Are you enjoying Cameron's pretendee "coming out" journey?

[Pro Sniper]

Boring, contrived shyte. His desperation to win is nauseating.

[Jordan.]

No

[rph]

Yes - i love a good soap opera

[BBDodge]

BB should wake the housemates up with Tom Robinson's big hit.

[Epic.]

Yes only because it's making Lewis F come across well

[rusticgal]

When he was talking to Lewis F and giving us no doubt as to what he was implying...I found it strange that his first thought was about his ex school friends...wouldn't it be about your family? Unless he has no relationship with his family it was bizarre...
It doesn't add up...does his family already know?..and he is using BB as a way of coming out to his friends?
Either way...it's his game plan...and I find it manipulative in order to get the sympathy vote.

[poppsywoppsy]

When he was talking to Lewis F and giving us no doubt as to what he was implying...I found it strange that his first thought was about his ex school friends...wouldn't it be about your family? Unless he has no relationship with his family it was bizarre...
It doesn't add up...does his family already know?..and he is using BB as a way of coming out to his friends?
Either way...it's his game plan...and I find it manipulative in order to get the sympathy vote.

Of course his family would love him to come out on National TV before telling them, wouldn't they? What an idiot!!!!

They most probably know but would have preferred it to come from him first.

[rionablue]

He is such a drip. He is trying to stay relevant and grab some airtime. If he is gay he is gay. Nothing to be dithering about. I am sure his family possibly already know.

[Maru]

Did he try to come out? I didn't notice. :laugh: I expected more, but he's falling flat for me... he doesn't seem to be that original of a thinker.

[rusticgal]

Of course his family would love him to come out on National TV before telling them, wouldn't they? What an idiot!!!!

They most probably know but would have preferred it to come from him first.


I think they know...this is his way of telling his friends and winning the show on the back of it would incriminate him from any backlash from them.

[Amy Jade]

No not at all

[ThatsMyUserName]

BB should wake the housemates up with Tom Robinson's big hit.

2-4-6-8 Motorway !!

[GoldHeart]

I think they know...this is his way of telling his friends and winning the show on the back of it would incriminate him from any backlash from them.

I find Cameron weird & awkward. I think even if he is gay his family will probably not reveal if they know or not .

It just doesn't add up . It's hardly a Kemal situation BB6 and Kemal was confused as he said he was bi then he said gay and now he's trans .

Cameron is being more Kryptic about it . Maybe he is trying to "play the game" .

[Mystic Mock]

Without meaning to be rude as I know that it can be a difficult process for gay people to come out to their friends and family, but I do agree with Pro Sniper that it feels like Cameron is scripting storylines for himself in his head, including his sexuality.

Tbf I could be wrong on that, but that's how it looks to me.

[wendywillow]

it seems very contrived, hard to believe he didn't come into the house thinking ill be honest or pretend im straight instead of this beating around the bush, first day he was asked about his sexuality and said 'I don't want to talk about it' setting this up , pretty smart tho, bots will eat it up

[GoldHeart]

Without meaning to be rude as I know that it can be a difficult process for gay people to come out to their friends and family, but I do agree with Pro Sniper that it feels like Cameron is scripting storylines for himself in his head, including his sexuality.

Tbf I could be wrong on that, but that's how it looks to me.

And judging by his feminist rant video on youtube where he accuses feminists of wanting all men to be gay , he pretty much confirmed he's straight . Unless i've interpreted that wrong .

[Ammi]

..I don’t know if his coming out on BB has any intentions in terms of a game plan as well...but even if that’s true...it wouldn’t make it any less of a journey, surely..?...and a huge thing for him...it’s just how he’s chosen to reveal it..and even then he seems to be wavering, not really knowing whether he will openly reveal it or no..I still find it quite heartbreaking in how agonising it must be for him..:sad:...

[bots]

..I don’t know if his coming out on BB has any intentions in terms of a game plan as well...but even if that’s true...it wouldn’t make it any less of a journey, surely..?...and a huge thing for him...it’s just how he’s chosen to reveal it..and even then he seems to be wavering, not really knowing whether he will openly reveal it or no..I still find it quite heartbreaking in how agonising it must be for him..:sad:...

watching his youtube video, he doesnt seem backward about expressing opinions (even if they are complete ****) so he hardly appears to be a shrinking violet. I know you missed the show last night, which for me just made it so obvious that he was playing a game and using this story line to garner sympathy.

I know Kay isn't particularly liked on here, and she has her own game plan to be fair, but she has him sussed out pretty clearly, including his lack of respect for women.

[Ammi]

watching his youtube video, he doesnt seem backward about expressing opinions (even if they are complete ****) so he hardly appears to be a shrinking violet. I know you missed the show last night, which for me just made it so obvious that he was playing a game and using this story line to garner sympathy.

