically generating bad feeling with a huge number of voters that chose Trump as their president and would have spent their $ in London.

[Cherie]

The major is elected to represent Londoners, like anyone else in business or otherwise he needs to be professionsl, no matter where you stand in politics this is embarrassing

[Cherie]

:joker:
Hope it goes ahead
Giant orange balloon full of hot air, perfect
Makes you proud to be British :cheer2:

Does it really, from a professional and business point of view I don’t think so, its a pity he isnt more active in other areas affecting London, so far as Mayor I cant point to anything he has done :shrug:

[Beso]

What a vile thoughtless little man..an unneccessarry expense all round and money the victims of grenfell could have used in a more productive way had these moronic protestors been as kind and caring about others as they would like us to believe

[Brillopad]

The major is elected to represent Londoners, like anyone else in business or otherwise he needs to be professionsl, no matter where you stand in politics this is embarrassing

He and they are embarrassing themselves - but everyone else will have to pick up the pieces. Shame on Khan.

[arista]

Typical of the mayor

[jaxie]

How embarrassing for us all.

That's exactly what I thought when the news article about this yesterday. Makes me wonder about people who planned and paid for this

And as Bots suggested it does make you wonder at the kind of petty fool the Mayor of London is.

If those who planned this and the mayor who approved think this makes them somehow better than Trump they're sadly mistaken.

[Northern Monkey]

Trying to piss off our greatest ally Just before we Brexit.Very clever Sadiq you fecking brain donor.

[smudgie]

Pathetic.:fist:

Not one of his best decisions, shows him up somewhat.

[Vicky.]

OK I am not thrilled by Trumps visit and the way so many police are being taken off the street to protect an arsehole, however, this is childish as ****. Yes its a peaceful protest, but its still childish.

[Brillopad]

:joker:
Hope it goes ahead
Giant orange balloon full of hot air, perfect
Makes you proud to be British :cheer2:

I think you’re rather outnumbered on this. There is nothing to be proud about when our childish and vindictive major shows his true colours. He is every bit as bad as Trump.

[Crimson Dynamo]

No surprise with the vile mayor and his agenda

embarrassing for London

[Matthew.]

meh

it’s not as funny as the Mayor of Sheffield calling him a “wasteman” and banning him from Sheffield, though :laugh:

[Cherie]

Commuters in South London were told not to travel to London yesterday, has he been vocal on that shambles?

[Kazanne]

meh

it’s not as funny as the Mayor of Sheffield calling him a “wasteman” and banning him from Sheffield, though :laugh:

I just heard this,wtf ? and the dick is on The Wright stuff now,pathetic.

[Toy Soldier]

The USA is all about free speech (allegedly) and this is an expression of freedom to protest :shrug:. As an American, Trump should understand :hee:.

As for alienating US tourists... The majority of US citizens who are fans of Trump have most likely never left their home state, let alone the country.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The USA is all about free speech (allegedly) and this is an expression of freedom to protest :shrug:. As an American, Trump should understand :hee:.

As for alienating US tourists... The majority of US citizens who are fans of Trump have most likely never left their home state, let alone the country.

nonsense

:joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

1 word .................. IDIOT :bored:

[bots]

The USA is all about free speech (allegedly) and this is an expression of freedom to protest :shrug:. As an American, Trump should understand :hee:.

As for alienating US tourists... The majority of US citizens who are fans of Trump have most likely never left their home state, let alone the country.

when the **** hits the fan and tourism rates go down I will quote this. Irrespective of that, the mayor is still letting personal views dictate his judgement, and that's not what he is there for. He is supposed to represent all Londoners, not just those that share his political stance.

[Crimson Dynamo]

this is the level of their "protest" and it shows you just who these people are


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/thumb/msid-64873294,imgsize-85545,width-400,resizemode-4/64873294.jpg

[Kazanne]

I can't get my head round just how childish this is, the mayor of London needs to be doing things that matter for London, what a prick he is,the money spent on all that could have gone to some worthy cause, people need to stop soaking up all the fake and hysterical news about Trump, and remember we will probably need the US when we finally exit the EU. It's not even an inflatable that makes any sense.

[Kazanne]

this is the level of their "protest" and it shows you just who these people are


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/thumb/msid-64873294,imgsize-85545,width-400,resizemode-4/64873294.jpg

I hope the heat deflates it.

[chuff me dizzy]

I admire Trump,hes doing what he said he would do .... Putting America and its people first ,I wish our government would follow his lead

[Crimson Dynamo]

someone should shoot it

[Matthew.]

I just heard this,wtf ? and the dick is on The Wright stuff now,pathetic.

i’ve just switched over now, Kazanne
im not keen on his shirt tbh or his hat

[Kazanne]

i’ve just switched over now, Kazanne
im not keen on his shirt tbh or his hat

:laugh: Yes how bad mannered, wearing that hat inside. He's a cocky sod aswell.

[Toy Soldier]

nonsense

:joker:

It isn't.



when the **** hits the fan and tourism rates go down I will quote this.

They won't go down any more than UK tourism rates to the US went down when Obama spoke out against Brexit (i.e. Zero).


I can't get my head round just how childish this is

Watch half an hour of Commons debate. UK politics is immature, snide and silly :shrug:. Always has been.

[Kazanne]

It isn't.





They won't go down any more than UK tourism rates to the US went down when Obama spoke out against Brexit (i.e. Zero).




Watch half an hour of Commons debate. UK politics is immature, snide and silly :shrug:. Always has been.

But no silly childish inflatables as yet.

[Toy Soldier]

But no silly childish inflatables as yet.Only because they can't fit them through the door.

[Niamh.]

In my head I know it's childish and disrespectful but in my heart it's also hilarious and I guess it's a bit of karma to a disrespectful man :hehe:

[Cherie]

The USA is all about free speech (allegedly) and this is an expression of freedom to protest :shrug:. As an American, Trump should understand :hee:.

As for alienating US tourists... The majority of US citizens who are fans of Trump have most likely never left their home state, let alone the country.

Who is supressing the right to free speech, if Americans flew an inflatable blimp of Khan I would say the same thing, it’s inane and has no place in a protest that wants to be taken seriously :laugh:

[Cherie]

In my head I know it's childish and disrespectful but in my heart it's also hilarious and I guess it's a bit of karma to a disrespectful man :hehe:

Do you think he will care, I don’t, American business might feel differently, the man went to Korea and afer all the insults that were traded they treated each other with respect which is how elected leaders should behave, Khan is a total mess

[Vicky.]

