Producers hitting the panic button already? (Bringing back Save A Nominee / POV)

[Headie]

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What happened to "this series will have normal nominations and it will be clear how many noms are required from the start" ?

[Elliot]

Impact of losing anamelia?

[montblanc]

:skull:

[Headie]

All y'all saying it was rigged for Anamelia... watch this save Lewis G or Isaac every week with physical comps :skull:

[BBDodge]

Clueless twerps. If Endemol do find a new network they need a new production team too.

[Elliot]

Lewis g getting to the final off f this would be a fitting end to garbage c5 bb

[lewis111]

If it was just that it would be fine, but the public nominee and the continuing big coins and allowing people to buy power it’s just too much

[armand.kay]

get rid. Nobody ****ing asked for this just give us back to basics like we were promised

[supertv247]

No panic button here, this has been planned since before CBB was even on air.

[Headie]

get rid. Nobody ****ing asked for this just give us back to basics like we were promised

This is reminding me of Power Trip with all the unnecessary twists that affect noms/evictions.

They're trash for having a whole CBB with back to basics then reverting back to their messy ways for the civilian version. They really don't care about civilian BB.

[saiwong]

So Emma was trying to explain the Gamechanger for this week on BBBOTS.

is the following correct ?

housemates nominate and 5 housemates will be up

the public nomination makes the total 6

then the housemate with the most Big Coins has the option to save one of the 6 nominees

[MB.]

I mean, to me it sounds like they've actually thought out a coherent and consistent weekly format for the first time in many a series... sure, it's not quite the back to basics we were promised, but I'd absolutely take this over them introducing some new, different desperate twist each week

[Headie]

So Emma was trying to explain the Gamechanger for this week on BBBOTS.

is the following correct ?

housemates nominate and 5 housemates will be up

the public nomination makes the total 6

then the housemate with the most Big Coins has the option to save one of the 6 nominees

That's tragic... you could get 1 nom and be up wtf

[supertv247]

This is reminding me of Power Trip with all the unnecessary twists that affect noms/evictions.

They're trash for having a whole CBB with back to basics then reverting back to their messy ways for the civilian version. They really don't care about civilian BB.

There’s nothing messy about it? It’s the most consistent format C5 have ever had!

Housemates nominate on Sunday, the 2 or more housemates with the most votes face eviction, along with the viewers nominee.
Then the nominees, plus the richest housemate play the game changer on Tuesday, and the richest housemate decides which other housemates play to complete the 6.
Results on Wednesday’s show, eviction on Friday

[Oaker]

That's tragic... you could get 1 nom and be up wtf

Isn't this what you wanted during CBB? :laugh:

[Headie]

Isn't this what you wanted during CBB? :laugh:

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[Headie]

There’s nothing messy about it? It’s the most consistent format C5 have ever had!

Housemates nominate on Sunday, the 2 or more housemates with the most votes face eviction, along with the viewers nominee.
Then the nominees, plus the richest housemate play the game changer on Tuesday, and the richest housemate decides which other housemates play to complete the 6.
Results on Wednesday’s show, eviction on Friday

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BB13's was the most consistent and used the original format, this is just useless twists for no reason

[sungrass]

Clueless twerps. If Endemol do find a new network they need a new production team too.

So true - the production team are clueless. If Lewis G makes it to the end how boring - he is one dimensional, he has no layers - just wish they wouldnt meddle with it.

[supertv247]

So true - the production team are clueless. If Lewis G makes it to the end how boring - he is one dimensional, he has no layers - just wish they wouldnt meddle with it.

Can’t wait for week 3 when Tomasz replaces someone with Lewis G and then Lewis G is evicted :smug:

[Jack_]

tbf this has clearly been planned for a while (given all the talk of it being a game, and those teasers of the public having more of a say), and normal noms are still continuing

I like it! The only issues I have are A) it should have started this week, B) can they just give us the full US format instead and C) the viewer's nom is GREAT given it's VTS, but WHAT is the point since that person will NEVER, ever be evicted with VTE? :facepalm:

[Vicky.]

I will see how it works out before I judge.

Honestly, as long as its consistent, I am fine with the format changing somewhat. I just don't like when they appear to decide how noms and such will work based on who is up, with it varying from everyone with 1 up...everyone with 2 up...2+ with most up and 3+ with most up. With random 'twists' on top of this.

[BBDodge]

I will see how it works out before I judge.

