describing how best to do the drop the ball task

[Cherie]

:love:


then Mr Misogny following up with the same method "because he didn't hear what she said' put the little woman in her dinner lady place eh?

[Niamh.]

And the filthy look he gave her too

[Cherie]

:skull:

[Kazanne]

Jesus wept.

[bots]

yeah, and it was nice to see her close with Cian

[Cherie]

Jesus wept.

He did indeed at the terrible treatment of women

[Kazanne]

yeah, and it was nice to see her close with Cian

Yes,good job there are no more newbies going in,he'de drop her like a tarts knickers

[Vanessa]

Lewis breathing : omg Lewis is so evil! Blah blah blah

[bots]

Yes,good job there are no more newbies going in,he'de drop her like a tarts knickers

he didn't drop Zoe, Zoe dropped Zoe

[Cherie]

Lewis breathing : omg Lewis is so evil! Blah blah blah

and? we are here to talk about housemates, no one is stopping you from making endless threads about him

[Kazanne]

:love:


then Mr Misogny following up with the same method "because he didn't hear what she said' put the little woman in her dinner lady place eh?

maybe he didn't hear her :shrug:

[Cherie]

maybe he didn't hear her :shrug:

maybe not, she was only sat one person away from her though :laugh:

[Kazanne]

maybe not, she was only sat one person away from her though :laugh:

And also other people chatting,but lets just say he hates women

[bots]

And also other people chatting,but lets just say he hates women

well, he hasn't shown much respect for women in particular, has he

[joeysteele]

maybe he didn't hear her :shrug:

That Kazanne, will never be accepted as a possibility re Lewis.

I've often been sat with 3 or 4 people, one has said something, then I or another not have heard what they said.

Of course it's likely, more likely than not he hadn't heard her.
Lewis isn't really that endeared to Sian anyway.

Probably even forgot she was even there

[Kazanne]

well, he hasn't shown much respect for women in particular, has he

And vice versa,anyway they should all be on a level playing field ,where's the equality ?

[Jack_]

Wow

Groundbreaking television

[Cherie]

Wow

Groundbreaking television

its the small things that do it for me on BB and you can cut out the sarcasm

[bots]

And vice versa,anyway they should all be on a level playing field ,where's the equality ?

nothing at all wrong with equality. I think we are just seeing things from completely different perspectives on this series ... which is a shame given its the last one

[Jack_]

its the small things that do it for me on BB and you can cut out the sarcasm

I'll do that when you cut out the passive aggression

[Cherie]

I'll do that when you cut out the passive aggression

:umm2: where have I been passive aggressive to you? point it out

[Jack_]

:umm2: where have I been passive aggressive to you? point it out

Sorry to hear you are embarrassed. :shrug:

:joker:

xx

[Cherie]

xx

I found Jaxies comment funny, nothing passive aggressive about that at all unless of course you think everything is about you :umm2:

[Elliot]

I rmemeber hussain saying when he first came in he expected sian to be a bore, much like the rest of us, and that living with her has confirmed it not to be the case. Such a shame genuinely nice and quirky housemates like sian aren’t being done justice in favour of paranoid adult babies like Lewis. I just hope the final week is freed from the camera hoggers so the true characters can rise to the top

[Niamh.]

xx

I found Jaxies comment funny, nothing passive aggressive about that at all unless of course you think everything is about you :umm2:

tbf Jack the "xx" is far more passive aggressive than someone laughing at someone elses comment

[Jack_]

I found Jaxies comment funny, nothing passive aggressive about that at all unless of course you think everything is about you :umm2:

The comment was about me so...um? You know full well what you were doing

tbf Jack the "xx" is far more passive aggressive than someone laughing at someone elses comment

That was deliberate though. If someone's passive aggressive to me I will give it back like for like, same with people being patronising or baiting

[Niamh.]

xx

The comment was about me so...um? You know full well what you were doing



That was deliberate though. If someone's passive aggressive to me I will give it back like for like, same with people being patronising or baiting

Oh so it's ok when you do it? :laugh:

[DouglasS]

I am liking Sian more and more. I still think shes dull, but she surprisingly has brains and wit. She is one of the few normal ones in there

[Jordan.]