Only because they can't fit them through the door.

:laugh: Very true.

[Niamh.]

Do you think he will care, I don’t, American business might feel differently, the man went to Korea and afer all the insults that were traded they treated each other with respect which is how elected leaders should behave, Khan is a total mess

umm yes, have you read his Tweets in the past :laugh:

[Toy Soldier]

Who is supressing the right to free speech

The people who think it should have been disallowed / banned.

if American flew an inflatable blimp of Khan I would say the same thing, it’s inane and has no place in a protest that wants to be taken seriously[/b] [emoji23]

Maybe. Protesters in the US would be allowed to fly it if they wanted to, though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

from about half a mile away it will look like a Mcdonalds balloon. No one will see it bar the twats holding the string

:laugh2:

[Toy Soldier]

Do you think he will care, I don’t, American business might feel differently, the man went to Korea and afer all the insults that were traded they treated each other with respect which is how elected leaders should behave, Khan is a total messAmerican businesses (or multinationals based anywhere else for that matter) don't care about anything but their profit line, they're not going to take an ideological stance of any kind. In fact... If Trump blimps suddenly become very popular, they'll probably start selling them themselves :joker:.

[Toy Soldier]

from about half a mile away it will look like a Mcdonalds balloon. No one will see it bar the twats holding the string

:laugh2:I've heard these Televisibop doodads are becoming more and more popular though LT. It's like a magic window that let's you see all sorts of things from all over the world up close... Right there in your own living room!!

I was surprised too and a little scared at first, but I have to say it has been really enlightening and I wholeheartedly recommend saving up for one.

[Cherie]

American businesses (or multinationals based anywhere else for that matter) don't care about anything but their profit line, they're not going to take an ideological stance of any kind. In fact... If Trump blimps suddenly become very popular, they'll probably start selling them themselves :joker:.

We will see won’t we

[Cherie]

The people who think it should have been disallowed / banned.



Maybe. Protesters in the US would be allowed to fly it if they wanted to, though.

What is the blimp saying exactly? Nah na na na nah? Is that the level here?

[chuff me dizzy]

meh

it’s not as funny as the Mayor of Sheffield calling him a “wasteman” and banning him from Sheffield, though :laugh:

This idiot is an unelected, plastic "Mayor" with zero power .My niece is a councillor and was invited to his robing ,needless to say she didnt go ,neither did countless others ,Hes a muslim and being used to make the people of South Yorkshire look inclusive, Im sure if they had given it a bit more thought they could have chose someone a lot more suitable than this idiot

[Brillopad]

I've heard these Televisibop doodads are becoming more and more popular though LT. It's like a magic window that let's you see all sorts of things from all over the world up close... Right there in your own living room!!

I was surprised too and a little scared at first, but I have to say it has been really enlightening and I wholeheartedly recommend saving up for one.

It’s very sad though - playground stuff - even more evidence, if it were needed, that the far left are very childish and petty! Perhaps they should concentrate on others things more suitable to their developmental stage as well as learning a valuable lesson about those in glass houses!

[Toy Soldier]

Trump is all about "playground stuff". I'm not saying that I think it's clever or a good idea (mainly I think it's a waste of time), just that it's par for the course in politics these days, and "banning it" would be overly authoritarian. Freedom of expression is freedom of expression, for everyone, whether their message is "daft" or not. Really bugs me when people are all about being "non PC" and "freedom of speech"... But only when it suits.

Whether you like it or not; banning this silly blimp would be an example of "PC". :shrug:.

[Brillopad]

Trump is all about "playground stuff". I'm not saying that I think it's clever or a good idea (mainly I think it's a waste of time), just that it's par for the course in politics these days, and "banning it" would be overly authoritarian. Freedom of expression is freedom of expression, for everyone, whether their message is "daft" or not. Really bugs me when people are all about being "non PC" and "freedom of speech"... But only when it suits.

Whether you like it or not; banning this silly blimp would be an example of "PC". :shrug:.

Maybe - but maybe being on the receiving end of PC for a change would teach them another valuable lesson. If they are so quick to dish it out they can surely take it in return - or not!

[chuff me dizzy]

Yet Bush and Obama were welcomed with open arms ,even though they both separated children from their parents ( if this is Khans gripe )

[Niamh.]

Have I missed the part where this was all Khans idea? :suspect:

[Brillopad]

Yet Bush and Obama were welcomed with open arms ,even though they both separated children from their parents ( if this is Khans gripe )

Any opposition to large scale immigration is Khan’ gripe!

[chuff me dizzy]

Any opposition to large scale immigration is Khan’ gripe!

They are his voters and the reason hes in power

[T*]

it’s not that deep tbh

[Niamh.]

it’s not that deep tbh

:hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I expect Khan wont even watch the game Saturday

typical

:bored:

[Nicky91]

They are his voters and the reason hes in power

well same you have here in holland in Rotterdam more precisely, Mayor Aboutaleb, who also is in power cause Rotterdam has a large moroccan ethnic population more recently


a example to back up your post Chuff, i also think Khan has a large group of followers, from what you say immigrants

[Amy Jade]

I hope someone shoots it with an air rifle actually now that I would laugh at

[Underscore]

democratically elected President of the United States

See he didn’t even win the most votes which usually is the marker for a democratically elected president in most countries. He won by the system, not the people.

[Underscore]

I hope someone shoots it with an air rifle actually now that I would laugh at

I hope they get thrown in jail then because that’s illegal

[Underscore]

well same you have here in holland in Rotterdam more precisely, Mayor Aboutaleb, who also is in power cause Rotterdam has a large moroccan ethnic population more recently


a example to back up your post Chuff, i also think Khan has a large group of followers, from what you say immigrants

Khan got a majority of the votes in London.

[Amy Jade]

I hope they get thrown in jail then because that’s illegal

Prove who it was :)

[chuff me dizzy]

Bush who along with Blair hands drip with soldiers and civilians blood over Iraq lies, but was welcome here

[Underscore]

Prove who it was :)

In a city like London I’m wholly sure there are CCTV cameras and people everywhere.

[chuff me dizzy]

I hope someone shoots it with an air rifle actually now that I would laugh at

Me too

[Matthew.]

i would have posted the picture of the woman with a sign saying “trump is a cunt” but i think that’s breaking some kind of rules so i wont.

but i agree with Niamh on this. The reality is that it is quite unnecessary but also Donald Trump is a massive bloody wanker. His beliefs, in my view, have absolutely no place in 2018. the way he speaks about women, ethnic minorities and the LGBT community is absolutely disgraceful and he is an awful person. He just seems like everything that you do not want your world leader to be - almost seems like an exaggeration sometimes.

