Lewis and Cameron's next victim is Sianham

[Jase.]

As shown on BOTS. Ripping into her in the bedroom (behind her back obv) and calling her a ******

[reece(:]

Ugh they're HORRID. HORRID HORRID HORRID

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[BBDodge]

Saying what people on forums have been saying for weeks.

[Elliot]

How do people like them

[Jordan.]

My blood just boiled!

[RileyH]

I just DON'T get how they are popular

[reece(:]

I just DON'T get how they are popular

The thirst vote

[jaxie]

Lewis has no respect for women at all.

[RileyH]

Me watching them self combust throughout the week purely bc of our Sian

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[rusticgal]

As shown on BOTS. Ripping into her in the bedroom (behind her back obv) and calling her a ******


Like Sian has said very little for 4 weeks apart from making snide bitchy comments behind people's backs..

[RileyH]

The thirst vote

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/sites/default/files/styles/housemate_profile/public/HOUSEMATE-HOUSEMATE-Cameron.png?itok=XOyx8677

[Elliot]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/sites/default/files/styles/housemate_profile/public/HOUSEMATE-HOUSEMATE-Cameron.png?itok=XOyx8677

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder?

[reece(:]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/sites/default/files/styles/housemate_profile/public/HOUSEMATE-HOUSEMATE-Cameron.png?itok=XOyx8677

Tory vote

[Jordan.]

I can't believe they called her the c word absolute SCUMBAGS

[reece(:]

I can't believe they called her the c word absolute SCUMBAGS

Riles me that they'd call an innocent angel such a disgusting word!

[Amy Jade]

Calling her a **** on telly is horrible

[bots]

Sian would tear lewis limb from limb in an argument, so it should be interesting

[Kazanne]

Like Sian has said very little for 4 weeks apart from making snide bitchy comments behind people's backs..

Funny how that all gets forgotten

[Elliot]

Lmao I hope everyone goes off them like they went off Andrew for calling Ann the c word

[EllieBrownFan]

Sian is a mother cooks and cleans for the whole house, they are such vile beings.

[joeysteele]

I find it amazing they've realised she's still there.
She got a mention from them.
Nothing worth showing directly from her herself

[Lostie!]

I don't even have an issue with the word **** because I use it but what on earth has she done to be called one? :umm2:

[rionablue]

As shown on BOTS. Ripping into her in the bedroom (behind her back obv) and calling her a ******

Absolutely unwarranted and disgusting. Lewis has lost the run of himself. Bitter bitter bitter and Cameron is a complete DOORMAT

[rusticgal]

Riles me that they'd call an innocent angel such a disgusting word!


:laugh:...innocent Angel she isn't..

She's a bitchy, dull and emotionless but she isn't a ****...unless she did something really cuntish..but I don't like that word.

[Amy Jade]

I find it amazing they've realised she's still there.
She got a mention from them.
Nothing worth showing directly from her herself

You think it's okay for two men to call a woman a **** for no reason?

Where are the gentlemen of the world!?

[BBDodge]

I don't even have an issue with the word **** because I use it but what on earth has she done to be called one? :umm2:

As the women on the panel said "She's done nothing".

That's why the producers want VTS.

[RileyH]

Sian is a mother cooks and cleans for the whole house, they are such vile beings.

Ungrateful PIGS

[Kazanne]

How many vile names have people called certain housemates on here? So don't come over all virtuous as soon as a fave is called a twunt.

[Amy Jade]

I don't even have an issue with the word **** because I use it but what on earth has she done to be called one? :umm2:

Breathing most likely thats all it takes with that pair

[rusticgal]

Sian is a mother cooks and cleans for the whole house, they are such vile beings.


That's why no one nominates her...that's obviously her game plan. Feed the...clean for them and keep out of arguements and get to the final.

[Jordan.]

I find it amazing they've realised she's still there.
She got a mention from them.
Nothing worth showing directly from her herself

At least she can be proud she didn't get airtime for being nasty obnoxious pieces of ****

[RileyH]

That's why no one nominates her...that's obviously her game plan. Feed the...clean for them and keep out of arguements and get to the final.

A calculated legend

[joeysteele]

You think it's okay for two men to call a woman a **** for no reason?

Where are the gentlemen of the world!?

I hate the word.
I actually don't like any swear words.
However I hear that all the time, even from schoolkids now.

He didn't call her it to her, he used it talking about her.
We don't see what she says about anyone as we don't really hear from her.

I'm more than sure she can fire the foulest language too.

[Amy Jade]

At least she can be proud she didn't get airtime for being nasty obnoxious pieces of ****

Very true.

[rusticgal]

How many vile names have people called certain housemates on here? So don't come over all virtuous as soon as a fave is called a twunt.


It's not necessarily about favourites Kaz....it's all about who said it of course.

[rusticgal]

At least she can be proud she didn't get airtime for being nasty obnoxious pieces of ****

Thanks to them...she IS getting talked about.

[EllieBrownFan]

I hate the word.
I actually don't like any swear words.
However I hear that all the time, even from schoolkids now.

He didn't call her it to her, he used it talking about her.
We don't see what she says about anyone as we don't really hear from her.

I'm more than sure she can fire the foulest language too.

Sian would never she has a kid outside and knows to be a good role model.

[joeysteele]

How many vile names have people called certain housemates on here? So don't come over all virtuous as soon as a fave is called a twunt.

She wasn't called it, it was a word used when talking about her, not even in earshot of her.

Had it been used directly to her, some substance to the attack may have justification.

Another over reaction.
If anyone used it talking about Lewis or even something worse, it would have likely been applauded even if a female had done it.

[Elliot]

I hate the word.
I actually don't like any swear words.
However I hear that all the time, even from schoolkids now.

He didn't call her it to her, he used it talking about her.
We don't see what she says about anyone as we don't really hear from her.

I'm more than sure she can fire the foulest language too.

Sure.. vilify them for what she could do, not what she did do...

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[joeysteele]

Sian would never she has a kid outside and knows to be a good role model.

Oh please don't give me that.
You don't know her, you cannot say that as fact.

Put her behind the wheel of a car driving it, I'd bet she not only thinks it but says or thinks it loads.
Yelling it likely too, out the window directly to other drivers.