I know Kay isn't particularly liked on here, and she has her own game plan to be fair, but she has him sussed out pretty clearly, including his lack of respect for women.

...oh I’m definately a little uncomfortable about his perception of women for sure...and I don’t think he’s a shrinking violet in any way...but that doesn’t change that he might be struggling though and has struggled with his sexuality and being open about it with family...those things aren’t really connected for me is all, bots...

[GoldHeart]

watching his youtube video, he doesnt seem backward about expressing opinions (even if they are complete ****) so he hardly appears to be a shrinking violet. I know you missed the show last night, which for me just made it so obvious that he was playing a game and using this story line to garner sympathy.

I know Kay isn't particularly liked on here, and she has her own game plan to be fair, but she has him sussed out pretty clearly, including his lack of respect for women.

But is that because you can't trick a trickster :whistle: , like you said she has her own game plan so maybe that's why she's figured him out .

But Cameron was deliberately loud about Kay in the hot tub , so whether that's to wind her up or what ? . In the store room when she pulled him up on it he didn't even own it he just made it sound like a general vent he was having with the guys . When we all know he was clearly bitching about Kay :bored: .

[Patricia4]

No

[Cherie]

It just doesn't ring true that his family doesn't know, his Dad was one of the stand out family members on launch night as he was hugging Cameron as if he hadn't seen him for years when it was just a few days, I think he has a good relationship with his Dad therefore I find it hard to believe he hasn't discussed his relationship with him.

[Ammi]

..I only have one personal life experience of someone I know who was reluctant to come out to his family, so I know it isn’t representative ...anyway, for this person...he didn’t come out with his family until his late twenties...even though some friends etc knew...and maybe his family knew as well for all I know but respected that they would leave him to his own time and way...he didn’t actually ever use words as such, but more he met someone and then that partner was just accepted into his family as his partner...

...he and his family could not have had a more close relationship and obviously who he was, was always going to be accepted...there was never any doubt at all...but for him in his own head...it was because his family were so wonderful in every way...and that was something he was feeling that he couldn’t give his parents...a family dynamic that they had given him...


...obviously he could, no matter the gender of his partner ..and obviously there could be children as well if that was something which was wanted...so the dynamic could be exactly the same...but these things are not always thought out completely in terms of the future...

[Crimson Dynamo]

who people want to shag is about as boring as listening to people droning on about dreams


:sleep:

[BBDodge]

who people want to shag is about as boring as listening to people droning on about dreams


:sleep:

There's the life work of Sigmund Freud down the drain, then.

[user104658]

To be fair, has he ever said that his family don't know? He's been droning on about "certain people" not knowing so it's possible that he IS already out to his family (or at least immediate family) but other people such as friends / extended family don't know.

Surely in this day and age, his school friends, at least, won't care? :think:

It does seem kind of put on TBH and I imagine he told all of the "important people" before he went in, specifically planning to announce to everyone else whilst in there.

[saiwong]

From what I've seen, I'm not buying Cameron's coming out story.

I don't buy someone coming out on national tv before telling his own family
I suspect his family already knows.

This could be his game-plan to have a 'journey' and come out on national tv and get the sympathy vote

[joeysteele]

Firstly, he can think it would be shown, however he has no idea that BB will be showing his conversations as to it.
Especially with Lewis G so loud in the house and I'd bet most think highlights of only an hours duration will be eaten up by Lewis Gs antics.

He's found in Lewis F a confidante of sorts.
If he wants to confirm he is gay, if that is what it is, maybe he feels more comfortable in the house away from the outside world, mixing with a more varied set of people who seem very open on things.

Still however for some, saying the word or confirming a sexuality preference, can remain hard to do.
Perhaps had Lewis F asked him outright if that was what he was trying to say, adding he'd be st his side when and if he wanted to confirm it.
Then Cameron may have jumped at that.

He's just looking for the easiest way for him to reveal or say something eating away at him.
Support not judgement, ridicule or condemnation is what he needs at this time

[user104658]

Firstly, he can think it would be shown, however he has no idea that BB will be showing his conversations as to it.
Especially with Lewis G so loud in the house and I'd bet most think highlights of only an hours duration will be eaten up by Lewis Gs antics.

He's found in Lewis F a confidante of sorts.
If he wants to confirm he is gay, if that us what it is, maybe he feels more comfortable in the house away from the outside world, mixing with a more varied set of people who seem very open on things.

Still however for some, saying the word or confirming a sexuality preference, can remain hard to do.
Perhaps had Lewis F asked him outright if that was what he was trying to say, adding he'd be st his side when and if he wanted to confirm it.
Then Cameron may have jumped at that.

