I am just coming out of my shell and now you have done this

[Cherie]

beginning to settle in and enjoy myself eh? LG left two weeks ago, and sorry to break it to you but it is a social experiment, people have not been put in just to suit you or your needs, where does he get his sense of entitlement from, its all about his experience and if he isn't getting that he makes everyones life hell

[Ammi]

...I don’t think he feels self entitlement as such, more paranoia and struggles to see beyond that paranoia ...

[Vanessa]

He has anxiety issues. But at least he admits he has flaws.

[Cherie]

...I don’t think he feels self entitlement as such, more paranoia and struggles to see beyond that paranoia ...

The way he has targetted people makes me wonder, he wants to surround himself with 'yes' people, never mind Hussein, LF really thinks he is the King

[Vanessa]

All these threads about Lewis popping up like mushrooms. He's the main talking point of the show. What would we talk about if he wasn't there? :smug::smug:

[Cherie]

He has anxiety issues. But at least he admits he has flaws.

What is he doing to address his flaws, nada, its all very well trotting out a list of flaws but he needs to start dealing with them

[Cherie]

All these threads about Lewis popping up like mushrooms. He's the main talking point of the show. What would we talk about if he wasn't there? :smug::smug:

Plenty, Hussein has just as many threads and like anyone who leaves someone always takes their place in the hls

[Ammi]

The way he has targetted people makes me wonder, he wants to surround himself with 'yes' people, never mind Hussein, LF really thinks he is the King

...hmmm no I don’t think he does think he’s king...anymore than any of the other oldies feel a little ownership of the house over the newbies...he’s too aware of his insecurities and issues to think he’s any type of king..I think it’s more that he’d like to be surrounded by ‘good vibe’ people who wouldn’t enhance his paranoia and anxiety etc...but those people don’t exist though because it’s how he’s perceiving actions and behaviour..the perfect ‘yes person’ would fall under his suspicion, I think...and still drive his insecurities...’omg, why are they saying yes to everything...can you please STOp this BB...what are you doing to me..!!!!’...I wish it was funny but it’s not because that guy is really struggling imo...

[Vanessa]

...hmmm no I don’t think he does think he’s king...anymore than any of the other oldies feel a little ownership of the house over the newbies...he’s too aware of his insecurities and issues to think he’s any type of king..I think it’s more that he’d like to be surrounded by ‘good vibe’ people who wouldn’t enhance his paranoia and enxiety etc...but those people don’t exist though because it’s how he’s perceiving actions and behaviour..the perfect ‘yes person’ would fall under his suspicion, I think...and still drive his insecurities...’omg, why are they saying yes to everything...can you please STOp this BB...what are you doing to me..!!!!’...I wish it was funny but it’s not because that guy is really struggling imo...

You actually understand Lewis very well. :love:

[Cherie]

...hmmm no I don’t think he does think he’s king...anymore than any of the other oldies feel a little ownership of the house over the newbies...he’s too aware of his insecurities and issues to think he’s any type of king..I think it’s more that he’d like to be surrounded by ‘good vibe’ people who wouldn’t enhance his paranoia and anxiety etc...but those people don’t exist though because it’s how he’s perceiving actions and behaviour..the perfect ‘yes person’ would fall under his suspicion, I think...and still drive his insecurities...’omg, why are they saying yes to everything...can you please STOp this BB...what are you doing to me..!!!!’...I wish it was funny but it’s not because that guy is really struggling imo...

Nah not buying it, he is coming across as a spoilt brat, its all about him and on one else

[Kazanne]

He admitted he is paranoid,there can be many reasons for this ,I don't think it makes him a bad person ,just complex,fascinating and a good housemate

[joeysteele]

...hmmm no I don’t think he does think he’s king...anymore than any of the other oldies feel a little ownership of the house over the newbies...he’s too aware of his insecurities and issues to think he’s any type of king..I think it’s more that he’d like to be surrounded by ‘good vibe’ people who wouldn’t enhance his paranoia and anxiety etc...but those people don’t exist though because it’s how he’s perceiving actions and behaviour..the perfect ‘yes person’ would fall under his suspicion, I think...and still drive his insecurities...’omg, why are they saying yes to everything...can you please STOp this BB...what are you doing to me..!!!!’...I wish it was funny but it’s not because that guy is really struggling imo...



As ever a fair and reasoned look at an individual.
With no judgemental tones to it.

He does get paranoid and I genuinely believe he thinks Hussain, (who is acting up, as Hussain's Mother on bbbots on the phone last night, inferred Hussain was not being himself in there), has been put there just to get at him and make his time more uncomfortable.

That will increase his anxiety issues obviously.
It's both good viewing and sad viewing in part too.
Where it all goes we will soon see I guess.