[joeysteele]

All I will add is while I hate the word.
I've come across from school kids right upwards in age. Male or female to just be a regular addition to all other swear words.

[GoldHeart]

Oh please don't give me that.
You don't know her, you cannot say that as fact.

Put her behind the wheel of a car driving it, I'd bet she not only thinks it but says or thinks it loads.
Yelling it likely too, out the window directly to other drivers.

The worst we've heard her say is call Lewis an idiot which he is .
I don't recall her calling anyone a C ... .

I'm not even a Sian fan ,but its gotten to the point where Lewis & Cameron can do no wrong. It's like they think they own the house :bored: .

[Elliot]

Oh please don't give me that.
You don't know her, you cannot say that as fact.

Put her behind the wheel of a car driving it, I'd bet she not only thinks it but says or thinks it loads.
Yelling it likely too, out the window directly to other drivers.

You don’t know her either so how can you give a pass to Lewis andcsmseon with ‘well sian would probably say it too’

[rusticgal]

Sian would never she has a kid outside and knows to be a good role model.

You don't know that..unless she's your mate.

[GoldHeart]

You don’t know her either so how can you give a pass to Lewis andcsmseon with ‘well sian would probably say it too’

Golden boys can do no wrong remember :whistle:

Even when they break BB rules and talk to people like crap ,they're still loved :sleep: .

[Garfie]

The conversation was unpleasant to watch. It was so vicious and it made me cringe.

I've never been a Sian fan, and I'm still not, but I used to like both Lewis and Cameron. However, it is this type of behaviour that has made me change my views.

Zoe has planted ideas in them regarding Sian and the paranoia has taken over yet again.

I hate the way they get together, choose a target and then annihilte their characters. They've done this so many times before, and it is a truly unpleasant trait.

When we saw them interacting with other housemates tonight, they were both so much better to watch. Together, they just bring out the most negative parts of each other's character.

[bots]

I'm sure Sian is perfectly capable of dealing with lewis and cameron, but it will be irrelevant if the show moves to VTS tomorrow night because I wont be watching

[reece(:]

So sick of the Lewis and Cameron show.

[rusticgal]

Well let's hope it's not Sian that called them *****...we don't know what has lead to this yet.
Many of the clips on BB have been misleading and it's not until we see the show that we get the full picture..

[Mystic Mock]

They've been listening to Zoe for too long.:joker:

Sian's just a boring girl who smokes by the Benches, and has a talent for art by drawing a very canny Cameron.

[Cal.]

HOW DARE THEY come for our Sian :(

[rusticgal]

So sick of the Lewis and Cameron show.


Tonight had a lot of the others in play...the waxing scene with Cian/ Isabella and Zoe...the row with Hussain and Isabella ....however I've yet to see one thread on them.

[reece(:]

Tonight had a lot of the others in play...the waxing scene with Cian/ Isabella and Zoe...the row with Hussain and Isabella ....however I've yet to see one thread on them.

None of those incite negativity like the gruesome twosome do.

[Mystic Mock]

Golden boys can do no wrong remember :whistle:

Even when they break BB rules and talk to people like crap ,they're still loved :sleep: .

You've just reminded me, how did Lewis F not have his nominations taken away from him after he blatantly discussed nominations with Cameron? Cameron repeatedly even said that he didn't want to discuss nominations yet Lewis F kept doing it anyway.

And with the word ****, it should only be used when the person has done something disgraceful and imo Sian hasn't.

[Garfie]

You've just reminded me, how did Lewis F not have his nominations taken away from him after he blatantly discussed nominations with Cameron? Cameron repeatedly even said that he didn't want to discuss nominations yet Lewis F kept doing it anyway.

And with the word ****, it should only be used when the person has done something disgraceful and imo Sian hasn't.

Yes, strange that hasn't been mentioned by BB or discussed with him in the diary room. I hope it isn't swept under the carpet, but affects his opportunity to vote in the next round of nominations.

[lewys]

ugh i can't wait for miss sianham get the normal lass vote AND the victim vote and win this whole thing !

[Garfie]

Well let's hope it's not Sian that called them *****...we don't know what has lead to this yet.
Many of the clips on BB have been misleading and it's not until we see the show that we get the full picture..

I think they started by discussing her role in the house, and said something about her always doing the cooking and cleaning and being the mother figure and too nice to everyone. I got the impression they felt she was being false and the role she had chosen was a game plan. They then talked about weasels, snakes and reptiles, before the offensive word was used several times.

I think maybe they have become paranoid about Sian, after Zoe planted the idea with them that Sian isn't what she seems.

[smudgie]

I hate the word.
It won’t have done them any favours that’s for sure.
I winced when Issy used it and I winced when it was used tonight.

[LaLaLand]

They better NOT come for our Sian!

[Mystic Mock]

Yes, strange that hasn't been mentioned by BB or discussed with him in the diary room. I hope it isn't swept under the carpet, but affects his opportunity to vote in the next round of nominations.

I hope it hasn't been either.

Maybe his punishment will be eviction?:devil:

[Garfie]

I hope it hasn't been either.

Maybe his punishment will be eviction?:devil:

:laugh: Time will tell.........!

It'd be good viewing if they unexpectedly take away his chance to nominate for the second evictee on Friday.....? Could be interesting!

[Ammi]

..they can refer to Sian as they wish to, with whatever terminology they choose to use..(..whether it’s merited or not..)....but the irony comes when they’ve judged and criticised others for their wording and terminology as well...as with sexual talk...their ‘level’ and terminology is okay and dandy and acceptable apparently...but the others use of terminology is quite base and crude and unacceptable to them...they make the rules and they scream the rules... but they don’t practice them, is the thing for me...

[Ammi]

...Lewis can call the whole house a reptile house...but if one person called Lewis a reptile or reptile-like in his character...well then...that would surely get his goose gandered ..:fan:..

[Beso]

I can't believe they called her the c word absolute SCUMBAGS

Who called her it? Both or just one.

[Kazanne]

Sure.. vilify them for what she could do, not what she did do...

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Just like you did when you accused Lewis of being a wife beater !!!!If you can't take it,don't dish it.

