The Man United Car Crash but rise like a Phoenix and then fade season 2018/19 thread

[Crimson Dynamo]

bdihLJRRENQ


:omgno:

Liverpool have bought well and Manu look unlikely to make top 6 at this rate

[Denver]

And we beat Man City a few days back

[Cherie]

friendlies pfft

[Black Dagger]

It was a friendly hun.

[Cherie]

friendlies pfft

It was a friendly hun.

Not you being as tedious and predictable as moi :oh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

It was a friendly hun.

i watched the game, it was no friendly

[Cherie]

i watched the game, it was no friendly

:joker:

[Black Dagger]

Not you being as tedious and predictable as moi :oh:

:smug:

[Denver]

Sanchez on 500k a week was left in the pocket of a boy on 400 pound a week

[Alf]

Not quite 22 nil, is it?

[Denver]

Liverpool are winning the league

[Alf]

Liverpool are winning the leagueYour fans have been saying that for over a quarter of a century.

[Denver]

Your fans have been saying that for over a quarter of a century.

We had the best transfer window and have sorted out our main issue we upgraded our midfield and brought a player who can fit anywhere across the front and middle 3

[Alf]

We had the best transfer window and have sorted out our main issue we upgraded our midfield and brought a player who can fit anywhere across the front and middle 3You've said all that before too.

[Denver]

We are buying the best player while Everton overspend on mediocre

[Ramsay]

You've said all that before too.

:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not quite 22 nil, is it?

:joker:

[Denver]

We got to a champions league final on a weak squad so we can exceed this year

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Shaq will be in my fantasy team for sure

[Denver]

The Shaq will be in my fantasy team for sure

Shrek a shaking???

[Crimson Dynamo]

If I was a Man U fan I would not be looking forward to this season

[Crimson Dynamo]

I may put a bet on Everton finishing above them

[Denver]

People saying it is only pre season when pre season is a big part of the season

[Denver]

I may put a bet on Everton finishing above them

Man u 18th
Everton 17th??

[Crimson Dynamo]

People saying it is only pre season when pre season is a big part of the season

Did you hear Mourinio's rant after the game slagging off half his team?

he was miserable last season and he is worse now and its not even started.

[Denver]

Did you hear Mourinio's rant after the game slagging off half his team?

he was miserable last season and he is worse now and its not even started.

He was so disrespectful to the kids saying they will never play for him again

Yet he spends almost 60 million on a bang average players from the Ukrainian league

[Black Dagger]

People saying it is only pre season when pre season is a big part of the season

No it isn't lol.

[Nicky91]

it was just a friendly match, but fab result for Liverpool anyway, and Man U needs to work harder for the season if they want to be top 5 honestly

[Denver]

No it isn't lol.

So it is not important to bed new players or youth players in to the team and style of play?

[Nicky91]

well our team PSV have beaten spanish team Valencia, who are a regular 5th/6th place at the spanish la liga which is also a quite good achievement, even if it is a friendly match, so yeah i agree with Adam, friendly matches are important to begin your season

[bots]

Man city are a much better team than liverpool. Also, both city and united have much greater depth in their squads than liverpool. If liverpool's new keeper gets injured for example, they are back to a ball fumbler.

[Denver]

Man city are a much better team than liverpool. Also, both city and united have much greater depth in their squads than liverpool. If liverpool's new keeper gets injured for example, they are back to a ball fumbler.

We have beat Man City 5 times in a row

[Shaun]

Meanwhile Mesut is gearing up for his takeover of the German national team by single-handedly guiding our team of impossible-to-spell wonders to a record 55 assists this season, starting off by thumping PSG 5-1 yesterday. Hear there were plenty of Paris fans begging for Emery to come back.

[Cherie]

Jose looked a bit demented in his after match press conference

[Denver]

Also we ha e a very strong squad

[Brother Leon]

Pre Season. That’s cute.

United and City players actually went far in the World Cup and are on a beach somewhere or partying in LA at the moment.

[AnnieK]

Lol.....pre season games mean very little when your squad is not at full strength. I don't doubt that if Liverpool play like they did towards the end of last year they will have a great season. City will be tough again and United will have to play well. Jose is a showman.....his post match interviews are hilarious. I know his driver and he said the man you see is not the man he knows....all show

[Nicky91]

i think top 5 could be like

1. Liverpool
2. Man City
3. Man Utd
4. Chelsea
5. Everton

[bots]

We have beat Man City 5 times in a row

and remind me which 2 teams from Manchester still finished higher than them in the league last season

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think United will come 8th or 9th

[bots]

united will be top 3

[Black Dagger]

We have beat Man City 5 times in a row

And have nothing to actually show for it. Cute.

[Cherie]

Lol.....pre season games mean very little when your squad is not at full strength. I don't doubt that if Liverpool play like they did towards the end of last year they will have a great season. City will be tough again and United will have to play well. Jose is a showman.....his post match interviews are hilarious. I know his driver and he said the man you see is not the man he knows....all show

He plays to the gallery, and they lap it up

[Shaun]

I think United will come 8th or 9th

I'd say:

1/2 - City/Chelsea
3 - Liverpool
4/5 - Spurs/Arsenal
6 - United
7/8 - West Ham/Everton

With the gaps between all pairings a lot closer than they were last season.

Not sure why, just get the impression Mourinho's completely lost it lately and bar Pogba they just don't have....that good a squad. Sanchez has gone AWOL since last September, everyone seems to be played out of position, or wants to leave :shrug: and no big-names linked with them atm it seems. Don't get me wrong, it wouldn't be a shock to see them top 3 again, it's just... there seems to be dissension in the ranks.

[Denver]

Liverpool have 1 more.piece of the puzzle incoming

[Crimson Dynamo]

Spurs win win nothing. Dreadful loser club. Arsenal to me look strong

[Brother Leon]

We have beat Man City 5 times in a row

And Klopp hasn’t beat United in the league yet...

Your point?

