Eating meat is worse than smoking cigarettes

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I’m confused about this but kay wouldn’t lie to us

[Marsh.]

Detest people like that.

Be vegan, but don't force it on other people by trying to guilt them or shame them.

Bloody cow!

[montblanc]

how dare she say such a thing

i suddenly unstan and want her OUT

[montblanc]

queen of vegans

[Elliot]

Never touching meat again ugh her impact

[Marsh.]

We LOVE MEAT!

[Elliot]

Peta shook

[Jason.]

Didn't know Our Lostie was in the house

[Withano]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/c26bbcb581def2c46ba9e722cd81d4ce/tenor.gif?itemid=6214959

[armand.kay]

They should of specified that its processed meat that has been deemed as bad as smoking

[Cal.]

Smoking actually causes 64,500 cancer cases in the UK! Processed meats only cause 8,800 cancer cases!

[Marsh.]

Smoking actually causes 64,500 cancer cases in the UK! Processed meats only cause 8,800 cancer cases!

EAT SH*T KAY!!!

[Lostie!]

Didn't know Our Lostie was in the house

:joker:

[Cherie]

Smoking actually causes 64,500 cancer cases in the UK! Processed meats only cause 8,800 cancer cases!

Dr Cal

[Cherie]

EAT SH*T KAY!!!

Only if it’s unprocessed :nono:

[Marsh.]

Only if it’s unprocessed :nono:

:joker:

[Jessica.]

Meat is disgusting, we don't need it, if people like it they should have it in moderation, like alcohol.

[Elliot]

Vitriol towards vegans is kinda silly tho like the alternatives are out there and readily avaliable good for you good for animals good for the environment I can understand when it’s someone shoving politics down ur throat but there’s not really any drawbacks to veganism like they have a pretty huge right to be mad :/

[Mystic Mock]

Lewis F and Kay shouldn't have spread lies like that, smoking is clearly a healthy thing to do.:hehe:

[reece(:]

Disciple Kay :love:

[pontyboi]

Like anyone is going to even take this **** seriously I mean Lewis F was claiming eggs were dairy a few days back.

Tonight though I got the feeling they were actually joking to Cameron to get a reaction.

[GoldHeart]

I’m confused about this but kay wouldn’t lie to us

Noticed Lewis F is bringing her Vegan passion out of her more , but i'm fed up of this daft argument when we all know SMOKING is worse . Sure somebody could smoke all their life and may not necessarily get cancer but their insides are screwed ! from all the tobacco .

Plus the respiratory is weakened . There's so many bad things that happen to you due to smoking :facepalm: .

I know meat can contribute to bad health , but it all depends on how it's cooked and how it's prepared .

[Crimson Dynamo]

what about smoked bacon?

eh?

[Garfie]

The way the conversation progressed suggested to me that they were joking around with Cameron, more than anything else. I mean, they went on to tell him that plants have feelings!!

[BBDodge]

The way the conversation progressed suggested to me that they were joking around with Cameron, more than anything else. I mean, they went on to tell him that plants have feelings!!

Absolutely. It was the fun part of the show. Good stuff.

[RileyH]

Meat is disgusting, we don't need it, if people like it they should have it in moderation, like alcohol.

No

[Calderyon]

Meat is awesome.

[Jessica.]

No

great argument

[Greg!]

Meat is disgusting, we don't need it, if people like it they should have it in moderation, like alcohol.

Or just let people live how they want?

[Underscore]

Omfg we stan a fellow vegan :love:

Now you know how smokers feel when non-smokers preach to us :nono:

[Elliot]

Or just let people live how they want?

If only the billions of cows got this liberty :(

[Greg!]

If only the billions of cows got this liberty :(

Well they don't babes sadly it's the circle of life

[Redway]

Meat is disgusting, we don't need it, if people like it they should have it in moderation, like alcohol.

Seasoned chicken’s disgusting?

[Glenn.]

It’s not our fault that meat is delicious!

[armand.kay]

Seasoned chicken’s disgusting?

Thats why it has to be seasoned. It's disgusting. :fan:

[JerseyWins]

I love meat... but I love Kay more :flutter:

[Glenn.]

Plants have feelings too so you vegan lot are just as vicious and nasty!

[Elliot]

We could all be like the human Barbie who lives off light and air
VuTxd68iAoA

[armand.kay]

Well they don't babes sadly it's the circle of life

oop forgot the circle of life involved being locked up in a disgusting warehouse until you're fat enough to kill.

[armand.kay]

or being dragged away from your mother and sold off for veil because they need her milk for their frosted flakes.

[armand.kay]

We could all be like the human Barbie who lives off light and air
VuTxd68iAoA

we should all just not eat and die the planet doesn't need us.

[JerseyWins]

Love vegans just could NOT do it myself.