In my opinion...
Yes to the baby trump balloon thing
Yes to banning him from Sheffield
Yes to potentially rubbing his hair with a balloon to make him look a twat
No to him being treated like a saint when he comes here

[Underscore]

i would have posted the picture of the woman with a sign saying “trump is a cunt” but i think that’s breaking some kind of rules so i wont.

but i agree with Niamh on this. The reality is that it is quite unnecessary but also Donald Trump is a massive bloody wanker. His beliefs, in my view, have absolutely no place in 2018. the way he speaks about women, ethnic minorities and the LGBT community is absolutely disgraceful and he is an awful person. He just seems like everything that you do not want your world leader to be - almost seems like an exaggeration sometimes.

In my opinion...
Yes to the baby trump balloon thing
Yes to banning him from Sheffield
Yes to potentially rubbing his hair with a balloon to make him look a twat
No to him being treated like a saint when he comes here

Nail meet head

Well done my love :love:

[Brillopad]

See he didn’t even win the most votes which usually is the marker for a democratically elected president in most countries. He won by the system, not the people.

The same would have applied to Obama, Clinton and all other American presidents. The system is the system that apples to all - so your point is pointless!

[Brillopad]

In a city like London I’m wholly sure there are CCTV cameras and people everywhere.

Oh yeah - they are going to go to all that trouble for a balloon - get real!

[Underscore]

The same would have applied to Obama, Clinton and all other American presidents. The system is the system that apples to all - so your point is pointless!

Obama won the most votes
Clinton won the most votes...

Ergo they had a mandate

George Bush didn’t the first time and I’d have argued then he shouldn’t have gone to Iraq because of it

Read up on your facts next time

[Underscore]

Oh yeah - they are going to go to all that trouble for a balloon - get real!

If you shoot a gun in London you deserve what’s coming to you especially in this high security climate.

[Toy Soldier]

The same would have applied to Obama, Clinton and all other American presidents. The system is the system that apples to all - so your point is pointless!Obama won the popular vote by nearly 10 million votes.

Trump LOST the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes.



... It doesn't apply at all?

[Underscore]

Obama won the popular vote by nearly 10 million votes.

Trump LOST the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes.



... It doesn't apply at all?

My point exactly! :love:

[Matthew.]

Nail meet head

Well done my love :love:

aw thank you :hug:

[Brillopad]

My point exactly! :love:

No it wasn’t.

[Underscore]

No it wasn’t.

Don’t you dare tell me what you think I meant.

I clearly said trump didn’t win the most votes and the system elected him... therefore he was undemocratically elected

[Matthew.]

Obama won the popular vote by nearly 10 million votes.

Trump LOST the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes.



... It doesn't apply at all?

great point!

[Brillopad]

Obama won the popular vote by nearly 10 million votes.

Trump LOST the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes.



... It doesn't apply at all?

Regardless it is the system - he won - people really need to get over it. The same people are sulking about Trump and Brexit because the votes didn’t go their way - diddums!

[Underscore]

Regardless it is the system - he won - people really need to get over it. The same people are sulking about Trump and Brexit because the votes didn’t go their way - diddums!

So don’t continue calling him democratically elected.

[Brillopad]

great point!

Changes nothing.

[Brillopad]

So don’t continue calling him democratically elected.

He won - that’s all that counts in a democracy!

[Underscore]

He won - that’s all that counts in a democracy!

No... democracy is getting the most votes and winning. That’s the whole point of a democracy otherwise it’s an autocracy...

[Matthew.]

Changes nothing.

like Underscore said, it means you shouldn’t exactly be describing him as democratically elected. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. Donald Trump lost but because of the ridiculous electoral college thing they have over there, Trump still won.

[Niamh.]

Obama won the popular vote by nearly 10 million votes.

Trump LOST the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes.



... It doesn't apply at all?

Michelle for President next imo

[Underscore]

Michelle for President next imo

This.

Hell I’d go and move there just to vote for her.

[bots]

Trump was democratically elected because it was the democratic system that all parties agreed to abide by

[Crimson Dynamo]

Michelle for President next imo


She wants to be a celeb not a politician

she hasnt got the balls, like Donald has

[Twosugars]

this is the level of their "protest" and it shows you just who these people are


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/thumb/msid-64873294,imgsize-85545,width-400,resizemode-4/64873294.jpg

love it:cheer2:

I hope it's not too small tho, Trump deserves the best and the biggest

[Toy Soldier]

Trump was democratically elected.

Trump is legitimately the elected president of the United States.

Trump does represent the United States as an entity.


... Trump however CANNOT be described as representing the majority of US citizens. The figures show that he simply does not. He represents almost, but less than, half of them. Those are the figures and I have no idea how anyone can argue with cold hard numbers :joker:.

[Niamh.]

She wants to be a celeb not a politician

she hasnt got the balls, like Donald has

Of course she doesn't she's a woman :nono:

[RichardG]

the mayor is utterly useless, i wouldn’t expect anything else from him

[Crimson Dynamo]

Of course she doesn't she's a woman :nono:

:suspect:

[Brillopad]

No... democracy is getting the most votes and winning. That’s the whole point of a democracy otherwise it’s an autocracy...

That’s the system that all were aware of. Can’t change the system because it didn’t work in your favour. Sick of all the sore losers trying every trick in the book to overturn democracy when it suits and the constant whinging and whining. It won’t change anything. You would be blowing a gasket if it were the other way round.

[Niamh.]

:suspect:

http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar37810_1211.gif

[Brillopad]

the mayor is utterly useless, i wouldn’t expect anything else from him

He is a figurehead for immigration. Nothing more! He needs to go now!

[Matthew.]

i live near his golf course and they’re spending heaps on high security so he can have a game of golf, i imagine michael forbes is raging af :hehe:

[Underscore]

That’s the system that all were aware of. Can’t change the system because it didn’t work in your favour. Sick of all the sore losers trying every trick in the book to overturn democracy when it suits and the constant whinging and whining. It won’t change anything. You would be blowing a gasket if it were the other way round.

What? We’re sore losers for wanting a fair and open democracy that you know... actually is a democracy?