[Kazanne]

Who called her it? Both or just one.

Pretty sure it was Lewis,and as much as I hate that word ,people have been reffered to as much worse

[Vanessa]

I don't like swearing, but he's not wrong about Sian. She's not as nicey nice as she tries to appear. She's a shallow, bitchy and malicious.

[Vanessa]

I live in a reptile zoo. That line still makes me laugh out loud :joker:

[Garfie]

Who called her it? Both or just one.

Lewis definitely used the word twice. From memory I don't recall Cameron using it, but I might be wrong.

[Garfie]

Pretty sure it was Lewis,and as much as I hate that word ,people have been reffered to as much worse

I detest the word, and it makes me cringe every time I hear it, especially when it's said with such venom. I can't actually think of anything worse you could call someone, unless it was a racist word.

[Kazanne]

Tonight had a lot of the others in play...the waxing scene with Cian/ Isabella and Zoe...the row with Hussain and Isabella ....however I've yet to see one thread on them.

Obviously all that must have been boring,people secretly glued to the TV for the Lewis and Cameron show.

[Vanessa]

Its a word that a lot of young people use, but i don't like it. Idiot works better, I think.

[Cherie]

Like Sian has said very little for 4 weeks apart from making snide bitchy comments behind people's backs..

in what way? she made one comment about Lewis attacking women again when he was in the pool with Isabella

the apple comment was made directly to Cameron?

have you further examples

[Cherie]

I live in a reptile zoo. That line still makes me laugh out loud :joker:


Ironic given he is the biggest one

[Garfie]

..they can refer to Sian as they wish to, with whatever terminology they choose to use..(..whether it’s merited or not..)....but the irony comes when they’ve judged and criticised others for their wording and terminology as well...as with sexual talk...their ‘level’ and terminology is okay and dandy and acceptable apparently...but the others use of terminology is quite base and crude and unacceptable to them...they make the rules and they scream the rules... but they don’t practice them, is the thing for me...

You are right. They have one rule for themselves but are highly bitter towards and critical of anyone who behaves as they do. It always makes me laugh the way the irony is so lost on them!

It's like they repeatedly refer to others as snakes and reptiles when they are the most poisonous and venomous pair in there. Again they totally miss the irony.

Is it called transference, when you perceive in others the behaviour you are actually displaying yourself?

[Kazanne]

I hate that word and was disappointed Lewis used it referring to her,BUT, how can people be crying over it when it is used all the time more so now than it ever was,also it was a bit random,so wondering if Zoe has told them something she has said that we haven't heard , I am pretty sure had he called someone like 'Trump' a twunt no one would have batted an eyelid,just because she has big tits and is relatively pretty doesn't make her a great housemate,she IS snide and boring.Funnyhow some are outraged over a swear word all of a sudden.

[Cherie]

That's why no one nominates her...that's obviously her game plan. Feed the...clean for them and keep out of arguements and get to the final.


Its hardly a foolproof gameplan, plenty HMs in the past have cooked and cleaned and it hasn't done them any favours

[Ammi]

You are right. They have one rule for themselves but are highly bitter towards and critical of anyone who behaves as they do. It always makes me laugh the way the irony is so lost on them!

It's like they repeatedly refer to others as snakes and reptiles when they are the most poisonous and venomous pair in there. Again they totally miss the irony.

Is it called transference, when you perceive in others the behaviour you are actually displaying yourself?

..yeah I think (..Lewis in particular..)...projects onto others...as in projecting of negativity in different and varying forms...and then he identifies and judges that negativity so will often be...’I was right, I called it’, I told you’ etc...when what he’s judging and calling is coming from him as the starting point...cause and effect...:laugh:..

[Cherie]

You've just reminded me, how did Lewis F not have his nominations taken away from him after he blatantly discussed nominations with Cameron? Cameron repeatedly even said that he didn't want to discuss nominations yet Lewis F kept doing it anyway.

And with the word ****, it should only be used when the person has done something disgraceful and imo Sian hasn't.

Yeah I was disappointed in BB with that but its part of the manipulation as they wouldn't have got the result they wanted for noms

[joeysteele]

Pretty sure it was Lewis,and as much as I hate that word ,people have been reffered to as much worse

It was Lewis not to her but about her.
There's a difference.

My mate was hammering a nail in the wall and hit his thumb, he called the hammer it.

The sad thing is now, swear and strongly swear words are everyday use.
I hear kids use it even when they play football.

I hate the word, I hate f... and nsny others too.
I see no need for them but I come across all just as everyday language now across all ages.

I heard a lady, an old age pensioner in the supermarket , when she dropped a carton if milk, scream '' you f....ing sod''.

It's sad but it's fact.

As for Sian, I said earlier, it's puzzling to me anyone even realises she's still there to say anything about her.
It's mostly when she gets a mention from others she gets airtime as she does and says really nothing, what we see anyway,.

Maybe if we had seen more, we'd see why some have such strong feelings building against her.
The word is bad, along however with many other bad words,that sadly now are part of everyday chat unfortunately.

[Cherie]

The worst we've heard her say is call Lewis an idiot which he is .
I don't recall her calling anyone a C ... .

I'm not even a Sian fan ,but its gotten to the point where Lewis & Cameron can do no wrong. It's like they think they own the house :bored: .

Goldie :clap1:

[Garfie]

I don't like swearing, but he's not wrong about Sian. She's not as nicey nice as she tries to appear. She's a shallow, bitchy and malicious.

Whether his opinion of Sian is true or not, it doesn't justify the use of that word.

I don't particularly care for Sian but you use the words 'bitchy and malicious' to crticisize her when, in fact, Lewis is the most guilty of these characteristics, and yet he's excused and defended for being that way. :shrug: She's said just a couple of bitchy things during the whole series, when he says numerous every episode so I just don't get why she is criticised but he isn't. It seems illogical to me.

I would not support a favourite mindlessly, but always remain objective enough to admit when a favourite has done wrong. And if they cross certain lines repeatedly then they become indefensible to me, and lose my support. As Lewis has done.