In fact, I'm going to get some kind of meat for lunch in a moment

https://i.imgur.com/Fm4yE6m.gif

[Elliot]

Me driving the human race off a cliff
https://i.imgur.com/Fm4yE6m.gif

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Kill all humans!

[armand.kay]

Love vegans just could NOT do it myself.

In fact, I'm going to get some kind of meat for lunch in a moment

https://i.imgur.com/Fm4yE6m.gif

have you tried cutting down a bit? Then you save money and splash out on better quality, more ethically sourced meat.

https://i.imgur.com/Fm4yE6m.gif

[armand.kay]

Me driving the human race off a cliff
https://i.imgur.com/Fm4yE6m.gif

Kill all humans!

mmm yes!
http://oi49.tinypic.com/j0fyp0.jpg

[Mystic Mock]

White Meat is good for you, and so is having Milk as it gives you Calcium obviously.

However I do love Sausages, although I don't get how Farmers have their animals get killed, if I was a Farmer I'd have to run a Veggie Farm.

[Marsh.]

Meat is disgusting, we don't need it, if people like it they should have it in moderation, like alcohol.

Apply that to everything else in your life that you don't "need" and get back to us. :idc:

[Alf]

I do both and I'm alright.

[RileyH]

I do both and I'm alright.

For now :worry:

[Jordan.]

I'd rather die early then spend life eating mold and cardboard

[Niamh.]

Meat is disgusting, we don't need it, if people like it they should have it in moderation, like alcohol.Me and Gav are 4 weeks veggie now :hee: the kids eat meat a couple of times a week still but they like the veggie meals too, I made a vegetarian lasagne tonight, it was delicious

[Underscore]

I do both and I'm alright.

marlboro reds?

[Elliot]

Apply that to everything else in your life that you don't "need" and get back to us. :idc:

A proper vegan diet is actually better for u than meat but ok

[armand.kay]

Me and Gav are 4 weeks veggie now :hee: the kids eat meat a couple of times a week still but they like the veggie meals too, I made a vegetarian lasagne tonight, it was delicious

Oh wow has it been hard for you guys? I hope its going well for you guys.

I think everyone knows a veggie lasagne is the better lasagne - few of my meat eating friends normally order the veggie over the meaty lasagne if were eating out.

[Underscore]

smoke 2o marlbroros a day and eat quionao and we friends

[Niamh.]

Oh wow has it been hard for you guys? I hope its going well for you guys.

I think everyone knows a veggie lasagne is the better lasagne - few of my meat eating friends normally order the veggie over the meaty lasagne if were eating out.It actually hasn't been hard at all, which I'm very surprised about but I've been really getting into cooking proper meals instead of just relying on quorn. Lentil curry is another of my new favourites

I'd never even tasted a veggie lasagne before today [emoji23] I was very impressed with myself, it was so tasty

[Alf]

marlboro reds?I'm not American.

[Underscore]

I'm not American.

:( marlboro are the best

although can settle for l&b or sterling

[Marsh.]

A proper vegan diet is actually better for u than meat but ok

The person I responded to wasn't talking about a vegan lifestyle, but simply meat eating. But ok.

Preach to someone else.

[Maru]

Detest people like that.

Be vegan, but don't force it on other people by trying to guilt them or shame them.

Bloody cow!

:nono: *gasp*

[Alf]

:( marlboro are the best

although can settle for l&b or sterlingCigs are far too expensive these days, I roll my own now, it's a lot cheaper and does the same job.

[Marsh.]

:nono:

:joker:

[Underscore]

Cigs are far too expensive these days, I roll my own now, it's a lot cheaper and does the same job.

amber leaf :love: but still do love a good marlboro red

[user104658]

What would be the point in living until 90 if you can never have steak again :think:

[user104658]

Also Lewis F was talking utter sh*te but I think he more or less knew it and it was tongue-in-cheek.

[Greg!]

oop forgot the circle of life involved being locked up in a disgusting warehouse until you're fat enough to kill.

Well first of all you're exaggerating and also it's a lot more humane than other animals who tear eachhother limb from limb before eating them

[Redway]

Thats why it has to be seasoned. It's disgusting. :fan:

These comments are the reason people take the piss out of vegetarians in the first place.

By the way. Lettuce is worse than disgusting and all.

[armand.kay]

It actually hasn't been hard at all, which I'm very surprised about but I've been really getting into cooking proper meals instead of just relying on quorn. Lentil curry is another of my new favourites

I'd never even tasted a veggie lasagne before today [emoji23] I was very impressed with myself, it was so tasty

Yeah i was pretty much the same i sort of decided i was vegan watched a few vids on youtube and haven't really looked back since.it didn't really feel like I was restricting my diet because I was trying so many things I hadn't tried before. I think as long as you make sure you get everything you need in your diet it should be smooth sailing.

[armand.kay]

These comments are the reason people take the piss out of vegetarians in the first place.

By the way. Lettuce is worse than disgusting and all.
Can't say I'm that bothered about vegetarian jokes because its the same 4 jokes re worded. Also lettuce is just plain.

[armand.kay]

Well first of all you're exaggerating and also it's a lot more humane than other animals who tear eachhother limb from limb before eating them

At least they get to roam around and enjoy their lives before being mauled rather than being killed as an infant or fattened up and killed a few years later

[Niamh.]

Yeah i was pretty much the same i sort of decided i was vegan watched a few vids on youtube and haven't really looked back since.it didn't really feel like I was restricting my diet because I was trying so many things I hadn't tried before. I think as long as you make sure you get everything you need in your diet it should be smooth sailing.Yeah exactly, just keep interesting, it feels like I'm gaining something instead of losing something :love:

[Redway]

Can't say I'm that bothered about vegetarian jokes because its the same 4 jokes re worded. Also lettuce is just plain.

Carnivore jokes are even more dead so it’s draw-draw where that argument goes. Why’s it alright for Jessica to make dry jokes about meat-eaters but not vice versa, hm?

[Vicky.]

I would live on meat if I could afford to.

Fag in one hand, bloody steak in the other, knawing away like a caveman. Perfect.

[Marsh.]

At least they get to roam around and enjoy their lives before being mauled rather than being killed as an infant or fattened up and killed a few years later

Do people get this romanticised view of the animal kingdom from Snow White or...?

[Greg!]

At least they get to roam around and enjoy their lives before being mauled rather than being killed as an infant or fattened up and killed a few years later

Before they're killed by a quick electric blow to the head cows etc get to roam around fields anyway tho which is what they would do in the wild? (Even though they don't live in the wild anymore anyway and would die out if they were stopped being bred for food/milk)

[Redway]

Do people get this romanticised view of the animal kingdom from Snow White or...?

Exactly. I’d have more respect for more vegetarians if I didn’t think it was rooted in weak sentimentality for the most part.

[armand.kay]

Carnivore jokes are even more dead so it’s draw-draw where that argument goes. Why’s it alright for Jessica to make dry jokes about meat-eaters but not vice versa, hm?
Can't really say I've seen many carnivore jokes

Do people get this romanticised view of the animal kingdom from Snow White or...?

No sure probably the same place they get this idealised view of farm animals having a goood old time in an open field before strolling into the Slaughter house so they can finally fulfil their dreams of becoming a burger.

[Redway]

Can't really say I've seen many carnivore jokes



No sure probably the same place they get this idealised view of farm animals having a goood old time in an open field before strolling into the Slaughter house so they can finally fulfil their dreams of becoming a burger.

“You have to season chicken because it’s disgusting.”

I take that as a lame-arse joke in itself. Especially coming from a guy like you.

[Vicky.]

Wow people get ever so worked up on the topic of what other people eat don't they. I genuinely don't care, as long as its not shoved in my face. Though I have never ever had a meat eater shove their beliefs down my throat, where a fair few vegetarian friends will just drone on and on and on about how evil I am for finding meat ****ing tasty! :laugh:

[armand.kay]

“You have to season chicken because it’s disgusting.”

I take that as a lame-arse joke in itself. Especially coming from a guy like you.

I can't be hilarious all the time. Im only human.

Also guy like me?

[Marsh.]

Yeah, be vegetarian/vegan out of choice, health or for the environment but when people try to guilt or shame meat eaters because of, as you say, sentimental reasons it becomes rather silly IMO.

[Marsh.]

No sure probably the same place they get this idealised view of farm animals having a goood old time in an open field before strolling into the Slaughter house so they can finally fulfil their dreams of becoming a burger.

Meat eaters don't generally beam with pride or drone on about being meat eaters so not sure where you got this fiction from.

[Redway]

I can't be hilarious all the time. Im only human.

Also guy like me?

I just think it’s funny how a black guy can say chicken’s disgusting. You’re not serious at all are you.

And if you admit to the first bit then don’t call out other people’s vegetarian jokes as unfunny either.

[Jase.]

I eat meat AND smoke. I'm doomed girls!

[Elliot]

Meat eaters don't generally beam with pride or drone on about being meat eaters so not sure where you got this fiction from.

I wonder why they don’t advertise their way of living.. must be because their lifestyle is healthy, good for the enviroment, good for animals

[armand.kay]

I just think it’s funny how a black guy can say chicken’s disgusting. You’re not serious at all are you.

And if you admit to the first bit then don’t call out other people’s vegetarian jokes as unfunny either.

1st of all why would I a vegan of 3+ find chicken tasty, 2 did I not even say unseasoned chicken? Finally the whole black people love chicken thing is a mess because chicken is universally liked it's not just a black thing. It's not even a meat thats really used in my culture as people from Rwanda prefer beef with it being primarily made up of cattle herders. So you can miss me with the whole black thing.

Also I never said vegetarian jokes are unfunny, I just said they don't bother me because 9/10 I've probably heard that same joke countless times before. Clearly my joke bothered you though because you seem really heated.

[Redway]

I wonder why they don’t advertise their way of living.. must be because their lifestyle is healthy, good for the enviroment, good for animals

On the other hand it could just be because meat-eaters are the majority and don’t need to prove their relevance by preaching and shaming.

[Niamh.]

1st of all why would I a vegan of 3+ find chicken tasty, 2 did I not even say unseasoned chicken? Finally the whole black people love chicken thing is a mess because chicken is universally liked it's not just a black thing. It's not even a meat thats really used in my culture as people from Rwanda with it being made up of primarily cattle herders. So you can miss me with the whole black thing.

Also I never said vegetarian jokes are unfunny, I just said they don't bother me because 9/10 I've probably heard that same joke countless times before. Clearly my joke bothered you though because you seem really heated.[emoji122]

[armand.kay]

Meat eaters don't generally beam with pride or drone on about being meat eaters so not sure where you got this fiction from.

When did I say meet eaters beam with pride? I was just pointing out the messy propaganda on a lot of meat and dairy products that make out the cows and farm animals are just having a blast on their lil farm.

Also theres literally posts in here saying they would rather die then eat meat :skull:

[Redway]

1st of all why would I a vegan of 3+ find chicken tasty, 2 did I not even say unseasoned chicken? Finally the whole black people love chicken thing is a mess because chicken is universally liked it's not just a black thing. It's not even a meat thats really used in my culture as people from Rwanda with it being made up of primarily cattle herders. So you can miss me with the whole black thing.

Also I never said vegetarian jokes are unfunny, I just said they don't bother me because 9/10 I've probably heard that same joke countless times before. Clearly my joke bothered you though because you seem really heated.

You can either be pedantic about it for the sake of stock counter-arguments or take my post for what it is. Either way you know what I’m saying really.

Enjoy your rabbit food. Don’t shame meat-eaters with primary school arguments.

[armand.kay]

-cough-weak sentimentality-cough

Enjoy your rabbit food. Don’t shame meat-eaters with primary school arguments.

Ah yes back in primary school when we use to debate about the damaging effect mass meat production has had on our environment or have frank discussions about the ethics of the meat and dairy industry as it stands. Urgh, those were the days. Take me back to being 9

[Redway]

I didn’t know it was unnatural and unethical for cows to be milked.

[armand.kay]

You can either be pedantic about it for the sake of stock counter-arguments or take my post for what it is. Either way you know what I’m saying really.


You always say that in discussions "you know what I'm saying" and I'll be honest with you I really don't know what you're saying, either elaborate or just leave the whole black thing out of it because clearly my experience as a black person isn't identical to yours.

[Redway]

I know that you know what I’m saying deep down so I’m not even going there.

You’re allowed your lifestyle but you should have as much respect for carnivores as you expect them to have for you. That’s the crux of it.

[Niamh.]

I didn’t know it was unnatural and unethical for cows to be milked.I'm not one to preach on this, I'm not vegan just vegetarian so far but you're burying your head in the sand if you think that the dairy industry is natural and ethical. Educate yourself.

[michael21]

I'm not one to preach on this, I'm not vegan just vegetarian so far but you're burying your head in the sand if you think that the dairy industry is natural and ethical. Educate yourself.

:worship::worship::worship:

[armand.kay]

I didn’t know it was unnatural and unethical for cows to be milked.

It's not really my job to tell people what is and what isn't ethical but a lot of people really don't know what goes into getting their food to them and It's my opinion that if more people were 100% aware they would at least consider cutting down on the amount they consume.

Also whether you drink milk or not theres no arguing that drinking another animals milk isn't very natural seeing as nature intended for that milk to go to their babies. Theres a reason so many people are lactose intolerant.

[Redway]

:worship::worship::worship:

I know you probably don’t even know what this thread’s about but just chose to react to anything involving me being countered so you’re not bothering me kid.

[armand.kay]

I know that you know what I’m saying deep down so I’m not even going there.

You’re allowed your lifestyle but you should have as much respect for carnivores as you expect them to have for you. That’s the crux of it.

I really have no clue what you're saying, so be frank or don't bring it up at all. I don't think you understand how annoying it is trying to engage in a discussion over the internet, with someone who constantly expects you to read between the lines.

Show me where I disrespected anyone for eating meat?

[Redway]

It's not really my job to tell people what is and what isn't ethical but a lot of people really don't know what goes into getting their food to them and It's my opinion that if more people were 100% aware they would at least consider cutting down on the amount they consume.

Also whether you drink milk or not theres no arguing that drinking another animals milk isn't very natural seeing as nature intended for that milk to go to their babies. Theres a reason so many people are lactose intolerant.

If you said it like that from the first it would’ve been calm but you were acting like a standard villitsnt vegan nearer the top of the thread. I accept your point.

[michael21]

I know you probably don’t even know what this thread’s about but just chose to react to anything involving me being countered so you’re not bothering me kid.

Well that very big headed of you I only came in here because I saw sexy niamh ok grandad

[Vicky.]

Of course the milking industry is unethical really. I don't know too much about it but I presume that the cows have to be pregnant near constantly..as I would think thats the only way they would keep producing milk? IDK. I don't really think about all of this that much. But in these kinds of arguments usually it comes up that if we had to kill our own animals we would not eat meat. I must be rare in that because I wouldn't have an issue with that and really, the meat would be MUCH tastier if completely fresh.

I would rather the animals have a decent life, but I am not going to pretend that I stress and that over it all. Meat tastes nice, I am addicted to tea so I need milk also, and I don't feel guilty about it :shrug:

[michael21]

If you said it like that from the first it would’ve been calm but you were acting like a standard villitsnt vegan nearer the top of the thread. I accept your point.

So you was wrong :laugh:

[Redway]

I really have no clue what you're saying, so be frank or don't bring it up at all. I don't think you understand how annoying it is trying to engage in a discussion over the internet, with someone who constantly expects you to read between the lines.

Show me where I disrespected anyone for eating meat?


“oop forgot the circle of life involved being locked up in a disgusting warehouse until you're fat enough to kill.

or being dragged away from your mother and sold off for veil because they need her milk for their frosted flakes.”

What other inference can anyone draw from that than you having a go at meat eaters? Or was that not supposed to be taken literally?

[Redway]

So you was wrong :laugh:

That’s it kid. I’m about to make a life-altering decision about food all because I accept someone’s point on the Internet.

[michael21]

That’s it kid. I’m about to make a life-altering decision about food all because I accept someone’s point on the Internet.

Yea you love being wrong dont you

[Redway]

I don’t think you understand sarcasm.

[armand.kay]

“oop forgot the circle of life involved being locked up in a disgusting warehouse until you're fat enough to kill.

or being dragged away from your mother and sold off for veil because they need her milk for their frosted flakes.”

What other inference can anyone draw from that than you having a go at meat eaters? Or was that not supposed to be taken literally?

I was having a go at the implication that factory farming is at all natural or part of the cirle of life. If you took that as me comming for meat eatsrs then thats your problem because I didn't say anything about people who eat meat. My comments were on the industries that produces meat.

[michael21]

I don’t think you understand sarcasm.

But you understand being wrong don't you redwrong

[Niamh.]

Of course the milking industry is unethical really. I don't know too much about it but I presume that the cows have to be pregnant near constantly..as I would think thats the only way they would keep producing milk? IDK. I don't really think about all of this that much. But in these kinds of arguments usually it comes up that if we had to kill our own animals we would not eat meat. I must be rare in that because I wouldn't have an issue with that and really, the meat would be MUCH tastier if completely fresh.

I would rather the animals have a decent life, but I am not going to pretend that I stress and that over it all. Meat tastes nice, I am addicted to tea so I need milk also, and I don't feel guilty about it :shrug:Exactly. That's reality and you accept that. People pretending it's all rosie and nice is either disingenuous or ignorant is all I'm saying.

[Marsh.]

When did I say meet eaters beam with pride? I was just pointing out the messy propaganda on a lot of meat and dairy products that make out the cows and farm animals are just having a blast on their lil farm.

Discussing "more humane" than others isn't about a fairytale land where animals are all living lovely lives.

Your idea that not eating animals results in some utopia where the animals wander off into a beautiful life, however, is ridiculous.


Also theres literally posts in here saying they would rather die then eat meat :skull:

I agree that's silly.

[Marsh.]

I wonder why they don’t advertise their way of living.. must be because their lifestyle is healthy, good for the enviroment, good for animals

Really? You don't advertise? Could've fooled me, I feel like you've said this in every ad break thus far. :hee:

[Marsh.]

Theres a reason so many people are lactose intolerant.

You could hold up examples of people intolerant to literally every source of food on the planet. That is not proof of anything. :skull:

[Marsh.]

But you understand being wrong don't you redwrong

You do choose your times to type coherent sentences don't you, lad?

[Maru]

I feel like religious conversion would be easier than arguing with most anyone who is a vegetarian/vegan... :laugh:

[TomC]

i respect other reasons like health for example but i genuinely think people have a staggering misunderstanding of agriculture sometimes.

cattle do generally remain outdoors much of the time as it is better for their health which is obviously in farmers' interest, and cows in agriculture also get medically treated to the highest of standards where necessary.

there isn't a situation where cows roam free on the own. modern cattle would literally die in the wild without agriculture.