[Underscore]

i live near his golf course and they’re spending heaps on high security so he can have a game of golf, i imagine michael forbes is raging af :hehe:

I think it was 50 million or something for security?

When this could be spent on our NHS?

[Matthew.]

I think it was 50 million or something for security?

When this could be spent on our NHS?

exactly, why is the tongue of this country licking the ****E out of his arse just so the president can have a nice holiday when we’re in desperate need of the money being spent on things we NEED?

**** sake man

[Twosugars]

this is the level of their "protest" and it shows you just who these people are


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/thumb/msid-64873294,imgsize-85545,width-400,resizemode-4/64873294.jpg

LT, where are your "trained journalistic skills" with an eye for a snappy picture now?

[kirklancaster]

Trump was democratically elected because it was the democratic system that all parties agreed to abide by

Thank God for some HONESTY and balance. I am sick of straw-clutching pedantic hair-splitting drivel on here.

[Brillopad]

I think it was 50 million or something for security?

When this could be spent on our NHS?

All that money spent on processing and filtering out illegal economic migrants could be better spent on the NHS. These people are costing us a fortune!

[Twosugars]

Trump will love the balloon, as long as it's the biggest and the best, so hopefully the protesters do a good job

[Underscore]

Thank God for some HONESTY and balance. I am sick of straw-clutching pedantic hair-splitting drivel on here.

That’s your opinion - no opinion is true unless backed up by a fact.

Democracy is rule by the majority.

Trump is practicing rule by the minority.

[Brillopad]

What? We’re sore losers for wanting a fair and open democracy that you know... actually is a democracy?

Problem with that is it is only a democracy apparently when you say so! :nono:

[Brillopad]

That’s your opinion - no opinion is true unless backed up by a fact.

Democracy is rule by the majority.

Trump is practicing rule by the minority.

Takes one to know one!

[Matthew.]

All that money spent on processing and filtering out illegal economic migrants could be better spent on the NHS. These people are costing us a fortune!

you’re missing the point pal

[Brillopad]

Trump will love the balloon, as long as it's the biggest and the best, so hopefully the protesters do a good job

The protestors need to get a life!

[chuff me dizzy]

He is a figurehead for immigration. Nothing more! He needs to go now!

:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT, where are your "trained journalistic skills" with an eye for a snappy picture now?

Its the actual thing in question that should have been on the first post?

[chuff me dizzy]

Thank God for some HONESTY and balance. I am sick of straw-clutching pedantic hair-splitting drivel on here.

Ditto

[Brillopad]

you’re missing the point pal

No - you are! Just keep moaning and boring us all - you won’t change a thing except maybe give us all eye strain.

[Crimson Dynamo]

And he is golfing on the visit

:clap1:

[Nicky91]

you’re missing the point pal

awkward when Brillo is a she, being called pal

[Matthew.]

awkward when Brillo is a she, being called pal

pal means friend, nicky.

[Toy Soldier]

Thank God for some HONESTY and balance. I am sick of straw-clutching pedantic hair-splitting drivel on here.If that's the case Kirk, and not disputing that Trump was legitimately elected president by the country's established electoral system;

Did the majority of voting US citizens vote for Trump?

Yes or no.

And therefore, can it be stated that he represents the majority of US citizens (not the US as a country).

Again yes or no.

[Brillopad]

awkward when Brillo is a she, being called pal

That’s ok Nicky - it just proves some are not on the ball and generally missing the point! :hee:

[Matthew.]

No - you are! Just keep moaning and boring us all - you won’t change a thing except maybe give us all eye strain.

i never moan about anything :fist:

[Niamh.]

awkward when Brillo is a she, being called pal

why? Pal isn't a masculine word :suspect:

[Crimson Dynamo]

why? Pal isn't a masculine word :suspect:

its never used for a wifie in Scotland

hen would be used

[Nicky91]

pal means friend, nicky.

anyway your opinion of this is yours, don't let anyone doubt yourself


anyway i find it quite immature of Khan if he truly said ''giant orange baby'' referring to trump

[Niamh.]

its never used for a wifie in Scotland

hen would be used

Pal just means friend though. feck off with your wifie and hens :nono:

[Twosugars]

Its the actual thing in question that should have been on the first post?

think the visit and the giant baby:

Trump and baby being caught in one shot
Trump with a baby looming over him

possibilities are endless

surprised you can lose that journalist's eye together with your sense of humour just like that :hehe:

[bots]

its never used for a wifie in Scotland

hen would be used

Only if your only source of educational material is the Broons or our Willie

[Matthew.]

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[Matthew.]

Only if your only source of educational material is the Broons or our Willie

nowt wrong with Oor Wullie and The Broons! :nono:

[Twosugars]

anyway your opinion of this is yours, don't let anyone doubt yourself


anyway i find it quite immature of Khan if he truly said ''giant orange baby'' referring to trump

Khan is not involved in the protest, Nicky. He simply okayed the idea as local authority for London. Idk if he called Trump anything, but if he did he'd be justfied as Trump had a go at him many times.

[Nicky91]

Khan is not involved in the protest, Nicky. He simply okayed the idea as local authority for London. Idk if he called Trump anything, but if he did he'd be justfied as Trump had a go at him many times.

yeah well i never really liked Khan from what i've seen from him

[Twosugars]

from the OP article:
A spokesperson for the Mayor of London said: “The Mayor supports the right to peaceful protest and understands that this can take many different forms.

"His city operations team have met with the organisers and have given them permission to use Parliament Square Garden as a grounding point for the blimp.

“However the organisers will also need to receive the necessary approvals from the Metropolitan Police and National Air Traffic Service in order for it to fly.”

[Twosugars]

yeah well i never really liked Khan from what i've seen from him

yeah, you're more into Putin and Trump

[Matthew.]

yeah, you're more into Putin and Trump

:hehe:

[Nicky91]

yeah, you're more into Putin and Trump

Putin more because he has dutch family now, in laws from his daughter's husband who is dutch


Trump well not because of him, but i like Tiffany Trump and i find all the hate she gets so undeserved just because of what her father does and says

[Matthew.]

i like Tiffany Trump

i wonder why

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wonder is Kahn would sanction a big blimp of the Prophet Mohamed for an EDL rally in London?

[Brillopad]

I wonder is Kahn would sanction a big blimp of the Prophet Mohamed for an EDL rally in London?

Would he hell! Favouritism!

[Matthew.]

it’s not exactly the same though is it

[Brillopad]

it’s not exactly the same though is it

Why not?

