Opinions on Akeem's treatment in the house?

[Ant.]

Tbh it's been very uncomfortable to watch. Like it's not even jokingly, it's clearly spiteful, yet no one seems to mind it? Akeem's seemed to not mind it but I think it's apparent it's starting to get to him

What are your thoughts on it?

[Elliot]

I feel exactly the same way. It’ll provoke a very strong negative reaction from me if he gets evicted tomorrow. The bullies and scum win

[Elliot]

Everyone on twitter is commenting on how they feel uncomfortable too :clap1:

[Vicky.]

I don't get peoples issue with him at all. Either they are all getting at him for no reason, or theres a hell of a lot that we haven't been shown that would explain the animosity. But honestly, from what we have seen it seems a bit like he is being picked on. But he can handle himself anyway so thats not a worry as such. I do think theres a large chance of Lewis getting very pissed again and actually swinging for him. Anger issues.

[Amy Jade]

In the task room I couldn't work out if it was just banter but I think Lewis and Cameron were being rude, Akeem was trying really hard and they both talked down to him so much.

It wasn't nice to watch at all

[Ant.]

Everyone on twitter is commenting on how they feel uncomfortable too :clap1:

Good!
And in response to your above comment, precisely :clap1: it's gonna give Lewis, Cameron, and Tomasz so much satisfaction and I don't look forward to it

I don't get peoples issue with him at all. Either they are all getting at him for no reason, or theres a hell of a lot that we haven't been shown that would explain the animosity. But honestly, from what we have seen it seems a bit like he is being picked on. But he can handle himself anyway so thats not a worry as such. I do think theres a large chance of Lewis getting very pissed again and actually swinging for him. Anger issues.

Yeah Lewis is too volatile :worry:
From a few of the noms he got it was sorta apparent he must be doing something to provoke some tension, but I find it interesting how we've seen nothing offensive from Akeem, and I don't see BB pushing for an Akeem win, so I wonder if, and in which case why, they'd edit out some of his less favourable moments

In the task room I couldn't work out if it was just banter but I think Lewis and Cameron were being rude, Akeem was trying really hard and they both talked down to him so much.

It wasn't nice to watch at all

Yeah, Cameron and Lewis bitching about Akeem, plus the fact they seemed genuinely angry with him, made me realise how serious it is

[rusticgal]

They have ALL bitched about Akeem from day one...led by Thomasz and Cameron...
Then when Lewis argues with him...it's ALL Lewis's fault :shrug:
Cameron's comment to Akeem in the task room was out of order when he said Akeem was picked because he is going on Friday...uncalled for.
Thomasz has slagged off Akeem since day one, behind his back apart from week one when he called Akeem a liar time and time again to his face when he said he was game playing.
They have all nominated him for the last 3 weeks...
Tonight was fuelled by drink and if I'm honest I found it hard to understand what either were talking about...

[Vicky.]

I think the hatred comes from when he was coin leader tbh. That got a bee in Tomasz bonnet which still hasn't left despite Akeem not being top for a while now, and Tomasz has been dropping poison, which has led to the treatment of Akeem that we see.

In short, I don't think its anything Akeems actually done, I think its Tomasz' random hatred of him.

Though I could be wrong of course.

[rionablue]

Tbh it's been very uncomfortable to watch. Like it's not even jokingly, it's clearly spiteful, yet no one seems to mind it? Akeem's seemed to not mind it but I think it's apparent it's starting to get to him

What are your thoughts on it?

I think Akeem acted a bit self righeous and smug when he was top of the leader board in the coin department and that got some of the housemates backs up making them want to take him down a peg or two. Hes a nice enough lad but I find it hard to warm to him

That being said Lewis and Cameron were totally wrong tonight Lewis despised Lewis G then started disliking Hussain and in the past week or so its Akeem. He is a train wreck at the moment. I certainly did find it very uncomfortable to watch.

[Jack_]

It's a weird one. Akeem is your stereotypical "nice guy" but I can definitely understand how some of the smugness must get annoying? Like, that whole laminate charade and then apologising to Isaac right after nominations had ended (which was HILARIOUS btw) were such transparent Good Guy moves. And the stuff like whistling and thinking out loud would probably annoy me too...

I think the stuff in the task room is banter though, he joins in and all three of them are laughing. They get on for the most part but alcohol and a few underlying issues and that's where the argument stemmed from

[Nancy.]