[joeysteele]

He admitted he is paranoid,there can be many reasons for this ,I don't think it makes him a bad person ,just complex,fascinating and a good housemate

Absolutely right again Kazanne.
I haven't seen anything bad surface at all as to Lewis.
Nothing at all.

[LemonJam]

I mean it's a man that's bothering him so I guess he's gonna have some trouble confronting him :(

[fred7853]

...hmmm no I don’t think he does think he’s king...anymore than any of the other oldies feel a little ownership of the house over the newbies...he’s too aware of his insecurities and issues to think he’s any type of king..I think it’s more that he’d like to be surrounded by ‘good vibe’ people who wouldn’t enhance his paranoia and anxiety etc...but those people don’t exist though because it’s how he’s perceiving actions and behaviour..the perfect ‘yes person’ would fall under his suspicion, I think...and still drive his insecurities...’omg, why are they saying yes to everything...can you please STOp this BB...what are you doing to me..!!!!’...I wish it was funny but it’s not because that guy is really struggling imo...

In my day we didnt call people like Lewis psycho cases, or entitled, we called them spoilt brats that needed their legs skelping every time they threw a tantrum. The mans a mess. Admitting your a mess does not make it better, it actually makes it worse. He thinks BB is there to serve his needs and thats really worrying as he is seriously deluded.

[Vanessa]

I mean it's a man that's bothering him so I guess he's gonna have some trouble confronting him :(

Hussain was trying hard to get him to snap. But it didn't work. I was glad that Lewis stayed calm. If he has reacted everyone would' be calling him aggressive or worse.

[Kazanne]

I mean it's a man that's bothering him so I guess he's gonna have some trouble confronting him :(

Annamelia was more of a man than Lewis G ever was,(if that's what people are alluding to )plus I thought we were all equal nowadays, or is it only different when it suits :shrug:

[Vanessa]

Annamelia was more of a man than Lewis G ever was,plus I thought we were all equal nowadays :shrug:

The moment lewis reacts, there will be full of lewis is aggressive threads. He can't win!

[Cherie]

I mean it's a man that's bothering him so I guess he's gonna have some trouble confronting him :(

pretty much

[bots]

with respect, the guy has mental problems. I don't see it as entertainment at all. I remember the first week where he was so unstable he was shaking with rage at Anamelia. The guy is unstable and potentially dangerous, particularly to the other female housemates. He shouldn't be in the house

[joeysteele]

with respect, the guy has mental problems. I don't see it as entertainment at all. I remember the first week where he was so unstable he was shaking with rage at Anamelia. The guy is unstable and potentially dangerous, particularly to the other female housemates. He shouldn't be in the house


Oh for goodness sake, where has he ever appeared potentially dangerous, actually to anyone.
What on earth are you inferring there as to his character..
Crikey thank goodness there isn't a type like Roxanne Pallet in there then.

He gets paranoid, in that most housemates on BB too in some way in all series.
However he has anxiety problems, that doesn't make him dangerous.

[LemonJam]

Annamelia was more of a man than Lewis G ever was,(if that's what people are alluding to )plus I thought we were all equal nowadays, or is it only different when it suits :shrug:

I'm a bit confused with the point you're making here? Anamelia, Kay, Kenaley and Brooke have all been confronted by Lewis now. When given times to confront Lewis G, Isaac and now Hussain he's run back with his tail between his legs saying they make him feel uncomfortable. People don't seem to want to admit it but there's a pattern.

[Cherie]

with respect, the guy has mental problems. I don't see it as entertainment at all. I remember the first week where he was so unstable he was shaking with rage at Anamelia. The guy is unstable and potentially dangerous, particularly to the other female housemates. He shouldn't be in the house

The way he was breathing last night to calm himself down over the sausages was a bit :umm2:

[Cherie]

I'm a bit confused with the point you're making here? Anamelia, Kay, Kenaley and Brooke have all been confronted by Lewis now. When given times to confront Lewis G, Isaac and now Hussain he's run back with his tail between his legs saying they make him feel uncomfortable. People don't seem to want to admit it but there's a pattern.

:clap1: He didn't want to give them airtime apparently

[joeysteele]

The moment lewis reacts, there will be full of lewis is aggressive threads. He can't win!

Probably he can't.

It's clear to me, the sausage thing which was humorous to watch and in the end when he calmed, he laughed at himself about.
That's not someone dangerous.

It wasn't just about sausages however. He wrongly thinks Hussain has been put in to wind him up and ruin his time in there.
It was the Hussain issue more than just about sausages that triggered his anxious thinking.