[Matthew.]

Why not?

because the prophet muhammad is a religious figure

[chuff me dizzy]

I wonder is Kahn would sanction a big blimp of the Prophet Mohamed for an EDL rally in London?

:clap1: I wonder too !

[chuff me dizzy]

because the prophet muhammad is a religious figure

England is a Christian country

[Crimson Dynamo]

because the prophet muhammad is a religious figure

and?

he has not and does not exist so it should be an easier decision

[Brillopad]

because the prophet muhammad is a religious figure

So! Religion isn’t even real - it’s a belief!

[Matthew.]

England is a Christian country

maybe so, but trump is not a religious figure

[Brillopad]

maybe so, but trump is not a religious figure

No he is a President - which makes him a lot more relevant that some imaginary prophet.

[Crimson Dynamo]

maybe so, but trump is not a religious figure

No he is a real person, a father and the leader of out closest allies

[Kazanne]

1015183466781167616

Me thinks Piers is being sarcastic here.:hehe:

[chuff me dizzy]

No he is a President - which makes him a lot more relevant that some imaginary prophet.

:clap1: ALL true

[chuff me dizzy]

Me thinks Piers is being sarcastic here.:hehe:

Got to love Piers !! :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

maybe so, but trump is not a religious figure

No hes more important than that

[arista]

Me thinks Piers is being sarcastic here.:hehe:

yes sounds like it

[chuff me dizzy]

https://www.westmonster.com/campaign-for-baby-khan-balloon-smashes-10k-target/

[Niamh.]

Baby Blimp wars :laugh2: I love it, you lot are hilarious

[chuff me dizzy]

https://www.mrctv.org/blog/abc-admits-media-peddled-fake-news-immigration-suggests-it-was-worth-it

[chuff me dizzy]

Baby Blimp wars :laugh2: I love it, you lot are hilarious

Target smashed in less than 24 hours

[Niamh.]

Target smashed in less than 24 hours

They need to get a few more up there tbh :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

They need to get a few more up there tbh :laugh:

I could write a list of people I would like to drift off into the Sky over London :joker:

[Niamh.]

I could write a list of people I would like to drift off into the Sky over London :joker:

Seriously though how funny would it be to fill the sky with baby politician blimps :laugh:

[Brillopad]

I could write a list of people I would like to drift off into the Sky over London :joker:

Including Khan himself! :hee:

[chuff me dizzy]

Seriously though how funny would it be to fill the sky with baby politician blimps :laugh:

Who thought up the idea of making an effigy of President Trump needs sectioning,along with Khan who allowed it ....... how bloody childish ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Including Khan himself! :hee:

His would be the 2nd one ,after Corbyn !

[Niamh.]

Who thought up the idea of making an effigy of President Trump needs sectioning,along with Khan who allowed it ....... how bloody childish ?

or a medal :hehe:

[Kazanne]

https://www.mrctv.org/blog/abc-admits-media-peddled-fake-news-immigration-suggests-it-was-worth-it

The fake news about trump is disgusting imo,and so many people are so sucked in by it as he is a president like they have never seen, the jibes on FB and memes are just so way out there,there was even one person that said it was proof there was no God as Trump didn't have cancer !!!! I mean what sort of people write stuff like that ? They are far worse than him,stop believing everything you read, use your own judgment on the things he does and give him time.

[chuff me dizzy]

The fake news about trump is disgusting imo,and so many people are so sucked in by it as he is a president like they have never seen, the jibes on FB and memes are just so way out there,there was even one person that said it was proof there was no God as Trump didn't have cancer !!!! I mean what sort of people write stuff like that ? They are far worse than him,stop believing everything you read, use your own judgment on the things he does and give him time.

And these people claim President Trump is evil ? I would LOVE May to have his guts and to put the English 1st

[Brillopad]

His would be the 2nd one ,after Corbyn !

I’d love to see Khan’s face if he were asked to sanction one of himself being flown over London due to a protest over his inaction on more serious issues! Would he sanction it I wonder.? Bet not!

[Brillopad]

The fake news about trump is disgusting imo,and so many people are so sucked in by it as he is a president like they have never seen, the jibes on FB and memes are just so way out there,there was even one person that said it was proof there was no God as Trump didn't have cancer !!!! I mean what sort of people write stuff like that ? They are far worse than him,stop believing everything you read, use your own judgment on the things he does and give him time.

And they would most likely be the same people getting on their high horses about far-right groups - there is no difference!

[chuff me dizzy]

I’d love to see Khan’s face if he were asked to sanction one of himself being flown over London due to a protest over his inaction on more serious issues! Would he sanction it I wonder.? Bet not!

Would he chuff sanction it :joker:

[Twosugars]

or a medal :hehe:

:hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel tells it straight

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/984579/Farage-London-mayor-Sadiq-Khan-angry-baby-Trump-blimp-balloon-UK-visit-video?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation&spotim_referrer=recirculation

[Twosugars]

Nigel tells it straight

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/984579/Farage-London-mayor-Sadiq-Khan-angry-baby-Trump-blimp-balloon-UK-visit-video?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation&spotim_referrer=recirculation

:laugh: this is getting better and better
it terms of ruffled feathers and spluttering outrage the balloon has already paid for itself

[Crimson Dynamo]

:laugh: this is getting better and better
it terms of ruffled feathers and spluttering outrage the balloon has already paid for itself

if the aim was for people to mock and pity you then yes but for some reason I think it was meant the other way around

[chuff me dizzy]

:laugh: this is getting better and better
it terms of ruffled feathers and spluttering outrage the balloon has already paid for itself

All the balloon has done is make the Uk a laughing stock ,and made Khan look like a childish brat

[Twosugars]

just to say, this is a free country and one balloon won't or shouldn't reflect on the government who has nothing to do with it, besides Trump has seen it all in front of his properties in the US
get a sense of perspective, or failing that, carry on as before, just watch your blood pressure in this weather

ok, I will let you get angry in peace

[Brillopad]

The whinging Left - how you have to feel for them ! :laugh:

[Matthew.]

just to say, this is a free country and one balloon won't or shouldn't reflect on the government who has nothing to do with it, besides Trump has seen it all in front of his properties in the US
get a sense of perspective, or failing that, carry on as before, just watch your blood pressure in this weather

ok, I will let you get angry in peace

:clap2:

[Glenn.]

I think it’s hilarious

[Wizard.]