[Calderyon]

Man City or Chelsea will win imo.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Man City or Chelsea will win imo.

Chelsea?

:laugh2:

[Denver]

And Klopp hasn’t beat United in the league yet...

Your point?

Hard to beat a team playing with 12 defenders

[Denver]

Chelsea are about to have their team torn apart and hardly anybody wants to join them

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2018/07/29/TELEMMGLPICT000170535170_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqp FlyLIwiB6NTmJwWrZH31a4o5h1NNLGBYI6WI.jpeg?imwidth= 1000

A difficult pre-season is threatening to lurch into a farce for Manchester United as manager Jose Mourinho heads into their final game in the USA against European champions Real Madrid without as many as 17 senior players.

United head for the humidity and tropical storms of Miami with dark clouds hovering over them and a manager whose mood flicks between exasperated and foreboding.

Mourinho has been on a damage limitation exercise for several days, claiming after a heavy 4-1 defeat to Liverpool in Michigan that they are merely trying to prevent “ugly results” because of how weak the teams he can put out have become.

Already deprived of more than half of his first choice starting XI because of their World Cup commitments, injuries have now decimated his squad and Mourinho is worried as we move towards the start of the serious business of a new domestic campaign.

It is difficult not to feel some sympathy for the Portuguese, who was already concerned about the lack of preparation time, so to lose players like Antonio Valencia and Nemanja Matic to injuries that will sideline them for several weeks has been a disaster.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2018/07/29/TELEMMGLPICT000170092153_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqBIhf9vY 3F0gQVGEB0QvnDrT66NV8g2lVAfd6KpRAarU.jpeg?imwidth= 1000



United look in disarray less than two weeks before the start of the Premier League campaign, with Mourinho also painting a gloomy picture of their recruitment process, a source of tension that will not be easy to resolve given there are only 11 days left in this transfer window and Leicester City are determined not to sell their top transfer target, centre-back Harry Maguire.

Although international players like Paul Pogba, Romelu Lukaku and David De Gea will be available for their first game against Leicester on August 10th, they will not have played a game for three weeks and may well not have trained properly either.

"I just hope the boys on deserved holidays, they take care of themselves a little bit,” Mourinho said after the second-half collapse against Liverpool. “And somebody wants to do what [Marcus] Rashford and [Phil] Jones do, which is to be back a little bit earlier to try and help the team, because, for the beginning of the season we are going to be in trouble."

Mourinho has to be careful. The short term need for players to return to training early has to balance with the need to ensure they are recharged and rested after the World Cup. He cannot put too much pressure on, particularly as he admitted last week that if you rush players back after an intense international tournament, they can suffer burn out later in the season.

Eric Bailly and Ander Herrera are the latest to cause concern, after they played almost the full 90 minutes in both games against AC Milan and Liverpool.

Mourinho has praised their commitment and dedication, revealing Bailly had asked to play on Sunday when Chris Smalling started limping in the warm up because he wanted to protect United’s young players. Neither are likely to start against Madrid, with another friendly to come next week back in Europe against Bayern Munich.

“I don't think he's a leader,” Mourinho said when revealing Bailly’s ankle is badly swollen. “I don't think anything goes to change with that. I think he's a team boy, a great boy, and an honest man, honest to put everything for the team. That is why we still have him and why he is going to stay with us because football teams need people like him and Herrera, these kind of players where the club is more important than anything else.”

For all of the concerns about Mourinho’s state of mind, there are also signs of a siege mentality being built, the sort of environment he has thrived in before. Sources have told Telegraph Sport that he is bullish behind the scenes, keen to fuel perceptions that everyone and everything is conspiring against United.

At least some of United’s youngsters have enjoyed the tour. With so many senior players missing, the likes of Andre Gomes, Tahith Chong, Demetri Mitchell and James Garner have got some precious game time in a first team environment.

It has also benefited versatile defender Timothy Fosu-Mensah, who has returned to Old Trafford from a loan spell with Crystal Palace. The thought of playing Real Madrid excites rather than scares him.

“It has been good,” he said, when asked about the tour. “We've played against quality opponents. We tried to train how we want to play so I think it has been really good for us.

“Last year I was at Crystal Palace. I think I improved there and I've come back a better player. I came back to show that I've improved and to show that I'm a better player now. I'll keep working hard and see what happens.

“I don't know when a decision will be made about my future here. I'm here on the tour and I'm focused on my training sessions and on the games. The next game is Real Madrid and we have to focus on that now.

“It's very nice to play against a good club, against good players. Some of the best in the world. It's good to have that test.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/29/manchester-united-tour-turns-farce-ahead-real-madrid-test/

[Cherie]

Loving all the negative stories, you will be smiling on the other side of your face when Man U smash West 'am for the umpteenth time :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Loving all the negative stories, you will be smiling on the other side of your face when Man U smash West 'am for the umpteenth time :hehe:

Man ure are in chaos

unhappy team

unhappy manager

team of crocks

no decent signings


tailspin

[bots]

So everything is going exactly to plan then. Nothing to see here, they will still finish top 3. Feel free to quote me on this :shrug:

[Nicky91]

Man ure are in chaos

unhappy team

unhappy manager

team of crocks

no decent signings


tailspin

:notimpressed: we will see during the season


and maybe they will get a decent signing now, transfer market is still open

[Cherie]

Man ure are in chaos

unhappy team

unhappy manager

team of crocks

no decent signings


tailspin

Fake news

[Mystic Mock]

I think United will come 8th or 9th

:joker:

I think that Man Utd will be in the top 3 with Man City and Tottenham again. Liverpool is just hype from the Media because they've spent a lot of money.

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker:

I think that Man Utd will be in the top 3 with Man City and Tottenham again. Liverpool is just hype from the Media because they've spent a lot of money.

Spurs?

:laugh2:

with Loser capt Kane at the helm?

they will win F all AGAIN and finish 7th

[Mystic Mock]

Spurs?

