Jacob Reese Mogg’s children targeted by vile left wing protesters

[Northern Monkey]

MOGG VS THE MOB Jacob Rees-Mogg’s children targeted by left-wing ‘class-war’ protesters shouting ‘your daddy’s a horrible person’ outside their home



The police helped protect the MP and his family after they were ambushed outside their London home – but the Tory backbencher mocked them as ‘disorganised, unpunctual and short-lived’

Video in link

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7239436/jacob-rees-moggs-children-targeted-by-vile-left-wing-protest-as-class-war-activists-shout-your-daddys-a-horrible-person/

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes I saw this, vile

[Cherie]

I miss Brillo, this would be 20 pages by now :sad: no one wants to argue with Monkey ...this is a pretty low thing to do

[Firewire]

His kids look like the Von Trapps in those outfits

[bots]

Can't stand Mogg but no-one should be targeting kids

[Rob!]

I don’t really see what ‘left wing’ has to do with it.

[Mitchell]

Yeah this ain’t on, it’s not their fault their dad is a massive dickhead

[Beso]

Nazis.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Unsuccessful people will always be jealous of high achievers I guess

I'm sure the children are more than intelligent enough to see where the mob insults come from

[Withano]

‘Vile left wing protestors’ = one 80 year old bloke asking Mogg’s nanny how much she gets paid and implying its probably not much?

Monsters!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Omg iv just read that it was Class War far left plonkers :joker:

You could not make it up. I bet Jacob was quaking with them jobless loonies going for him

[Niamh.]

I miss Brillo, this would be 20 pages by now :sad: no one wants to argue with Monkey ...this is a pretty low thing to do

To not argue with NM? :shocked:

[Oliver_W]

Wait, Brillo was permabanned? What did she do?

[jaxie]

It doesn't matter whether they 'only' asked the nanny what her pay was (why was it their business?) or worse. The bottom line is that they should not have been anywhere near his children or their carer. It doesn't matter who is right or wrong, or right or left. Harrassing, shouting at, talking to, someone's children because of the parents politics is completely unacceptable.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wait, Brillo was permabanned? What did she do?

No she asked to be perma'd

[Livia]

Ahhh if only I could build a time and space machine and send "anarchist" Ian Bone back to the long hard days of the Soviet Union where he belongs.

"... the Tory backbencher mocked the stunt as “disorganised, unpunctual and short-lived”..." LOL...Rees-Mogg is too classy for them.

[Livia]

‘Vile left wing protestors’ = one 80 year old bloke asking Mogg’s nanny how much she gets paid and implying its probably not much?

Monsters!

So you think it's acceptable?

[arista]

Yes I saw this, vile


Well done Jacob
on Eddie Mear LBC radio
he said he ignores them.

[Northern Monkey]

I miss Brillo, this would be 20 pages by now :sad: no one wants to argue with Monkey ...this is a pretty low thing to do

Bastards,Why no one argue with me? :fist:

I actually have better things to do than argue with a bunch of crazed Big Brother fans on the internet.I got plenty of real life people to argue with.I’d rather just light the fuse and watch the fireworks :laugh:

[arista]

Wait, Brillo was permabanned? What did she do?


thats sad

[JoshBB]

Pretty much a stupid thing to do, but what they're saying isn't wrong tbh :shrug:

[user104658]

No she asked to be perma'd

Well that's certainly one interpretation of the story.

[user104658]

I love that one old bloke in a flat cap is now "a mob" :joker:

[Withano]

So you think it's acceptable?

Maybe it wasnt clear, i was mocking the thread title. Do you think its a good or accurate thread title?

[Cherie]

To not argue with NM? :shocked:

No it’s low to involve the kids :laugh:

[Cherie]

Bastards,Why no one argue with me? :fist:

I actually have better things to do than argue with a bunch of crazed Big Brother fans on the internet.I got plenty of real life people to argue with.I’d rather just light the fuse and watch the fireworks :laugh:

:laugh:

[smudgie]

Loved the way the little boy gave his nanny a cuddle.

