Do you agree with Cameron about Kay?

[Elliot]

Poll coming, it has been revealed she attempted an escape through the fire door following a row with Cameron, saying she’s becoming Lewis g’s bi**h, do you agree?

[hijaxers]

Poll coming, it has been revealed she attempted an escape through the fire door following a row with Cameron, saying she’s becoming Lewis g’s bi**h, do you agree?

I wanna watch before i decide.

[Beso]

Yeah Elliot, let us talk it out first.......RUSHY.

[Epic.]

Obviously yes, Lewis G is a brand of housemate that's been used a few times and is the lowest of the low; the kind where the person has such a hideous personality that even COMMUNICATING with them enables their toxicity. I think that's also why Lewis F knows not to feed any attention to the little ****e

[BBDodge]

But not the way he said it.

[RileyH]

Absolutely not

[Oaker]

Yes

Kay saying she feels sorry for Lewis G is absurd

[Wizard.]

No, she is the people princess and he is a gang handed bully of a boy! He obviously thinks it’s okay to disrespect women by degrading her like that, she only has good intentions

[DanielM787]

Yes,

I personally don't like Kay and hope she leaves this week

[JoshBB]

He's ultimately right with the sentiment but the wording does come across misogynistic

[joeysteele]

Yes.
Bitch is a usually strong word but I think he used it appropriately.
She looked pathetic grinning while Lewis G was annoying most of the others.
Kay has crashed as to my opinion of her tonight.
Sadly.

I'm not that convinced by her drama either, in such a state then could converse perfectly in the diary room.
Sorry, she's now looking false to me.

[Niamh.]

I like Kay but she was annoying tonight

[montblanc]

mixed

saw his point but the comment was uncalled for and the way he reacted to her when she said she wasn’t appreciative of him saying that was awful

[rusticgal]

Did he call her Lewis g's bitch...?
I think he implied she looked like a bitch for laughing at his antics which were clearly meant to wind people up.
Kay is very niave...some people laugh in uncomfortable situations because they want to kill the atmosphere. However that's not why she was laughing..she was laughing because she thinks he is funny and likes that he has no filter...but there is a big difference in having no filter and deliberately trying to get a reaction from people for their own entertainment. She showed no sympathy or respect for the others who Lewis G was clearly winding up...she simply encouraged the twat and didn't like being pulled up on it.
Cameron was right...she looked like a bitch and she didn't like it. She didn't mean to be one IMO.

Maybe Kay should join a hippy commune...BB clearly isn't the place for her.

[bots]

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[Jase.]

Kay bitching about Cam on BOTS! Iconic feud incoming!

[rph]

Kay bitching about Cam on BOTS! Iconic feud incoming!

She needs to go!

[Elliot]

Kay bitching about Cam on BOTS! Iconic feud incoming!

Called it gonna be the next Kim vs Nicola

[rusticgal]

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The penny has dropped...:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

I'll say yes.

However as I've said on another thread I don't agree with this gang mentality in the house to try and stop Kay from being friends with Lewis G, he should be allowed to have friends. But yes I do feel that she's being an idiot for thinking that Lewis G likes Lewis F.

[Ant.]

Uhm, I agree with the message Cameron was going for (that Kay encourages him) although Cameron was wrong not apologising for calling her a bitch (they made up but I'm sure he didn't apologise and he failed to see how his comments could've been offensive and tried to justify it by saying 'oh well you're always gonna hear offensive things it's Big Brother!!)

so in terms of Lewis G he was right (altho she also agreed in aspects so Kay's also right?)
But in terms of his language, nah, he's wrong (and I'm not holding him accountable for saying 'his bitch' even tho it's offensive because I can appreciate he didn't mean offence but he just came across badly when he was incapable of admitting fault)

[Garfie]

I don't buy Kay's innocent, pure and all-loving persona. Like the fairy she describes herself as being, to me she isn't real. To say she is 'too nice and too good' for the BB house, suggests she is conceited and feels she is somehow better than others. And to say she is not used to a world where people talk about each other, is just nonsense, as it is part of human nature.

[Rufus]

mixed

saw his point but the comment was uncalled for and the way he reacted to her when she said she was appreciative of him saying that was awful

This. He could've worded it better.

