What a snake

[Cherie]

Last week bawling over Cian welcoming Isabella, this week holding onto Lewis for dear life...and plotting to nominate him

[Elliot]

Yeah Ive gone off her for good now. This week was her downfall

[montblanc]

leave our gameplaying queen alone :devil:

[Amy Jade]

She is horrific. She turned on Cian so quick.

The jealousy against Sian is terrible too.

[Moniqua]

Lauren Rimmer said it best ha self; NEVER TRUST A RED HEAD

http://www.brantsteele.com/images/survivor/35/lauren.png

[Beso]

Trying to cling onto Cameron's coat tails now she's found out he is gay.

[troy4783]

Yeah that made me go right off her so 2 faced I hope they play that back to Cian in some sort of task !

[Cherie]

The way she is all over Lewis suddenly as well :umm2:

[Mullens123]

Lauren Rimmer said it best ha self; NEVER TRUST A RED HEAD

http://www.brantsteele.com/images/survivor/35/lauren.png

We love a woman with foresight

[bots]

i thought she had been talking behind peoples backs a lot this week and stirring it, but tonight finished it for me.

[Beso]

She's running out of steam, first week n a bit she was all fun and jokes messing around with Cian, starfishing in the pool comes to mind.... Now basing her opinions on people grinding when music comes on.. Bore off home where you are needed.

[Cherie]

She's running out of steam, first week n a bit she was all fun and jokes messing around with Cian, starfish ingrown the pool comes to mind.... Now basing her opinions on people grinding when music comes on.. Bore off home where you are needed.

John and Margaret divorced

[rusticgal]

She's all over the place...very clingy and clutching onto people who she thinks will be popular for a ride to the final...

[Cherie]

She's all over the place...very clingy and clutching onto people who she thinks will be popular for a ride to the final...

Spot on

[lewys]

the worst female !

[Dollface]

She is horrific. She turned on Cian so quick.

The jealousy against Sian is terrible too.

I mean I don't like Zoe but I don't think there's any evidence of her being jealous of Sian, maybe she just doesn't like her? I don't like Sian and Brooke because Brooke has come across 2 faced and Sian comes across bitchy, but because they're both pretty women, does that mean 'm jealous?

[rusticgal]

I mean I don't like Zoe but I don't think there's any evidence of her being jealous of Sian, maybe she just doesn't like her? I don't like Sian and Brooke because Brooke has come across 2 faced and Sian comes across bitchy, but because they're both pretty women, does that mean 'm jealous?


I agree. All Sian does is smoke and make snide comments and hasn't got the balls to say it to people's faces. Brooke is very 2 faced and has been a big **** stirrer.
However..Zoe isn't much better...

[Lostie!]

The sad thing is, Cian will continue being loyal to both Zoe and Cameron when neither deserves his loyalty or his friendship

[Kazanne]

I like Zoe , glad she is waking up to the fakes and snakes in there

[Dollface]

I agree. All Sian does is smoke and make snide comments and hasn't got the balls to say it to people's faces. Brooke is very 2 faced and has been a big **** stirrer.
However..Zoe isn't much better...

Yeah Zoe isn't far behind them in my list of disliked housemates tbh, she's shown some pathetic qualities (aka crying in the diary room over isabella, clearly having a problem with kenny but pretending she liked her when they had a chat about it, and now the thing with cian)
I'm sick of seeing "it's jealousy" whenever a less pretty girl dislikes an attractive girl though

[Kazanne]

How can you call people out on saying stuff you deem bad, but feel free to say things like this ? her son is nowt to do with this, she's most probably a fantastic mom.

[Kazanne]

I mean I don't like Zoe but I don't think there's any evidence of her being jealous of Sian, maybe she just doesn't like her? I don't like Sian and Brooke because Brooke has come across 2 faced and Sian comes across bitchy, but because they're both pretty women, does that mean 'm jealous?

It always happens on here, if you don't like a female you're automatically jealous lol

[Dollface]

How can you call people out on saying stuff you deem bad, but feel free to say things like this ? her son is nowt to do with this, she's most probably a fantastic mom.