[MTVN]

There are a lot of people like this on the hard left that are so dogmatic that everyone they disagree with is an 'enemy', in the end they basically become bullies

[jaxie]

I love that one old bloke in a flat cap is now "a mob" :joker:

Well there was the guy in Reese Mogg fancy dress and the woman with the pink hair. And no way of knowing who else was off camera. :shrug:

[Tom4784]

There are a lot of people like this on the hard left that are so dogmatic that everyone they disagree with is an 'enemy', in the end they basically become bullies

The same can be said for either side's more extreme elements. Both are as bad as each other but this whole story is basically just an attempt to paint in broad strokes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I love how the MSM call these crazies "activists" and not far left extremists

[Withano]

Let’s be real though. It’s the Sun. They need anti-left articles because it’s the easiest way to get money from their target audience.

The closest they got this week is a frail old man asking how much Moggs nanny earns, but they tricked their readers into thinking it’s something a lot worse with a clickbaity title. It’s a shame that this is how we live now.

[Cherie]

Let’s be real though. It’s the Sun. They need anti-left articles because it’s the easiest way to get money from their target audience.

The closest they got this week is a frail old man asking how much Moggs nanny earns, but they tricked their readers into thinking it’s something a lot worse with a clickbaity title. It’s a shame that this is how we live now.

Doesn't really matter what his age is or his fragility, he shouldn't be targetting a Nanny and young kids

[kirklancaster]

:laugh::laugh::laugh: LMFAO.

Whinging, whining, flat-cap ignoramus 'Rag an Bone' lost the plot AND was hoisted on his own petard.

After spectacularly FAILING to intimidate the Rees-Mogg children with his leftie propaganda, and 'rattle' the ice-cool Rees Mogg himself, he then tries to 'appeal' directly to the nanny: 'Surely SHE will support me Guv - after all, she's 'downtrodden' working class like moi'.

She was having NONE of his twisted tosh and pulled the rug from under his feet by declaring how happy she is in her job and by defending Rees-Mogg.

She patently enjoys her work and has such a bond with the Rees-Mogg family that she has been in her post for 50 years, and the Rees-Mogg children so obviously love her and regard her as 'one of the family.

Rag and Bone is yet just another pathetic and deluded 'Rabble Without A Cause' leftie CLOWN.

Totally laughable.

[Withano]

Doesn't really matter what his age is or his fragility, he shouldn't be targetting a Nanny and young kids

Perhaps not. But its barely news without the clickbaity title is it.

One unpleasant man discussing Moggs’ nanny wage wouldnt have got a tenth of the ad revenue

VILE LEFT MOB TARGETTING CHILDREN sure as **** does though

Its just a bit sad imo

Im not defending the bloke, the story isnt interesting to me. Im discussing the title - i find that far more interesting.

[MTVN]

Well they are left wing protesters and they did target his children so I'd say the title is pretty accurate. It's been a pretty big news story across all outlets and even a lot of Labour MPs have been speaking out to denounce it

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If it's just dismissed as 'barely news' then this sort of thing is normalised as though politicians should just expect to be harassed with their children every time they step out their front door. Its intimidation and it puts off a lot of people from being involved in politics

[jaxie]

Let’s be real though. It’s the Sun. They need anti-left articles because it’s the easiest way to get money from their target audience.

The closest they got this week is a frail old man asking how much Moggs nanny earns, but they tricked their readers into thinking it’s something a lot worse with a clickbaity title. It’s a shame that this is how we live now.

Well you aren't being very real. For a start you are promoting he idea it's one frail old man and the sun. The frail old man is a good decade younger than you claim and others present are also named in several reports.

As to it just being the sun. Try these.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/12/jacob-rees-mogg-and-his-family-harassed-by-activists

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/rees-mogg-brexit-jacob-children-protesters-video-nanny-ian-bone-class-war-a8534341.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/09/12/labour-mps-attack-left-wing-activists-told-jacob-rees-moggs/

[user104658]

Well they are left wing protesters and they did target his children so I'd say the title is pretty accurate. It's been a pretty big news story across all outlets and even a lot of Labour MPs have been speaking out to denounce it

It clearly isn't, ONE guy brought his kids into it, and it was described as "a mob" targetting the kids. Now, you could say that a mob was present, and that ONE protester targetted the children, but to suggest that an entire mob of people brought the kids into it is fake news. Deliberate fake news. AKA propaganda :idc:.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I am surprised that some members are unaware of how the media has been operating since the invention of the printing press!

One would even suggest that its nothing more than an attempt to avoid the issue altogether?

