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vesavius
20-10-2018, 11:12 PM
Honestly, he is all but ruining this season for me. He is feckin awful, in so many ways... Smarmy, manipulative, whiny... just a general ****.

Why are people supporting him? I just dont get it.

smudgie
20-10-2018, 11:16 PM
I guess he is marmite.:shrug:
I find him interesting, everything you want in a housemate, he brings a bit of car crash and we see all sides to him, good and bad.

vesavius
20-10-2018, 11:20 PM
I guess he is marmite.:shrug:
I find him interesting, everything you want in a housemate, he brings a bit of car crash and we see all sides to him, good and bad.

Now, if you say you dont like him but find him good telly... I get that.

But people are saying that they actually like him. This confuses me.

He is the worse type of fake 'progressive' manipulater. Plus, he's is 100% aware of the cameras all the time and is as fake as **** all the time, while attacking others for supposedly being the same. He calls people snakes, when that is the defintion of his approach.

Kazanne
20-10-2018, 11:22 PM
I guess he is marmite.:shrug:
I find him interesting, everything you want in a housemate, he brings a bit of car crash and we see all sides to him, good and bad.

You said it all smudge, what more could you want ,I don't understand people who think he is Whiney and boring , he has been hilarious

vesavius
20-10-2018, 11:24 PM
You said it all smudge, what more could you want ,I don't understand people who think he is Whiney and boring , he has been hilarious

Yes, but like i say, there is a difference between recognising him as good telly, and actually liking him.

I have said many HMs are good telly, while recognising them as ****s. But, I don't get the people that say they actaully like his ****ty behaviour.

deanmontague
21-10-2018, 12:30 AM
Yes, but like i say, there is a difference between recognising him as good telly, and actually liking him.

I have said many HMs are good telly, while recognising them as ****s. But, I don't get the people that say they actaully like his ****ty behaviour.

I like him and would love to have a conversation with him.

nothing worse than having a conversation with a person who's got about as much head space as a goldfish

Epic.
21-10-2018, 12:32 AM
He's ruining this series now

vesavius
21-10-2018, 12:32 AM
I like him and would love to have a conversation with him.

nothing worse than having a conversation with a person who's got about as much head space as a goldfish

You say that as if he actually has any depth or insight to offer... being high strung and neurotic is not 'depth'... he has repeatedly demonstrated his lack of actual knowledge on pretty every much belief he has... Eggs being dairy?

The guy is a posing moron

deanmontague
21-10-2018, 12:36 AM
You say that as if he actually has any depth or insight to offer... being high strung and neurotic is not 'depth'... he has repeatedly demonstrated his lack of actual knowledge on pretty every much belief he has... Eggs being dairy?

The guy is a posing moron

He's had a lot of intelligent points actually that i've enjoyed listening to, his points regarding being controlled by sexual impulses, his comment on the house reflecting society when big coins where in full swing, his points regarding chastity, his points regarding seperating orgasm from ejaculation, his points regarding cameron being an authentic version of himself, every point he's ever made about most of the other housemates... sorry but i agree with nearly EVERYTHING he has to say.

and i think regarding the dairy he got confused with dairy/animal products in general, as a 'part-time' vegan i'm sure he just avoids all of them at all cost.


maybe you just can't see it over your blind hatred? :)

vesavius
21-10-2018, 12:39 AM
He's had a lot of intelligent points actually that i've enjoyed listening to, his points regarding being controlled by sexual impulses, his comment on the house reflecting society when big coins where in full swing, his points regarding chastity, his points regarding seperating orgasm from ejaculation, his points regarding cameron being an authentic version of himself, every point he's ever made about most of the other housemates... sorry but i agree with nearly EVERYTHING he has to say.

and i think regarding the dairy he got confused with dairy/animal products in general, as a 'part-time' vegan i'm sure he just avoids all of them at all cost.


maybe you just can't see it over your blind hatred? :)

He just regurgitates half understood **** he has read on the Huffpost or Buzzfeed or somewhere... The guy is an idiot.

He peddles populist recieved fake wisdom as 'depth', and the people that don't know better lap it up.