Honestly, as long as its consistent, I am fine with the format changing somewhat. I just don't like when they appear to decide how noms and such will work based on who is up, with it varying from everyone with 1 up...everyone with 2 up...2+ with most up and 3+ with most up. With random 'twists' on top of this.

There's nothing consistent about something they've not done before.

[Rob!]

So Emma was trying to explain the Gamechanger for this week on BBBOTS.

is the following correct ?

housemates nominate and 5 housemates will be up

the public nomination makes the total 6

then the housemate with the most Big Coins has the option to save one of the 6 nominees

No.

Housemates will nominate as normal with the same format as seen in the last celeb series.
The nominated housemates and whoever is the richest will then face the task. The task will always be undertaken by 6 housemates so the richest will choose however many additional housemates are needed to take it up to 6.

[Vicky.]

There's nothing consistent about something they've not done before.

What I meant is that as long as its the same weekly. Rather than chopping and changing based on who the producers fancy being up..thought that was pretty obvious but clearly not.

[Rob!]

I mean presumably they’ve still got to fit shopping tasks AND tasks for housemates to earn money in as well so I guess we’re in for a busy few weeks :laugh:

[NotARylanFan]

No.

Housemates will nominate as normal with the same format as seen in the last celeb series.
The nominated housemates and whoever is the richest will then face the task. The task will always be undertaken by 6 housemates so the richest will choose however many additional housemates are needed to take it up to 6.

Given that's how they've clearly planned for it to work, a part of me is hoping the housemates ruin the plan and their nominations cause at least six people to be nominated.

[poppsywoppsy]

It seemed to me that the producers are going to throw everything they have got at this last series, just to make it memorable.

[ThatsMyUserName]

So true - the production team are clueless. If Lewis G makes it to the end how boring - he is one dimensional, he has no layers - just wish they wouldnt meddle with it.

Aren't they all one dimensional ? Now Anamelia has gone I couldn't pick any of them as my favourite. Isaac least favourite (obviously) !!

[pontyboi]

I mean, to me it sounds like they've actually thought out a coherent and consistent weekly format for the first time in many a series... sure, it's not quite the back to basics we were promised, but I'd absolutely take this over them introducing some new, different desperate twist each week

But it literally means every episode will be dominated by a task and its exhausting.

All we want is back to basics and live feed surely that's less effort than all of these set changes and twists?

[Eddie.]

Don't mind this actually....

[GoldHeart]

It seemed to me that the producers are going to throw everything they have got at this last series, just to make it memorable.

I'm not sure i like the sound of the game changer but we'll see

[Ammi]

...I don’t understand this...was this a BOTS thing..?...

[kingston]

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What happened to "this series will have normal nominations and it will be clear how many noms are required from the start" ?

No one said ‘normal’ nominations... I guess that’s just what you wanted to hear... They said the rules surrounding nominations would be clear... So far I don’t see how this twist isn’t a clear nominations rule...

If this were a one off twist I’d agree that they were clearly trying to manipulate... However it sounds as if this is planned to play out through the series...

[Cherie]

Impact of losing anamelia?

If they wanted to save her all they had to do was change the voting system to vts :skull:

[Elliot]

No one said ‘normal’ nominations... I guess that’s just what you wanted to hear... They said the rules surrounding nominations would be clear... So far I don’t see how this twist isn’t a clear nominations rule...

If this were a one off twist I’d agree that they were clearly trying to manipulate... However it sounds as if this is planned to play out through the series...

They literally promised multiple times it’d return to normal nominations and ‘back to basics’ lol

[Jake.]

I don’t really think it’s them hitting the panic button though. It’s not as if this sort of reveal is going to spark an increase in viewing figures.

[Cherie]

They literally promised multiple times it’d return to normal nominations and ‘back to basics’ lol

They did it with CBB and there was constant moaning about head to head evictions.

[Elliot]

They did it with CBB and there was constant moaning about head to head evictions.

And in multiple c4 series there were more than two people up for nomination at once so....

[Cherie]

And in multiple c4 series there were more than two people up for nomination at once so....

What’s your point...? Normal noms produce heads to heads also

[Garfie]

I will wait and see how it plays out before I come to a judgement about the gamechanger.

[annabelindabee]

complicated .

[Vanessa]

It sounds interesting, i think. Can't wait.