:think:

[jaxie]

It clearly isn't, ONE guy brought his kids into it, and it was described as "a mob" targetting the kids. Now, you could say that a mob was present, and that ONE protester targetted the children, but to suggest that an entire mob of people brought the kids into it is fake news. Deliberate fake news. AKA propaganda :idc:.

Were you there for the whole incident/conversation? A transcript would be good.

[user104658]

Were you there for the whole incident/conversation? A transcript would be good.

There's literally a video in the first post, Jaxie.

[jaxie]

There's literally a video in the first post, Jaxie.

And how do you know if the clip shows the whole incident or a small clip of it?

[MTVN]

It clearly isn't, ONE guy brought his kids into it, and it was described as "a mob" targetting the kids. Now, you could say that a mob was present, and that ONE protester targetted the children, but to suggest that an entire mob of people brought the kids into it is fake news. Deliberate fake news. AKA propaganda :idc:.

I was referring to the thread title which doesn't use the word 'mob'. No one here has used that term either really so not sure why that's become the main talking point. Even the Sun story is obviously just using it for effect with the Mogg/Mob alliteration. That's what journalists do.

[user104658]

And how do you know if the clip shows the whole incident or a small clip of it?

Well maybe Rees-Mogg spat at the old man whilst is children repeatedly punched him in the balls. Maybe a giant, talking seagull - ancient guardian of the Rees-Mogg family - appeared just after the video ended, squawking and slapping its glorious wings, and declared that the whole mob must disperse or feel the wrath of the ancients.

I can't believe you don't care about OAP's being assaulted by giant feathered mythical beasts, Jaxi, just because it was after the cameras stopped.

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The evidence that is available is that ONE person (NOT a mob) brought his children into it. Those are the facts. Then calling that "a mob" is at best guesswork, and at worst, deliberate misrepresentation.

[Vicky.]

Yeah we can only comment on what we can see, no point in speculating about what happened next :laugh: That guy was a complete dick though, you just don't target kids

[Crimson Dynamo]

he has been on benefits since he left univ apparently

[user104658]

I was referring to the thread title which doesn't use the word 'mob'. No one here has used that term either really so not sure why that's become the main talking point.

The thread title specifically states "protesters", plural.

Even the Sun story is obviously just using it for effect with the Mogg/Mob alliteration.

This is naive.

The story is deliberately misrepresentative in order to nullify the complaints of the larger group by focussing on the actions of one individual and apply those to the entire group. It's a common press tactic so, really, it's one that people should make an effort to be able to see through if they actually want to understand what's going on, and not what they're being fed.

[jaxie]

Well maybe Rees-Mogg spat at the old man whilst is children repeatedly punched him in the balls. Maybe a giant, talking seagull - ancient guardian of the Rees-Mogg family - appeared just after the video ended, squawking and slapping its glorious wings, and declared that the whole mob must disperse or feel the wrath of the ancients.

I can't believe you don't care about OAP's being assaulted by giant feathered mythical beasts, Jaxi, just because it was after the cameras stopped.

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The evidence that is available is that ONE person (NOT a mob) brought his children into it. Those are the facts. Then calling that "a mob" is at best guesswork, and at worst, deliberate misrepresentation.

Spin away.

Apparently there is a four minute video on the protest groups Facebook page.

[MTVN]

The thread title specifically states "protesters", plural.



This is naive.

The story is deliberately misrepresentative in order to nullify the complaints of the larger group by focussing on the actions of one individual and apply those to the entire group. It's a common press tactic so, really, it's one that people should make an effort to be able to see through if they actually want to understand what's going on, and not what they're being fed.

Well the plural is accurate - this was a protest organised by the group 'Class War', there were at least four people there carrying a large banner and they were pretty pleased with it as well.

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[user104658]

Well the plural is accurate - this was a protest organised by the group 'Class War', there were at least four people there carrying a large banner and they were pretty pleased with it as well.

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"Jacob Reese Mogg’s children targeted by vile left wing protesters"

It is accurate that protesters (plural) were present. It is accurate that ONE protester targetted Rees-Mogg's children.