[Cherie]

what did she do? Is this because they believe Zoe that she was responsible for the Lewis being up for eviction?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I find it amazing they've realised she's still there.
She got a mention from them.
Nothing worth showing directly from her herself

I might call your daughter a **** then and see how you like it

[Cherie]

Whether his opinion of Sian is true or not, it doesn't justify the use of that word.

I don't particularly care for Sian but you use the words 'bitchy and malicious' to crticisize her when, in fact, Lewis is the most guilty of these characteristics, and yet he's excused and defended for being that way. :shrug: She's said just a couple of bitchy things during the whole series, when he says numerous every episode so I just don't get why she is criticised but he isn't. It seems illogical to me.

I would not support a favourite mindlessly, but always remain objective enough to admit when a favourite has done wrong. And if they cross certain lines repeatedly then they become indefensible to me, and lose my support. As Lewis has done.


:clap1: Garfie

[bots]

Do people honestly believe Sian isn't capable of dealing with someone that calls her that? :laugh:

Water off a ducks back and all that. I believe Sian would be a great adversary for Lewis if he were to take that route, he wouldn't win.

[Vanessa]

Whether his opinion of Sian is true or not, it doesn't justify the use of that word.

I don't particularly care for Sian but you use the words 'bitchy and malicious' to crticisize her when, in fact, Lewis is the most guilty of these characteristics, and yet he's excused and defended for being that way. :shrug: She's said just a couple of bitchy things during the whole series, when he says numerous every episode so I just don't get why she is criticised but he isn't. It seems illogical to me.

I would not support a favourite mindlessly, but always remain objective enough to admit when a favourite has done wrong. And if they cross certain lines repeatedly then they become indefensible to me, and lose my support. As Lewis has done.
She's not nice, let's put it this way

[Ammi]

..But Lewis in particular is the one who feels he owns the definition of ‘not nice’...he can be the most not nice person in the world but will never recognise his own ‘not nice’ and still feel he was nice..someone else could be a slight hint of ‘not nice’ in Lewis’ eyes and thoughts..and that will make them a reptile or a generally awful person...

[Cherie]

She's not nice, let's put it this way

based on one comment she made about Lewis attacking women again..? what else are you basing this on? she has been nothing but lovely when we have seen her in the tasks.

[Vanessa]

..But Lewis in particular is the one who feels he owns the definition of ‘not nice’...he can be the most not nice person in the world but will never recognise his own ‘not nice’ and still feel he was nice..someone else could be a slight hint of ‘not nice’ in Lewis’ eyes and thoughts..and that will make them a reptile or a generally awful person...
For me Sian is very one dimensional as a person. At least Lewis has many sides to his personality. That's the difference for me.

[Garfie]

She's not nice, let's put it this way

You might well be right, Vanessa, and I wouldn't disagree with you here but I don't know that I've seen enough of her to be able to form any real judgement of her. She's largely been an invisible character in the background, doing and saying little from my perspective. And that's my biggest issue with her.

[Cherie]

For me Sian is very one dimensional as a person. At least Lewis has many sides to his personality. That's the difference for me.

well she has at least three dimensions, we saw her being very upset when Isaac and Kenaley left and felt their loss, she has been very nice in tasks and open to helping others, she has been spot on in her observations and she has dry wit which is being classed as being bitchy...I don't believe it is

[Garfie]

For me Sian is very one dimensional as a person. At least Lewis has many sides to his personality. That's the difference for me.

From what we've seen I absolutely agree with this, Vanessa. Lewis definitely has the more complex, and therefore more interesting personality, which does make him much more fascinating to watch, even if it doesn't make him more likeable to some.

[Vanessa]

You might well be right, Vanessa, and I wouldn't disagree with you here but I don't know that I've seen enough of her to be able to form any real judgement of her. She's largely been an invisible character in the background, doing and saying little from my perspective. And that's my biggest issue with her.
She's staying quiet on purpose, to get to the final and win. But entertainment wise she has given us nothing.

[Cherie]

She's staying quiet on purpose, to get to the final and win. But entertainment wise she has given us nothing.

:facepalm:

[Ammi]

For me Sian is very one dimensional as a person. At least Lewis has many sides to his personality. That's the difference for me.

...no one is one dimensional, Vanessa..it’s just that she has been judged by Lewis in particular as her dimensions not being on a par of ‘superior’ enough...he has no interest in the many sides of the personality of others...he doesn’t even attempt to get to know the sides to people...he just withdraws and isolates himself...he really isn’t a people person at all and yet he feels he knows people enough to judge them...

[Niamh.]

Can someone give me a brief summary, BOTS is on way too late for me

[Garfie]

She's staying quiet on purpose, to get to the final and win. But entertainment wise she has given us nothing.

Again, you could well be right, and I think this was Lewis' criticism of her, and that's fair enough. I have no objection if that is his opinion of her.

However, if that's the worst that can be said of her, I don't get why it justifies such venomous criticism of her from Lewis, or how it makes her a reptile or a ****. It just seems like a very extreme reaction to me. :shrug:

[Cherie]

Again, you could well be right, and I think this was Lewis' criticism of her, and that's fair enough. I have no objection if that is his opinion of her.

However, if that's the worst that can be said of her, I don't get why it justifies such venomous criticism of her from Lewis, or how it makes her a reptile or a ****. It just seems like a very extreme reaction to me. :shrug:


He thinks she put him up for eviction via the mystery box courtesy of Zoe, I think this will increase support for Sian

[Vanessa]

Again, you could well be right, and I think this was Lewis' criticism of her, and that's fair enough. I have no objection if that is his opinion of her.

However, if that's the worst that can be said of her, I don't get why it justifies such venomous criticism of her from Lewis, or how it makes her a reptile or a ****. It just seems like a very extreme reaction to me. :shrug:

Yes, i also don't like the swearing. But i think he meant that she's cooking and cleaning as a way to avoid getting nominated. Also staying away from arguments and never saying out loud what she thinks.

[joeysteele]

I might call your daughter a **** then and see how you like it

You'd have a hard job I haven't one.

However I've heard other peoples daughters call men it and them call other girls too.