Someone shoot it down

[Underscore]

to put the English 1st

and this is why the Scots are so unhappy because of English centric Politics

[Kizzy]

There is currently crowdfunding that has £15k in the pot for a Kahn one... with the leftovers being used to launch some brexit balloons too.

'All extras go into a new project of flying a pro brexit balloon over London!'

The donald can't wait for us to leave Europe so he can slap those sanctions on.


https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/giant-sadiq-khan-baby-balloon-to-fly-over-london

[arista]

https://wm-pull-zone-jrgifofmw0p2vcg.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/babykhan.jpg

Yes Chuff
there is enough room for 2 .

[Underscore]

i love the trump balloon but what would be as good is a corbyn one because he is so pathetically useless as an opposition leader

[Beso]

Funny thing is, sadiqs more orange than trump.

[Underscore]

Funny thing is, sadiqs more orange than trump.

me on a saturday night teas

[Brillopad]

https://wm-pull-zone-jrgifofmw0p2vcg.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/babykhan.jpg

Yes Chuff
there is enough room for 2 .

:joker::joker::joker:

[Beso]

me on a saturday night teas

Urgh...the very thought.

:joker:

[Tom4784]

As long as it doesn't pose a health risk, I don't see the problem.

[Matthew.]

i love the trump balloon but what would be as good is a corbyn one because he is so pathetically useless as an opposition leader

i wonder if theresa may has a dartboard with a picture of jeremy corbyn’s face on it and vice versa

[Underscore]

Urgh...the very thought.

:joker:

:bawling::joker:

[Beso]

:bawling::joker:

:kiss:

[Kizzy]

How odd... the trump one was disrespectful but the Kahn one hilarious! :/

[Brillopad]

How odd... the trump one was disrespectful but the Kahn one hilarious! :/

It is hilarious when Khan was clearly keen to ridicule Trump. The point was being made that Khan was just as suitable a candidate for such ridicule! Thought that was obvious!

[Kizzy]

What has it to do with Kahn?... What law is being broken?

Freedom of expression remember..... Pffft all these snowflakes :/

[Crimson Dynamo]

What has it to do with Kahn?... What law is being broken?

Freedom of expression remember..... Pffft all these snowflakes :/

having good manners when a visitor calls is not PC

its manners

[Brillopad]

What has it to do with Kahn?... What law is being broken?

Freedom of expression remember..... Pffft all these snowflakes :/

I’m sure there are many who would be happy to protest that Khan isn’t doing enough to address knife crime from minorities in London and fly a caricature balloon of him over London - do you think he would sanction that? Would you think that was ok too I wonder!

[Kizzy]

having good manners when a visitor calls is not PC

its manners

He isn't flying the blimp though.... how is he responsible?
Do you want a nany state?...no freedom of thought or expression... how PC :idc:

[Brillopad]

He isn't flying the blimp though.... how is he responsible?
Do you want a nany state?...no freedom of thought or expression... how PC :idc:

Quite ironic though when the protestors are clearly objecting to both the democratic election of Trump and his policies not popular with them. They are clearly hoping that such PC demonstrations will instill fear into the powers that be to overturn a democratic vote to pander to the PC brigade as has occurred so many times before. They only support free speech when it suits.

[Kizzy]

Quite ironic though when the protestors are clearly objecting to both the democratic election of Trump and his policies not popular with them. They are clearly hoping that such PC demonstrations will instill fear into the powers that be to overturn a democratic vote to pander to the PC brigade as has occurred so many times before. They only support free speech when it suits.

That's a lot of assumptions there, still not sure how it's Kahns fault.

[Kizzy]

To begin with, officials in the London Mayor’s office were not super pumped about our application to fly an unflattering effigy of the US president over Parliament on 13th July, telling us that Trump Baby was “art” and inflatables did not qualify as legitimate protest. But there was nothing in the rules about not flying inflatables, and all our paperwork was in order. We began to wonder if this might not be an important test of the health and vitality of our democracy. So we started a petition to the Mayor to let Trump Baby fly – and the great British public did not disappoint. In under three weeks the petition has been signed by over 10,000 people, while our crowdfunder to cover the costs of the protest smashed its initial target in 48 hours, with money pouring in from every corner of Britain and beyond. Trump Baby seems to have captured the mood of the moment. It is therefore an honour and a privilege to be able to today confirm – Trump Baby will fly!

https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/05/flying-an-inflatable-trump-baby-over-parliament-is-by-far-the-best-way-to-protest-his-visit-7682018/

[chuff me dizzy]

having good manners when a visitor calls is not PC

its manners

Sadly missing in some folks minds my friend

[Kizzy]

Sadly missing in some folks minds my friend

Where are your manners chuff,look at your sig... Who are you to say what a labour supporter looks like? I never had you down as a hypocrite.

[chuff me dizzy]

Where are your manners chuff,look at your sig... Who are you to say what a labour supporter looks like? I never had you down as a hypocrite.

Maybe because Im not a hypocrite :shrug: Izzard CHOOSES to make a mockery of himself, he leaves himself open

[Nicky91]

Maybe because Im not a hypocrite :shrug: Izzard CHOOSES to make a mockery of himself, he leaves himself open

so true Chuff, Izzard makes a huge fool of himself

[chuff me dizzy]

so true Chuff, Izzard makes a huge fool of himself

And a bigger fool of the Labour party

[Crimson Dynamo]

so true Chuff, Izzard makes a huge fool of himself

spot on Ncikster

[chuff me dizzy]

spot on Ncikster

An utter mess !

[Kizzy]

Maybe because Im not a hypocrite :shrug: Izzard CHOOSES to make a mockery of himself, he leaves himself open

So he should pander to your perception of acceptability..
He should have the good manners to appear within the scope of a small minded perspective of what constitutes for you a Labour supporter?

[chuff me dizzy]

So he should pander to your perception of acceptability..
He should have the good manners to appear within the scope of a small minded perspective of what constitutes for you a Labour supporter?

He couldn't look any more stupid if he tried

[Kizzy]

Oof the PC stench in here is getting worse! Now the snowflakey are telling people what to say, what to fly in the sky, how to dress to support your chosen political party... it's a big ol bigotty mess!!

[Kizzy]

He couldn't look any more stupid if he tried

In your opinion, I don't happen to agree with Eddie on a lot of things he says... But I will defend him wearing what he likes when he says it!

[chuff me dizzy]

In your opinion, I don't happen to agree with Eddie on a lot of things he says... But I will defend him wearing what he likes when he says it!