The thread title states that protesters (plural) targetted Rees-Mogg's children. That is not accurate. It's misrepresentative. There's no argument that it isn't... there's a video... which if anything shows that multiple protesters did NOT target the children, it appears to show the entire section start to finish from the point where the kids were mentioned, to the point where they were taken away, during which one protester started hounding the kids. Which, yes, is wrong. But the attempt to nullify the point of the protest by tarring every protester there as targetting kids is disingenuous and (in my opinion) probably deliberate, or at least full of subconscious bias.

[MTVN]

"Jacob Reese Mogg’s children targeted by vile left wing protesters"

It is accurate that protesters (plural) were present. It is accurate that ONE protester targetted Rees-Mogg's children.

The thread title states that protesters (plural) targetted Rees-Mogg's children. That is not accurate. It's misrepresentative. There's no argument that it isn't... there's a video... which if anything shows that multiple protesters did NOT target the children, it appears to show the entire section start to finish from the point where the kids were mentioned, to the point where they were taken away, during which one protester started hounding the kids. Which, yes, is wrong. But the attempt to nullify the point of the protest by tarring every protester there as targetting kids is disingenuous and (in my opinion) probably deliberate, or at least full of subconscious bias.

Well now I think that's naive about this protest and its intentions. It was deliberately arranged outside his home, it was held in the morning when they probably knew they would catch him leaving along with his kids who need to go to school, you see them smiling and holding the banner as Mogg is there with his children, the group is boasting on Twitter about how pleased they are with their actions but you're suggesting its only one guy who was there to target his family? And that the other protesters will have been appalled by his actions and wanted no part in it? Hmmm

[user104658]

Spin away.

Apparently there is a four minute video on the protest groups Facebook page.

Thanks Jaxie, I found it and watched it, it does show the entire encounter from when Rees-Mogg arrives up to when they enter the house.

It is just one man (the older man in the flat cap) who addresses the children, as I assumed, but it's good to have concrete video evidence confirming that.

So not a mob but one person, confirmed.

[user104658]

Well now I think that's naive about this protest and its intentions.

I haven't made any claims about the intent of the protest :think:

It was deliberately arranged outside his home, it was held in the morning when they probably knew they would catch him leaving along with his kids who need to go to school, you see them smiling and holding the banner as Mogg is there with his children

Purely speculative, stop dressing up assumptions as facts.

the group is boasting on Twitter about how pleased they are with their actions but you're suggesting its only one guy who was there to target his family?

I'm stating that only one guy did target the children specifically, as there is a video, that shows that only one guy targetted the children specifically

And that the other protesters will have been appalled by his actions and wanted no part in it? Hmmm

I haven't made that claim either. Again, you need to draw a line between the facts, and things that are sprouting in your own imagination.

It doesn't seem that they were appalled, or that the larger FB group is appalled either. From a brief look, the entire group is pretty toxic.

But that's not the point. I don't support the group or their actions or similar ham-fisted actions. That's not the point either.

The point is that the press is misrepresentative of the facts and evidence and - for me - that is a huge problem. People just cherrypicking their own facts to fit their own preconceived internal narrative. LT's observation that "it happens all the time and has always happened" doesn't make it any less of a problem, either.

[MTVN]

I know it's speculation hence using 'probably', I'm entitled to make logical assumptions though

Anyway my point is that the very nature of the protest was an attenpt to invade Moggs personal life which is what this group do. Hence the other protesters are culpable in the targeting of his children

In any case I think you are getting too hung up on semantics. Whether someone chooses to use a plural or a singular is not a 'huge' issue in my eyes nor is a journalistic use of the word 'mob' for effect

[user104658]

I know it's speculation hence using 'probably', I'm entitled to make logical assumptions though

Anyway my point is that the very nature of the protest was an attenpt to invade Moggs personal life which is what this group do. Hence the other protesters are culpable in the targeting of his children

In any case I think you are getting too hung up on semantics. Whether someone chooses to use a plural or a singular is not a 'huge' issue in my eyes nor is a journalistic use of the word 'mob' for effect

It's not a huge issue to state that some children were hounded by a large group / a mob when they were actually hounded by one irritating old man? I wouldn't call it semantics, I'd call it a fairly important distinction in the reporting of what actually happened.

[MTVN]

It's not a huge issue to state that some children were hounded by a large group / a mob when they were actually hounded by one irritating old man? I wouldn't call it semantics, I'd call it a fairly important distinction in the reporting of what actually happened.