[rionablue]

I agree with Cameron even though I dont particulary like him

[iRyan]

You horrid, horrid bunch

[Ammi]

...no I don’t agree with Cameron at all, not one bit..(..although I do understand the sentiment of it not being a great thing to encourage Lewis G in his childish behaviour..)...Kate is only seeing the best of him obviously...she did with Anamelia and she is with Lewis G...she’s consistent in her kind heart and positive energy and her belief in people...:lovedup:...she does though need to take on board the feelings of others who are being targeted by Lewis G...Lewis F being the main one atm now that Anamelia has gone and his conversation with her was done really well..she kept saying to him that she felt Lewis G liked him and it was just his way or something...but Lewis F doesn’t feel liked by Lewis G...none of Lewis G’s energy toward him is positive...whereas it is from him toward Kay...and she isn’t taking that on board also...and also dismissing the negative impact on the whole house...

...anyway...Cameron needs some self awareness I think...it was only yesterday that he and Isaac were in the pool and laughing at lewis G and his wind up ways...so he was being his bitch as well in that case...I mean let’s be fair and square...with all the negativity projected purposefully by Lewis G from the moment he stepped into the house...he was still one of the ones Cameron seemed to want to endear himself to in the miner’s task...he’s always seemed to be one of the ‘ladz’...and those ladz have included Lewis G, who has been the same persona throughout...now he’s feeling Lewis G isn’t so great in his behaviour ..?...so who does he call a bitch and who does he criticise...the person who is causing all the negativity...?...nope, he puts his label and criticisms on Kay....I keep thinking back to the vid that was posted and his views on women and equality...and I’m really not getting the vibe he has much respect for females at all...

[JerseyWins]

No way... I don't hate Cameron for it but it was pretty gross. God forbid someone sees the good in a person when no one else does (and being the only one with common sense in being CORRECT that Lewis G doesn't mean these things / isn't being malicious to people).

A sweetheart with a sense of humor, not someone's bitch :clap1:

I'd see peoples' points if Lewis G was going at people in a negative manner, name-calling etc., like legitimately putting people down but he's singing and having fun joking around with them and they even see what he's doing and still getting wound up over nothing :joker:

[Ammi]

No way... I don't hate Cameron for it but it was pretty gross. God forbid someone sees the good in a person when no one else does (and being the only one with common sense in being CORRECT that Lewis G doesn't mean these things / isn't being malicious to people).

A sweetheart with a sense of humor, not someone's bitch :clap1:

I'd see peoples' points if Lewis G was going at people in a negative manner, name-calling etc., like legitimately putting people down but he's singing and having fun joking around with them and they even see what he's doing and still getting wound up over nothing :joker:

..it’s starts to become irrelevant whether he has mean intentions or not when the impact of what he’s doing is causing his targets to be so miserable and ruining their time in the house..it completely dismisses the feelings of anyone but himself ...this is a one time experience for everyone and to purposefully spoil it for any individual because it’s a source of amusement to himself...?...is the most selfish mindset, really...BB by nature is a group thing and about respecting each other’s time in the house...especially when that person has done nothing to spoil his time in the house, which Lewis F hasn’t...


...he’s a selfish ass, Stephen Bear was a selfish ass ...because their game is to wind up specific individuals in the house...as oppose to Jedward for instance...who just wound up the whole house but they always felt bad if anyone was upset by their behaviour...the joke is only funny if people find it so and no one is atm...that’s when it starts to become nasty...

[JerseyWins]

..it’s starts to become irrelevant whether he has mean intentions or not when the impact of what he’s doing is causing his targets to be so miserable and ruining their time in the house..it completely dismisses the feelings of anyone but himself ...this is a one time experience for everyone and to purposefully spoil it for any individual because it’s a source of amusement to himself...?...is the most selfish mindset, really...BB by nature is a group thing and about respecting each other’s time in the house...especially when that person has done nothing to spoil his time in the house, which Lewis F hasn’t...


...he’s a selfish ass, Stephen Bear was a selfish ass ...because their game is to wind up specific individuals in the house...as oppose to Jedward for instance...who just wound up the whole house but they always felt bad if anyone was upset by their behaviour...the joke is only funny if people find it so and no one is atm...that’s when it starts to become nasty...
Yeah but all he did was sing "What's it gonna be, when you're up against me" ... they were waiting in a room with everyone quiet and his singing wasn't harmful, negative, demeaning towards anyone. It's a bit of entertainment to pass the time.