I have to say, Cameron seems to be getting worse with Akeem. I didn't like him pulling faces and making snidey comments while he was speaking to Issy in the tub. It reminded me of the school playground and I was quite disappointed in Cameron, tbh. Lewis basically told Akeem to stop prattling on like lads often do when they're drunk, but Cameron pulls Akeem to bits when he's sober.... much like Tomasz does and I don't like that.

[BBDodge]

He's not topped the leader board in over a week but he still acts like he runs the house.

[Robertocarlo]

In the task room I couldn't work out if it was just banter but I think Lewis and Cameron were being rude, Akeem was trying really hard and they both talked down to him so much.

It wasn't nice to watch at all

Totally agree, especially Cameron who picks on Akeem at every opportunity the spoiled brat!

[Vicky.]

I do think that even though Lewis was overly aggressive tonight, Cameron behaves much worse. Yeah Lewis argued, but Cameron just pick pick picks all the ****ing time.

[Nancy.]

I do think that even though Lewis was overly aggressive tonight, Cameron behaves much worse. Yeah Lewis argued, but Cameron just pick pick picks all the ****ing time.

:clap1: Yes, he can't seem to go a day without having a go at Akeem and he seems to be getting worse.

[tanussa]

in the task akeem did seem to take the unappointed leader roll. couldnt work out why he seemed to be in charge all the time. ever since he was top of the leader board he acts as if hes top dog. I think that had to wind lewis & cameron up & it did appear the thinkers had been drinking wine all day through into the evening, so a lot of that was booze induced. something BB craftily do to stir up a good storyline, get the HMs drunk.

[rusticgal]

I think Akeem acted a bit self righeous and smug when he was top of the leader board in the coin department and that got some of the housemates backs up making them want to take him down a peg or two. Hes a nice enough lad but I find it hard to warm to him

That being said Lewis and Cameron were totally wrong tonight Lewis despised Lewis G then started disliking Hussain and in the past week or so its Akeem. He is a train wreck at the moment. I certainly did find it very uncomfortable to watch.


Both Lewis G and Hussein deliberately set out to wind Lewis F up for no reason...if someone did that to you wouldn't you dislike them too?

[rusticgal]

in the task akeem did seem to take the unappointed leader roll. couldnt work out why he seemed to be in charge all the time. ever since he was top of the leader board he acts as if hes top dog. I think that had to wind lewis & cameron up & it did appear the thinkers had been drinking wine all day through into the evening, so a lot of that was booze induced. something BB craftily do to stir up a good storyline, get the HMs drunk.


Yes exactly...why did they let them drink wine during a task?

[Amy Jade]

I agree even though the big argument was Akeem v Lewis I blame Cameron for most of the nastiness.

He was egging Lewis on and both he and Akeem were drunk (not that it is an excuse but most people are a bit ott when they have had a drink) wheras Cameron doesnt drink so his actions were pretty shady imo

[Mystic Mock]

Both Lewis G and Hussein deliberately set out to wind Lewis F up for no reason...if someone did that to you wouldn't you dislike them too?

The problem for Lewis F is that he has had issues with Lewis G, Hussain, Anamelia, Kay, Tomasz, Isaac, and now it's Akeem.

How many more people can Lewis F take on until the public realise that he is the problem?

[rusticgal]

The problem for Lewis F is that he has had issues with Lewis G, Hussain, Anamelia, Kay, Tomasz, Isaac, and now it's Akeem.

How many more people can Lewis F take on until the public realise that he is the problem?


He will take on whoever he has a legitimate problem with...do we really want to watch the likes of Zoe, Cian, Tomasz, Sian who have problems with other housemates but just make sly comments with their besties and not confront the issue?...I don't.

[Garfie]

I think the dislike of Akeem did begin when he had the most big coins, as it isn't obvious that he is doing anything else worth mentioning to antagonise others so much.

Tomasz and Cameron did have the initial dislike of Akeem, because they believed him to be a game player. However, Tomasz's relationship seems to have improved greatly with Akeem- even when he voted for him this week, his reason was something like he knew he would beat Tomasz in a physical challenge. He can't be blamed for others' dislike of Akeem as they all have their own minds.

Lewis and Cameron were definitely pushing and provoking Akeem today, and both seemed pretty unpleasant- they are clearly feeding off each other in their targetting of him.

My view of Lewis has been deteriorating as the weeks have gone by, but I've tried to be understanding as he clearly has some issues. However, his behaviour tonight has made me feel enough is enough.