Unless it's the sound of his own voice he isn't interested

[Cherie]

The comment was about me so...um? You know full well what you were doing



That was deliberate though. If someone's passive aggressive to me I will give it back like for like, same with people being patronising or baiting

I would have done the same if it were any member, I don’t single you out for special treatment, :laugh: I have seen you do the same thing on numerous occasions, so glasss houses and all that

[Jack_]

Oh so it's ok when you do it? :laugh:

When did I say that? :shrug:

I said if someone's passive aggressive to me, I will respond in kind. If someone patronises me, I will do the same. If someone baits me, I'll bait them back. If someone tries to have a civilised discussion with me, I'll be civil too. I've said this so many times over the years, the large majority of the time on this forum I follow other people's lead, they dictate how the conversation is going to go

If people want to be passive aggressive or sarcastic or whatever I don't really care (it was Cherie who had the initial issue remember), I can do the same...but don't give out what you can't take

[Jack_]

I would have done the same if it were any member, I don’t single you out for special treatment, :laugh: I have seen you do the same thing on numerous occasions, so glasss houses and all that

If people want to be passive aggressive or sarcastic or whatever I don't really care (it was Cherie who had the initial issue remember), I can do the same...but don't give out what you can't take

You were the one who took issue with the sarcasm, not me

[Niamh.]

When did I say that? :shrug:

I said if someone's passive aggressive to me, I will respond in kind. If someone patronises me, I will do the same. If someone baits me, I'll bait them back. If someone tries to have a civilised discussion with me, I'll be civil too. I've said this so many times over the years, the large majority of the time on this forum I follow other people's lead, they dictate how the conversation is going to go

If people want to be passive aggressive or sarcastic or whatever I don't really care (it was Cherie who had the initial issue remember), I can do the same...but don't give out what you can't take

She wasn't passive aggressive in this thread towards you at all and that example you gave wasn't passive aggressive either

[jaxie]

Lewis breathing : omg Lewis is so evil! Blah blah blah

Hussein saying 'drop the ball' worse than Lewis calling Sian ac u next Tuesday behind her back. Bit of a loss of credibility there Vanessa. :shrug:

[Cherie]

You were the one who took issue with the sarcasm, not me

And were you not sarcastic? I m not denying it are you?

[jaxie]

I found Jaxies comment funny, nothing passive aggressive about that at all unless of course you think everything is about you :umm2:

I'm a funny gal! And so misunderstood. :bawling:

[Cherie]

I'm a funny gal! And so misunderstood. :bawling:

:love:

[Jack_]

She wasn't passive aggressive in this thread towards you at all and that example you gave wasn't passive aggressive either

I never said she was passive aggressive to me in this thread, but I don't agree with that at all

I made a sarcastic comment based on the content on this thread (which I would've done regardless of who made it), Cherie was the one who took issue with that so I was merely pointing out (flippantly, might I add) that if she didn't like sarcasm she could cut out her own passive aggression

I don't actually care whether she was, makes no difference to me. My point was don't give out what you can't take

[Jack_]

And were you not sarcastic? I m not denying it are you?

Of course I was sarcastic, what's your point?

You're not denying you were being passive aggressive? Thank you

[Niamh.]

I never said she was passive aggressive to me in this thread, but I don't agree with that at all

I made a sarcastic comment based on the content on this thread (which I would've done regardless of who made it), Cherie was the one who took issue with that so I was merely pointing out (flippantly, might I add) that if she didn't like sarcasm she could cut out her own passive aggression

I don't actually care whether she was, makes no difference to me. My point was don't give out what you can't take

Ok but your example of her passive aggression let you down because that wasn't an example of passive aggression

[Jack_]

Ok but your example of her passive aggression let you down because that wasn't an example of passive aggression

I don't agree with that sorry, jaxie (who was being passive aggressive to me herself in that thread actually, irony overload :joker:) made a mocking comment, Cherie chose to laugh at it but didn't engage with any of the counterarguments I was making to her and other people in that thread, I find that an example of passive aggression

[Niamh.]