It's astounding someone like Hussain going in causing not just him, but others to get their backs up from his first minutes in the house too, gets praised while Lewis gets condemned for near every little thing.
It's near unbelievable.

Hating Lewis but liking Hussain, wow, that speaks volumes.

[Cherie]

Probably he can't.

It's clear to me, the sausage thing which was humorous to watch and in the end when he calmed, he laughed at himself about.
That's not someone dangerous.

It wasn't just about sausages however. He wrongly thinks Hussain has been put in to wind him up and ruin his time in there.
It was the Hussain issue more than just about sausages that triggered his anxious thinking.

It's astounding someone like Hussain going in causing not just him, but others to get their backs up from his first minutes in the house too, gets praised while Lewis gets condemned for near every little thing.
It's near unbelievable.

Hating Lewis but liking Hussain, wow, that speaks volumes.

Please do enlighten us, what does it tell you?

[joeysteele]

Probably he can't.

It's clear to me, the sausage thing which was humorous to watch and in the end when he calmed, he laughed at himself about.
That's not someone dangerous.

It wasn't just about sausages however. He wrongly thinks Hussain has been put in to wind him up and ruin his time in there.
It was the Hussain issue more than just about sausages that triggered his anxious thinking.

It's astounding someone like Hussain going in causing not just him, but others to get their backs up from his first minutes in the house too, gets praised while Lewis gets condemned for near every little thing.
It's near unbelievable.

Hating Lewis but liking Hussain, wow, that speaks volumes.

Please do enlighten us, what does it tell you?


.I'll leave that for you to work out.
It shouldn't really be that difficult.

[Elliot]

They are different housemates entirely

Lewis - people pleaser and cliquey **** who only antagonises women

Hussain - pokes at the wasp nest

They’re not really the same

[Cherie]

[QUOTE=Cherie;10277056]


.I'll leave that for you to work out.
It shouldn't really be that difficult.

No I have no idea at all I am afraid

[Cherie]

They are different housemates entirely

Lewis - people pleaser and cliquey **** who only antagonises women

Hussain - pokes at the wasp nest

They’re not really the same

Yes that is how I read it as well, Hussain is a bit of a stirrer but he is honest about it, not running to the DR every two minues and needing to be calmed down over missing sausages

[armand.kay]

Annamelia was more of a man than Lewis G ever was,(if that's what people are alluding to )plus I thought we were all equal nowadays, or is it only different when it suits :shrug:

what does this even mean? lol

[Amy Jade]

I'm a bit confused with the point you're making here? Anamelia, Kay, Kenaley and Brooke have all been confronted by Lewis now. When given times to confront Lewis G, Isaac and now Hussain he's run back with his tail between his legs saying they make him feel uncomfortable. People don't seem to want to admit it but there's a pattern.

Exactly!

People are wearing 'omg hes good looking' tinted glasses while viewing his behaviour.

[Niamh.]

Just a reminder for people to stick to discussing HMs and not eachother

[Amy Jade]

No I have no idea at all I am afraid

:laugh:

[poppsywoppsy]

Exactly!

People are wearing 'omg hes good looking' tinted glasses while viewing his behaviour.

Can you tell me where these glasses are available, please?

[mr rochester]

Victim of poor/inconsistent parenting. It’s all about him and the world at large is his transgressor...

[Niamh.]

I mean it's a man that's bothering him so I guess he's gonna have some trouble confronting him :(

mmm I do like Lewis for the most part but I still can't get past how he treated kay on that last night

[Lostie!]

All these threads about Lewis popping up like mushrooms. He's the main talking point of the show. What would we talk about if he wasn't there? :smug::smug:

Kay was a big talking point and you wanted her out so you should get that someone being central to the drama doesn't always mean you're enjoying them

[susie q]

Oh for goodness sake, where has he ever appeared potentially dangerous, actually to anyone.
What on earth are you inferring there as to his character..
Crikey thank goodness there isn't a type like Roxanne Pallet in there then.

He gets paranoid, in that most housemates on BB too in some way in all series.
However he has anxiety problems, that doesn't make him dangerous.

You dont have to hit someone, to be abusive or dangerous . His treatment of Kaye was pretty bad, he:fist: picked at her insecurities quite mercilessly, and was clearly delighted when she walked. In my opinion she struggled equally as much as lewis, yet got no sympathy from this forum or the BBOTs team. She wasnt a bad person either, so can only assume the lack of sympathy was because she was female. Lewis engages in the sort of abuse that leaves no bruises, and the only scars will be the invisible pyschological ones. Its also hard to prove, hes intelligent enough to know that, and thats what makes him dangerous.

[RileyH]

All these threads about Lewis popping up like mushrooms.