He is the worst type of 1% educated 'progressive'

Ant.
21-10-2018, 12:39 AM
He's had a lot of intelligent points actually that i've enjoyed listening to, his points regarding being controlled by sexual impulses, his comment on the house reflecting society when big coins where in full swing, his points regarding chastity, his points regarding seperating orgasm from ejaculation, his points regarding cameron being an authentic version of himself, every point he's ever made about most of the other housemates... sorry but i agree with nearly EVERYTHING he has to say.

and i think regarding the dairy he got confused with dairy/animal products in general, as a 'part-time' vegan i'm sure he just avoids all of them at all cost.


maybe you just can't see it over your blind hatred? :)

Before I go off, are you saying Lewis is intelligent and has depth because he can separate orgasms from ejaculation and said an eighteen year old guy isn't being fake...?

vesavius
21-10-2018, 12:42 AM
maybe you just can't see it over your blind hatred? :)

BTW, I would expect the type of person to go right to the 'hatred' card to be the type to buy into his bull****. Just sayin'. it's basically what he would do.

reece(:
21-10-2018, 12:54 AM
He is tiresome

Clootie Dumpling
21-10-2018, 01:01 AM
I think he may have narcissistic personality disorder:

" ... one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism ... "

Mayo Clinic

deanmontague
21-10-2018, 01:05 AM
Okay, to both of you;

Being fake and coming out are TWO very different experiences in your head - as a gay person I can understand whole heartedly how difficult that would have been for Cameron at his age on TV and Lewis - a STRAIGHT guy - helped him with that. sorry, but when I came out, straight guys, typical good looking straight guys like him as well - that was unheard of.

Secondly, you can sit there and tell me it's contrived crap from huffpost or whatever but at least the guy has taken an interest in educating himself and learning to potentially become a better version of himself by taking on new theories - which is what I PERSONALLY believe life to be about

I'll wait while you tell me who has provided one ounce of an interesting conversation in that house of depthless commericalised zombies, other than lewis, that has posessed one ounce of intelligence? Sian and her cigs and cider diet perhaps?

:hee:

deanmontague
21-10-2018, 01:06 AM
I think he may have narcissistic personality disorder:

" ... one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism ... "

Mayo Clinic

Okay and if that were true which i'm not endorsing is it a justified reason to vilify someone for mental health issues? would you mock a cripple? :shrug:

deanmontague
21-10-2018, 01:08 AM
guaranteed the type of people who are finding him tiresome are the types of people who aren't intelligent enough to understand what he's talking about :hehe::hehe::hehe:

Clootie Dumpling
21-10-2018, 01:09 AM
Calm down. I was offering an opinion, which might explain some of his incongruous behaviour, not "mocking" him.

vesavius
21-10-2018, 01:28 AM
Okay, to both of you;



Secondly, you can sit there and tell me it's contrived crap from huffpost or whatever but at least the guy has taken an interest in educating himself



Huffpost and Buzzfeed and all those sites are not an education. Only the least knowledgeable would start to think so. Wherein the problem lies.


I'll wait while you tell me who has provided one ounce of an interesting conversation


We are talking about lewis, not the others. The fact is he is a poser spouting cod philosophy, badly.

There is nothing good, intelligent, or deep about this guy. I am confused anyone could think so.

vesavius
21-10-2018, 01:29 AM
guaranteed the type of people who are finding him tiresome are the types of people who aren't intelligent enough to understand what he's talking about :hehe::hehe::hehe:

Dude, lol, there is zero intelligence in what he says.

Eggs are dairy!!

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

vesavius
21-10-2018, 01:32 AM
Okay and if that were true which i'm not endorsing is it a justified reason to vilify someone for mental health issues? would you mock a cripple? :shrug:

Pretty sure "cripple" is a bad term?

Anyhooo... Yes, i would observes, for example, a one legged person as having one leg.

This is not 'viilifying' them.

deanmontague
21-10-2018, 01:50 AM
Huffpost and Buzzfeed and all those sites are not an education. Only the least knowledgeable would start to think so. Wherein the problem lies.




We are talking about lewis, not the others. The fact is he is a poser spouting cod philosophy, badly.

There is nothing good, intelligent, or deep about this guy. I am confused anyone could think so.

sigh... i think herein lies your main issue... him being a 'poser', people always either love or hate attractive people. :shrug:

Slevin
21-10-2018, 01:53 AM
sigh... i think herein lies your main issue... him being a 'poser', people always either love or hate attractive people. :shrug:
i think Sian is very attractive but im neutral on her:shrug:

vesavius
21-10-2018, 02:06 AM
sigh... i think herein lies your main issue... him being a 'poser', people always either love or hate attractive people. :shrug:

His looks have zero to do with him being a poser.