I'm confused, have i been blocked by someone? :laugh: it says you haven't quoted anyone and i can't see any post in this thread about Zoe as a mother

[Jack_]

She finally turns up to the series and gets a storyline that may in the process make SIAN relevant and this forum goes off her. Classic TiBB :joker:

[Twosugars]

The sad thing is, Cian will continue being loyal to both Zoe and Cameron when neither deserves his loyalty or his friendship
This

Must say didn't expect that from Zoe, sneaky cow

[Amy Jade]

The sad thing is, Cian will continue being loyal to both Zoe and Cameron when neither deserves his loyalty or his friendship

He deserves a loyal friend. Poor guy.

[Elliot]

The sad thing is, Cian will continue being loyal to both Zoe and Cameron when neither deserves his loyalty or his friendship

Dw Isabella will be by his side soon and ride off into the final two xx

[Garfie]

This seems to be a complete turnaround on Zoe's part, and Cameron's too, considering how close they all were just a short while ago. There seems some real hatred and resentment being directed towards Cian. Why has Zoe so suddenly positioned herself so closely with Lewis and Cameron at the expense of her other relationships in the house?

[rusticgal]

Zoe and Cian are on self destruct with their jealousy. Cian with Cameron and Zoe with Cian...both over something stupid.

[rionablue]

Last week bawling over Cian welcoming Isabella, this week holding onto Lewis for dear life...and plotting to nominate him

I didnt like that either tonight and she would have been one of my favourites up to now

[Mystic Mock]

I mean I don't like Zoe but I don't think there's any evidence of her being jealous of Sian, maybe she just doesn't like her? I don't like Sian and Brooke because Brooke has come across 2 faced and Sian comes across bitchy, but because they're both pretty women, does that mean 'm jealous?

The difference between you and Zoe is that you don't sound like a psychopath who has had these issues with Sian since the first week on a really personal level, I don't even like Sian but Zoe's dislike of her is out of proportion imo.

[Jordan.]

She seems to be a very possessive and envious person, if I had to guess I'd say she probably doesn't have many close friendships on the outside due to her son taking up most of her time that's why she's been so clingy with Cian and spiteful towards anyone she sees as a threat.

[Ammi]

This seems to be a complete turnaround on Zoe's part, and Cameron's too, considering how close they all were just a short while ago. There seems some real hatred and resentment being directed towards Cian. Why has Zoe so suddenly positioned herself so closely with Lewis and Cameron at the expense of her other relationships in the house?

...it kind of is a complete turnaround but then isn’t also for me..:laugh:...it does make complete sense also...she hasn’t felt the same closeness to Cian since Isabella became part of the dynamics...so she's obviously vulnerable to having a more negative perspective of him because of that...she’s felt pushed out but she plays a big part in that pushing out herself, I feel...as she’s stepped back, rather than join in so the two become three, you know...it’s probably a bit of a six and two threes situation in that he hasn’t always thought to include her but she hasn’t tried to include herself, which she could easily do...etc, etc...anyway that all would make her vulnerable to how Lewis and Cameron feel about Cian...they seem to see him as some kind of jealous person because he’s not so close to Cameron anymore..and that seems to be constantly fed into Cameron by Lewis as well who absorbs every thought felt and every word uttered by Lewis....when actually as Cameron and Lewis have become closer and closer ...and Cameron and Cian, more distant..?...Cian has just been fine and dandy and focused in the other friendships he has and he has no problem with the more surface stuff as a balance, whereas Lewis just can’t seem to be around it and he’s enhancied that intolerance in Cameron..Zoe seems to have taken a little bit of ownership over her friendship with Cian, though...whereas Cian is not an ‘ownership’ type of person...he just connects with positivity, really..so connects equally with many in there...as sometimes he enjoys surface and fun and sometimes he enjoys deeper conversations etc...

[bots]

i think Cian is guilty by association with Sian, he shares too many letters with her

[Beso]

I mean I don't like Zoe but I don't think there's any evidence of her being jealous of Sian, maybe she just doesn't like her? I don't like Sian and Brooke because Brooke has come across 2 faced and Sian comes across bitchy, but because they're both pretty women, does that mean 'm jealous?

She is jealous cause Sian has taken the mother role and seems to be the one hms go to for some motherly love.