[armand.kay]

Discussing "more humane" than others isn't about a fairytale land where animals are all living lovely lives.

Your idea that not eating animals results in some utopia where the animals wander off into a beautiful life, however, is ridiculous.


Point me to where I sudgested that everyone should be vegan? I even sudgested to someone in here that they should cut down on meat and use the money they save on better quality, more ethically/locally sourced meat. I was never talking about more humane. When I broght up the fairy tale land I was talking about the meet and dairy industry use as propaganda e.g The Laughing Cow etc

[Maru]

I had my physical done recently and for the first time they asked me if I was a practicing vegan or vegetarian. I was like "No". So my nurse was like "Oh, good". Me and the husband were like "hmmmm".

I don't think I've ever been asked in regular life that much, but I know some who do practice it. None of them try to force it, but they try to say "Hey you know, we can get by fine so you probably can..."... but I know better than to try to counter-argue, because people are quite passionate about that lifestyle so...

Stubbornness can be either be a really great quality or bad one in a person... it just depends on how they handle that. I tend to think of it is a positive.

[Marsh.]

Point me to where I sudgested that everyone should be vegan? I even sudgested to someone in here that they should cut down on meat and use the money they save on better quality, more ethically/locally sourced meat. I was never talking about more humane. When I broght up the fairy tale land I was talking about the meet and dairy industry use as propaganda e.g The Laughing Cow etc

I never said you did, maybe you misunderstood what I posted.

[GoldHeart]

I had my physical done recently and for the first time they asked me if I was a practicing vegan or vegetarian. I was like "No". So my nurse was like "Oh, good". Me and the husband were like "hmmmm".

I don't think I've ever been asked in regular life that much, but I know some who do practice it. None of them try to force it, but they try to say "Hey you know, we can get by fine so you probably can..."... but I know better than to try to counter-argue, because people are quite passionate about that lifestyle so...

Stubbornness can be either be a really great quality or bad one in a person... it just depends on how they handle that. I tend to think of it is a positive.

This Twat makes Vegans look mentally insane :crazy: :bored:
PU3PXFBTZOg

[Ammi]

I know that you know what I’m saying deep down so I’m not even going there.

You’re allowed your lifestyle but you should have as much respect for carnivores as you expect them to have for you. That’s the crux of it.

..I have to say Redway that I sadly often find it the opposite of what you say is your experiences...?...and we can only go by our own personal experiences...I don’t eat meat myself and haven’t for many years..everyone knows I don’t and yet occasionally...(..and it is only occasionally and in a lighthearted way I will say..)...I’m still asked...why don’t you eat meat, how could you not want to eat bacon or try a steak or whatever...just similar things to that...it’s not something I find tedious or annoying in any way because it’s not that often that it happens...but just why, really...why ask, why question, why comment...why not just accept as it has no bearing on what anyone else has chosen in their lifestyle...?...so it doesn’t always feel that you are ‘allowed’ your lifestyle and food choices, without being questioned and then questioned again...and still not understood or accepted...?...so I can see for some people how that would provoke a defensiveness, which can lead to this type of discussion being a little ‘heated’...

...and here in the old 2018 with so many people choosing a vegetarian or vegan lifestyle..?...there is still not a great variety of options available in restaurants...the vegetarian and vegan choices are quite limited in comparison to meat eating choices, does that show an equal respect..?...and in some cases the choices are all quite ‘samey’ and uninventive...I went somewhere quite recently and there was a huge choice on the main menu...but for me..?...the only choice really was pasta..and I’m not hugely fond of pasta...so I don’t feel that vegetarianism or veganism is always respected or catered for that much to be honest...I mean I totally respect that people eat meat and always will but more and more people are choosing not to and it has to be a two way thing...there is a lot more choice than there used to be and it is becoming less questioned or commented on...but there is still a way to go for me, considering it’s 2018 and there shouldn’t be a way to go ...yeah vegetarianism and veganism should be allowed their lifestyle...they should be allowed their lifestyle without comment or jokes or whatever but sadly that allowance sometimes isn’t there and carries on persisting in making jibes etc...

[armand.kay]

I never said you did, maybe you misunderstood what I posted.

so then what did you mean?

[Ammi]

...ironically..it’s processed meat which is given to children in school meals ...which have been deemed to be ‘balanced’ in their nutritional content...and it’s the cheapest processed meat as well..the lowest quality of the lowest quality, type thing...after they’ve eaten that potentially toxic meat, would the government think it’s okay to finish the meal off with a nice cigarette for each one...an after meal smoke..

[arista]

Meat is disgusting, we don't need it, if people like it they should have it in moderation, like alcohol.


Its Not disgusting
at all.

[arista]

...ironically..it’s processed meat which is given to children in school meals ...which have been deemed to be ‘balanced’ in their nutritional content...and it’s the cheapest processed meat as well..the lowest quality of the lowest quality, type thing...after they’ve eaten that potentially toxic meat, would the government think it’s okay to finish the meal off with a nice cigarette for each one...an after meal smoke..

It is not potentially Toxic.
The Problem in schools
Is many kids
refusing to eat veg with their meals.

That's got to change,

[Ammi]

It is not potentially Toxic.
The Problem in schools
Is many kids
refusing to eat veg with their meals.

That's got to change,

..it is potentially toxic, Arista...it’s full of chemicals which have been linked with cancer in their toxicity value..so yes, it’s potentially toxic and it’s being given to children as a ‘balanced nutritious meal’...and a child can eat bucketfuls of vegetables but that still won’t change that they’re being given unhealthy meat with those vegetables..it won’t counter that, baby..:laugh:...

[Zizu]

So in that recent tv series Sugar-Free Diet ..

They had a group of volunteers who were given a healthy diet which for two weeks excluded ALL sugar even naturally found sugar ( in fruit etc ) .. they added naturally found sugar foods after a fortnight but exclude processed sugar totally ...

Anyways from day ONE ... one of their options as part of the 'healthy' diet was a bacon /sausage fry up in LARD each morning ..

!?!?!????!


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[user104658]

So in that recent tv series Sugar-Free Diet ..

They had a group of volunteers who were given a healthy diet which for two weeks excluded ALL sugar even naturally found sugar ( in fruit etc ) .. they added naturally found sugar foods after a fortnight but exclude processed sugar totally ...

Anyways from day ONE ... one of their options as part of the 'healthy' diet was a bacon /sausage fry up in LARD each morning ..

!?!?!????!


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkBecause sugar is much (much, much) worse for you than fat. The idea that "fat makes you fat" is outdated by several decades.

[bots]

..it is potentially toxic, Arista...it’s full of chemicals which have been linked with cancer in their toxicity value..so yes, it’s potentially toxic and it’s being given to children as a ‘balanced nutritious meal’...and a child can eat bucketfuls of vegetables but that still won’t change that they’re being given unhealthy meat with those vegetables..it won’t counter that, baby..:laugh:...

i think that you need to take account of the fact that kids need and process food completely differently from adults.

Potatoes are toxic if you eat them for 80 years ... everything becomes toxic for you at some point. While trans fats should be avoided .... who is really going to give up a donut once in a while if they find them delicious :drool:

People do jump on bandwagons and start preaching, but our own bodies know whats good or bad for us. We know instinctively what to eat when we are deficient in particular vitamins etc. A body is after all basically just a factory that requires fuel to operate.

[Ammi]

i think that you need to take account of the fact that kids need and process food completely differently from adults.

Potatoes are toxic if you eat them for 80 years ... everything becomes toxic for you at some point. While trans fats should be avoided .... who is really going to give up a donut once in a while if they find them delicious :drool:

People do jump on bandwagons and start preaching, but our own bodies know whats good or bad for us. We know instinctively what to eat when we are deficient in particular vitamins etc. A body is after all basically just a factory that requires fuel to operate.

..it isn’t once in a while that children’s school meals contain processed meat though, Bots...it’s a daily thing with only a few days being the exception...the point is that they’re being given chemicals in their meat which are potentially toxic and they’re being given it on a regular basis through their childhood...and it’s adults, as in the government..?..who are making that decision for them because the children aren’t of an age to know what is good or bad for their bodies...they’re being told that their school meal diet is nutritious when it isn’t, so basically being lied to and given potentially toxic foods...

[arista]

..it is potentially toxic, Arista...it’s full of chemicals which have been linked with cancer in their toxicity value..so yes, it’s potentially toxic and it’s being given to children as a ‘balanced nutritious meal’...and a child can eat bucketfuls of vegetables but that still won’t change that they’re being given unhealthy meat with those vegetables..it won’t counter that, baby..:laugh:...

Everything seems to get linked with Cancer.

Free Range Meat Costs more
that's the problem.

[tiger_greengrass]

So if we can't eat dead animals, guess we should eat live ones?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I had some square sausage this morning

will I now get diabetus?

[Zizu]

I had some square sausage this morning

will I now get diabetus?



Those square sausages were potato waffles :)

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[Zizu]

Because sugar is much (much, much) worse for you than fat. The idea that "fat makes you fat" is outdated by several decades.



I agree ...

I've always used LARD to fry things .. as a kid my mum used to cook chips in lard as well ..

My point was they were promoting eating bacon / sausages for breakfast each day ..