Thats lovely for you :unsure: Im sure he's thrilled to bits knowing you are defending him :umm2:

[Nicky91]

Thats lovely for you :unsure: Im sure he's thrilled to bits knowing you are defending him :umm2:

i'll say this once okay, ''Make Labour Party Great Again'' in trump's words

[Northern Monkey]

Trump’s a tosspot,Khan’s a moron and a **** mayor and Izzard looks a twat imo.

:laugh:

On the blimp thing my opinion is..Just because we’re allowed to do something doesn’t mean we always should.Trying to upset the leader of our biggest allied nation is’nt the brightest move.I think Khan would have been more responsible to say ‘maybe it’s not the appropriate time or place as we don’t want to offend other nations leaders when they visit.It would be embarrassing to say the least’

I think people like Londons mayor actually want us to fail as a nation after Brexit just so they Khan say ‘told ya so,left is best ner ner’.

[Twosugars]

so true Chuff, Izzard makes a huge fool of himself
Nicky, Nicky :shrug:
Oof the PC stench in here is getting worse! Now the snowflakey are telling people what to say, what to fly in the sky, how to dress to support your chosen political party... it's a big ol bigotty mess!!
:joker::joker::joker:

[arista]

Trump is avoiding London

ITV1 London News

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh dear what is Khan going to do now

:hehe:

[chuff me dizzy]

oh dear what is Khan going to do now

:hehe:

Look a total twat ?

[Twosugars]

oh dear what is Khan going to do now

:hehe:

fly the balloon anyway :cheer2:

London rules :hehe:

[Twosugars]

London 1 : Trump 0

[Twosugars]

running scared of London, orange twat

[Kizzy]

Trump is avoiding London

ITV1 London News

Great that's London and Sheffield... wonder who's next? :laugh:

Hang on isn't he having tea with liz?.. They better not come to Leeds! :fist:

[chuff me dizzy]

The Sheffield joke was un-elected, he has no say in what happens in Sheffield AT ALL

[Twosugars]

Great that's London and Sheffield... wonder who's next? :laugh:

Hang on isn't he having tea with liz?.. They better not come to Leeds! :fist:

double whammy in London, let's not forget he's banned from the House of Commons and Westminster Hall by the Speaker

[Brillopad]

fly the balloon anyway :cheer2:

London rules :hehe:

With the increased violent crime in London you are welcome to it. :shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

"Magid Magid branded Donald Trump a 'wasteman' and said the US president was now banned from entering Sheffield when he visits the UK on a tour from July 13
The mayor of Sheffield said he was declaring the day as Mexico Solidarity Day
Magid Magid does not have the power to ban anyone from the city but was determined to make his feelings towards Mr Trump known in public "

Silly twat :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

With the increased violent crime in London you are welcome to it. :shrug:

Not for me, Im not keen on getting a knife between my shoulder blades or robbed by no marks on scooters

[Brillopad]

double whammy in London, let's not forget he's banned from the House of Commons and Westminster Hall by the Speaker

What is it you lot keep saying about free speech - but hark at the baying for blood mentality and glee at the prospect of banning someone with opinions you don’t support. All talk and no action. :shrug:

[Brillopad]

"Magid Magid branded Donald Trump a 'wasteman' and said the US president was now banned from entering Sheffield when he visits the UK on a tour from July 13
The mayor of Sheffield said he was declaring the day as Mexico Solidarity Day
Magid Magid does not have the power to ban anyone from the city but was determined to make his feelings towards Mr Trump known in public "

Silly twat :joker:

Never been to Sheffield - I doubt Trump will break his heart about it. though. :hee:

[chuff me dizzy]

Never been to Sheffield - I doubt Trump will break his heart about it. though. :hee:

About 20 miles from me, and you're not missing a thing :joker:

[Withano]

Good. LOVE me some freedom of speech. Don't know why all these right wing lunatics wants us to be all PC and stuff but they should stop being so snowflakey

[Brillopad]

Good. LOVE me some freedom of speech. Don't know why all these right wing lunatics wants us to be all PC and stuff but they should stop being so snowflakey

You’re kidding no-one. We all know who the real snowflakes are! Some freedom of speech that is - protesting against freedom of speech! :hee:

[Withano]

You’re kidding no-one. We all know who the real snowflakes are! Some freedom of speech that is - protesting against freedom of speech! :hee:

I posted that before reading the thread. Umm. You're literally protesting freedom of speech Brillo. Call me out as and when I do it, but you and a few others are doing it here... so.. stop being so pc (in this thread, right now)... (I mean, or carry on idc, it's been a pretty fun read).

[Brillopad]

I posted that before reading the thread. Umm. You're literally protesting freedom of speech Brillo. Call me out as and when I do it, but you and a few others are doing it here... so.. stop being so pc (in this thread, right now)... (I mean, or carry on idc, it's been a pretty fun read).

The PC Lefties have been the ones that started this attempted control of free speech. Anything else is reacting to that and giving them a dose of their own medicine. Trump has every right to come here but when they attempt to stop him with such pathetic tactics they demonstrate without doubt their opposition to free speech when it is at odds with their own views.

So they can protest against free speech in a democratic society all they like but it will achieve nothing but expose them as a bunch of foot stampers determined to get their way. They won’t of course. Apart from anything else most are sick to death of them now and they just undermine their cause even more.

I agree it has been a fun read in more ways than one! :laugh:

[Withano]

The PC Lefties have been the ones that started this attempted control of free speech. Anything else is reacting to that and giving them a dose of their own medicine. Trump has every right to come here but when they attempt to stop him with such pathetic tactics they demonstrate without doubt their opposition to free speech when it is at odds with their own views.

So they can protest against free speech in a democratic society all they like but it will achieve nothing but expose them as a bunch of foot stampers determined to get their way. They won’t of course. Apart from anything else most are sick to death of them now and they just undermine their cause even more.

I agree it has been a fun read in more ways than one! :laugh:

Makes no sense, but cba to explain why.

You've protested freedom of speech. It's made you look super pc and snowflakey. Your second paragraph literally describes you in this thread.

[Kizzy]

I don't get how opposing trump is opposing free speech?...

[Brillopad]

Makes no sense, but cba to explain why.

You've protested freedom of speech. It's made you look super pc and snowflakey. Your second paragraph literally describes you in this thread.

Try all you like to turn it on me. Everyone knows who started the attacks on free speech.

[Brillopad]

I don't get how opposing trump is opposing free speech?...