Not really when the video is there for all to see and as long the story does go on to detail what actually happened then I can forgive a bit of journalistic flair in the headline.

[bots]

It's not a huge issue to state that some children were hounded by a large group / a mob when they were actually hounded by one irritating old man? I wouldn't call it semantics, I'd call it a fairly important distinction in the reporting of what actually happened.

A mob can be defined as more than 1 person, and the mob doesnt all have to be actively vocal to still constitute being a mob. It is a group sharing the same intent

[jaxie]

A mob can be defined as more than 1 person, and the mob doesnt all have to be actively vocal to still constitute being a mob. It is a group sharing the same intent

Yeah I was going to add this.

Just because one person does most of the talking doesn't mean the rest of the group, some dressed up to mock Reese Mogg, aren't intimidating for the children. It was a group of people at his home, and not one person. In my view that is enough t say they were targeting his family.

Some reports say the group were cat calling that their dad was a bad person and people hate him. One clip I saw had a guy in a white shirt approaching two of the children behind the scenes, while the older man was having a rant, not clear what he was up to.

Even a group of people standing in total silence on your doorstep could be pretty intimidating.

The bottom line for me is none of them should have been outside his home. It's inappropriate. If you want to rage at him go do it outside Parliament.

Maybe TS would be happy to face that with his kids, I wouldn't. :shrug:

[kirklancaster]

It is reminiscent of the Looney left gang of imbeciles who intimidated Nigel Farage and his family whilst they were out for a Sunday family lunch - jumping on his car and jeering and ranting.

****ing jealous moronic bullies who want to tear down whatever they perceive as personally unachievable.

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[arista]

It is reminiscent of the Looney left gang of imbeciles who intimidated Nigel Farage and his family whilst they were out for a Sunday family lunch - jumping on his car and jeering and ranting.

****ing jealous moronic bullies who want to tear down whatever they perceive as personally unachievable.

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Yes Even the Labour Party hate that bad group

[Cherie]

Yeah I was going to add this.

Just because one person does most of the talking doesn't mean the rest of the group, some dressed up to mock Reese Mogg, aren't intimidating for the children. It was a group of people at his home, and not one person. In my view that is enough t say they were targeting his family.

Some reports say the group were cat calling that their dad was a bad person and people hate him. One clip I saw had a guy in a white shirt approaching two of the children behind the scenes, while the older man was having a rant, not clear what he was up to.

Even a group of people standing in total silence on your doorstep could be pretty intimidating.

Thse bottom line for me is none of them should have been outside his home. It's inappropriate. If you want to rage at him go do it outside Parliament.

Maybe TS would be happy to face that with his kids, I wouldn't. :shrug:

That is the nub of it for me, go to Westminster and harrass him at his place of work

[user104658]

A mob can be defined as more than 1 person, and the mob doesnt all have to be actively vocal to still constitute being a mob. It is a group sharing the same intent

Sure. But as only one person directed anything at the kids, neither you, I, nor anyone else have any idea if the shared group intent was specifically to harass the kids. It's speculation. It'll continue to be speculation no matter how many people insist blue in the face that it isn't.

You might even think it's very LIKELY that they all shared the intent to target the kids; that would be a fair enough assessment too. But it still isn't a fact, and the statement that Rees-Mogg's kids were "targetted by a mob of protesters" is still patently false.

Making distinctions with this sort of bull**** is important. Being factually accurate, is important. When people don't bother, or add "flair", all it does is open up the whole thing to interpretation and bickering. The intent is to bolster a point; but all it ever does is weaken it.

[user104658]

Whether or not they should have been at his home is a completely separate issue. I actually agree that politician's families should be left out of these things and it's unfair to drag them into it.

If someone was to tell me that a protest mob formed outside his home, I would agree that that's morally wrong.

If they were to add, "An obnoxious old man who was part of a protest targetted the kids"; I would say that that's even worse and WAY over the line, and that he should be ashamed of himself.


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It's still not true that there's any evidence of multiple people specifically targetting the kids, so this is still false and misleading reporting that does no one any good. What happened is bad. Let it be bad for what it is. There's been an attempt to fluff it up and make it seem even worse than it was, and that's just left behind a confusing and misleading mess that actually dilutes the seriousness of it? You hear "They were ATTACKED BY A MOB OF PROTESTERS!!" and think "Oh Jesus, how awful". The mental image is quite horrifying... then you click the link and it's Del Boy's 80 year old cousin bleating "Your daddy's not a very nice person, some people don't like your daddy very much."