He's just looking for the easiest way for him to reveal or say Something eating away at him.
Support not judgement, ridicule or condemnation is what he needs at this time

That's a possibility too Joey; he knows that he's basically coming out by making not-so-subtle allusions to it so is sort of "gently" telling everyone. It can be hard for some people to say the "actual words" even when they know they've basically already said it.

[smudgie]

He has nothing else to offer other than this storyline, and he is stretching it out.

[Clootie Dumpling]

He has nothing else to offer other than this storyline, and he is stretching it out.

That's my take on him, too, Smudgie.

[joeysteele]

That's a possibility too Joey; he knows that he's basically coming out by making not-so-subtle allusions to it so is sort of "gently" telling everyone. It can be hard for some people to say the "actual words" even when they know they've basically already said it.

Exactly TS.
The saying of the word with the full confirmation it brings can still be for many, the hardest part of the whole process.
You are spot on.

[sungrass]

Yes - i love a good soap opera

I cant stand him or the idea of using BB to come out.

[Crimson Dynamo]

urg the lanky streak of piss, when he inevitably dressed up as a woman he looked like one of then anorexic fashion models gone wrong


:yuk:

[Headie]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

So by doing this is he mocking gay young men and the struggles they go through?

what kind of self-loathing reverse homophobia do we have here?

[Jack_]

I am actually, it's another storyline we've never had before...18 years on and we can have a false assault accusation and a coming out story in the space of a month!

I have no reason to doubt him but if it is a gameplan then fair play, it's win win either way for me :shrug:

[Rob!]

I am actually, it's another storyline we've never had before...18 years on and we can have a false assault accusation and a coming out story in the space of a month!

I have no reason to doubt him but if it is a gameplan then fair play, it's win win either way for me :shrug:

If it IS a gameplan then it's the best I've ever seen in BB because I'm completely sold by it, but I really really don't think it is. People are very good at attaching cynicism to Big Brother and forgetting that everybody's story is completely different and that being in that house is very different to life on the outside.

[Jack_]

If it IS a gameplan then it's the best I've ever seen in BB because I'm completely sold by it, but I really really don't think it is. People are very good at attaching cynicism to Big Brother and forgetting that everybody's story is completely different and that being in that house is very different to life on the outside.

I totally agree, I always think the same when people chastise every showmance going for being fake, as if there's no possibility that two people could just happen to like each other after spending 24 hours a day in their company :joker:

I don't think it's a gameplan at all, my point was more 'if it is, who cares?' cause it'd be bloody brilliant one at that

[Daniel.]

Yh

[armand.kay]

I am actually, it's another storyline we've never had before...18 years on and we can have a false assault accusation and a coming out story in the space of a month!

I have no reason to doubt him but if it is a gameplan then fair play, it's win win either way for me :shrug:

Craig Coats says hi

[Jack_]

Craig Coats says hi

Craig came out on the show?

[lewys]

i'd rather see brooke shave sian's legs x

[Rob!]

Craig Coats says hi

Craig couldn't even admit he was in his interview and spent the entire time being beyond creepy to Anthony. It's not exactly the same thing. :laugh:

[Withano]

Think its interesting. I bet he brought up in the casting process that its something he would like to do. I dont think its fake, if i did i would be bored of it yeh, but it seems genuine.

[armand.kay]

Craig came out on the show?
He didn't exactly come out and say it but he went on a very similar journey. Also Kemal that same year did come out on the show.
Craig couldn't even admit he was in his interview and spent the entire time being beyond creepy to Anthony. It's not exactly the same thing. :laugh:

I never said it was exactly the same. Just drawing on similar stories from the past, while Craig didn't come out he still had a similar story and them trying to talk about it discreetly is also similar.

[y.winter]

Wait... Craig wasn't out?
This is honestly a revelation to me.
I've watched it 6 years ago so I don't remember if it came up - but I thought it was pretty obvious that he is. He could hardly hide his feels to Anthony, let alone his "gay" persona.

[Spoon]

There's the life work of Sigmund Freud down the drain, then.

:joker:

[poppsywoppsy]

I think Cameron feels he is Gay but whether he has done the deed is debatable.

It could be the reason behind his confusion.

[Vicky.]

I don't remember this Craig thing either...I thought he was openly gay. Pretty much all I remember of him is when he got anthony really pissed and tried to take advantage. And him doing some task where hes pregnant. And 'I DO IT IN A JOKING WAY!!!!'

[Twosugars]

I like him but the way he goes about it is odd.
There's no good pussyfooting around it on tv bc it is as good as full admission

[Adamw92]

I’m late to the party but no, not in the slightest