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[Redway]

1st of all why would I a vegan of 3+ find chicken tasty, 2 did I not even say unseasoned chicken? Finally the whole black people love chicken thing is a mess because chicken is universally liked it's not just a black thing. It's not even a meat thats really used in my culture as people from Rwanda prefer beef with it being primarily made up of cattle herders. So you can miss me with the whole black thing.

Also I never said vegetarian jokes are unfunny, I just said they don't bother me because 9/10 I've probably heard that same joke countless times before. Clearly my joke bothered you though because you seem really heated.

“I never said vegetarian jokes are unfunny, I just said they don’t bother me...”

You just love to split hairs don’t you. I think that’s a defence on your part because your counter arguments otherwise aren’t strong enough to fill up more than a sentence.

[Niamh.]

So if we can't eat dead animals, guess we should eat live ones?Thanks for this valuable contribution

[Vicky.]

Because sugar is much (much, much) worse for you than fat. The idea that "fat makes you fat" is outdated by several decades.

Quite. Infact the fastest (and some say healthiest too) way to lose weight is actually with a HIGH fat diet. High fat, low carb.

[Jessica.]

Me and Gav are 4 weeks veggie now :hee: the kids eat meat a couple of times a week still but they like the veggie meals too, I made a vegetarian lasagne tonight, it was delicious

Proud of you! Good example for the kids too. :love:

[Aaliyah]

I hate vegans.

My cousin is vegan so when I know she's at my nannas I make me and my nanna a ham sandwhich and eat it slowly in front of her. I even tried to force some left over beef from my nannas sunday dinner down her throat before but my nanna went crazy because she started crying

[Niamh.]

I hate vegans.

My cousin is vegan so when I know she's at my nannas I make me and my nanna a ham sandwhich and eat it slowly in front of her. I even tried to force some left over beef from my nannas sunday dinner down her throat before but my nanna went crazy because she started cryingYou sound nice

[Cherie]

I rarely eat meat, mostly eat vegetarian but there are some meals that need a bit of meat like chicken curry, and no one is guilt tripping me into giving that up :laugh:

[Aaliyah]

You sound nice

If she wasn't so pushy I wouldn't be like that with her, I have a vegan friend and she respects that I eat meat daily and I respect she doesn't like it, she doesn't preach to me about any of it. My cousin, she's just a bitch who borks at the whole family for eating meat, honestly she'll get it from me one of these days.

[RileyH]

I hate vegans.

My cousin is vegan so when I know she's at my nannas I make me and my nanna a ham sandwhich and eat it slowly in front of her. I even tried to force some left over beef from my nannas sunday dinner down her throat before but my nanna went crazy because she started crying

If she wasn't so pushy I wouldn't be like that with her, I have a vegan friend and she respects that I eat meat daily and I respect she doesn't like it, she doesn't preach to me about any of it. My cousin, she's just a bitch who borks at the whole family for eating meat, honestly she'll get it from me one of these days.

bye afghajhajk

[Cherie]

If she wasn't so pushy I wouldn't be like that with her, I have a vegan friend and she respects that I eat meat daily and I respect she doesn't like it, she doesn't preach to me about any of it. My cousin, she's just a bitch who borks at the whole family for eating meat, honestly she'll get it from me one of these days.

:joker:

[JoshBB]

this whole thread has me :skull:

[Underscore]

I hate vegans.

We hate you too.

[Elliot]

I hate vegans.

My cousin is vegan so when I know she's at my nannas I make me and my nanna a ham sandwhich and eat it slowly in front of her. I even tried to force some left over beef from my nannas sunday dinner down her throat before but my nanna went crazy because she started crying

Omg this is sig worthy

[Marsh.]

so then what did you mean?

It was in direct response to what I quoted.

[Redway]

I really have no clue what you're saying, so be frank or don't bring it up at all. I don't think you understand how annoying it is trying to engage in a discussion over the internet, with someone who constantly expects you to read between the lines.

Show me where I disrespected anyone for eating meat?

I was being tongue-in-cheek about it being funny that a black guy would openly hate on chicken even if your individual country/community doesn’t dig chicken like that. It just sounds funny.

[Robodog]

Eating cigarettes is worse than smoking meat

[caprimint]

When Cameron was like "what the hell am I supposed to eat then?" :joker:

[The_Joker]

I hate vegans.

My cousin is vegan so when I know she's at my nannas I make me and my nanna a ham sandwhich and eat it slowly in front of her. I even tried to force some left over beef from my nannas sunday dinner down her throat before but my nanna went crazy because she started crying


Do you go to the zoo at weekends and force feed puppies to koala bears too?!

[The_Joker]

Eating cigarettes is worse than smoking meat
So chewing tobacco and smoked bacon is off the menu....

[Jessica.]

So chewing tobacco and smoked bacon is off the menu....

Yes