Lewis definitely has some good characteristics, but his negative traits are now seriously outweighing any positives for me. I'm now finding it difficult to see him as anything more than an unpleasant messed up little man, who seems to develop extreme hatred of some people well out of proportion to anything they've done.

I do wonder if people would have been so tolerant of him for so long if he had looked like Tomasz?

[Garfie]

The problem for Lewis F is that he has had issues with Lewis G, Hussain, Anamelia, Kay, Tomasz, Isaac, and now it's Akeem.

How many more people can Lewis F take on until the public realise that he is the problem?

This sums up where I'm at with Lewis now.

[Garfie]

I agree even though the big argument was Akeem v Lewis I blame Cameron for most of the nastiness.

He was egging Lewis on and both he and Akeem were drunk (not that it is an excuse but most people are a bit ott when they have had a drink) wheras Cameron doesnt drink so his actions were pretty shady imo

Every individual is responsible for their own actions though, and Cameron cannot be blamed for Lewis' choice of actions in the pool, no more than Lewis can be excused as he'd been drinking. In all honesty, Lewis yet again displayed behaviour that he's been guilty of on far too many occasions before.

[Mystic Mock]

He will take on whoever he has a legitimate problem with...do we really want to watch the likes of Zoe, Cian, Tomasz, Sian who have problems with other housemates but just make sly comments with their besties and not confront the issue?...I don't.

My point being is that he has issues with a lot of the Housemates, I mean the way that he spoke to Isabella in that episode was appalling imo.

And I'm not saying that I want Lewis F to be evicted, but I do strongly dislike how he sees himself as a saint and how it's even being encouraged by the show for the public to see him in that light, it's just not healthy the way that he behaves imo.

[Mystic Mock]

I think the dislike of Akeem did begin when he had the most big coins, as it isn't obvious that he is doing anything else worth mentioning to antagonise others so much.

Tomasz and Cameron did have the initial dislike of Akeem, because they believed him to be a game player. However, Tomasz's relationship seems to have improved greatly with Akeem- even when he voted for him this week, his reason was something like he knew he would beat Tomasz in a physical challenge. He can't be blamed for others' dislike of Akeem as they all have their own minds.

Lewis and Cameron were definitely pushing and provoking Akeem today, and both seemed pretty unpleasant- they are clearly feeding off each other in their targetting of him.

My view of Lewis has been deteriorating as the weeks have gone by, but I've tried to be understanding as he clearly has some issues. However, his behaviour tonight has made me feel enough is enough.

Lewis definitely has some good characteristics, but his negative traits are now seriously outweighing any positives for me. I'm now finding it difficult to see him as anything more than an unpleasant messed up little man, who seems to develop extreme hatred of some people well out of proportion to anything they've done.

I do wonder if people would have been so tolerant of him for so long if he had looked like Tomasz?

It seems like we've both gone through the same journey with Lewis F, he actually was my favourite at one time, but this past week and a half has just been one big narcissistic coronation for Lewis F and Cameron's friendship and how they treat the other Housemates.

It's almost unwatchable imo because of those two.

[Vicky.]

I do wonder if people would have been so tolerant of him for so long if he had looked like Tomasz?

Quite. I seriously doubt many would be defending him if this was the case.

Again, may be wrong...given we apparently have to preface everything we post with 'IMO' even though it should be obvious its my ****ing opinion.

[Garfie]

My point being is that he has issues with a lot of the Housemates, I mean the way that he spoke to Isabella in that episode was appalling imo.

And I'm not saying that I want Lewis F to be evicted, but I do strongly dislike how he sees himself as a saint and how it's even being encouraged by the show for the public to see him in that light, it's just not healthy the way that he behaves imo.

You are so right in what you say here. He seems to totally lack any sense of self awareness when it comes to some of the major flaws in his character. And, as you say his behaviour isn't healthy, and nor is the way it is being excused and normalised.

[Mystic Mock]

Quite. I seriously doubt many would be defending him if this was the case.

Again, may be wrong...given we apparently have to preface everything we post with 'IMO' even though it should be obvious its my ****ing opinion.

Has someone argued on you about not using “imo” on here tonight? I just tend to use it because I have been pulled up on it in the past so to avoid any possible arguments with other Forum Members I just use it.

[Garfie]

Has someone argued on you about not using “imo” on here tonight? I just tend to use it because I have been pulled up on it in the past so to avoid any possible arguments with other Forum Members I just use it.

I tend to always use 'imo', 'I get the impression....' or 'I think..' etc, as I've always felt opinion should be expressed as opinion rather than as if it's a fact.

I think for the reasons you've stated it's a wise and respectful thing to do. I prefer to read such posts over those where forum members state their opinions as if they are facts that cannot be challenged.

[Mystic Mock]

I tend to always use 'imo', 'I get the impression....' or 'I think..' etc, as I've always felt opinion should be expressed as opinion rather than as if it's a fact.

I think for the reasons you've stated it's a wise and respectful thing to do. I prefer to read such posts over those where forum members state their opinions as if they are facts that cannot be challenged.

Tbh I'm not really fussed on what posting style other members want to use as long as I can understand what they've posted then it's okay imo.

I do get your point though as some posts have been antagonistic in the past when a member's opinions have been stated as fact.

Although tbf not all posts without “imo” in them are antagonistic in my view but I do get that some people will be like you and see it differently.

[Garfie]

Tbh I'm not really fussed on what posting style other members want to use as long as I can understand what they've posted then it's okay imo.

I do get your point though as some posts have been antagonistic in the past when a member's opinions have been stated as fact.

Although tbf not all posts without “imo” in them are antagonistic in my view but I do get that some people will be like you and see it differently.

No, you're right- not all posts without 'imo' are anatagonistic, and I guess that those which are could be clouding my judgement. I think using things like 'imo' is just something I do in real life, so tend to do on here too.

[Vicky.]

Has someone argued on you about not using “imo” on here tonight? I just tend to use it because I have been pulled up on it in the past so to avoid any possible arguments with other Forum Members I just use it.

I have been blasted for posting my opinions as facts.

However, I think OBVIOUSLY my posts are my opinion, so it seems a bit daft to preface everything with IMO...not sure if I am going to start doing it or not but its ****ing annoying that someones moaning about it for sure. They don't tell others to 'IMO' their stuff. It was only because of the housemate I was posting negatively about, IMO :p

[HBB1508]

The problem for Lewis F is that he has had issues with Lewis G, Hussain, Anamelia, Kay, Tomasz, Isaac, and now it's Akeem.

How many more people can Lewis F take on until the public realise that he is the problem?

:clap1::clap1:

[Niamh.]

I really don't get the problem with Akeem, he seems really nice to me, I think it annoys people in there how unphased and laid back he is. Infact because of that it was even more uncomfortable to see him break a little last night because that is out of character for him so it must be really getting to him now

[Niamh.]

The problem for Lewis F is that he has had issues with Lewis G, Hussain, Anamelia, Kay, Tomasz, Isaac, and now it's Akeem.

How many more people can Lewis F take on until the public realise that he is the problem?

and Cian

[Twosugars]

I like and support Tomasz but his silly obsession with Akeem never sat well with me.
Akeem is a nice bloke, sure not perfect (likes to lead unelected) but the guy deserves a break and our support.

[lewys]

the task last night was horrible to watch it was plain bullying with cameron and lewis

[Liam-]

The only person who’s really treated him consistently badly is Tomasz tbh, Cameron is starting to snipe at him more and more, but at the beginning he did seem to defend Akeem against Tomasz at times, I personally don’t really get this whole ‘poor innocent’ Akeem routine people are playing all of a sudden, because when it was Tomasz and Isaac going after him, hardly anyone batted an eyelid, but now he’s had a row with Lewis, he’s suddenly a massive victim? I’m not buying it.

[jaxie]

I think the hatred comes from when he was coin leader tbh. That got a bee in Tomasz bonnet which still hasn't left despite Akeem not being top for a while now, and Tomasz has been dropping poison, which has led to the treatment of Akeem that we see.

In short, I don't think its anything Akeems actually done, I think its Tomasz' random hatred of him.

Though I could be wrong of course.

I think you are right. Bullying or poor treatment of a person often starts with a game of nasty whispers.

I don't particularly like Akeem as a housemate, he's just there really, but I don't see anything in his behaviour or demeaner that deserves the way he is being treated in the house.

[jaxie]

Quite. I seriously doubt many would be defending him if this was the case.

Again, may be wrong...given we apparently have to preface everything we post with 'IMO' even though it should be obvious its my ****ing opinion.

He'd be hated if he looked like Tomasz and talked in a voice that was slow enough to understand.