Because you're making 80% of the ****ers

[Vanessa]

You dont have to hit someone, to be abusive or dangerous . His treatment of Kaye was pretty bad, he:fist: picked at her insecurities quite mercilessly, and was clearly delighted when she walked. In my opinion she struggled equally as much as lewis, yet got no sympathy from this forum or the BBOTs team. She wasnt a bad person either, so can only assume the lack of sympathy was because she was female. Lewis engages in the sort of abuse that leaves no bruises, and the only scars will be the invisible pyschological ones. Its also hard to prove, hes intelligent enough to know that, and thats what makes him dangerous.
Kay was no innocent little victim. She had wanted to leave for ages and kept going on and on at lewis until he snapped.

[Matthew.]

Kay is the definition of innocence and purity :love:

[Vanessa]

Kay is the definition of innocence and purity :love:

Not when it came to Lewis. She was like a dog with a bone with him.

[armand.kay]

Kay is the definition of innocence and purity :love:

Too innocent and pure for this toxic house.

[Cherie]

You dont have to hit someone, to be abusive or dangerous . His treatment of Kaye was pretty bad, he:fist: picked at her insecurities quite mercilessly, and was clearly delighted when she walked. In my opinion she struggled equally as much as lewis, yet got no sympathy from this forum or the BBOTs team. She wasnt a bad person either, so can only assume the lack of sympathy was because she was female. Lewis engages in the sort of abuse that leaves no bruises, and the only scars will be the invisible pyschological ones. Its also hard to prove, hes intelligent enough to know that, and thats what makes him dangerous.

Great post Susie :clap1:

[Cherie]

Not when it came to Lewis. She was like a dog with a bone with him.

How so? on that last evening he asked her is she wanted to speak about the evening before, and when she said she just wanted to move one, he harangued her mercilessly, standing over her at the end to make whatever point he felt was important to make.

The previous night all she asked him was 'was he sulking' and that earned her a rant about her sanity

[joeysteele]

You dont have to hit someone, to be abusive or dangerous . His treatment of Kaye was pretty bad, he:fist: picked at her insecurities quite mercilessly, and was clearly delighted when she walked. In my opinion she struggled equally as much as lewis, yet got no sympathy from this forum or the BBOTs team. She wasnt a bad person either, so can only assume the lack of sympathy was because she was female. Lewis engages in the sort of abuse that leaves no bruises, and the only scars will be the invisible pyschological ones. Its also hard to prove, hes intelligent enough to know that, and thats what makes him dangerous.

I don't define dangerous the way you do.

He is not on any evidence nor has been, a danger to the females in the house.
If you call annoying them or irritating them a danger then that's sad.

Kay wound a few up in there too, not just Lewis, hence her nominations.

My gripe in the main with Kay was her constant threatening to walk, from the very first week almost too, then not doing so until later on.

I actually liked Kay at the start but I really get annoyed at housemates threatening to walk regularly, then taking a fair while to get round to doing so.

[Amy Jade]

Can you tell me where these glasses are available, please?

On your face?

[poppsywoppsy]

On your face?

Sorry, wrong answer:nono:

[poppsywoppsy]

You dont have to hit someone, to be abusive or dangerous . His treatment of Kaye was pretty bad, he:fist: picked at her insecurities quite mercilessly, and was clearly delighted when she walked. In my opinion she struggled equally as much as lewis, yet got no sympathy from this forum or the BBOTs team. She wasnt a bad person either, so can only assume the lack of sympathy was because she was female. Lewis engages in the sort of abuse that leaves no bruises, and the only scars will be the invisible pyschological ones. Its also hard to prove, hes intelligent enough to know that, and thats what makes him dangerous.

This has connortations of the last CBB.

Not good.

[armand.kay]

All these threads about Lewis popping up like mushrooms. He's the main talking point of the show. What would we talk about if he wasn't there? :smug::smug:

sis you're making half of them

[susie q]

Great post Susie :clap1:

Thanks

[Mystic Mock]

beginning to settle in and enjoy myself eh? LG left two weeks ago, and sorry to break it to you but it is a social experiment, people have not been put in just to suit you or your needs, where does he get his sense of entitlement from, its all about his experience and if he isn't getting that he makes everyones life hell

Yeah I don't get the entitled attitude of every Housemate having to be to his personal liking.

BB's job should be testing all of their Housemates with people that aren't like them, including Lewis F and he should've known this was gonna be a possibility when he signed up to do the show.

[Mystic Mock]

Exactly!

People are wearing 'omg hes good looking' tinted glasses while viewing his behaviour.

Oh god not the John James effect again.:bored::joker:

Tbf Lewis F was a good Housemate before getting too involved with Cameron imo.