And it's like "Oh. Right."

No better than a Daily Star front page headline that doesn't match up to the content of the article (or the facts) at all. Sure it happens all the time but that doesn't mean it should be accepted or encouraged, just because you happen to agree with the specific brand of "Outrage!!" that's being peddled.

[Vicky.]

https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1039825276509855747

Longer video here. Starts a bit earlier than the OP one

Still shows one (very annoying) guy doing all the shouting/talking. The others were there, but appear to be standing away from it all.

However, I do think those on what would be termed 'the hard left' are getting worse in their behaviour. The attempted silencing of anyone disagreeing, protests (that often seem to turn violent), and so on are almost rivalling those on the far right! Neither position is very good, IMO. Both are ridiculous extremes.

[user104658]

https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1039825276509855747

Longer video here. Starts a bit earlier than the OP one

Still shows one (very annoying) guy doing all the shouting/talking. The others were there, but appear to be standing away from it all.

However, I do think those on what would be termed 'the hard left' are getting worse in their behaviour. The attempted silencing of anyone disagreeing, protests (that often seem to turn violent), and so on are almost rivalling those on the far right! Neither position is very good, IMO. Both are ridiculous extremes.True Vicky, sadly it seems like extremism from all angles is increasing, or rather, becoming emboldened. I don't necessarily think attitudes and beliefs are changing, but people are becoming more and more inclined to shout about it from the rooftops.

Its the case in all sort of small / everyday / subtle ways, too, it's not just politics. In some ways, the Kirsty Allsop "I'm proud that I smashed my kids stuff" thing is another example of it.

It even happens on this forum quite a lot... Which is really where my issue with this thread has stemmed from. Its a sort of "Well here's what I personally think is true, and that's that! How dare you question it!" that's becoming pervasive all across society. Actually separating out fact from assumption and explaining logic / reasoning behind an opinion has gone completely out the window and, in fact, people get quite heated if you ask them to explain their logic. "Wot I fink" is supposed to just be accepted, no questions asked.

I personally blame Facebook / Twitter :idc:.

[Cherie]

True Vicky, sadly it seems like extremism from all angles is increasing, or rather, becoming emboldened. I don't necessarily think attitudes and beliefs are changing, but people are becoming more and more inclined to shout about it from the rooftops.

Its the case in all sort of small / everyday / subtle ways, too, it's not just politics. In some ways, the Kirsty Allsop "I'm proud that I smashed my kids stuff" thing is another example of it.

It even happens on this forum quite a lot... Which is really where my issue with this thread has stemmed from. Its a sort of "Well here's what I personally think is true, and that's that! How dare you question it!" that's becoming pervasive all across society. Actually separating out fact from assumption and explaining logic / reasoning behind an opinion has gone completely out the window and, in fact, people get quite heated if you ask them to explain their logic. "Wot I fink" is supposed to just be accepted, no questions asked.

I personally blame Facebook / Twitter :idc:.

Thats not whats happened at all, people have countered yours and others defence if taking the protest to his home and involving his family, whether they were vical or silent makes no difference it is an invasion of their privacy

[Niamh.]

True Vicky, sadly it seems like extremism from all angles is increasing, or rather, becoming emboldened. I don't necessarily think attitudes and beliefs are changing, but people are becoming more and more inclined to shout about it from the rooftops.

Its the case in all sort of small / everyday / subtle ways, too, it's not just politics. In some ways, the Kirsty Allsop "I'm proud that I smashed my kids stuff" thing is another example of it.

It even happens on this forum quite a lot... Which is really where my issue with this thread has stemmed from. Its a sort of "Well here's what I personally think is true, and that's that! How dare you question it!" that's becoming pervasive all across society. Actually separating out fact from assumption and explaining logic / reasoning behind an opinion has gone completely out the window and, in fact, people get quite heated if you ask them to explain their logic. "Wot I fink" is supposed to just be accepted, no questions asked.

I personally blame Facebook / Twitter :idc:.