Not opposing Trump, that’s not the issue clearly. First they tried to stop him coming to Britain and when they failed they resorted to this nonsence. Not even a simple protest but one flying some insulting balloon like a gang of school bullies. If that is not an attempt to shut him down I don’t know what is.

[Beso]

Can we not have the british farmers institute put this balloon thing up in the air....maybe the police might draw baton for no apparant reason again.

[Kizzy]

Try all you like to turn it on me. Everyone knows who started the attacks on free speech.

Everyone knows who invented the made up buzzwords and instigated the propaganda.

Answer me this... why are they ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS proposals of good, progressive, positive or beneficial that these calls of PC and snowflake are used a a reaction to?

Think hard, I can't think of one, any positive reaction or suggestion would be virtue signalling, which is effectively speaking your mind in a fair, rational and unbiased manner.

So if being un pc is so great why does it only advocate things that are in a civilised society so damaging to so many already marginalised groups?

[Kizzy]

Not opposing Trump, that’s not the issue clearly. First they tried to stop him coming to Britain and when they failed they resorted to this nonsence. Not even a simple protest but one flying some insulting balloon like a gang of school bullies. If that is not an attempt to shut him down I don’t know what is.

It won't shut him down... he's a world leader isn't he?
In the grand scheme of things it's a balloon, they are a group of protesters who disagree with him/his policies.

They can't stop him doing or saying anything.... he may be a representation for some as the embodiment of regression, he's sexist and prejudiced and doesn't appear to enjoy the notion of the free world.

For people like me who have known nothing but the advancement of rights and protections in the west the thought of someone potentially removing or rewinding that is quite unnerving.

People like stability, trump is unpredictable we have no clue what he will do yet, not do other world leaders, you can feel that. With trump in charge things just do not feel very balanced right now.

I would say this blimp is a reaction to that.

[Brillopad]

Everyone knows who invented the made up buzzwords and instigated the propaganda.

Answer me this... why are they NEVER and I mean never anything good, progressive, positive or beneficial to anyone that these calls of PC and snowflake are used a a reaction to?

Think hard, I can't think of one, any positive reaction or suggestion would be virtue signalling, which is effectively speaking your mind in a fair, rational and unbiased manner.

So if being un pc is so great why does it only advocate things that are in a civilised society so damaging to so many already marginalised groups?

The buzzwords clearly came about as a reaction to PC attempting to dictate how we should all think and act on a number of subjects and shut down any and all debate. Then when they get their way they push some more and some more - not happy until they have got their way across the board. Try to control people and they tend to respond in an understandably negative way.

In a civilised society you don’t undermine the rights of one group to accommodate another. Tell me this if PC is so righteous why is there so much discord and opposition to it in every Western country. Calling them all racists and bigots is far too simplistic and just demonstrates not only an inability to listen to alternative views but a desire to simply shut them up and force them to tow the line. Doesn’t sound very civilised to me.

[Brillopad]

It won't shut him down... he's a world leader isn't he?
In the grand scheme of things it's a balloon, they are a group of protesters who disagree with him/his policies.

They can't stop him doing or saying anything.... he may be a representation for some as the embodiment of regression, he's sexist and prejudiced and doesn't appear to enjoy the notion of the free world.

For people like me who have known nothing but the advancement of rights and protections in the west the thought of someone potentially removing or rewinding that is quite unnerving.

People like stability, trump is unpredictable we have no clue what he will do yet, not do other world leaders, you can feel that. With trump in charge things just do not feel very balanced right now.

I would say this blimp is a reaction to that.

Well I guess we are all reacting in one way or another, but the flying of insulting balloons is rather anal in my view.

[Maru]

I'm not at all bothered. It's freedom of speech and it is much more likely to effect the political atmosphere there than here... would just be another headline in a never-ending news cycle for us. Anyway, Trump eats this stuff up and it only emboldens him... remember the lesson: Do Not Feed The Troll from your Welcome to The Internet pamplet... I feel like it should be in the school curriculum next to a caption with a picture of Trump grinning in front of his float. Oh well, parenting ftw.

[Kizzy]

The buzzwords clearly came about as a reaction to PC attempting to dictate how we should all think and act on a number of subjects and shut down any and all debate. Then when they get their way they push some more and some more - not happy until they have got their way across the board. Try to control people and they tend to respond in an understandably negative way.

In a civilised society you don’t undermine the rights of one group to accommodate another. Tell me this if PC is so righteous why is there so much discord and opposition to it in every Western country. Calling them all racists and bigots is far too simplistic and just demonstrates not only an inability to listen to alternative views but a desire to simply shut them up and force them to tow the line. Doesn’t sound very civilised to me.

OR.... to limit, debase and mock any rational discussion with one word or phrase.... negating any meaningful discussion or debate.

Everyone is capable of forming an opinion, who are the 'they'? if you are standing in my shoes you are 'they'... it's just someone who has a difference of opinion to you.

I wouldn't say however that what you consider PC is that powerful, when you consider that much of the mainstream media and the govt are currently quite anti PC, so in all seriousness how can they be calling all the shots?

By the same token as the racist and bigot accusation the snowflake and virtue signaler label is counter to that isn't it's no better and no worse....

However, to be accused of bigotry you have to have suggested something that marginalises, degrades or debases someone or group... to be accused of virtue signalling, well to me that kind of just means you made a comment that wasn't derogatory and was possibly helpful or informative in some way.
I fail to see how it is seen or construed as a negative?

There is so much discord atm because there is a widening gap between left thinkers and right thinkers, and some countries are lurching further and further right, Poland, Hungary, Italy, ..and I think sadly us too. It creating a gulf within Europe and here too.

I think we are in danger of losing our civility as our rights and protections are eroded, that is how I see this country going sadly, and as we enter brexit I don't trust this govt to respect those rights and protections.

That's why divisive politics are worrying as the saying goes 'divide and conquer' this is a time when the UK needs to be united and we are more diametrically opposed than ever! To everyone... the rest of the EU, the Scots, the poor, refugees literally everyone :/

The one thing that unites us at the moment is the NHS, it's like a religion in itself, a shining light of good that we can all relate to and be proud of.
There is literally nothing else.

[Kizzy]

Well I guess we are all reacting in one way or another, but the flying of insulting balloons is rather anal in my view.

Haha! Maybe but as I said I think it's just a visual metaphor if trump was just a little more statesmanlike and less reactionary ... there wouldn't be this objection to him.