You have failed to understand what is being said, as he would.

vesavius
21-10-2018, 02:06 AM
i think Sian is very attractive but im neutral on her:shrug:

That's because dean's statement is nonsense

lewys
21-10-2018, 06:12 AM
I can understand why people think he's a good housemate, but what i don't understand is people justifying his behaviour. I thought Helen was good, made bb15 somewhat bearable and saved it from being a snoozefest but i recognise how much of a vile person she was and that as an actual human being i dislike her, the way Lewis has treated Ana, Kay, Sian, Isabella, Akeem to name a few is horrible, the constant poking at Akeem, calling Sian the c word and a dinner lady just because she cooks food for the house, going off and screaming at Isabella when she was just trying to diffuse a situation it's disguesten !!

People need to stop allowing all of his actions because of his good looks and him being a 'good housemate' (which imo he's not, he's draining the series with the moaning and has gotten rid of so many big characters, the argument that this series would be boring without him at this point may be true, but that's only because he has gotten rid of all the other interesting ones who would cause conflict)

Ammi
21-10-2018, 06:28 AM
I can understand why people think he's a good housemate, but what i don't understand is people justifying his behaviour. I thought Helen was good and made bb15 somewhat bearable and saved it from being a snoozefest but i recognise how much of a vile person she was and that as an actual human being i dislike her, the way Lewis has treated Ana, Kay, Sian, Isabella, Akeem to name a few is horrible, the constant poking at Akeem, calling Sian the c word and a dinner lady just because she cooks food for the house, going off and screaming at Isabella when she was just trying to diffuse a situation it's disguesten !!

People need to stop allowing all of his actions because of his good looks and him being a 'good housemate' (which imo he's not, he's draining the series with the moaning and has gotten rid of so many big characters, the argument that this series would be boring without him at this point may be true, but that's only because he has gotten rid of all the other interesting ones who would cause conflict)

...excellent post Lewys..:love:...the thing is for me is that we haven’t fully seen the characters of others because of the oppression he creates in the house and the negativity he creates in the house...I do think it’s fine that allowances are made for him because he has so many issues and insecurities so isn’t a ‘bad person’ as such...but those same allowances should be made for other housemates also with any negative behaviour they display... because every single person in the house will have issues and insecurities...and ‘reasons’...Lewis make his felt so much more so gains all of the understanding, while others are judged and dismissed in a very simple way...

Ammi
21-10-2018, 06:37 AM
...(..he feels he has depth...)...but there are only two surfaces he judges on in terms of how people relate to him and accept him...either unconditional love and adoration or snake and reptile...any criticism or challenging of him goes straight into the snake and reptile section..:laugh:...he condemns those who have nominated him with the flip of his finger but never acknowledges those who haven’t nominated him...who still have some energy and understanding left to feel positivity for him regardless of his behaviour...

joeysteele
21-10-2018, 06:59 AM
By the same reasoning we who like him don't understand the acidic hate towards him too.

I really like him, he can be trusted, he comes across loyal to those who need him to be.
Such as to Cameron on his need in the house.

He is volatile but for me in an entertaining way, he can be full of fun and really down.
He chooses to vent off more in the diary room, so knows himself enough to take himself away at times from, annoying, to him, situations.
That is what the diary room is for too.

He has flaws and he hinself is honest enough to admit he has, that's admirable.

He is also really complex and that makes all he does and says interesting to hear and watch.
To sit and have a deep discussion with him, over many issues, is something I'd like to have with him.

All of that adds up to him bringing loads to the house as a housemate.
In that he is and can be, annoying, frustrating, hilarious, really endearing and most of the time entertaining.

That makes for a great housemate, which he is in my view.
Far from ruining this series, he is the one who has made it.
It likely would have been at best tedious run of the mill series without him.
Something this series cannot, in my view be termed as.
Mainly thanks to all his input to it.