I don't agree with that sorry, jaxie (who was being passive aggressive to me herself in that thread actually, irony overload :joker:) made a mocking comment, Cherie chose to laugh at it but didn't engage with any of the counterarguments I was making to her and other people in that thread, I find that an example of passive aggression

I agree that Jaxies comment was passive aggressive (sorry Jaxie :p ) but laughing at someones passive aggressive comment isn't passive aggressive itself. Cherie isn't obliged to engage in any arguments, I don't get why this would make her laughing at a comment passive aggressive

[Jordan.]

I don't agree with that sorry, jaxie (who was being passive aggressive to me herself in that thread actually, irony overload :joker:) made a mocking comment, Cherie chose to laugh at it but didn't engage with any of the counterarguments I was making to her and other people in that thread, I find that an example of passive aggression

You literally spend the whole of last night calling the majority of the forum embarrassing and ridiculous and now you wanna get high and mighty about people being passive aggressive towards you :joker:

[Jack_]

I agree that Jaxies comment was passive aggressive (sorry Jaxie :p ) but laughing at someones passive aggressive comment isn't passive aggressive itself. Cherie isn't obliged to engage in any arguments, I don't get why this would make her laughing at a comment passive aggressive

I would be more inclined to agree with you if she hadn't quoted my post, got a response and then ignored it and chose to laugh at mocking comments instead. That's not constructive, it's designed to irritate the person who is reading it

You literally spend the whole of last night calling the majority of the forum embarrassing and ridiculous and now you wanna get high and mighty about people being passive aggressive towards you :joker:

Can you explain how I'm getting high and mighty about people being passive aggressive towards me, or are you doing that TiBB thing where you're not reading posts properly?

I've literally just said I couldn't care less (this is the key phrase here, so please pay attention to it) if people want to be passive aggressive, or sarcastic, or patronising...makes no difference to me. But don't give out what you can't take, and this entire discussion began when Cherie quoted me asking me to cut out the sarcasm

[Niamh.]

I would be more inclined to agree with you if she hadn't quoted my post, got a response and then ignored it and chose to laugh at mocking comments instead. That's not constructive, it's designed to irritate the person who is reading it



Can you explain how I'm getting high and mighty about people being passive aggressive towards me, or are you doing that TiBB thing where you're not reading posts properly?

I've literally just said I couldn't care less (this is the key phrase here, so please pay attention to it) if people want to be passive aggressive, or sarcastic, or patronising...makes no difference to me. But don't give out what you can't take, and this entire discussion began when Cherie quoted me asking me to cut out the sarcasm

And the original post you made in that thread wasn't designed to irritate anyone who thought it might be rigged?(which lets be honest here, isn't exactly an out there thought) Seems like Jaxie was doing to you what you claim to do to others, responding with a like for like toned post

[Jordan.]

Can you explain how I'm getting high and mighty about people being passive aggressive towards me, or are you doing that TiBB thing where you're not reading posts properly?

I've literally just said I couldn't care less (this is the key phrase here, so please pay attention to it) if people want to be passive aggressive, or sarcastic, or patronising...makes no difference to me. But don't give out what you can't take, and this entire discussion began when Cherie quoted me asking me to cut out the sarcasm

You were the one who actually started the whole passive aggressive comments thing when you came into that thread last night making insults and looking down your nose at people for having "meltdowns" (ironic).