[Owen19]

tbf this has clearly been planned for a while (given all the talk of it being a game, and those teasers of the public having more of a say), and normal noms are still continuing

I like it! The only issues I have are A) it should have started this week, B) can they just give us the full US format instead and C) the viewer's nom is GREAT given it's VTS, but WHAT is the point since that person will NEVER, ever be evicted with VTE? :facepalm:

To be fair I can see Isaac coming at the bottom of the VTS but still topping a VTE

[kingston]

They literally promised multiple times it’d return to normal nominations and ‘back to basics’ lol

Not once did they say either of those things... If you want to convince me otherwise I suggest you dig up some quotes...

[Elliot]

Not once did they say either of those things... If you want to convince me otherwise I suggest you dig up some quotes...

several occasions in the run-up to Celebrity Big Brother 22, various news reports and Big Brother alumni hinted at the series going back to its roots, with less producer manipulation and a focus on the show as a social experiment.[5]

The shows' producers also met with several fansites to discuss the direction of the show, with it being heavily reported that the show will bring back weekly shopping tasks and a consistent nominations format.

Loving the weekly shopping tasks and consistent nomination format. Very back to roots

[kingston]

They did it with CBB and there was constant moaning about head to head evictions.

For what it's worth the nomination rules worked for CBB... It's just that there was little if any variation amongst HM's in who they nominated which resulted in a head to head contest every time...

[kingston]

several occasions in the run-up to Celebrity Big Brother 22, various news reports and Big Brother alumni hinted at the series going back to its roots, with less producer manipulation and a focus on the show as a social experiment.[5]

The shows' producers also met with several fansites to discuss the direction of the show, with it being heavily reported that the show will bring back weekly shopping tasks and a consistent nominations format.

Loving the weekly shopping tasks and consistent nomination format. Very back to roots

Not once does this mention 'normal' nominations or the words 'back to basics'... Also this is hardly a quote from a producer saying either of those things...

[Marsh.]

It's clearly been planned from the start. They said the coins would change the game all series.

Paul Osbourne didn't bullsh*t unlike the producer of BB17.

[Marsh.]

The shows' producers also met with several fansites to discuss the direction of the show

Asked them what they wanted back and they focussed on the small stuff like closed off stairs etc.

[kingston]

Asked them what they wanted back and they focussed on the small stuff like closed off stairs etc.

Did they say "back to basics" specifically? Or was this term coming from fan-sites?

[Marsh.]

Did they say "back to basics" specifically? Or was this term coming from fan-sites?

Nope. Just bringing back certain aspects that had been lost over the years.

[kingston]

Nope. Just bringing back certain aspects that had been lost over the years.

Thank you for proving what I've been saying all along...

[Marsh.]

They literally promised multiple times it’d return to normal nominations and ‘back to basics’ lol

They did for CBB and as usual.... everyone moaned.

They didn't promise "normal nominations" for civilian, they said "more consistent" as in they wouldn't change the rule/method of nomination every single week.

[kingston]

They did for CBB and as usual.... everyone moaned.

They didn't promise "normal nominations" for civilian, they said "more consistent" as in they wouldn't change the rule/method of nomination every single week.

“Normal” nominations weren’t promised for CBB either... They said the rule would be “more consistent” for that series too... People have just assumed that’s what they meant... Just like “back to basics”...

[Marsh.]

“Normal” nominations weren’t promised for CBB either... They said the rule would be “more consistent” for that series too... People have just assumed that’s what they meant... Just like “back to basics”...

Yes they did. Specifically diary room nominations and the two or more housemates with the most nominations would face eviction.

[kingston]

Yes they did. Specifically diary room nominations and the two or more housemates with the most nominations would face eviction.

From BBSPY:

There should finally be solid nominations criteria

After years of twist after twist after twist, will this finally be the series that the nominations process gets a much-needed simplification? We’re not entirely sure. Paul and Tamsin did say they prefer normal nominations, as they give you insight in to housemates that face-to-face nominations do not, but they did not give any assurances that there will be less twists this year – especially for the Celebrity version, noting that it’s harder when there’s two evictions per week.

However, there is another nominations bugbear they do intend on sorting. For years we’ve never quite known Channel 5’s formula for deciding who faces eviction; usually it’s any housemate that receives two or more nominations, but that isn’t always the case. This time, Paul says we’ll know the criteria right from the beginning.



Read more: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/cbb22/news/0806/exclusive-celebrity-big-brother-summer-2018-new-bosses-paul-osborne-tamsin-dodgson-spill-beans-what-to-expect-new-series#ixzz5RpprwGYW

[Marsh.]