:laugh2:

with Loser capt Kane at the helm?

they will win F all AGAIN and finish 7th

I never said that Tottenham will win, but their team is a lot stronger than 7th place.:joker:

They'll definitely beat Arsenal (no offence to the Arsenal fans on here) and they can actually defend unlike Liverpool so I see them beating them, the only loose cannon that I could see stopping Tottenham from being in the top 3 is Chelsea as them and Man City have been alternating the Premier League's lately.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i think Arsenal will be strong this season and will beat Spurs home and away

[Cherie]

i think Arsenal will be strong this season and will beat Spurs home and away

and everyone will be West 'am


Poor Manuel

[Denver]

Liverpool's defence is so much better with VVD now we have one of the best keepers in the world

[Crimson Dynamo]

and everyone will be West 'am


Poor Manuel

The man who looks like a Roman Emperor on the side of a Roman Coin will turn us into a top 4 Behemoth

[Crimson Dynamo]

Liverpool's defence is so much better with VVD now we have one of the best keepers in the world

this is why mourinio is sweating because he knows he has no chance and will lose home and away to Liverpool

the fans know this too

[Denver]

Isn't this Mourinhos 3rd season?? He always toes into meltdown in his 3rd season and finishes low down the table

[Crimson Dynamo]

Isn't this Mourinhos 3rd season?? He always toes into meltdown in his 3rd season and finishes low down the table

its started already


:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

im not putting manu players in my fantasy team that is for sure

[Nicky91]

its started already


:joker:

nah Mourinho is usually a over the top showman, so his rants don't mean anything honestly


i still have faith that the real top team from Manchester will be doing well in the season

[Denver]

its started already


:joker:

He is already pissing off people above him.

I guess he is useless without a woman to bully

[Nicky91]

inbe4 Liverpool gets demolished by Man U in the premier league, which i genuinely hope now, given the amount of hate towards Man U in this thread

[Denver]

With what?? They have a terrible front 3

1 they paid 80 million to score nothing and the other is a 60 million flop

[Cherie]

The man who looks like a Roman Emperor on the side of a Roman Coin will turn us into a top 4 Behemoth

I do like Manuel P tbf, he is a good manager I think you guys will do well

[Denver]

Wolves will be top 8

[Nicky91]

With what?? They have a terrible front 3

1 they paid 80 million to score nothing and the other is a 60 million flop

most of the starting 11 players were still on holiday, at the time of this friendly vs Liverpool ;)


but then again in your eyes Liverpool is already the premier league champions with their worldclass signing Alisson :hehe:

[Denver]

most of the starting 11 players were still on holiday, at the time of this friendly vs Liverpool ;)


but then again in your eyes Liverpool is already the premier league champions with their worldclass signing Alisson :hehe:

And Liverpool didn't have players on holiday???

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jose first to pack his bags?

Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho is the new favourite to be the first Premier League manager to leave his post this season.

The Portuguese has been cut from 14/1 into 7/1 clear favourite to be the first to lose his job, with a flurry of bets now making him most likely of the top flight bosses to go first according to oddschecker.

He’s overtaken Leicester City boss Claude Puel and Watford manager Javi Gracia, who were installed as the early candidates.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2018/7/30/226775e6-e2b4-4153-a0db-5fbe8d9373ee.jpg

[Nicky91]

And Liverpool didn't have players on holiday???

oh ok so Liverpool with their best players could've won with 20-0 then :facepalm:

[Nicky91]

Jose first to pack his bags?

Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho is the new favourite to be the first Premier League manager to leave his post this season.

The Portuguese has been cut from 14/1 into 7/1 clear favourite to be the first to lose his job, with a flurry of bets now making him most likely of the top flight bosses to go first according to oddschecker.

He’s overtaken Leicester City boss Claude Puel and Watford manager Javi Gracia, who were installed as the early candidates.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2018/7/30/226775e6-e2b4-4153-a0db-5fbe8d9373ee.jpg

nope he won't leave, fake news :facepalm:


i'm guessing the arsenal manager to be booted first :fan:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Rogyrog: Have to agree with posts about United and Mourinho whether from United fans or not. Negative in every respect - transfers (policy and business), tactics and above all press conferences - constantly undermine players to shift any blame from himself.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/45003592

[Nicky91]

:facepalm: shame on this thread LT

https://media.giphy.com/media/Ob7p7lDT99cd2/giphy.gif

[Crimson Dynamo]

:facepalm: shame on this thread LT

https://media.giphy.com/media/Ob7p7lDT99cd2/giphy.gif

i see you are supporting man u now


that will please all the man u fans on the forum


:smug:

[Nicky91]

i see you are supporting man u now


that will please all the man u fans on the forum


:smug:

now, i was already liking them, but now i just show more support for them, thanks to this shameful thread of hate :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

now, i was already liking them, but now i just show more support for them, thanks to this shameful thread of hate :hehe:

yes you certainly sound like a man u fan

for sure

[Nicky91]

we don't need superstar footballers in our team anyway, they are only massive ego's

[Crimson Dynamo]

we don't need superstar footballers in our team anyway, they are only massive ego's
heaven forbid you should have any massive egos at man u


:laugh2:

[Mystic Mock]

Liverpool's defence is so much better with VVD now we have one of the best keepers in the world

I'm not doubting that Klopp has been making an effort to improve in that area, but if VVD or Allison get injured who is the replacement gonna be? You're a great attacking side, probably the best in the league in that area, but I'm still not convinced that there's enough depth defensively.

[AnnieK]

now, i was already liking them, but now i just show more support for them, thanks to this shameful thread of hate :hehe:

Nicky, pay no notice to LT.

You are a fairly new Utd fan it would seem. Every supporter of every other team hate Utd, laughable really. Usually born from jealousy. Utd are a club steeped in history, they've been good, bad and frankly outstanding. A bit of bad mouthing from other fans is all water off a ducks back. Try living in Manchester and having to listen to the dirty blues (sorry Lucas :love:). :laugh:

Honestly, let LT do his trolling and don't sweat it. This season will be what it will be.....we will still be one of the biggest clubs in the world

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nicky, pay no notice to LT.