Was just going to say, I would blame social media for that

[user104658]

Thats not whats happened at all, people have countered yours and others defence if taking the protest to his home and involving his family, whether they were vical or silent makes no difference it is an invasion of their privacy

Except that that hasn't happened. This is what I'm talking about; people need to stick to the facts instead of just imagining what they "feel" is going on. Literally no one defended them being at their home, least of all me, all I've done is repeatedly stated the quite clear fact with video evidence that there was only one man directly addressing the children.

Maybe people for some reason wish the whole crowd HAD been verbally attacking the kids? Because it would make a better / more dramatic story that we can all get angrier about? I don't know... that's also guesswork I suppose. What I do know is that people seem pretty adamant on insisting that something happened that the video clearly showed did NOT happen, first claiming that there was more that wasn't shown in the short clip, and then when that was revealed to also be false when viewing the longer clip, the script shifted to "OH WELL they shouldn't have been there at all why are you OK with that, clearly you would think it was OK if someone did this to you!".

It's all a load of nonsense / nothing / fantasy. I just want people to discuss the actual facts. Like I said; we can all agree that them being there was unnecessary and the fellow directly addressing the kids was abhorrent... there's no NEED to sensationalise it as something more, and actually doing so just makes the whole thing a pointless, facebook-style tooth-gnashing exercise. We're better than that, is all :(.

[Crimson Dynamo]

thankfully the old dole-ite has been roundly criticised by all parties for his disgusting behavoir

[user104658]

Was just going to say, I would blame social media for that

I think it's getting worse, too! My local village has a facebook group, I've been on it for years but never post, and it's become an absolute scream to observe lately :joker:. It used to just be people posting old pics of the village, sharing childhood stories, the occasional announcement about fireworks night etc... but for the past few months it's been constant "classic facebook style" bickering. About anything and everything! 500 word rants about parking on the mainstreet, people not picking up dog poop, people annoyed about local school kids writing their names in some drying cement... all generating dozens of replies and arguments / mocking / bickering / "crying laughing face" snidiness.

I absolutely love it. It's a pretty affluent village so these are mainly people in their 50's+ living in £500,000+ homes... arguing like teenagers. It's a great read some nights.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think it's getting worse, too! My local village has a facebook group, I've been on it for years but never post, and it's become an absolute scream to observe lately :joker:. It used to just be people posting old pics of the village, sharing childhood stories, the occasional announcement about fireworks night etc... but for the past few months it's been constant "classic facebook style" bickering. About anything and everything! 500 word rants about parking on the mainstreet, people not picking up dog poop, people annoyed about local school kids writing their names in some drying cement... all generating dozens of replies and arguments / mocking / bickering / "crying laughing face" snidiness.

I absolutely love it. It's a pretty affluent village so these are mainly people in their 50's+ living in £500,000+ homes... arguing like teenagers. It's a great read some nights.

Yes we have one of those for road conditions and one for community news - its great for exposing vandals, people who let their dogs sh1te around the valley and some low lever bickering about bins and such like

[user104658]

thankfully the old dole-ite has been roundly criticised by all parties for his disgusting behavoir

It must be a really confusing time for a lot of DM readers though. Because on the one hand, the old fellow is a Farage-esque "enough of this PC nonsense" salt-of-the-earth flatcap wearing weirdo, but on the other, he's attacking Mogg, who is championing Beloved Brexit. What to do what to do...

[user104658]

Yes we have one of those for road conditions and one for community news - its great for exposing vandals, people who let their dogs sh1te around the valley and some low lever bickering about bins and such like

The one about vandalism prompted a load of the old members to go out for a walk and find their own childhood vandalism to see if it was still there and post pictures. Someone found "John B, 1958" still etched on the bottom of a bridge and was very excited. Sort of a low-tech Pokemon Go.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It must be a really confusing time for a lot of DM readers though. Because on the one hand, the old fellow is a Farage-esque "enough of this PC nonsense" salt-of-the-earth flatcap wearing weirdo, but on the other, he's attacking Mogg, who is championing Beloved Brexit. What to do what to do...

Our Nigel was actually attacked by a proper baying mob (and his kids) a few years back if you recall and was talking about it last night on his show on LBC

[user104658]

Our Nigel was actually attacked by a proper baying mob (and his kids) a few years back if you recall and was talking about it last night on his show on LBC

Ungrateful little bastards.

[Crimson Dynamo]

:hehe: