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Kazanne
12-10-2018, 12:11 PM
People keep pointing out that Lewis has a criminal past, I have looked and can't find anything about him being an arsonist and thief,so whatever he did must have been minor otherwise the press would have been on it like flies round ****,I found stuff like this https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/who-lewis-flanagan-yoga-loving-13253711 but nothing much about him doing the things some say he did,so where have these stories come from? I know,another Lewis thread,just stone me :hehe:

Denver
12-10-2018, 12:12 PM
And he made a frank and honest revelation about his past in his introductory VT.

Lewis said: "I've committed a lot of crimes in my life that I'm not proud of – drugs, theft arson."

reece(:
12-10-2018, 12:15 PM
You didn't watch the launch show?

Vanessa
12-10-2018, 12:16 PM
He has turned his life around. The only thing remaining is his bad temper. But he's a good lad.

Kazanne
12-10-2018, 12:18 PM
And he made a frank and honest revelation about his past in his introductory VT.

Lewis said: "I've committed a lot of crimes in my life that I'm not proud of – drugs, theft arson."

Well there you go,he has been up front plus it doesn't say how 'bad' these crimes were,must have been minor I would think,it doesn't say when it was done, the drugs part may have made him paranoid, it happens to a lot of people,most people have nicked something,as for the arson,naughty but obviously we don't know the context of what it was ,he probs set someones bonfire alight.but thanks at least that's something,it's just strange that the tabloids aren't all over this,but there's time yet.

saiwong
12-10-2018, 12:19 PM
And he made a frank and honest revelation about his past in his introductory VT.

Lewis said: "I've committed a lot of crimes in my life that I'm not proud of – drugs, theft arson."

It seems odd how Big Brother can pick and choose what past offences a housemate is allowed to have and still remain in the house.

So Lewis F was involved in drugs, theft arson and stays in the house

Ellis posts a tweet when she was a teen and is kicked out

Kazanne
12-10-2018, 12:20 PM
You didn't watch the launch show?

I didn't take much notice as I wasn't particularly interested,as I said before,poor cast this year, I have missed a few eps as fell asleep.

Denver
12-10-2018, 12:21 PM
Well there you go,he has been up front plus it doesn't say how 'bad' these crimes were,must have been minor I would think,it doesn't say when it was done, the drugs part may have made him paranoid, it happens to a lot of people,most people have nicked something,as for the arson,naughty but obviously we don't know the context of what it was ,he probs set someones bonfire alight.but thanks at least that's something,it's just strange that the tabloids aren't all over this,but there's time yet.

You can not be arrested for personal use only intent to sell.

Arson is a very nasty crime destroying someones property they worked for

Theft is also vile stealing other peoples property

I dont see how you think they are minor

poppsywoppsy
12-10-2018, 12:26 PM
You can not be arrested for personal use only intent to sell.

Arson is a very nasty crime destroying someones property they worked for

Theft is also vile stealing other peoples property

I dont see how you think they are minor

Homophobia and Racism have always been seen by BB as the most serious and perpetrators evicted immediately.

How many BB or CBB housemates have criminal records over the years but have remained in the BB house and were previously picked to go in there.

You cannot single out Lewis just because you don't care for him but nice try.

Kazanne
12-10-2018, 12:28 PM
You can not be arrested for personal use only intent to sell.

Arson is a very nasty crime destroying someones property they worked for

Theft is also vile stealing other peoples property

I dont see how you think they are minor

1. It is a nasty crime,but it doesn't say what it was ,he could have been a teen in a group there are few scenarios,nothing says he destroyed anyones property,but it's wrong and he has seen that so see no reason to condemn him now.
2.Theft,C'mon that could be anything ,no matter how big or small most of us have done it.

3.Nothing says he sold it,he could have been stashing it,using it,buying it,again it doesn't say what,of course it's wrong but he has admitted it so I don't see a problem at all.it was probably years ago.

I would say the arson was the worst but he's obviously seen the error of his ways,no need to hold it against him now.

saiwong
12-10-2018, 12:35 PM
I would say the arson was the worst but he's obviously seen the error of his ways,no need to hold it against him now.


I wonder why Big Brother didn't conclude that there was no need to hold Ellis's tweet against her since it was made years ago when she was just a teen.


So Big Brother :
drugs, theft arson OK

a tweet NOT OK

Kazanne
12-10-2018, 12:41 PM
I wonder why Big Brother didn't conclude that there was no need to hold Ellis's tweet against her since it was made years ago when she was just a teen.


So Big Brother :
drugs, theft arson OK

a tweet NOT OK

Depends what the tweet says , crimes are dealt with and in the past ,a tweet of someones views could still be valid.

chuff me dizzy
12-10-2018, 12:44 PM
IF any of Lewis past crimes were big, BB would not have allowed him in the house

reece(:
12-10-2018, 12:45 PM
IF any of Lewis past crimes were big, BB would not have allowed him in the house

They let Nick Leeson in

Vicky.
12-10-2018, 12:46 PM
It seems odd how Big Brother can pick and choose what past offences a housemate is allowed to have and still remain in the house.

So Lewis F was involved in drugs, theft arson and stays in the house

Ellis posts a tweet when she was a teen and is kicked out


Quite..

It does seem odd and very inconsistent tbh.

However, I don't think having a blanket rule against all with a criminal past is the right way to go either. So while criticizing, I don't know what they should do :laugh:

IF any of Lewis past crimes were big, BB would not have allowed him in the house

They have allowed people who have done prison time in..so I wouldn't be so sure. They seem to pick and chose, tbh. Which is a bit daft.

chuff me dizzy
12-10-2018, 12:46 PM
They let Nick Leeson in

He was a brilliant hm8 too

Vicky.
12-10-2018, 12:47 PM
They let Nick Leeson in

Ahaha of course. best example I think maybe :D

International manhunt. I don't think it gets much worse than that

chuff me dizzy
12-10-2018, 12:47 PM
Quite..

It does seem odd and very inconsistent tbh.

However, I don't think having a blanket rule against all with a criminal past is the right way to go either. So while criticizing, I don't know what they should do :laugh:



They have allowed people who have done prison time in..so I wouldn't be so sure. They seem to pick and chose, tbh. Which is a bit daft.

Lewis didnt get jail time for any of his "crimes" so clearly they were minor

rionablue
12-10-2018, 12:50 PM
It seems odd how Big Brother can pick and choose what past offences a housemate is allowed to have and still remain in the house.

So Lewis F was involved in drugs, theft arson and stays in the house

Ellis posts a tweet when she was a teen and is kicked out


I was JUST about to say that saiwong

RileyH
12-10-2018, 12:50 PM
He was a brilliant hm8 too

No he wasn't

Vicky.
12-10-2018, 12:52 PM
Lewis didnt get jail time for any of his "crimes" so clearly they were minor

What? You can get a warning for ****ing rape. So jail time makes no odds :laugh:

(To be clear, I am not saying Lewis raped anyone...nor am I saying they weren't minor, but the 'must be minor because no jail' defence is flawed)

chuff me dizzy
12-10-2018, 12:53 PM
What? You can get a warning for ****ing rape. So jail time makes no odds :laugh:

(To be clear, I am not saying Lewis raped anyone...nor am I saying they weren't minor, but the 'must be minor because no jail' defence is flawed)

In your opinion to which you are entitled

Vicky.
12-10-2018, 12:54 PM
In your opinion to which you are entitled

Its not my opinion that major crimes often don't result in jail time though. Its fact.

chuff me dizzy
12-10-2018, 12:55 PM
Its not my opinion that major crimes often don't result in jail time though. Its fact.

Ok,but arson ALWAYS get jail time if its major (and so it should ) so as someone said earlier it could be he set fire to someones bonfire of the 4th November

Elliot
12-10-2018, 12:55 PM
It seems odd how Big Brother can pick and choose what past offences a housemate is allowed to have and still remain in the house.

So Lewis F was involved in drugs, theft arson and stays in the house

Ellis posts a tweet when she was a teen and is kicked out


It’s so stupid lol

bots
12-10-2018, 12:58 PM
To all these people saying he has turned his life around, seen the error of his ways etc etc. What evidence is there to support this theory. Generally speaking, it requires a little bit more than the person saying it.

Going by what i've seen on the show, he clearly has a temperament that would land himself in trouble in the outside world, so, for me, the evidence from the show is that he hasn't turned his life around.

Vicky.
12-10-2018, 01:01 PM
Ok,but arson ALWAYS get jail time if its major (and so it should ) so as someone said earlier it could be he set fire to someones bonfire of the 4th November

Possibly. Arson is not something I know much about tbh, rape is as I have looked into it extensively.

Theft covers a huge range of things also. It could be that he nicked a chocolate bar from tesco and got caught, he could have stole thousands from someone. Again though, only very very serious cases of theft generally result in jail time. I know this because of my own experience which I will PM as it really does not need to be on the forum D:

Drugs also, yeah huge range. If it was before the new cannabis laws came in, then it could be for as little as having a bit dope on him :laugh:

What can't be denied is that he has a record. having a record does not automatically make someone a bad person, but I am very biased in this as I have a record :joker:

AnnieK
12-10-2018, 01:07 PM
He only said he has committed crimes - could just be an attention thing IMO - like other people have said if you take drugs - you commit a crime, if you steal a chocolate bar - you commit a crime. I read somewhere he used to set the bins alight in parks - arson - crime committed.

I don't think he has never said he ever got caught for any of the "crimes" has he? (TBF I could have missed that as I've dipped in and out a bit this year). Could just be trying to make himself look more interesting and a reformed character.

Don't like the guy at all - he has some pretty complex issues but I don't think he ever went on a one man crime spree :laugh:

joeysteele
12-10-2018, 01:29 PM
Well there you go,he has been up front plus it doesn't say how 'bad' these crimes were,must have been minor I would think,it doesn't say when it was done, the drugs part may have made him paranoid, it happens to a lot of people,most people have nicked something,as for the arson,naughty but obviously we don't know the context of what it was ,he probs set someones bonfire alight.but thanks at least that's something,it's just strange that the tabloids aren't all over this,but there's time yet.


Whatever he's admitted wrongs and had them dealt with it appears.

As you say we have no real details.

Matthew.
12-10-2018, 01:38 PM
He only said he has committed crimes - could just be an attention thing IMO - like other people have said if you take drugs - you commit a crime, if you steal a chocolate bar - you commit a crime. I read somewhere he used to set the bins alight in parks - arson - crime committed.

I don't think he has never said he ever got caught for any of the "crimes" has he? (TBF I could have missed that as I've dipped in and out a bit this year). Could just be trying to make himself look more interesting and a reformed character.

that’s actually a great point that i never even thought of and now i’m just sitting here thinking to myself how on earth that never even crossed my mind :laugh:

saiwong
12-10-2018, 01:51 PM
Homophobia and Racism have always been seen by BB as the most serious and perpetrators evicted immediately.



Not in all cases. Ironically the worst case...

Shilpa Shetty vs Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd, Jo O'Meara

Jade, Danielle and Jo were all allowed to stay in the house until evicted

poppsywoppsy
12-10-2018, 02:02 PM
Not in all cases. Ironically the worst case...

Shilpa Shetty vs Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd, Jo O'Meara

Jade, Danielle and Jo were all allowed to stay in the house until evicted

I think that if that was the case (I can't remember ) the following outrage made BB do a rethink.

It was several years ago and times and what is acceptable have moved on at a rapid pace.

Black Dagger
12-10-2018, 02:17 PM
I don't know why people are so arsed now when they haven't for 4 weeks. Just want to give themselves reason to dislike him lol.

Vicky.
12-10-2018, 02:24 PM
I don't know why people are so arsed now when they haven't for 4 weeks. Just want to give themselves reason to dislike him lol.

Some have been going on about it a while. I remember a couple of posters back when Anamelia was in talking about this.

smudgie
12-10-2018, 02:55 PM
Well he has never made headlines in the local rag.
Not even a parking ticket:joker:

Vicky.
12-10-2018, 02:56 PM
Well he has never made headlines in the local rag.
Not even a parking ticket:joker:

Neither have I :hehe:

Vicky.
12-10-2018, 02:57 PM
And yes, when he said he had been in trouble for drugs, arson and theft..I didn't even consider that he might be hamming it up to try and appear more interesting, as so many do at the application stage...

bots
12-10-2018, 02:57 PM
Neither have I :hehe:

yet ..... :joker:

smudgie
12-10-2018, 03:01 PM
Neither have I :hehe:

Hmmm, well if he had committed all these crimes he would have done.
Our local paper follows all the court cases...even ruddy magistrates.

smudgie
12-10-2018, 03:02 PM
And yes, when he said he had been in trouble for drugs, arson and theft..I didn't even consider that he might be hamming it up to try and appear more interesting, as so many do at the application stage...

Ah yes, in his own words “interesting”.:joker:

Vicky.
12-10-2018, 03:07 PM
yet ..... :joker:

Heh. I learnt my lesson last time when my dad (who works in a prison) informed me that the max possible penalty was 8 years or something. I thought for ages I was going to jail and wouldn't see my kids grow up...then it turned out I got **** all. Not even a suspended sentence..

Hmmm, well if he had committed all these crimes he would have done.
Our local paper follows all the court cases...even ruddy magistrates.

IDK. I have 2 convictions for the same thing. And couple of warnings for violence when I was younger (though I expect they only go on convictions rather than cautions)

Thats something else I was crapping about, being in the local paper but that never happened either :laugh:

I have been a totally law abiding citizen for 3 years now.

Do you live totally in the sticks? Our paper would be like an encyclopedia tbh if all court cases were followed. Which may say something for where I live D:

smudgie
12-10-2018, 03:11 PM
Heh. I learnt my lesson last time when my dad (who works in a prison) informed me that the max possible penalty was 8 years or something. I thought for ages I was going to jail and wouldn't see my kids grow up...then it turned out I got **** all. Not even a suspended sentence..



IDK. I have 2 convictions for the same thing. And couple of warnings for violence when I was younger (though I expect they only go on convictions rather than cautions)

Thats something else I was crapping about, being in the local paper but that never happened either :laugh:

I have been a totally law abiding citizen for 3 years now..

Keep it up Vicky.

Yeah, I was no innocent in my youth, just a passage of life I reckon.:joker:

rusticgal
12-10-2018, 06:21 PM
He's probably made it up or just exaggerated it...