[Garfie]

...no one is one dimensional, Vanessa..it’s just that she has been judged by Lewis in particular as her dimensions not being on a par of ‘superior’ enough...he has no interest in the many sides of the personality of others...he doesn’t even attempt to get to know the sides to people...he just withdraws and isolates himself...he really isn’t a people person at all and yet he feels he knows people enough to judge them...

I think she is perceived as one-dimensional only because she has hardly been shown at all, so the producers haven't enabled us to know her personality. I guess, in Vanessa's defence, if you are judging her as a character in a tv entertainment show, this is description is fair. However, if we remember she is a human being first, then it isn't.

I believe your perception of Lewis is very true. It is yet another irony in his character.

[Cherie]

I think she is perceived as one-dimensional only because she has hardly been shown at all, so the producers haven't enabled us to know her personality. I guess, in Vanessa's defence, if you are judging her as a character in a tv entertainment show, this is description is fair. However, if we remember she is a human being first, then it isn't.

I believe your perception of Lewis is very true. It is yet another irony in his character.

I disagree, just because she hasn't been involved in arguments, we have seen her, in tasks and also her facial expressions and reactions which can be far more informative than fake interactions, that is what I love about BB which is why I could never understand people saying oh I have it on in the background, you have to watch it because it can just be a quick cut of a camera to a look or body movement

[Garfie]

Yes, i also don't like the swearing. But i think he meant that she's cooking and cleaning as a way to avoid getting nominated. Also staying away from arguments and never saying out loud what she thinks.

Well, if that's the reason for his response, it's a good job he isn't married to her then.....!

'You've been cooking and cleaning, and are non-confrontational, you ****,' ranted Lewis when he arrived home after a hard day's work. 'How bloody dare you!?'

[Vanessa]

I think she is perceived as one-dimensional only because she has hardly been shown at all, so the producers haven't enabled us to know her personality. I guess, in Vanessa's defence, if you are judging her as a character in a tv entertainment show, this is description is fair. However, if we remember she is a human being first, then it isn't.

I believe your perception of Lewis is very true. It is yet another irony in his character.
She just comes across as cold to me. Unlike Zoe, who i think is the opposite : warm hearted and friendly.

[Vanessa]

Well, if that's the reason for his response, it's a good job he isn't married to her then.....!

'You've been cooking and cleaning, and are non-confrontational, you ****,' ranted Lewis when he arrived home after a hard day's work. 'How bloody dare you!?'

In the House cooking and cleaning is a well known strategy to avoid getting nominated.

[Garfie]

I disagree, just because she hasn't been involved in arguments, we have seen her, in tasks and also her facial expressions and reactions which can be far more informative than fake interactions, that is what I love about BB which is why I could never understand people saying oh I have it on in the background, you have to watch it because it can just be a quick cut of a camera to a look or body movement

I agree with you here, Cherie. And I'm not for one moment seeing her as one-dimensional, but just suggesting the reason why some people might see her that way.

And you're so right about having to watch, rather than just have it on in the background. Some of Sian's expressions in particular have been very telling, without her saying a word.

[Nancy.]

Like Sian has said very little for 4 weeks apart from making snide bitchy comments behind people's backs..

Yes, the only time she opens her mouth is to make bitchy comments about Lewis or Cameron, yet that's seems to be ok apparently. :shrug:

[Cherie]

In the House cooking and cleaning is a well known strategy to avoid getting nominated.

It has never worked in all the years of BB how would it work now, in fact it has got on peoples nerves...remember Hardeep.... its not a master strategy, anyway St Zoe cooks as well

[Aaliyah]

Disgusting vile pair.

[Niamh.]

It has never worked in all the years of BB how would it work now, in fact it has got on peoples nerves...remember Hardeep.... its not a master strategy, anyway St Zoe cooks as well

I reckon I'd cook alot if I were in there, just because well one I like cooking and it would give me something to do and two I'd rather not eat something aload of messy strangers made :worry:

[Ammi]

In the House cooking and cleaning is a well known strategy to avoid getting nominated.

...it’s a well known flop/fail strategy if it’s the only attribute of someone though, Vanessa...:laugh:...so it really was a dumb thought process tbh...

[Kazanne]

She just comes across as cold to me. Unlike Zoe, who i think is the opposite : warm hearted and friendly.

This for me aswell , I feel you could have a good old laugh with Zoe, and act around a bit Sian would be too scared of breaking a nail.

[Elliot]

Lmao yeah Zoe is so warm heated and friendly dropping her friends for guilt by association unlike that nasty cow Sian who ykno has done nothing to warrant being called cold. And apparently this is all an excuse for Cameron and Lewis calling her a ****

God u couldn’t make this **** up

[joeysteele]

This for me aswell , I feel you could have a good old laugh with Zoe, and act around a bit Sian would be too scared of breaking a nail.

:joker::joker: she near always seems to be fiddling on with her nails.
What a thing to be only remembered for in the main.:joker:

[Kazanne]

Lmao yeah Zoe is so warm heated and friendly dropping her friends for guilt by association unlike that nasty cow Sian who ykno has done nothing to warrant being called cold. And apparently this is all an excuse for Cameron and Lewis calling her a ****

God u couldn’t make this **** up

No one has excused him ,I think most on here thought it wasn't nice , but on the other hand is it really so bad given this word is bandied about everywhere now , even on here , don't be taking that high moral ground when others have been called much worse , no one has to like Sian ,same as no one has to like Lewis or Cam, to call her that was wrong , but we all do it if we feel someone has slated us. you are right,you couldn't write some of this stuff.

[Nancy.]

Lmao yeah Zoe is so warm heated and friendly dropping her friends for guilt by association unlike that nasty cow Sian who ykno has done nothing to warrant being called cold. And apparently this is all an excuse for Cameron and Lewis calling her a ****

God u couldn’t make this **** up

IIRC, It was Cian who dropped Zoe like a hot potato the moment Isabella went in, so i'm not surprised she went off him. I don't mind Cian but he doesn't seem very loyal, imo.

[bots]

this is apparently a transcript of whats said ......