You are a fairly new Utd fan it would seem. Every supporter of every other team hate Utd, laughable really. Usually born from jealousy. Utd are a club steeped in history, they've been good, bad and frankly outstanding. A bit of bad mouthing from other fans is all water off a ducks back. Try living in Manchester and having to listen to the dirty blues (sorry Lucas :love:). :laugh:

Honestly, let LT do his trolling and don't sweat it. This season will be what it will be.....we will still be one of the biggest clubs in the world

Incorrect

A Study out this week found that Chelsea are the most hated team, man u were second (they could not even win that) . Disgracefully West Ham were 4th which shows you that online trolls must have targetted them as they are a family club who play great football and people love west ham countrywide


Chelsea - 68.7%
Man Utd - 68.1%
Liverpool - 52.8%
West Ham - 47.6%
Arsenal - 46.2%
Tottenham - 43.5%
Man City - 38.7%
Cardiff - 36.5%
Crystal Palace - 29.7%
Everton - 27.0%
Watford - 24.0%
Newcastle - 23.5%
Wolves - 20.1%
Leicester - 18.9%
Southampton - 16.3%
Brighton - 16.2%
Fulham - 15.0%
Burnley - 13.3%
Bournemouth - 10.2%
Huddersfield - 9.7%

http://www.sportbible.com/football/news-reactions-chelsea-voted-the-most-hated-club-in-the-premier-league-20180728

[AnnieK]

Im not incorrect though, I never said we were the most hated.....just hated. Am surprised West Ham were that high too, didn't think they would be relevant enough to figure on most people's radars. :idc:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Im not incorrect though, I never said we were the most hated.....just hated. Am surprised West Ham were that high too, didn't think they would be relevant enough to figure on most people's radars. :idc:

Its probably because when we go to places like Manchester we batter their mobs before lunch

:think:

[bots]

Incorrect

A Study out this week found that Chelsea are the most hated team, man u were second (they could not even win that) . Disgracefully West Ham were 4th which shows you that online trolls must have targetted them as they are a family club who play great football and people love west ham countrywide


Chelsea - 68.7%
Man Utd - 68.1%
Liverpool - 52.8%
West Ham - 47.6%
Arsenal - 46.2%
Tottenham - 43.5%
Man City - 38.7%
Cardiff - 36.5%
Crystal Palace - 29.7%
Everton - 27.0%
Watford - 24.0%
Newcastle - 23.5%
Wolves - 20.1%
Leicester - 18.9%
Southampton - 16.3%
Brighton - 16.2%
Fulham - 15.0%
Burnley - 13.3%
Bournemouth - 10.2%
Huddersfield - 9.7%

http://www.sportbible.com/football/news-reactions-chelsea-voted-the-most-hated-club-in-the-premier-league-20180728

the fact that west ham are owned by a couple of porn gangsters may have something to do with the hate and funnily enough, chelsea are owned by a gangster too :idc:

[AnnieK]

Its probably because when we go to places like Manchester we batter their mobs before lunch

:think:

Yobs

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yobs

:nono:


Annie I did not have you down for a bitter red

:shocked:

[AnnieK]

:nono:


Annie I did not have you down for a bitter red

:shocked:

Do you what though LT, I'm really not. If we play rubbish I will admit it, if City or god forbid Liverpool play well I can admit it. WHAT I am though is a Manchester United supporter, I support the club and think that we get a harder time than any other club (as evidenced by this thread). I don't get why other fans waste so much time and energy bashing another club who have been without doubt one of the most successful clubs.in history......unless it is driven by jealousy.

So as I said to Nicky, its water off a ducks back, nothing you say will be new so carry on bashing.....I'm not bitter, just Red

[Nicky91]

Do you what though LT, I'm really not. If we play rubbish I will admit it, if City or god forbid Liverpool play well I can admit it. WHAT I am though is a Manchester United supporter, I support the club and think that we get a harder time than any other club (as evidenced by this thread). I don't get why other fans waste so much time and energy bashing another club who have been without doubt one of the most successful clubs.in history......unless it is driven by jealousy.

So as I said to Nicky, its water off a ducks back, nothing you say will be new so carry on bashing.....I'm not bitter, just Red

so true :clap1:


Manchester United is and Always has been one of the most successful clubs in history


and yes i'm not a fake reds fan, i just show more support to them now, but i've Always liked watching their matches :love:


Eric Cantona, David Beckham, our Edwin Van der Sar & Ruud Van Nistelrooy

and not to forget George Best, Sir Bobby Charlton, legends :flutter:

[Cherie]

Jose playing the media like a fine fiddle :hee:

[Black Dagger]

Or he's genuinely lost the plot x

[Crimson Dynamo]

How seeds of Jose Mourinho petulance were sewn 12 months ago over Man Utd's reluctance to spend extra £5m

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2018/07/30/TELEMMGLPICT000170529014_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqajCpFXs ei0OXjDFGPZkcdJUTtcoYFCnG3Cbpi3Xzp3c.jpeg?imwidth= 700




In an effort to understand Jose Mourinho’s increasingly agitated state this summer, it is actually necessary to go back 12 months when the seeds for the Manchester United manager’s angst over the club’s approach to transfers were first sown.

Despite watching United beat Chelsea to Romelu Lukaku, and take Nemanja Matic from his old club, Mourinho never quite got over United’s unwillingness to pay an extra £5 million to secure the services of Croatia winger Ivan Perisic from Inter Milan.

Even with Perisic, Mourinho felt United would struggle to challenge the eventual champions Manchester City but, without him, the Portuguese believed his team lacked the balance and quality delivery they really needed out wide.