I've still yet to see an example of where Cherie was actually being passive agressive back towards you cause posing a single smiley certainly isn't IT :shrug:

[Jack_]

And the original post you made in that thread wasn't designed to irritate anyone who thought it might be rigged?(which lets be honest here, isn't exactly an out there thought) Seems like Jaxie was doing to you what you claim to do to others, responding with a like for like toned post

I wouldn't go as far as that, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend I wasn't boasting and mocking because I was, I found the whole thing absurd

That's not quite what I said though:

I said if someone's passive aggressive to me, I will respond in kind. If someone patronises me, I will do the same. If someone baits me, I'll bait them back. If someone tries to have a civilised discussion with me, I'll be civil too. I've said this so many times over the years, the large majority of the time on this forum I follow other people's lead, they dictate how the conversation is going to go

A conversation begins when someone responds to me, you can't have one on your own. If people start a civilised discussion (like Withano did) then I'll happily engage in a civilised manner (believe it or not I prefer that most of the time), if others want to patronise, bait or be passive aggressive then that's when I'll do the same back and respond in kind. But a conversation doesn't start until someone's quoted me! People don't have to, everyone on here should know what I'm about by now, what my thought processes are and what arguments I stand by, they're consistent and have been for almost a decade. Some people want to engage and that's cool, others just let me do me and that's fine as well :shrug: in all honestly I reckon 80% of the time it's others who quote me rather than me quoting them (i.e. starting up a conversation), I tend to just do my own thing these days

[Niamh.]

I wouldn't go as far as that, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend I wasn't boasting and mocking because I was, I found the whole thing absurd

That's not quite what I said though:



A conversation begins when someone responds to me, you can't have one on your own. If people start a civilised discussion (like Withano did) then I'll happily engage in a civilised manner (believe it or not I prefer that most of the time), if others want to patronise, bait or be passive aggressive then that's when I'll do the same back and respond in kind. But a conversation doesn't start until someone's quoted me! People don't have to, everyone on here should know what I'm about by now, what my thought processes are and what arguments I stand by, they're consistent and have been for almost a decade. Some people want to engage and that's cool, others just let me do me and that's fine as well :shrug: in all honestly I reckon 80% of the time it's others who quote me rather than me quoting them (i.e. starting up a conversation), I tend to just do my own thing these days

Well fair enough but if you're going to go into the thread and make a general comment, aimed at no one but everyone aswell you're going to get peoples backs up instantly so it's your fault for setting that tone. What you're saying is you should be able to mock people in a general way but they should then quote you respectfully if they expect you to be respectful back.

[Jack_]

You were the one who actually started the whole passive aggressive comments thing when you came into that thread last night making insults and looking down your nose at people for having "meltdowns" (ironic).

There's no irony here at all because this isn't a "meltdown" in the slightest, I'm just responding to people who are quoting me...which some others don't. Remember if Cherie had never told me to cut out the sarcasm this entire thread would never have happened, and my one small post would just be sat there on the first page :shrug:

You've misread what I've said again. I don't care if people want to be patronising, sarcastic or passive aggressive. I'm perfectly guilty of doing the same thing. What I actually said was - how a conversation goes with me is more often than not dictated by the other person. If you respond civilly (like Withano) then we can have a debate, all's good, if you want to be passive aggressive then we'll have it out...other people make the call on that. But like I said to Niamh, a conversation can't begin until someone quotes someone else!

I've still yet to see an example of where Cherie was actually being passive agressive back towards you cause posing a single smiley certainly isn't IT :shrug:

I explained this to Niamh:

I would be more inclined to agree with you if she hadn't quoted my post, got a response and then ignored it and chose to laugh at mocking comments instead. That's not constructive, it's designed to irritate the person who is reading it

[Jack_]

Well fair enough but if you're going to go into the thread and make a general comment, aimed at no one but everyone aswell you're going to get peoples backs up instantly so it's your fault for setting that tone. What you're saying is you should be able to mock people in a general way but they should then quote you respectfully if they expect you to be respectful back.

And I can accept that, like I said I don't really care whether people want to be patronising, passive aggressive or bait...whatever, we'll have it out, I'm easy. My points in this thread have mainly been "don't give out what you can't take" and that it's generally other people who dictate how conversations go with me, which is true.

The ball's in their court if they want a civilised conversation, that's what I mean. I post, other people can decide how to respond to it (if at all), and we'll go from there

[Elliot]

There's no irony here at all because this isn't a "meltdown" in the slightest, I'm just responding to people who are quoting me...which some others don't. Remember if Cherie had never told me to cut out the sarcasm this entire thread would never have happened, and my one small post would just be sat there on the first page :shrug:

You've misread what I've said again. I don't care if people want to be patronising, sarcastic or passive aggressive. I'm perfectly guilty of doing the same thing. What I actually said was - how a conversation goes with me is more often than not dictated by the other person. If you respond civilly (like Withano) then we can have a debate, all's good, if you want to be passive aggressive then we'll have it out...other people make the call on that. But like I said to Niamh, a conversation can't begin until someone quotes someone else!



I explained this to Niamh:

But it is kinda hypocritical saying people can’t take what they give when you mock the forum for being mad at obvious rigging then write essays when someone tells you to cut the sarcasm :shrug:
You clearly care, even just a little bit. If not there wouldn’t be anything to drive you back to this forum, along with everyone else here. Most people on here care about this show and want the best for it, so it can get annoying watching someone champion something they think is dreadful for the show (the Lewis rigging) which is probably what warranted the ‘passive aggressive’ posts on those threads. You have a vision for this show and series as to what would make it it’s best, and so do others. What’s annoyed me particularly about that thread is you packaged what you want from the show as the best option and anyone who’d want to watch.. idk... Sian for example has lesser taste

[Jordan.]

I don't care if people are passive aggessive towards me but if you are passive aggressive towards me then we're gonna have it out!!! :fist:

[Niamh.]

And I can accept that, like I said I don't really care whether people want to be patronising, passive aggressive or bait...whatever, we'll have it out, I'm easy. My points in this thread have mainly been "don't give out what you can't take" and that it's generally other people who dictate how conversations go with me, which is true.

The ball's in their court if they want a civilised conversation, that's what I mean. I post, other people can decide how to respond to it (if at all), and we'll go from there

Well I can't fault your honesty :laugh: but the point is in that other thread you can't really accuse others of setting the tone of the conversation/interactions with you when you came in with that mocking comment first. I will give you though that you will be happy to change your tone according to how others respond to your original mocking post :p

[Cherie]

Of course I was sarcastic, what's your point?

You're not denying you were being passive aggressive? Thank you

My point is you were sarcastic in this thread, I asked you to cut it out and then you went off and dragged some perceived slight from another thread into it, I believe you came into this thread solely to have a dig given you were annoyed about me posting a smilie to a comment made by Jaxie this morning, given many members including yourself do this on a regular basis I guess we are all passive aggressive in your book

[Cherie]

anyway can we get back to the lovely Sian and her lovely ways

BB seemed to consider it a big enough moment to put in a 45 minute highlight so it can and will be discussed

[Jack_]

But it is kinda hypocritical saying people can’t take what they give when you mock the forum for being mad at obvious rigging then write essays when someone tells you to cut the sarcasm :shrug:
You clearly care, even just a little bit. If not there wouldn’t be anything to drive you back to this forum, along with everyone else here. Most people on here care about this show and want the best for it, so it can get annoying watching someone champion something they think is dreadful for the show (the Lewis rigging) which is probably what warranted the ‘passive aggressive’ posts on those threads. You have a vision for this show and series as to what would make it it’s best, and so do others. What’s annoyed me particularly about that thread is you packaged what you want from the show as the best option and anyone who’d want to watch.. idk... Sian for example has lesser taste

Are you going to bother responding this time or shall I not bother?

That's not an example of hypocrisy at all. What's the correlation between mocking people for obvious rigging and "writing essays" when someone tells me to the cut the sarcasm? Not only does that not make sense, but it makes even less sense when you consider that my first response to Cherie in this thread was...

I'll do that when you cut out the passive aggression

...ten words long :laugh2: that's some essay!

Just to be clear though, I'm not going to dumb down my posts for you or anyone else on this forum.

As for the bit in bold, the nail has met the head! Do you not see that's exactly how I feel? And that it would explain the tone of some of my posts? Of course I care about the show (well, to an extent), that has nothing to do with caring whether people are passive aggressive/patronising/etc with me or not though.

Lastly, this is what I say to everyone who makes similar comments - of course I think my bloody opinion is right, it wouldn't be much of an opinion if I didn't :shrug: I know barely anyone agrees anymore, but I don't care, I've stuck by the same consistent arguments for almost the entire time I've been on this forum and I'm not going to change, I'm not going to try and fit in just for the sake of it, if people don't like it they don't have to respond. Like I said to Niamh, most of the time these days I turn up, post a few comments and then leave...if others choose to engage with me that's up to them, no one is asking them to

I don't care if people are passive aggessive towards me but if you are passive aggressive towards me then we're gonna have it out!!! :fist:

Congratulations on not reading my post properly again, it's a real skill!

I don't care if people want to be passive aggressive, therefore when they are I'm happy to respond in kind and have an uncivilised discussion. None of that means I "care", as you are implying. It really shouldn't be that difficult to discern what I mean

Well I can't fault your honesty :laugh: but the point is in that other thread you can't really accuse others of setting the tone of the conversation/interactions with you when you came in with that mocking comment first. I will give you though that you will be happy to change your tone according to how others respond to your original mocking post :p

I totally understand why people would respond how they do, that's cool, but they don't have to respond at all or in the same way - either/or I'm happy to proceed however :laugh: but thanks for understanding haha

[bots]

Sian more and more reminds me of this fine role model .....

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/5/5f/Mary_poppins.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070120004801

[Jack_]

My point is you were sarcastic in this thread, I asked you to cut it out and then you went off and dragged some perceived slight from another thread into it, I believe you came into this thread solely to have a dig given you were annoyed about me posting a smilie to a comment made by Jaxie this morning, given many members including yourself do this on a regular basis I guess we are all passive aggressive in your book

That's actually not true at all, I made a sarcastic comment as I would have done to anyone who started this thread because I found the OP (no offence, genuinely) a bit ridiculous :laugh:

You had a problem with that so I was flippantly pointing out that if you didn't like it you should drop the passive aggression (i.e. don't give what you can't take), and that's what started this whole thing off

[Jordan.]

Congratulations on not reading my post properly again, it's a real skill!

I don't care if people want to be passive aggressive, therefore when they are I'm happy to respond in kind and have an uncivilised discussion. None of that means I "care", as you are implying. It really shouldn't be that difficult to discern what I mean

You say you don't care but your actions speak otherwise. But sure keep spending the rest of the day trying to convice us how unbothered you are by it all :skull:

[Elliot]

Are you going to bother responding this time or shall I not bother?

That's not an example of hypocrisy at all. What's the correlation between mocking people for obvious rigging and "writing essays" when someone tells me to the cut the sarcasm? Not only does that not make sense, but it makes even less sense when you consider that my first response to Cherie in this thread was...



...ten words long :laugh2: that's some essay!

Just to be clear though, I'm not going to dumb down my posts for you or anyone else on this forum.

As for the bit in bold, the nail has met the head! Do you not see that's exactly how I feel? And that it would explain the tone of some of my posts? Of course I care about the show (well, to an extent), that has nothing to do with caring whether people are passive aggressive/patronising/etc with me or not though.

Lastly, this is what I say to everyone who makes similar comments - of course I think my bloody opinion is right, it wouldn't be much of an opinion if I didn't :shrug: I know barely anyone agrees anymore, but I don't care, I've stuck by the same consistent arguments for almost the entire time I've been on this forum and I'm not going to change, I'm not going to try and fit in just for the sake of it, if people don't like it they don't have to respond. Like I said to Niamh, most of the time these days I turn up, post a few comments and then leave...if others choose to engage with me that's up to them, no one is asking them to



Congratulations on not reading my post properly again, it's a real skill!

I don't care if people want to be passive aggressive, therefore when they are I'm happy to respond in kind and have an uncivilised discussion. None of that means I "care", as you are implying. It really shouldn't be that difficult to discern what I mean



I totally understand why people would respond how they do, that's cool, but they don't have to respond at all or in the same way - either/or I'm happy to proceed however :laugh: but thanks for understanding haha

I’m not asking you to dumb down your posts but how can you say you couldn’t care less then come out with these huge posts articulating every which way you feel? It’s almost undermining people who still care about this show/ this series
Also I didn’t respond last time because someone put what I was gonna say better than I would’ve so sorry...? :shrug:
Nobody is asking you to fit in, post less, change your opinions, not be righteous with your opinions ect ect ect again most of this is down to the ‘haha all of you being pissed off at the rigging haha’ posts in the other thread, which came off as condescending af. And you don’t have to change that either but it’s just kinda confusing because you heckle Cherie for doing something (barely) similar, that’s all.
It’s bound to cause disagreements because we’ve both conceded we all have different tastes and different things we want from this show. And I agree it probably isn’t just as blsck and white as people don’t want rigging. It’s certainly a factor but only amplified by
- it clearly being a ploy to keep a hated housemate in that I personally think is dragging the series down
- if it was implemented earlier we would’ve saw personal favourites and unique housemates like anamelia and Kay last
- they’ve been consistent with production and had seemingly ditched their sloppy c5 ways. This seemed like a 180 on their other production decisions

[Jack_]

You say you don't care but your actions speak otherwise. But sure keep spending the rest of the day trying to convice us how unbothered you are by it all :skull:

That must be the third time now you've not read a post properly! A record?

Another reminder that it wasn't me who began this discussion, it was those who responded. Unlike some others who prefer to make passive aggressive posts and avoid direct confrontation, if someone quotes me I generally tend to respond. When people stop conversing with me, I'll stop replying...so maybe it's you and they who should consider how to spend the rest of the day? :laugh:

[Jordan.]

That must be the third time now you've not read a post properly! A record?

Another reminder that it wasn't me who began this discussion, it was those who responded. Unlike some others who prefer to make passive aggressive posts and avoid direct confrontation, if someone quotes me I generally tend to respond. When people stop conversing with me, I'll stop replying...so maybe it's you and they who should consider how to spend the rest of the day? :laugh:

Cherie made the thread and YOU responded to her hun, maybe if your posts weren't full of contradictions and inaccuracies people wouldn't have such a hard time understanding them!

[Jack_]

I’m not asking you to dumb down your posts but how can you say you couldn’t care less then come out with these huge posts articulating every which way you feel? It’s almost undermining people who still care about this show/ this series

The past 24 hours are probably some of the longest posts I've made all series :skull: and they're not even about the actual show, so I'm not getting your point?

Honestly, if you look back at my posts I bet most of them over the last few weeks are one or two lines if that. The only reason these posts are so long is because so many people are responding and it's one of the first times this series anyone has engaged

Also I didn’t respond last time because someone put what I was gonna say better than I would’ve so sorry...? :shrug:

And then I asked you a question, which I asked someone else too, and you had no response.

Nobody is asking you to fit in, post less, change your opinions, not be righteous with your opinions ect ect ect again most of this is down to the ‘haha all of you being pissed off at the rigging haha’ posts in the other thread, which came off as condescending af. And you don’t have to change that either but it’s just kinda confusing because you heckle Cherie for doing something (barely) similar, that’s all.

I've not HECKLED Cherie at all omg what? :laugh2: I made a sarcastic post, she had a problem with it, I responded flippantly with a ten word post and the rest is history...that's not my doing???

It’s bound to cause disagreements because we’ve both conceded we all have different tastes and different things we want from this show. And I agree it probably isn’t just as blsck and white as people don’t want rigging. It’s certainly a factor but only amplified by
- it clearly being a ploy to keep a hated housemate in that I personally think is dragging the series down
- if it was implemented earlier we would’ve saw personal favourites and unique housemates like anamelia and Kay last
- they’ve been consistent with production and had seemingly ditched their sloppy c5 ways. This seemed like a 180 on their other production decisions

This is retreading old ground that was covered in the other thread so I don't really want to bring it here but, all I'll say quickly is:

1) I agree VTS should've been implemented pre-series, it should've been five years ago
2) Producer manipulation is part and parcel of reality television, so long as it's in the interests of a better show I don't care
3) When producer manipulation has benefited forum favourites in the past, a lot of people had no issue with it. I can admit that, so others should too

[RileyH]

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[RileyH]

Anyways we LOVE Sian!

[Jack_]

Cherie made the thread and YOU responded to her hun, maybe if your posts weren't full of contradictions and inaccuracies people wouldn't have such a hard time understanding them!

No babe, I responded to the thread, there's a clear difference. If I'd quoted her OP you might've had a point but I didn't

I've asked you to provide receipts of the contradictions and inaccuracies several times and you haven't been able to, so I'm going to take that as clarification that there aren't any and you just don't know how to respond. Unless you've finally got an answer now? I'll be waiting :hee:

[Jordan.]

No babe, I responded to the thread, there's a clear difference. If I'd quoted her OP you might've had a point but I didn't

I've asked you to provide receipts of the contradictions and inaccuracies several times and you haven't been able to, so I'm going to take that as clarification that there aren't any and you just don't know how to respond. Unless you've finally got an answer now? I'll be waiting :hee:

Oh sorry so you responded to what Cherie posted but didn't direcetly quote her therefore that wasn't you engaging a conversation with her first, my bad LMAO

& literally the entire thread is now everyone calling you out on your contradictions, what more evidence needs providing?

[Jack_]

Oh sorry so you responded to what Cherie posted but didn't direcetly quote her therefore that wasn't you engaging a conversation with her first, my bad LMAO

& literally the entire thread is now everyone calling you out on your contradictions, what more evidence needs providing?

Oh dear, another post you didn't pay attention to it seems:

That's actually not true at all, I made a sarcastic comment as I would have done to anyone who started this thread because I found the OP (no offence, genuinely) a bit ridiculous :laugh:

Makes no difference who started the thread, I found it absurd so responded with sarcasm. Do you not understand how a conversation works my love? Just to get you up to speed, it began when Cherie quoted my post

And the entire thread has been me pointing out that they're not actually contradictions at all, before others (mainly you) recite the same things over and over again because they're not bothering to pay attention to the responses lmfao, if you did perhaps you would understand...it's really very simple :hehe:

[Jordan.]

Oh dear, another post you didn't pay attention to it seems:



Makes no difference who started the thread, I found it absurd so responded with sarcasm. Do you not understand how a conversation works my love? Just to get you up to speed, it began when Cherie quoted my post

And the entire thread has been me pointing out that they're not actually contradictions at all, before others (mainly you) recite the same things over and over again because they're not bothering to pay attention to the responses lmfao, if you did perhaps you would understand...it's really very simple :hehe:

It's just not realistic and not one person is buying your arguments, I'll refrain from banging my head against the wall now Mr always in the right x

[Jack_]

It's just not realistic and not one person is buying your arguments, I'll refrain from banging my head against the wall now Mr always in the right x

Not that I want to speak on Niamh's behalf but she did seem to see where I was coming from (partly) by the end, and at the very least engaged with what I was saying rather than ignoring it

It's not my problem if you're not capable of understanding :shrug: but thanks hun

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[Jordan.]

Anyways we LOVE Sian!

We can't wait till she wins, the viewers poll icon :flutter:

[Kazanne]

Hussein saying 'drop the ball' worse than Lewis calling Sian ac u next Tuesday behind her back. Bit of a loss of credibility there Vanessa. :shrug:

He referred to her as a twunt, there's a difference

[Elliot]

We can't wait till she wins, the viewers poll icon :flutter:
She topped polls by doing nothing!! If she does anything of substance nobody else stands a chance!!