Lewis: I'm telling you now, she's hiding in plain sight as a dinner lady. Don't know what her problem with me is, she's a f-ing snake, I'm telling you now. Doing her little housewife image so everyone's f-ing 'Oh Sian cooks the food, Sian cleans up'. Little snake. She's a little weasel, in and out of that DR, acting all quiet and innocent in here.
(Imitates Sian): 'Erm, mmmm, mmm, I'm making tea for everyone, I'm cleaning up'.
(Reverts to Lewis): Fair enough, you do the chores, I can cook, I can clean. If she went I'd cook and clean for everyone, it's not a big deal. She's assumed the role of mother of the house, and she's a floater, she's floating her way to the final.

Cameron: For some reason people can't seem to see what's f-ing staring them in the face in this house. It literally has to happen before anyone sees it, but you're the overthinker because you think of things before it f-ing happens. WTF....

Lewis: Exactly. F-- off you f-ing fake c---. This house is full of f-ing reptiles. Fake c---s".


Delightful ......

[Cherie]

this is apparently a transcript of whats said ......


Lewis: I'm telling you now, she's hiding in plain sight as a dinner lady. Don't know what her problem with me is, she's a f-ing snake, I'm telling you now. Doing her little housewife image so everyone's f-ing 'Oh Sian cooks the food, Sian cleans up'. Little snake. She's a little weasel, in and out of that DR, acting all quiet and innocent in here.
(Imitates Sian): 'Erm, mmmm, mmm, I'm making tea for everyone, I'm cleaning up'.
(Reverts to Lewis): Fair enough, you do the chores, I can cook, I can clean. If she went I'd cook and clean for everyone, it's not a big deal. She's assumed the role of mother of the house, and she's a floater, she's floating her way to the final.

Cameron: For some reason people can't seem to see what's f-ing staring them in the face in this house. It literally has to happen before anyone sees it, but you're the overthinker because you think of things before it f-ing happens. WTF....

Lewis: Exactly. F-- off you f-ing fake c---. This house is full of f-ing reptiles. Fake c---s".


Delightful ......

and yet Sian is the nasty one :hee: I wouldn't wipe my feet on Lewis as it stands

[GoldHeart]

BB needs to play back their bitchy conversations especially to Sian when they called her that word :nono: .

I'm so fed up of them getting away with this behavior.
Zoe's bitter sessions should be played back into the house as well.

[Kazanne]

this is apparently a transcript of whats said ......


Lewis: I'm telling you now, she's hiding in plain sight as a dinner lady. Don't know what her problem with me is, she's a f-ing snake, I'm telling you now. Doing her little housewife image so everyone's f-ing 'Oh Sian cooks the food, Sian cleans up'. Little snake. She's a little weasel, in and out of that DR, acting all quiet and innocent in here.
(Imitates Sian): 'Erm, mmmm, mmm, I'm making tea for everyone, I'm cleaning up'.
(Reverts to Lewis): Fair enough, you do the chores, I can cook, I can clean. If she went I'd cook and clean for everyone, it's not a big deal. She's assumed the role of mother of the house, and she's a floater, she's floating her way to the final.

Cameron: For some reason people can't seem to see what's f-ing staring them in the face in this house. It literally has to happen before anyone sees it, but you're the overthinker because you think of things before it f-ing happens. WTF....

Lewis: Exactly. F-- off you f-ing fake c---. This house is full of f-ing reptiles. Fake c---s".


Delightful ......


Looks like he was quite generous though and gave them all that title,:hehe:

[Denver]

Wow what a surprise Lewis going for another woman

[ConnorTheJudge]

BB needs to play back their bitchy conversations especially to Sian when they called her that word :nono: .

I'm so fed up of them getting away with this behavior.
Zoe's bitter sessions should be played back into the house as well.
Should they play back Sian's bitchy comments about Lewis too?

[ConnorTheJudge]

Sian would tear lewis limb from limb in an argument, so it should be interesting
Very much doubt it. She struggles to construct a sentence together properly.

[GoldHeart]

Should they play back Sian's bitchy comments about Lewis too?

Yes everything!!! .
They use to show everyone's Nominations on the screen,they should do that as well.

[Jordan.]

this is apparently a transcript of whats said ......


Lewis: I'm telling you now, she's hiding in plain sight as a dinner lady. Don't know what her problem with me is, she's a f-ing snake, I'm telling you now. Doing her little housewife image so everyone's f-ing 'Oh Sian cooks the food, Sian cleans up'. Little snake. She's a little weasel, in and out of that DR, acting all quiet and innocent in here.
(Imitates Sian): 'Erm, mmmm, mmm, I'm making tea for everyone, I'm cleaning up'.
(Reverts to Lewis): Fair enough, you do the chores, I can cook, I can clean. If she went I'd cook and clean for everyone, it's not a big deal. She's assumed the role of mother of the house, and she's a floater, she's floating her way to the final.

Cameron: For some reason people can't seem to see what's f-ing staring them in the face in this house. It literally has to happen before anyone sees it, but you're the overthinker because you think of things before it f-ing happens. WTF....

Lewis: Exactly. F-- off you f-ing fake c---. This house is full of f-ing reptiles. Fake c---s".


Delightful ......

Shocking there's people who defend this.

[joeysteele]

Looks like he was quite generous though and gave them all that title,:hehe:

He does.

As I say I hate the word and near all swear words.
As you say too which I agree with and have given examples of.
It's now just another word sadly that is in everyday use.

[saiwong]

Lewis F is deluded :crazy:

I bet if Mother Teresa was in the house Lewis F would say the same things about her

[rusticgal]

Well he was spot on with what he said....

Now we know what she's been up to..no wonder she's still there.

[susie q]

Like Sian has said very little for 4 weeks apart from making snide bitchy comments behind people's backs..

That still doesnt justify them calling her such a vile name. Those 2 really do prove that misogyny still exists, even among young men. Which is sad in this day and age, even sadder still that women still enable it.

[susie q]

Yes, strange that hasn't been mentioned by BB or discussed with him in the diary room. I hope it isn't swept under the carpet, but affects his opportunity to vote in the next round of nominations.

Thats what used to happen, so I hope so to.

[reece(:]

this is apparently a transcript of whats said ......