Alexis Sanchez arrived instead in January but, seven months later, as another transfer window prepares to close, Mourinho is again ruing what he doesn’t have rather than what he does and letting anyone who cares to listen know just how unhappy he is about it all, regardless of what that does to morale and relationships.

read more: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/31/seeds-jose-mourinho-petulance-sewn-12-months-ago-man-utds-reluctance/

[Nicky91]

Perisic :flutter:

[Brother Leon]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/957904962847113216/GzCzzGhc_400x400.jpg

Even when we’ve been **** for years(for the usual standard anyway), the obsession remains.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i am not making up the slew of articles about this car crash start to the season

the press have this story in their teeth now so dont expect to sweep it under the carpet


ITS REAL

[Cherie]

i am not making up the slew of articles about this car crash start to the season

the press have this story in their teeth now so dont expect to sweep it under the carpet


ITS REAL

Wenger leaving left a gaping hole to be filled

[bots]

i am not making up the slew of articles about this car crash start to the season

the press have this story in their teeth now so dont expect to sweep it under the carpet


ITS REAL

Does it matter if its real or not? Teams are judged on their performance throughout the season. If Man U are crap, the manager will get the boot and then the story goes on.

In my humble opinion, Kloppy and his team will be under much greater pressure with all the spending and raising of expectations. Bear in mind that his new signings have no experience in the premier league and many have been disasters before them.

[Vladimir]

Not a fan of MU but they beat Real Madrid 2-1 last night.

[Cherie]

Not a fan of MU but they beat Real Madrid 2-1 last night.

:fan:

[bots]

of course given that MU won, it will be because of the lower strength opposition and it being a pre-season match of no consequence (which it is) :laugh:

[Nicky91]

winning against real madrid surely makes up for that disastrous loss against liverpool i guess

:love:

anyhow friendly or not, it is mentally a good win

[Denver]

Scumbag team have fined a player 180k for going to the birth of his child :umm2:

[Nicky91]

Scumbag team have fined a player 180k for going to the birth of his child :umm2:

then he should leave asap, Martial i never liked him anyway, go to some random Ligue 1 team pls :wavey:

[Black Dagger]

then he should leave asap, Martial i never liked him anyway, go to some random Ligue 1 team pls :wavey:

Erm...

[Cherie]

Scumbag team have fined a player 180k for going to the birth of his child :umm2:

and here is the correct version, he should have been fined double for calling his son Swan :skull:


ANTHONY MARTIAL will be hit with disciplinary action by Manchester United after going AWOL following the birth of his son Swan.

[Nicky91]

and here is the correct version, he should have been fined double for calling his son Swan :skull:


ANTHONY MARTIAL will be hit with disciplinary action by Manchester United after going AWOL following the birth of his son Swan.

:joker: :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Manchester United star Paul Pogba is intent on joining Barcelona - and Mino Raiola has agreed personal terms with the Spanish giants.


https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/secondary/Zinedine-Zidane-1463576.jpg?r=1534427799835


https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1004189/Man-Utd-news-Pogba-Barcelona-terms-agreed-Guardiola-Man-City-Zidane-rumours-gossip-news


could this be the final nail in the coffin?

[Nicky91]

they should just force Pogba to stay at all costs :fist:

[Crimson Dynamo]

they should just force Pogba to stay at all costs :fist:

Pogba is bigger and more important than Mourinio so they cant

[Cherie]

Meh let him go, he didn't play for United last year, if he isn't willing, give someone else a chance to play regularly

[bots]

Pogba can't agree terms with a new club unless Man U have decided to sell him, and if they do you can guarantee it will be for a profit.

Pogba didn't merit his transfer fee last year, he made little contribution over the season and united still finished second so I don't see it as an issue. It will also provide some funding possibilities ready for the new managers inevitable arrival. Mourinho will be gone soon enough

[Crimson Dynamo]

Pogba can't agree terms with a new club unless Man U have decided to sell him, and if they do you can guarantee it will be for a profit.

Pogba didn't merit his transfer fee last year, he made little contribution over the season and united still finished second so I don't see it as an issue. It will also provide some funding possibilities ready for the new managers inevitable arrival. Mourinho will be gone soon enough

I think Big Sam would be a good fit

[Crimson Dynamo]

:fan:

Brighton make it 2

[Crimson Dynamo]

the last time manu won by 5 clear goals was 2010

since then Man City have done so

21 times


:skull:

[Cherie]

Looks like Jose is a goner

[Cherie]

the last time manu won by 5 clear goals was 2010

since then Man City have done so

21 times


:skull:

They have a long wa6 to go to match United in the trophy dept

[AnnieK]

They have a long wa6 to go to match United in the trophy dept

:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lee Sharp has said today that Jose will be sacked by Chrimbo

[empire]

what jose needs is a coach who can drill into them players the utd way, he should pick roy keane for that job, let's be honest, utd need him to give them players the hair dryer treatment, because with out it, that club will win nothing, the players seem too soft and there lazy and the attitude from them players stink, if a 50 year old alex ferguson was at the dugout at brighton, there is no way that he would let them players, get away with that performance, he would hang each player up on the changing room peg, some of them players are on 70,80,100 even 200 grand a week, and they take a hissy fit because mourinho tells them some home truths about what they are doing wrong on the pitch, todays game has really gone to the dogs, players think the big wages make them believe that they know it better than the manager, there's an old say in football, the minute you know everything about this game is the minute you go down hill, that's what them players are heading too if they don't wise up and start trying to play there hearts out.

[Denver]

:fan:

[Cherie]

:oh:

[Ramsay]

Haahahah

[GiRTh]

:joker::joker::joker:

[Black Dagger]

Can you win a game pls. Don't want Jose sacked. He's too much fun.

[Cherie]

Can you win a game pls. Don't want Jose sacked. He's too much fun.

Where were you when Wolves held you on Sat :fan:

[Denver]

Liverpool is winning the league

[Black Dagger]

Where were you when Wolves held you on Sat :fan:

I was at the pictures with my boyfriend x

[GiRTh]

LMAO at the press conference.

"Three titles for me two for the other nineteen managers " :joker:

#Respect

1034194710426836992Wenger won three, didnt he? Dont remember much respect from Jose to Arsene. Out by bonfire night.