Also I disagree, I think Jedward fall in the same category as in if people found what they were doing annoying they still did it or did it even more as long as they weren't attacking the person. And no one in that house found their antics funny either. Lewis G's antics might be a bit more target-based but he hasn't attacked these people on a personal level or anything. He might seem a bit more careless towards people but he feels bad afterwards when people get upset too. :shrug:

[Ammi]

Yeah but all he did was sing "What's it gonna be, when you're up against me" ... they were waiting in a room with everyone quiet and his singing wasn't harmful, negative, demeaning towards anyone. It's a bit of entertainment to pass the time.

Also I disagree, I think Jedward fall in the same category as in if people found what they were doing annoying they still did it or did it even more as long as they weren't attacking the person. And no one in that house found their antics funny either. Lewis G's antics might be a bit more target-based but he hasn't attacked these people on a personal level or anything. He might seem a bit more careless towards people but he feels bad afterwards when people get upset too. :shrug:

...he only felt bad when he realised he’d annoyed Isaac so much ...and as Isaac said..’now you have no mates’...or something...the remorse he showed was once and only for himself because he realised he’d alienated an ‘ally’...let’s be real, Jersey...he targets individuals and pushes them to the limit with no regard for their house experience or that he’s ruining it...so long as he’s amused and having fun, that’s okay...and those individuals have done nothing to personally attempt to ruin his house experience....

[JerseyWins]

...he only felt bad when he realised he’d annoyed Isaac so much ...and as Isaac said..’now you have no mates’...or something...the remorse he showed was once and only for himself because he realised he’d alienated an ‘ally’...let’s be real, Jersey...he targets individuals and pushes them to the limit with no regard for their house experience or that he’s ruining it...so long as he’s amused and having fun, that’s okay...and those individuals have done nothing to personally attempt to ruin his house experience....
Gotta disagree completely, yeah he was having fun but his facial expressions and stuff change completely when people are upset and don't go back at him anymore.

Like he wants to have some banter with people for his own sake yes, but for example when Isaac mocked his laugh and said "not funny mate" or w/e, Lewis G suddenly got a serious/sad look on his face and just kinda put his head down and nodded like an acceptance that he'd gone too far. This was well before he even said "now you have no mates"

He has this type of reaction a lot when people don't bark back at him anymore and then he feels bad and apologizes to them :shrug: I don't see him as a bad person at all but instead someone who likes to mess with and joke with people a lot - and I don't think that's a problem personally or at least not as much as these housemates are making it out to be.

[bots]

yeah, i don't think lewis G is a bad person. He is intentionally winding them up, but it's never hateful, he never crosses "that" line.

[Vicky.]

I didn't really get his point to be quite honest, as he, Isaac and Akeem constantly massage Lewis Gs ego, are always laughing at him, encouraging him and that. But suddenly Kay is in the wrong for doing the exact same thing? Just because on this ONE occasion they decided that noone should find him funny :shrug:

[Lostie!]

In principle yes but his wording was harsh and I completely disagree with his suggestion that she's not as nice as she seems

[bots]

I didn't really get his point to be quite honest, as he, Isaac and Akeem constantly massage Lewis Gs ego, are always laughing at him, encouraging him and that. But suddenly Kay is in the wrong for doing the exact same thing? Just because on this ONE occasion they decided that noone should find him funny :shrug:

yeah exactly, Kay's reaction was next generation overboard though :laugh:

[Vicky.]

yeah exactly, Kay's reaction was next generation overboard though :laugh:
Oh for sure. I think she has her own game going on though, basically using tears to manipulate people. It was just too OTT to be genuine.

But I don't get why they were trying to browbeat Kay into going against Lewis. And Cameron..when he is constantly up Lewis Gs arsehole..moaning that Kay laughed at him, when usually he would be laughing along too.

[bots]

Oh for sure. I think she has her own game going on though, basically using tears to manipulate people. It was just too OTT to be genuine.

But I don't get why they were trying to browbeat Kay into going against Lewis. And Cameron..when he is constantly up Lewis Gs arsehole..moaning that Kay laughed at him, when usually he would be laughing along too.

it looks to me like he has serious issues against women. Time will tell if its true or not but i'm not liking what i'm seeing in him.

[Eddie.]

Yes even though I really like Kay she really needs to know the truth...

[TomC]

No, he was being a ****. Kay was just being vacant when she was laughing at him, it didn't mean anything.