Cameron and Isaac spot on

[MTVN]

It was Zoes decision and hers alone, she said twice that she wanted to keep her coins then Lewis F pressures her until she changes her decision then its all 'ah well done :clap2:' and suddenly that's the final decision hmm

[Elliot]

Lewis f knew she felt different but was scared to do so he gave her the platform to do what she truly wanted!

[Calderyon]

It should have been her decision and her decision only.

[MTVN]

Lewis f knew she felt different but was scared to do so he gave her the platform to do what she truly wanted!

That's just his interpretation of her mindset, who does he think he is to tell someone he doesnt know that well 'nah you don't really think that, this is what you think'

[Amy Jade]

He could tell she needed a bit of support in saying what she actually wanted to do.

[bots]

yeah she was pressurised into changing her decision. If she had said, i don't know what to do ... or that she was in 2 minds, then fair enough, but that was just wrong

[MTVN]

As a caveat I was making this thread before Isaac ranted at Anamelia which was a bit unfair but his general point about this decision was right

[Withano]

...it wasnt the final decision because Lewis F finally convinced her, it was the final decision because BB asked her to clarify her answer “now” and she did.

[Elliot]

He could tell she needed a bit of support in saying what she actually wanted to do.

Exactly idk why people can’t see it and see it as some black and white her pressuring her or smh

[y.winter]

Who bloody cares!
LG would've done the same had it been him, because he's all about banter, the little prick. Double standard from his gangsta mate Isaac.

[susie q]

Exactly idk why people can’t see it and see it as some black and white her pressuring her or smh

My thoughts exactly.

[MTVN]

...it wasnt the final decision because Lewis F finally convinced her, it was the final decision because BB asked her to clarify her answer “now” and she did.

Yes coincidentally BB decided it was time for her final answer just after it was clear her head had been turned by Lewis F

[Withano]

Yes coincidentally BB decided it was time for her final answer just after it was clear her head had been turned by Lewis F

Well then your anger should be aimed at production, not Lewis F? (And even then, I’d still say you’d be overthinking it)

[Lostie!]

Isaac only gave a crap because he and his friend were among the obvious choices to swap with, his "I'd be saying this for anyone" spiel was bull****.

[saiwong]

The way I saw it was …

that Isaac, Lewis G and Akeem became a close group of Bro's

and Isaac felt that his buddy was in danger of losing a large proportion of his coins. This is why he was so angry.


Lewis F does not like Lewis G and thus wanted Zoe to take his coins.


So it all boils down to "Do you like Lewis G ?"

if you do, then side for Zoe to keep her own coins
if not, then side for Zoe to take Lewis G coins

[MTVN]

Well then your anger should be aimed at production, not Lewis F? (And even then, I’d still say you’d be overthinking it)

It wouldn't have mattered without Lewis F so he still bears the brunt of the blame. Fact is she had a decision to be made, she made it, housemates tried to change it, she then confirmed her decision, housemates tried to change it again, she then changed her decision. It's not fair of BB to only accept the choice at that point but its also not fair of the housemates, mainly Lewis F, to try and change her decision so forcefully

[Rob!]

Zoe clearly wanted to swap, otherwise she wouldn't have done.

[Mokka]

I see it more of a case of Lewis G can dish it out... and his buddy can have his back for playing the game...

But when the game is played against them... they can't handle it

[MTVN]

Isaac only gave a crap because he and his friend were among the obvious choices to swap with, his "I'd be saying this for anyone" spiel was bull****.

The way I saw it was …

that Isaac, Lewis G and Akeem became a close group of Bro's

and Isaac felt that his buddy was in danger of losing a large proportion of his coins. This is why he was so angry.


Lewis F does not like Lewis G and thus wanted Zoe to take his coins.


So it all boils down to "Do you like Lewis G ?"

if you do, then side for Zoe to keep her own coins
if not, then side for Zoe to take Lewis G coins

It wasn't just Isaac though, Cameron also felt it was very unfair

[Amy Jade]

I see it more of a case of Lewis G can dish it out... and his buddy can have his back for playing the game...

But when the game is played against them... they can't handle it

Perfectly put. Typical lads.

[MTVN]

Zoe clearly wanted to swap, otherwise she wouldn't have done.

tbh I'd say she clearly didn't want to swap as she seemed pretty confident the first time she said she was just going to keep her coins and was then very upset at the fact she did end up swapping

[MTVN]

Also Lewis G actually handled it very well and went straight over to comfort Zoe

[Withano]

It wouldn't have mattered without Lewis F so he still bears the brunt of the blame. Fact is she had a decision to be made, she made it, housemates tried to change it, she then confirmed her decision, housemates tried to change it again, she then changed her decision. It's not fair of BB to only accept the choice at that point but its also not fair of the housemates, mainly Lewis F, to try and change her decision so forcefully

...it was a decision she didn’t want to make (obviously, the same would go for literally every other hm in the same situation), Lewis F reminded her of this, and bb asked for a final decision.

I dont really understand what you find wrong about this. Its like you want Zoe to do things she doesnt actually want to do :suspect:

[rusticgal]

It wasn't just Isaac though, Cameron also felt it was very unfair


Cameron...the one who tried to use blackmail management to bag himself 100 big coins?....ally fair in love and war :laugh:

[MTVN]

...it was a decision she didn’t want to make (obviously, the same would go for literally every other hm in the same situation), Lewis F reminded her of this, and bb asked for a final decision.

I dont really understand what you find wrong about this. Its like you want Zoe to do things she doesnt actually want to do :suspect:

That is exactly what Lewis F did yes and he then reduced Zoe to tears by doing it

[bots]

Cameron...the one who tried to use blackmail management to bag himself 100 big coins?....ally fair in love and war :laugh:

its great really, and the housemates that quietly sold their stash on the black market .... this is what bb should be :laugh:

[MTVN]

Cameron...the one who tried to use blackmail management to bag himself 100 big coins?....ally fair in love and war :laugh:

A good young Conservative

[rusticgal]

...it was a decision she didn’t want to make (obviously, the same would go for literally every other hm in the same situation), Lewis F reminded her of this, and bb asked for a final decision.

I dont really understand what you find wrong about this. Its like you want Zoe to do things she doesnt actually want to do :suspect:

Lewis F's only wrong was calling out Lewis G as the one to swap with. However, he had every right to help her make the right decision for her, fair play to him.

[rusticgal]

its great really, and the housemates that quietly sold their stash on the black market .... this is what bb should be :laugh:


It's all about the game...but then calling out Lewis F for manipulating the game was a bit rich IMO..

[Mystic Mock]

He could tell she needed a bit of support in saying what she actually wanted to do.

That sounds like what I would tell Housemates if I was in there.:devil:

[GoldHeart]

It should have been her decision and her decision only.

Exactly!