[Alf]

You don't win trophies in August. Long way to go yet.

[Mystic Mock]

Man Utd have looked lifeless out there the last couple of games.

We all know that they have quality players (players that I wouldn't turn down for my team) but the players do have a bad attitude imo, and so does the Manager, there's a level of arrogance there that was not there under Sir Alex Ferguson. This current Man Utd team underestimate teams and are then in shock when they lose, and the players and Mourinho clearly don't get along which isn't helping the cause.

I hope that Man Utd sort themselves out as they are an iconic team not just for the Premier League but for the Sport in general.

[bots]

i thought they played some good football :shrug:

Sure, things need to be tightened up, but I dont see it as a major issue yet. It could be in a few weeks of course, but the media like a good story and they need a new one after getting shot of Wenger last year.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Imagine losing/getting a right royal humping from the Lillywhites at home

:fan:

[Nicky91]

oh well at least they lost against a team in form now like Spurs :shrug:

[AnnieK]

They actually played well in parts last night. I think the problem lies in the back room to be honest. They will come back......not worrying (yet lol)

[Crimson Dynamo]

They need Big Sam in to steady the ship and get the confidence back

[Nicky91]

They need Big Sam in to steady the ship and get the confidence back

no we need Jaap Stam as manager, and with Big Sam as his experienced assistent manager :love:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jose has told POGBA (in front of players) he will NEVER Captain Man U again


:skull:


Source: Talksport

[Tarryn]

Jose has told POGBA (in front of players) he will NEVER Captain Man U again


:skull:


Source: Talksport

I'd take this with a huge pinch of salt. Jose will probably have Pogba as Captain again just to piss the press off. Already last night Ian Wright was slagging off Sanchez (not bitter is he ?!).
ABU press having a field day lately.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'd take this with a huge pinch of salt. Jose will probably have Pogba as Captain again just to piss the press off. Already last night Ian Wright was slagging off Sanchez (not bitter is he ?!).
ABU press having a field day lately.

Sanchez is a money grabbing disgrace. Wrighty was bang-on

[Tarryn]

Sanchez is a money grabbing disgrace. Wrighty was bang-on

I'm not defending Sanchez, he has been piss poor since we signed him. But the thing that really kills me is that we have a really good set of players that are being held back by a negative misery in Mourinho.
Get rid now. We have not progressed since last season, in fact we have gone backwards.
I used to love going Old Trafford, now I dread it. Even when we win there is nothing to enjoy. Jose needs to go before even more damage is done.

[Crimson Dynamo]

In the programme for tonight's game he says "we cant afford to play at even 95% if teams are coming here playing to 101%"

He is digging out his players AGAIN :shocked:

[Tarryn]

In the programme for tonight's game he says "we cant afford to play at even 95% if teams are coming here playing to 101%"

He is digging out his players AGAIN :shocked:

This is one of our biggest problems. Under Sir Alex teams used to fear us but under Mourinho they know they can take us. He is just SO NEGATIVE. I just can't take him any more. He has made us a laughing stock. Why would any top class player want to play for us any more ?. Many teams now can compete with wage demands & deliver trophies. I just can't see any positives under Jose. I want him gone.

[Vladimir]

I feel a bit sorry for them after last night's mess :skull:

[bots]

Can't see Mourinho lasting much longer, i would think a month tops. If last nights game was a blip it could have been forgiven, but it's not, it's another symptom of the discontent in the dressing room.

[Crimson Dynamo]

this mess started pre-season and the boil needs to be lanced

[Livia]

What a result for Frankie Lampard, though. The boy did good.

[Crimson Dynamo]

he did and we will twist the knife one final time on Sat


COYI


:dance2:

[Cherie]

he did and we will twist the knife one final time on Sat


COYI


:dance2:

very doubtful :hehe:

[Tarryn]

Always sad to see us lose but if this get's Jose out quicker then so be it.
None of these players look like they can be bothered playing for him.
Just take your huge pay-off & go Jose :fist:

[Denver]

Lol

[Crimson Dynamo]

very doubtful :hehe:

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4JyOrGkMIwwGFvOg/giphy.gif

[bots]

this is just not good enough

[bots]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4JyOrGkMIwwGFvOg/giphy.gif

is that Ron Jeremy playing for united?

[MTVN]

Ironssss

[AnnieK]

Jose needs to go...now

[Tarryn]

If Jose does not go in the nest 24 hours then he is staying until at least Christmas. Having him as our manager for the Champions League is just soul destroying. Even Moyes was better than this :bawling:

[Denver]

Give him a lifelong contract

[Tarryn]

Give him a lifelong contract

Let me know when Looserpool actually win something....................

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://78.media.tumblr.com/5f809c710c7f189c0273b005fc7bd1bd/tumblr_mx7r5pqvUy1r5wynfo1_r1_400.gif

[Denver]

Let me know when Looserpool actually win something....................

The same Looserpool who are sat at the top of the table 8 points ahead of the scum?

[Tarryn]

The same Looserpool who are sat at the top of the table 8 points ahead of the scum?

Classy (!). Yet you still have not won anything. FACT...............

[Denver]

Classy (!). Yet you still have not won anything. FACT...............

We have won more trophies than United.

We are the most successful British team in European competition for a reason

[Vladimir]

I thought I'd enjoy United's downfall more but this is just sad. :hehe:

[Tarryn]

We have won more trophies than United.

We are the most successful British team in European competition for a reason

You are going back years. I have nephews in their twenties who have never seen Looserpool win a Premier League title.
We have won 13 you have won ZERO. Nice try though (!)

[Denver]

You are going back years. I have nephews in their twenties who have never seen Looserpool win a Premier League title.
We have won 13 you have won ZERO. Nice try though (!)

what happens when you was paying the refs to cheat.

Liverpool winning in the season United fans realise they are a mid table team will be so satisfying

[bots]

Jose has to go

[Crimson Dynamo]

West Ham are a better team so its no drama that man u lost, i dont think they will be relegated but i think they should aim to get that 40 points under their belt just in case

[Nicky91]

West Ham are a better team so its no drama that man u lost, i dont think they will be relegated but i think they should aim to get that 40 points under their belt just in case

never say never, we dutchies also not thought FC Twente would relegate last season :laugh3: and they did relegate

[thisisdanny]

Let me know when Looserpool actually win something....................

I can only assume you're attempting to say loser rather than looser?

[Nicky91]

oh well i am only saying no arrogance pls Liverpool fans, karma can be a bitch so be careful, i also don't want bad things to happen to Liverpool, i like both Liverpool and Manchester United

it's Manchester City who i'm not a fan of at all

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh well i am only saying no arrogance pls Liverpool fans, karma can be a bitch so be careful, i also don't want bad things to happen to Liverpool, i like both Liverpool and Manchester United

it's Manchester City who i'm not a fan of at all


What kind of Black Dagger shade :shocked:

[Black Dagger]

Got Sergio Aguero playing for my club. Like I care what somebody who has more opinion changes than hot dinners thinks about them.

[Nicky91]

What kind of Black Dagger shade :shocked:

wut :o

no, i just don't like Man City, who just buy loads of players but never give youth a chance, similar reason why i dislike real madrid :fist:

[Denver]

wut :o

no, i just don't like Man City, who just buy loads of players but never give youth a chance, similar reason why i dislike real madrid :fist:

Isn't that Chelsea though?? They have like 70 players out on loan

[Zizu]

Isn't that Chelsea though?? They have like 70 players out on loan



Correct


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[Nicky91]

Isn't that Chelsea though?? They have like 70 players out on loan

so does Man City, to our dutch team NAC Breda to be more precise, who are in trouble now, their technical manager smulders got sacked because of bad results due to his poor transfer management :joker:

Chelsea usually loans players to Vitesse, who have russian manager Slutsky now in charge of the team, who doesn't do that bad with them, he coached Hull City in premier league one time

[Tarryn]

I can only assume you're attempting to say loser rather than looser?

It's always been the way us Man U fans have described them for years. It's on all the main forums.
They have always called us scum.

[thisisdanny]

It's always been the way us Man U fans have described them for years. It's on all the main forums.
They have always called us scum.

You describe them as being loose? What makes them so easily detached?

[bots]

i think he will be gone by end of Monday

[Tarryn]

i think he will be gone by end of Monday
I'm not so sure. I can easily see us keeping him until Christmas. We waited to sack both Moyes & LVG.

[Cherie]

LT finally predicting sonething right :omgno: and yes it is car crash :joker:

[Cherie]

Let me know when Looserpool actually win something....................

Drag him :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Looks like Zidane in this week

[Cherie]

Looks like Zidane in this week

mmmm

[Nicky91]

we can also have a Fenerbahce Car Crash season thread new manager, and former PSV manager Phillip Cocu flopped there :joker::joker::joker:

Fenerbahce never did as bad as now in the turkish competition, i am expecting him to get sacked any moment now :hehe:

[Black Dagger]

Nobody cares for them.

[Nicky91]

Nobody cares for them.

maybe Cocu can now move to manchester united then :laugh3:

[Tarryn]

Looks like Zidane in this week

Do you really think this ?. I'm hoping you are right but I can't honestly see the board getting rid right now.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Do you really think this ?. I'm hoping you are right but I can't honestly see the board getting rid right now.

Talksport are pushing that story and seem to have some inside info

[bots]

Do you really think this ?. I'm hoping you are right but I can't honestly see the board getting rid right now.

the board cant let the team sit near the bottom of the league and thats where they are heading. If they wait till Christmas the Chief exec is toast too.

They have great players that are not allowed to play in a way that comes naturally to them on the pitch. It's no wonder they don't play as they should, and thats down to the manager. These were not players that were bought to play schoolboy tactics, they were bought because they were already brilliant at what they do naturally

[Nicky91]

it isn't the manager's fault, the problem is with the lack of good players

manager Always get the blame when ur losing :notimpressed: i don't think Zidane can do any better than Mourinho, not with these players

[AnnieK]

it isn't the manager's fault, the problem is with the lack of good players

manager Always get the blame when ur losing :notimpressed: i don't think Zidane can do any better than Mourinho, not with these players

Don't agree, the defensive way Mourinho plays is just not the United way. We attack - we let in goals but we go after more. The players are being stifled, he bad mouths and blames them and then wonders why they have no passion

[Crimson Dynamo]

it isn't the manager's fault, the problem is with the lack of good players

manager Always get the blame when ur losing :notimpressed: i don't think Zidane can do any better than Mourinho, not with these players

what players are bad?

[Nicky91]

Don't agree, the defensive way Mourinho plays is just not the United way. We attack - we let in goals but we go after more. The players are being stifled, he bad mouths and blames them and then wonders why they have no passion

that's just Mourinho's style, and excuse me but the ones who hired him knew his sort of coaching style


i blame that person then :think: technical manager who is that now at United


i would have Zidane as manager then, and probably Solskjaer as assistant manager, and hiring Patrick Kluivert as new technical manager

[Cherie]

the players have downed tools, but that is as a result of Jose's managerial style, he can't help himself as it has happened at two clubs before this so there is a pattern, I think he gets bored easily and needs to move on and this is his get out clause

[Zizu]

Don't worry Zidane will soon sort them all out


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[Zizu]

it isn't the manager's fault, the problem is with the lack of good players

manager Always get the blame when ur losing :notimpressed: i don't think Zidane can do any better than Mourinho, not with these players



Really ??

Only the CB area is suspect .. should be Bailly plus one other decent CB


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[Zizu]

what players are bad?



Jones / Smalling / Lindehateverhescalled just aren't good enough - never have been


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[Tarryn]

the players have downed tools, but that is as a result of Jose's managerial style, he can't help himself as it has happened at two clubs before this so there is a pattern, I think he gets bored easily and needs to move on and this is his get out clause

100% agree. This is what happened with Jose at Chelsea. The players clearly want him out. He seems quite bitter about the past. He wants to pick a fight with everybody. The team spirit is not there.

[Tarryn]

the board cant let the team sit near the bottom of the league and thats where they are heading. If they wait till Christmas the Chief exec is toast too.

They have great players that are not allowed to play in a way that comes naturally to them on the pitch. It's no wonder they don't play as they should, and thats down to the manager. These were not players that were bought to play schoolboy tactics, they were bought because they were already brilliant at what they do naturally

I truly believe if Alexis, Rashford, Pogba & Lukaku were playing near their best we could challenge for the top titles but Jose seems more interested in picking a fight than winning now :fist:

[Tarryn]

Talksport are pushing that story and seem to have some inside info

I gave up listening to Talksport the moment they gave Micky Quinn airtime :nono:

[bots]

As there is a CL game tomorrow night, he wont get the boot till after that.

[Tarryn]

As there is a CL game tomorrow night, he wont get the boot till after that.

Press conference was deeply depressing. It seems even we lose tomorrow he won't get the push :fist:

[Crimson Dynamo]

What frustrates me about all this is the utter LIES everyone tells

just come out a fecking say WHAT THE FECKING PROBLEM IS ITS NOT A FECKING SECRET YOU UTTER TWATS

so the press conference is LIES LIES LIES

what is the point??

why does everyone pretend they are something they are not, like they are in control, like there is no problem, like the players dont like the manager etc etc etc

its so exhausting the pathetic childish games they play

[bots]

What frustrates me about all this is the utter LIES everyone tells

just come out a fecking say WHAT THE FECKING PROBLEM IS ITS NOT A FECKING SECRET YOU UTTER TWATS

so the press conference is LIES LIES LIES

what is the point??

why does everyone pretend they are something they are not, like they are in control, like there is no problem, like the players dont like the manager etc etc etc

its so exhausting the pathetic childish games they play

do you really expect him to say "i'm an arse hole and the root of the problem" ? :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

do you really expect him to say "i'm an arse hole and the root of the problem" ? :joker:

just say the truth

"look i have lost the dressing room and i am leaving, i personally think the players are cnts for downing tools"

[Zizu]

Zidane will sort things out soon enough


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[bots]

Manchester United captain Antonio Valencia has apologised for liking an Instagram post which called for manager Jose Mourinho to be sacked. :skull:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45730077

[Crimson Dynamo]

Manchester United captain Antonio Valencia has apologised for liking an Instagram post which called for manager Jose Mourinho to be sacked. :skull:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45730077

:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Newcastle only 2 up after 11 minutes

:worry:


RAFA OUT

[bots]

Newcastle only 2 up after 11 minutes

:worry:


RAFA OUT

Jose has to go, simple

[AnnieK]

Good god, this is shocking

#joseout

[bots]

i fully expect pogba to be in goal for the 2nd half with de gea in attack

[Crimson Dynamo]

a substitute after 15 minutes


:laugh2:

[Black Dagger]

DON'T GO JO.

[Tarryn]

If this is what it takes to kick Jose out then so be it. It's so clear the players have zero desire to play for him.

[Denver]

Give him a lifetime contract

[AnnieK]

2-2 the fight back is ON

[bots]

3-2 ... job saved? :laugh:

[Zizu]

3-2 ... job saved? :laugh:



Supposedly the decision was made yesterday ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

it should have been 6-1 yesterday

man u were truly awful

[Crimson Dynamo]

and there you go

[Shaun]

Either poch leaves and spurs fold, or united hire someone crap and fold even more. Win win.

[Denver]

Is it it Blanc United want? A terrible appointment but you for us

[The Slim Reaper]

Spare a thought for Alf today, can't be easy when your parent club is going though tough times.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They are in safe hands with Carrick

https://media.giphy.com/media/xLisUdNosHv9K/giphy.gif

[AnnieK]

Hope they bring Roy Keane in as interim

[Cherie]

Hope they bring Roy Keane in as interim

Noooooooooo he is a useless manager

[AnnieK]

Noooooooooo he is a useless manager

He'll scare them into playing well again and is a Red so actually cares about the club

[Crimson Dynamo]

He'll scare them into playing well again and is a Red so actually cares about the club

babies like POgba need to be told how amazing they are, they dont react well to old school managers

he needs someone like Poch

[Crimson Dynamo]

One player said the atmosphere was the worst they had seen in 20 years of football

just reported now on Talksport

90% of players thought he was toxic (Jose)

[AnnieK]

Another win for Ole

[Nicky91]

Another win for Ole

:clap1: :clap1:

[AnnieK]

8 from 8 for us now.

20LEGEND

[Denver]

It won't last

[Denver]

Wait till you face a genuine threat

[AnnieK]

That's getting boring now.....
Tottenham.....beat em
Arsenal.....beat em
Bring on the rest...

[Denver]

A weak Tottenham
A weak Arsenal

PSG are gonna Give you a waling in 2 weeks

[Crimson Dynamo]

The baby faced assassin must be the best interim manager eva

[AnnieK]

Maybe they will, maybe they wont and you know what Adam, in a way I dont care. I'm a United fan, we have had the worst start to any season but the we've turned it round. Win or lose, I'm a United fan and will support the club. It gets boring when (mainly) City and Liverpool fans (and I think you are.Liverpool iirc) just repeat the same bollocks constantly. 8 in 8 for a new manager is bloody good going.....I don't really care about the rest, Utd have their passion back, thats good enough for me, for now.

[AnnieK]

The baby faced assassin must be the best interim manager eva

Amen to that :love: (and the cutest)

[Mystic Mock]

Wait till you face a genuine threat

We're getting promoted this season.:hehe:

[bots]

What's important to me is that United are now playing the type of football I like to watch. Win or lose, that's my priority. I had stopped watching them because the type of football they played was 100% boring, un-entertaining crap.