[Cherie]

I havent seen any evidence of Cian being especially close to Isabella apart from Zoe bawling about it after she came in which I now feel was over exagerrated by her to put Cian in a bad light

[Cherie]

I like Zoe , glad she is waking up to the fakes and snakes in there

There is no one faker than Zoe

[Cherie]

i think Cian is guilty by association with Sian, he shares too many letters with her

:joker:

[Kazanne]

We may aswell all blame Lewis for Zoe and Camerons words and actions,it will save all the "disappointment of Zoe daring to like Lewis and Cameron":laugh:

[Kazanne]

There is no one faker than Zoe

Not imo,there are a few slytherins in there :wavey:

[Cherie]

We may aswell all blame Lewis for Zoe and Camerons words and actions,it will save all the "disappointment of Zoe daring to like Lewis and Cameron":laugh:

I havent said that at all, she was best friends with Cian to the point of crying in the DR over he being friendly with Isabella, then Cameron came out and now all if a sudden she is holding hands with LF on the sofa on eviction night, and talking negatively about her ‘friend’, she can like who she wants but why cant she be friends with both?

[bots]

I have difficulty liking any of the housemates, but I still find it very entertaining with all the backstabbing going on ... it's been a great series from that perspective

[chuff me dizzy]

I havent seen any evidence of Cian being especially close to Isabella apart from Zoe bawling about it after she came in which I now feel was over exagerrated by her to put Cian in a bad light

Cian is what someone pointed out yesterday .... A floater ......he goes from person to person telling tales, then he moves on and tells tales to someone else about the last person he was last talking to ....Hes very sly

[rusticgal]

I think Zoe is over sensitive. She's never forgiven Cian for attaching himself to Isabella when she came in. Despite their chat..she no longer trusts him.
She's found a loyal bond in Cameron and Lewis and she feels that they won't betray her as she feels Cian has.
Then again maybe she could be attaching herself to people she feels will carry her to the final?
Cian is so pissed at Cameron's loyalty to Lewis...hence his chat with Brooke. I thought Cian should have told Cameron to his face that he felt he was there for him too...but he knows he screwed it up that night he declared he fancied him and rained on Cameron's parade.

[GoldHeart]

And she has such a problem with Sian yet won't confront her . I find it so hypocritical how Cameron , Lewis & Zoe were bitching about other housemates yet Lewis has the nerve to say other people are talking behind eachother's back SURE okayyy :facepalm: .

[Ammi]

..I don’t think she’s a snake at all...she’s just feeling alienated from what was previously known as the misfit society and feeling lost, I think...she seems very lacking in self confidence as well...her only close friendship was Cian and she’s feeling the loss of that friendship since Isabella came into the house..I love Cian but it was quite incensitive of him to gush about how Isabella was just exactly his type of person and very typical of his outside friendships on the outside...having said that, they all go in as their own people so it’s not good to be reliant on someone else for your own stability and happiness in the house...

....but hmmmmm... Cameron was also a part of the misfit society also, was he not..then he alienated himself more and more from that group to align himself with Lewis and set himself apart...is he not a snake as well, then...surely the same thought process would apply...

[Ammi]

And she has such a problem with Sian yet won't confront her . I find it so hypocritical how Cameron , Lewis & Zoe were bitching about other housemates yet Lewis has the nerve to say other people are talking behind eachother's back SURE okayyy :facepalm: .

...Zoe has always said that she has no level of having much in common with the ‘girlie girls’...and when Kenaley left, she talked about the bond she had with Sian because of their similarities in liking make up and doing their hair etc, type girlie stuff...and no she hasn’t confronted any girlie girl because why would she, what’s to confront...YOU STOP BEING A GIRLIE GIRL, It's driving me crazy and it’s horrid...:laugh:...and she’s generally not a confrontational person anyway...

[Kazanne]

Zoe probably gets on better with males than females as I tend to do, I like her,I don't see her as a snake she doesn't HAVE to like Sian etc, I don't like Sian either,somepeople you take to others not.

[Ammi]

...she seems to get on fine with females, Kaz...just not so much girlie girl, type females...which is more what Sian is...just struggling for a level of communication in common, I guess...

[Cherie]

..I don’t think she’s a snake at all...she’s just feeling alienated from what was previously known as the misfit society and feeling lost, I think...she seems very lacking in self confidence as well...her only close friendship was Cian and she’s feeling the loss of that friendship since Isabella came into the house..I love Cian but it was quite incensitive of him to gush about how Isabella was just exactly his type of person and very typical of his outside friendships on the outside...having said that, they all go in as their own people so it’s not good to be reliant on someone else for your own stability and happiness in the house...

....but hmmmmm... Cameron was also a part of the misfit society also, was he not..then he alienated himself more and more from that group to align himself with Lewis and set himself apart...is he not a snake as well, then...surely the same thought process would apply...

Cameron is’nt plotting to nomiate Tomasz though who is his closest ‘misfit’ friend....what happened to John and Margaret and smushing cake in each others faces :laugh:

[Cherie]

Zoe probably gets on better with males than females as I tend to do, I like her,I don't see her as a snake she doesn't HAVE to like Sian etc, I don't like Sian either,somepeople you take to others not.

No but she doesn’t have to talk absolute ****e about her either ...ie when Isabella came in she immediately predicted Sian would be jealous of her because of her looks...thats not happened

[jaxie]

I think Zoe is showing that she aligns with who she believes is popular with the public, hence the switch from Cian to Lewis/Cameron.

[ConnorTheJudge]

Trying to cling onto Cameron's coat tails now she's found out he is gay.
She's been close to Cameron from the start.

[bots]

I think Zoe is showing that she aligns with who she believes is popular with the public, hence the switch from Cian to Lewis/Cameron.

i think thats exactly it. She is looking for her path to the final.

[Cherie]

She's been close to Cameron from the start.

She has been far closer to Cian, her noms will be interesting

[Twosugars]

I think Zoe is showing that she aligns with who she believes is popular with the public, hence the switch from Cian to Lewis/Cameron.

possible, but if that's the case then she'll live to regret this :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

Ive never been a fan of Zoe, I find her a floater, she goes from person to person to keep herself free from nominations

[GoldHeart]

Zoe is a floater for sure , she convinced Kenny she likes her yet still nominated her . It's obvious though that she prefers male company. She doesn't seem that close to Brooke anymore.

[Cherie]

Taking coins off Cian lol, and her obsession with Sian is :umm2:

[Niamh.]

She's really turned on Cian

[Vicky.]

I cannot stand her, and have not been able to since she entered :umm2: I don't even know why and sometimes I feel bad about it as yeah shes a bit of a bitch and yet another moaner..but shes not really done anything big for me to dislike so much, but I do D:

Also shes been guilt tripping them all about the coins as she keeps saying shes saving them for a phonecall or something with her son, so people keep giving her them and wont take any away...but then she goes and bids 300 for the mystery power. Sly :D

[Cherie]

I cannot stand her, and have not been able to since she entered :umm2: I don't even know why and sometimes I feel bad about it as yeah shes a bit of a bitch and yet another moaner..but shes not really done anything big for me to dislike so much, but I do D:

Also shes been guilt tripping them all about the coins as she keeps saying shes saving them for a phonecall or something with her son, so people keep giving her them and wont take any away...but then she goes and bids 300 for the mystery power. Sly :D

Yep never bought anything to share as she was saving for that letter :laugh:

[Nancy.]

I actually quite like her now.

[troy4783]

She’s so fake and 2 faced I really hope it’s played back in a task all her bitching about Cian behind his back !

[Mystic Mock]

She is really psychotically obsessed with Sian.:umm2:

[Cherie]

Last week bawling over Cian welcoming Isabella, this week holding onto Lewis for dear life...and plotting to nominate him

Her allies threw her under a bus really as she thought they would nom Cian as well, instead their hate for Hussein took precedence, so she has literally torpedoed her chances of winning while the other two are still in the running

[Cherie]

I actually quite like her now.

:joker:

[bots]

its amazing how many housemates have killed their chances of winning in a few short days this series. As soon as Zoe is up now, she is out.

[Cherie]

its amazing how many housemates have killed their chances of winning in a few short days this series. As soon as Zoe is up now, she is out.


It could be argued Cameron played her there, but not sure he is that clever, she definitely didn't swerve from her Cian/Sian vote though

[Niamh.]

...it kind of is a complete turnaround but then isn’t also for me..:laugh:...it does make complete sense also...she hasn’t felt the same closeness to Cian since Isabella became part of the dynamics...so she's obviously vulnerable to having a more negative perspective of him because of that...she’s felt pushed out but she plays a big part in that pushing out herself, I feel...as she’s stepped back, rather than join in so the two become three, you know...it’s probably a bit of a six and two threes situation in that he hasn’t always thought to include her but she hasn’t tried to include herself, which she could easily do...etc, etc...anyway that all would make her vulnerable to how Lewis and Cameron feel about Cian...they seem to see him as some kind of jealous person because he’s not so close to Cameron anymore..and that seems to be constantly fed into Cameron by Lewis as well who absorbs every thought felt and every word uttered by Lewis....when actually as Cameron and Lewis have become closer and closer ...and Cameron and Cian, more distant..?...Cian has just been fine and dandy and focused in the other friendships he has and he has no problem with the more surface stuff as a balance, whereas Lewis just can’t seem to be around it and he’s enhancied that intolerance in Cameron..Zoe seems to have taken a little bit of ownership over her friendship with Cian, though...whereas Cian is not an ‘ownership’ type of person...he just connects with positivity, really..so connects equally with many in there...as sometimes he enjoys surface and fun and sometimes he enjoys deeper conversations etc...

Great analysis Ammi, I also think it's odd how Lewis and Cameron seem to think everything and everyones feelings and actions in the house revolve around them and no one else. It's pretty self obsessed

[Niamh.]

No but she doesn’t have to talk absolute ****e about her either ...ie when Isabella came in she immediately predicted Sian would be jealous of her because of her looks...thats not happened

Yes that's a good point actually, I'm of the opinion that alot of these women who claim they don't get on with other women are often projecting their own feelings on "all the other women", it's a bit sad really

[bots]

What i find interesting is that the more Zoe's obsession with Sian continues, the more we are seeing of Sian .... and I really do like her a lot. She doesnt throw her toys out the pram when a couple of choice words or a look will do and she is always, always bang on point whereas lewis and cameron disappear up their own arse holes with paranoia

[JoshBB]

apparently she nominated Cian?? i mean, i am 4 episodes behind, but wtf????

[Calderyon]

Her betrayal of Cian is disgraceful and her obsessionate and cowardly (cause she isn't straight with her/badmouths her to others) hate towards Sian is just weird.

[Kazanne]

Her betrayal of Cian is disgraceful and her obsessionate and cowardly (cause she isn't straight with her/badmouths her to others) hate towards Sian is just weird.

We only see 45 mins,who knows what is happening in between,some people you just cant warm to maybe that is the case with Zoe and Sian,none of them have to like each other,I can see why she would be disappointed in Cian aswell.

[jaxie]

She is a bitter, jealous woman and she is showing herself up.

I feel a bit sorry Cian, I don't think all the turning on him is very fair.

[Niamh.]

She is a bitter, jealous woman and she is showing herself up.

I feel a bit sorry Cian, I don't think all the turning on him is very fair.

Poor Cian doesn't even know it's happening is the thing

[jaxie]

Poor Cian doesn't even know it's happening is the thing

He doesn't and that makes it worse, there he is saying how she is his bestie and he has no clue. Cameron's attitude towards Cian is appalling as well. If someone admits they have a crush on you and you don't reciprocate you could at least be considerate of their feelings. Rather than condemning them.

[bots]

Poor Cian doesn't even know it's happening is the thing

this is why i am enjoying BB this year, it's just all so random, it's great :laugh:

[Niamh.]

He doesn't and that makes it worse, there he is saying how she is his bestie and he has no clue. Cameron's attitude towards Cian is appalling as well. If someone admits they have a crush on you and you don't reciprocate you could at least be considerate of their feelings. Rather than condemning them.

I really want him to find out Zoe nominated him though and yeah i agree cameron was awful about that

this is why i am enjoying BB this year, it's just all so random, it's great :laugh:

It has been a great year that's for sure. Shame it's the last one