Lewis: I'm telling you now, she's hiding in plain sight as a dinner lady. Don't know what her problem with me is, she's a f-ing snake, I'm telling you now. Doing her little housewife image so everyone's f-ing 'Oh Sian cooks the food, Sian cleans up'. Little snake. She's a little weasel, in and out of that DR, acting all quiet and innocent in here.
(Imitates Sian): 'Erm, mmmm, mmm, I'm making tea for everyone, I'm cleaning up'.
(Reverts to Lewis): Fair enough, you do the chores, I can cook, I can clean. If she went I'd cook and clean for everyone, it's not a big deal. She's assumed the role of mother of the house, and she's a floater, she's floating her way to the final.

Cameron: For some reason people can't seem to see what's f-ing staring them in the face in this house. It literally has to happen before anyone sees it, but you're the overthinker because you think of things before it f-ing happens. WTF....

Lewis: Exactly. F-- off you f-ing fake c---. This house is full of f-ing reptiles. Fake c---s".


Delightful ......

Eww he's horrendous.

[hijaxers]

Sian is a mother cooks and cleans for the whole house, they are such vile beings.

No she does not !

Talk about rose tinted glasses, the only thing i've noticed she's good at is getting her tits out .

[lewys]

this is apparently a transcript of whats said ......


Lewis: I'm telling you now, she's hiding in plain sight as a dinner lady. Don't know what her problem with me is, she's a f-ing snake, I'm telling you now. Doing her little housewife image so everyone's f-ing 'Oh Sian cooks the food, Sian cleans up'. Little snake. She's a little weasel, in and out of that DR, acting all quiet and innocent in here.
(Imitates Sian): 'Erm, mmmm, mmm, I'm making tea for everyone, I'm cleaning up'.
(Reverts to Lewis): Fair enough, you do the chores, I can cook, I can clean. If she went I'd cook and clean for everyone, it's not a big deal. She's assumed the role of mother of the house, and she's a floater, she's floating her way to the final.

Cameron: For some reason people can't seem to see what's f-ing staring them in the face in this house. It literally has to happen before anyone sees it, but you're the overthinker because you think of things before it f-ing happens. WTF....

Lewis: Exactly. F-- off you f-ing fake c---. This house is full of f-ing reptiles. Fake c---s".


Delightful ......

and yet the people who love lewis say they hate sian because she's 'bitchy' and 'vile', lewis literally said this behind ha back lmao he is gross !!1

[montblanc]

No she does not !

Talk about rose tinted glasses, the only thing i've noticed she's good at is getting her tits out .

some of the boys walk around with less clothes than she does.

[Cherie]

That still doesnt justify them calling her such a vile name. Those 2 really do prove that misogyny still exists, even among young men. Which is sad in this day and age, even sadder still that women still enable it.

:clap1:

[Jordan.]

No she does not !

Talk about rose tinted glasses, the only thing i've noticed she's good at is getting her tits out .

Talk about cataracts

[montblanc]

why are they being so nasty though :skull:

[Cherie]

Well he was spot on with what he said....

Now we know what she's been up to..no wonder she's still there.

How awful of her to do some cooking, she needs shooting

[Cherie]

why are they being so nasty though :skull:

Because Lewis is nasty and he drags Cameron down to gutter level

[saiwong]

why are they being so nasty though :skull:

they prey on who they perceive as the weaker housemates
who have less chance to fight back.


Lewis F has a tendency to pick on female housemates because he thinks he can just shout them down. Lewis is just a big bully. Cameron has become the bully's lackey.

[AnnieK]

Lol.....people have read that transcript and are calling sian bitchy? That there is bitching personified. Lewis and Cameron and Zoe do it so much now that i wonder if they can have a non bitchy conversation.

[jaxie]

Shocking there's people who defend this.

It really is. I mean I have favourites sure, but defending that kind of behaviour?? And saying stuff like it's an everyday word now. It's an unacceptable word, very derogatory to women.

Actually watching him rant is worse than the transcript because its said with such venom.

And then people on this thread are claiming Sian is a vile bitch constantly getting her tits out because she cooks and cleans and is quiet. You couldn't make it up.

[Elliot]

Shocking there's people who defend this.

ill say

[joeysteele]

It really is. I mean I have favourites sure, but defending that kind of behaviour?? And saying stuff like it's an everyday word now. It's an unacceptable word, very derogatory to women.

Actually watching him rant is worse than the transcript because its said with such venom.

And then people on this thread are claim Sian is a vile bitch because she cooks and cleans and is quiet. You couldn't make it up.

Oh give it a rest.

It is a word in everyday use by schokids too.
Don't try to tell me you haven't cone across it.

They think, wrongly, that Sian gave the killer nom.
If BB told them Hussain had coins, they may look in the right direction.

No one is defending, they were 2 people taking together and he said it in that context, he didn't go and call her it to her face.
I hate swear words but I hear this one and worse, in my work, just walking out with my dog, and from school lads playing football.
Plus girls at other girls and girls to lads and vice versa.

You'd need to be on another planet not go have come across it.

In there they all get paranoid.
So he used a really bad word, in what anywhere else would have been a private conversation.

I would have pulled him up on it possibly, certainly if he had said it directly to her.
It's is not however the crime of the century, no matter how much his haters paint it as.

[Kazanne]

Oh give it a rest.

It is a word in everyday use by schokids too.
Don't try to tell me you haven't cone across it.

They think, wrongly, that Sian gave the killer nom.
If BB told them Hussain had coins, they may look in the right direction.

No one is defending, they were 2 people taking together and he said it in that context, he didn't go and call her it to her face.
I hate swear words but I hear this one and worse, in my work, just walking out with my dog, and from school lads playing football.
Plus girls at other girls and girls to lads and vice versa.

You'd need to be on another planet not go have come across it.

In there they all get paranoid.
So he used a really bad word, in what anywhere else would have been a private conversation.

I would have pulled him up on it possibly, certainly if he had said it directly to her.
It's is not however the crime of the century, no matter how much his haters paint it as.

At last a voice of reason, hey Joey what do you think the reaction on here would be had Someone called Lewis a twunt ? :joker::joker:

[Yaki da]

Who said it was the crime of the century? It's not even a crime. It is however further proof of what an obnoxious human being he is.