So, you're using a fansite to try and "prove" the fansites are wrong?

Ok then... moving on.

[Marsh.]

From BBSPY:

That literally says what I said. Normal nominations = diary room and 2 or more with most votes face vote. Which they did.

[Vicky.]

They did for CBB and as usual.... everyone moaned.

They didn't promise "normal nominations" for civilian, they said "more consistent" as in they wouldn't change the rule/method of nomination every single week.

People will moan whatever. See they want normal nominations/a consistent format for nominations, but it this results in the wrong people being up...then they wants twists to ensure that the people that they want to be up are up. Basically. Producers can't win really.

[y.winter]

Where does it say that it's "and replace" - they only mention saving a housemate.

[Cherie]

For what it's worth the nomination rules worked for CBB... It's just that there was little if any variation amongst HM's in who they nominated which resulted in a head to head contest every time...


my point being that people got what they wanted, normal nominations and then moaned because their fave was up in a head to head, no matter what the producers do there seems to be constant moaning and negativity, the forum is dead because of it

[Marsh.]

People will moan whatever. See they want normal nominations/a consistent format for nominations, but it this results in the wrong people being up...then they wants twists to ensure that the people that they want to be up are up. Basically. Producers can't win really.

Exactly.

It's like VTS/VTE, they only want it when one results in their fave being evicted, then when the opposite evicts a good housemate too they never learn.

[Cherie]

People will moan whatever. See they want normal nominations/a consistent format for nominations, but it this results in the wrong people being up...then they wants twists to ensure that the people that they want to be up are up. Basically. Producers can't win really.

or what Vicky said.:hee:

[Headie]

So what happened to this "consistent and well thought out/well planned" format? Now they're changing it to TWO people with the fewest votes are up alongside the 2+ nominees.

Same old messiness as usual! Back to basics my ass!

[bots]

So what happened to this "consistent and well thought out/well planned" format? Now they're changing it to TWO people with the fewest votes are up alongside the 2+ nominees.

Same old messiness as usual! Back to basics my ass!

on the app it said the 2 hm's with the most votes will be saved .... thats different, no?

edit: haha ... they have changed the text of it since i voted ... what you say is true :laugh:

[TomC]

Although them changing it is annoying, it's a twist they're carrying on for the whole series so i don't mind as much, and at least she's telling us before the vote's taken place - i wouldn't put it past them to change it once they've seen who's at risk in the vote in previous seasons

[kingston]

I really don’t see why changing things up is such a bad thing... They’ve let us know ahead of The the vote what was happening and as production copped a lot of **** for head to head evictions in CBB22 it’s no wonder they’re giving us more nominees... This is really no different than when C4 would throw in a random vote to save...

[point17]

This is reminding me of Power Trip with all the unnecessary twists that affect noms/evictions.

They're trash for having a whole CBB with back to basics then reverting back to their messy ways for the civilian version. They really don't care about civilian BB.

Sve and replace started in bb11..

[Cal.]

At first I thought they might be doing two public nominees because next week would be a double eviction but apparently not which just makes it a bit unnecessary.

[BBDodge]

They made a mistake. The public only put 1 housemate up and the task winner saved that housemate rendering the whole process redundant.

Now the public put 2 up and at least 1 of them will stay up.

Which doesn't mean that the public will vote them out in a Vote To Evict.

[user104658]

They do not like or want head to head evictions. I don't think they thought this last one through at all as it inevitably generated a head to head... IMO it worked fairly well because "Lewis Vs Lewis" was kind of iconic, but for the most part, they want at least three up, so if they're going to continue doing "gamechanger" where one person is saved, they have to make it so that at least four are vulnerable.

[user104658]

Which doesn't mean that the public will vote them out in a Vote To Evict.

Interestingly I actually think that - other than maybe Isaac - it's UNlikely that the housemates who are bottom of the "vote to save" poll will end up going out in a "vote to evict" eviction. It'll be the less visible ones who go up as no one has bothered to vote for them, but no one will bother to vote to evict them either.

In the meantime, the housemates end up confused because "harmless" housemates are up for eviction and they can't figure out who nominated them.

I don't mind it as a twist. Twists to put extra people up are fine. I'm not such a big fan of twists where really unpopular housemates can end up being artificially saved from being at risk (immunity, etc.)

[Cherie]

I dont care, they can do what they like