Most men don't say that word. Most people don't. Sometimes men say it about other men. Rarely do they say it about a woman unless they're particularly ill-educated.

[GoldHeart]

Who said it was the crime of the century? It's not even a crime. It is however further proof of what an obnoxious human being he is.

Most men don't say that word. Most people don't. Sometimes men say it about other men. Rarely do they say it about a woman unless they're particularly ill-educated.

:clap1:

Plus if Sian treated Lewis badly then it would make sense,but Lewis & Cameron enjoy insulting housemates just for being alive.

Remember what he said about Anamelia "breathing next to him " :umm2:

[jaxie]

Oh give it a rest.

It is a word in everyday use by schokids too.
Don't try to tell me you haven't cone across it.

They think, wrongly, that Sian gave the killer nom.
If BB told them Hussain had coins, they may look in the right direction.

No one is defending, they were 2 people taking together and he said it in that context, he didn't go and call her it to her face.
I hate swear words but I hear this one and worse, in my work, just walking out with my dog, and from school lads playing football.
Plus girls at other girls and girls to lads and vice versa.

You'd need to be on another planet not go have come across it.

In there they all get paranoid.
So he used a really bad word, in what anywhere else would have been a private conversation.

I would have pulled him up on it possibly, certainly if he had said it directly to her.
It's is not however the crime of the century, no matter how much his haters paint it as.

It doesn't make the use of it any less vile.


The highlighted parts, can you show me where I said that? Thanks. :hee:

[jaxie]

At last a voice of reason, hey Joey what do you think the reaction on here would be had Someone called Lewis a twunt ? :joker::joker:

Probably the same, it's a vile thing to say about someone, particularly someone who hasn't actually done anything to you. I dislike Lewis intensely, have you seen me call him that?

[Jase.]

It'll be very interesting to see if this is included in the highlights. There's been a couple of scenes (Lew's argument with Kenny, him being really nasty about Akeem to Cameron) which were shown on BOTS that never made it to the main highlights show the following day.

[montblanc]

It'll be very interesting to see if this is included in the highlights. There's been a couple of scenes (Lew's argument with Kenny, him being really nasty about Akeem to Cameron) which were shown on BOTS that never made it to the main highlights show the following day.

i doubt it as it could increase his chances of getting evicted :rolleyes:

[Yaki da]

It'll be very interesting to see if this is included in the highlights. There's been a couple of scenes (Lew's argument with Kenny, him being really nasty about Akeem to Cameron) which were shown on BOTS that never made it to the main highlights show the following day.

Possibly not. Victor calling Shell the C word got him evicted over Jason when Jason was the big favourite to go the night before. It never goes down well with an audience.

[jaxie]

It'll be very interesting to see if this is included in the highlights. There's been a couple of scenes (Lew's argument with Kenny, him being really nasty about Akeem to Cameron) which were shown on BOTS that never made it to the main highlights show the following day.

I linked the bots and the time of the clip in a new thread for anyone who wants to watch it because I hate when people are talking about something and you can't reference it.

[GoldHeart]

It'll be very interesting to see if this is included in the highlights. There's been a couple of scenes (Lew's argument with Kenny, him being really nasty about Akeem to Cameron) which were shown on BOTS that never made it to the main highlights show the following day.

Yeah it's suspicious how all those got cut out , even him bitching about Anamelia calling her a bitch to Cameron also got cut out.

Not many people watch BOTS ,so there's alot they're missing.

[GoldHeart]

Possibly not. Victor calling Shell the C word got him evicted over Jason when Jason was the big favourite to go the night before. It never goes down well with an audience.

Shell was the one that called Victor the C word !! , She expected him to still dance with her for the task after she just said to him "Victor you're an efffing C " :facepalm: .

I only remember Victor calling Dan the c word after he tried getting involved in the argument.

[EllieBrownFan]

Even Zoe who has this extreme on sided hatred for Sian knows better than to call her a ****. Stop making excuses just because he’s an attractive male, I cannot imagine the outburst people would have if he was a woman of color.

[Nancy.]

At last a voice of reason, hey Joey what do you think the reaction on here would be had Someone called Lewis a twunt ? :joker::joker:

They would've LOVED it, Kaz. If Sian had called Lewis that she would've been hailed a "Queen" who "ended him" (Or ha as they ridiculously parrot on here nowadays)

[Elliot]

They would've LOVED it, Kaz. If Sian had called Lewis that she would've been hailed a "Queen" who "ended him" (Or ha as they ridiculously parrot on here nowadays)

we love psychic sally !

[Amy Jade]

They would've LOVED it, Kaz. If Sian had called Lewis that she would've been hailed a "Queen" who "ended him" (Or ha as they ridiculously parrot on here nowadays)

If Sian had called Cameron a **** I would say she was gross and in the wrong.

Saying those type of things on tv with their family watching is disgusting.

[AnnieK]

It would seem that Lewis and Cameron are easily forgiven. They both have serious potty mouths and can not speak a sentence without it being littered with a litany of expletives. Personally, swearing doesn't bother me in the slightest, its just words BUT the word Lewis has used there offends many....whether its used widely is beside the point, it was used in an offensive and derogatory way. The fact that is was used behind the person who it was aimed at is worse for me.....If you're going to use that word at a person, be big enough to say it to their face. Whilst I'm certainly no fan of Lewis I find him fascinating, this constant bitching is so tiresome now

[Yaki da]

Shell was the one that called Victor the C word

That's right. I got it wrong. But he was gunning for all her day because he knew she nominated him. And him going mad at her was what got him evicted.

[Cherie]

They would've LOVED it, Kaz. If Sian had called Lewis that she would've been hailed a "Queen" who "ended him" (Or ha as they ridiculously parrot on here nowadays)

He would have deserved it though, Sian being quite and going about her business and not doing anything to them doesn't deserve it does she? she purposely avoids interacting with Lewis as well, and we can see why

[GoldHeart]

That's right. I got it wrong. But he was gunning for all her day because he knew she nominated him. And him going mad at her was what got him evicted.

Yeah I agree ,
I actually liked Victor he was a character like marmite .

I don't think he had a chance of surviving eviction , even when he made up with Shell & Dan it was still too late .