Cherie
21-10-2018, 08:31 AM
Good housemate for few weeks his stich has been boring for a while now , I’m living with snakes while being the biggest one himself, he is frustrating to watch at this stage

Kazanne
21-10-2018, 10:36 AM
He's had a lot of intelligent points actually that i've enjoyed listening to, his points regarding being controlled by sexual impulses, his comment on the house reflecting society when big coins where in full swing, his points regarding chastity, his points regarding seperating orgasm from ejaculation, his points regarding cameron being an authentic version of himself, every point he's ever made about most of the other housemates... sorry but i agree with nearly EVERYTHING he has to say.

and i think regarding the dairy he got confused with dairy/animal products in general, as a 'part-time' vegan i'm sure he just avoids all of them at all cost.


maybe you just can't see it over your blind hatred? :)

:clap1::clap1:

Kazanne
21-10-2018, 10:43 AM
By the same reasoning we who like him don't understand the acidic hate towards him too.

I really like him, he can be trusted, he comes across loyal to those who need him to be.
Such as to Cameron on his need in the house.

He is volatile but for me in an entertaining way, he can be full of fun and really down.
He chooses to vent off more in the diary room, so knows himself enough to take himself away at times from, annoying, to him, situations.
That is what the diary room is for too.

He has flaws and he hinself is honest enough to admit he has, that's admirable.

He is also really complex and that makes all he does and says interesting to hear and watch.
To sit and have a deep discussion with him, over many issues, is something I'd like to have with him.

All of that adds up to him bringing loads to the house as a housemate.
In that he is and can be, annoying, frustrating, hilarious, really endearing and most of the time entertaining.

That makes for a great housemate, which he is in my view.
Far from ruining this series, he is the one who has made it.
It likely would have been at best tedious run of the mill series without him.
Something this series cannot, in my view be termed as.
Mainly thanks to all his input to it.

I had no favourites in this BB for a while,i wasn't really watching it much,but it was the hate on here that made me curious as to see who this 'monster' was so I started watching and saw Lewis unfold in many layers, a lot of what he says is said in jest,just some take it the wrong way,he's had fun in there, bickerings in there,meltdowns in the DR,and the thing about him only fronting women is ridiculous, he aired his opinions to Lewis G,Akeem, Hussain,also,so now I really like him as a housemate as I do Cameron,they are like a double act,He has said himself he is trying to calm himself down,he is doing a great job,really good housemate.IMO

AnnieK
21-10-2018, 10:49 AM
I can totally get why people like him as a housemate. He is fascinating to watch. I find him narcissistic, pessimistic with terrible inter personal skills but I think he has some complex deep set issues.

He would drain me as a real person but he has been the divisive character this season. His friendship with Cam is intriguing too. At times I think its built on good intentions and at other times I feel its built on the cams almost hero worship.

Complex housemate....not great human imo

Pink Panther
21-10-2018, 10:51 AM
Yes, but like i say, there is a difference between recognising him as good telly, and actually liking him.

I have said many HMs are good telly, while recognising them as ****s. But, I don't get the people that say they actaully like his ****ty behaviour.

Kim Woodburn is good telly + a good person that is scarred and is fragile and misunderstands certain things as attacks and IS often misunderstood (many people attested that she's a good, kind, warm person).

Lewis F is good telly (for the first 3 weeks, now he is becoming dull and repetitive and too paranoid to be interesting), is an EVIL person. The week he helped Cameron come out and paid for the party I was BLINDED and I thought he had a GOOD heart for that and for the 'Robin Hood' act by stealing from the rich and giving to the poor housemates, HOWEVER, I realize that he's the type of person that might be generous and giving but only to his BLIND followers aka Zoe and Cameron who both rarely EVER criticize him for ANYTHING and NEVER point out when he is being irrational, he is basically paying them as a reward for being blind followers not because he is a kind and generous person. He literally couldn't be asked to give certain people the TIME aka something that is worth nothing to him.... to explain themselves. He calls Sian a snake when she did literally NOTHING to him, he nominated Issy when she was his ally that DITCHED her ally to be with him and calls her laugh annoying and says he has no feelings for her (leading her on) and yet sleeps with her all while backstabbing her, he did the same to Anamelia who made up with him and kept attacking her and creating FALSE NARRATIVES about her bothering him when she was OVER IT.

Lewis is a despicable disgusting ****.

Jules82
21-10-2018, 11:00 AM
Honestly, he is all but ruining this season for me. He is feckin awful, in so many ways... Smarmy, manipulative, whiny... just a general ****.

Why are people supporting him? I just dont get it.


Why does anyone have the love for anyone at all, most likely because they find common ground with the good side and the understanding of a character, I love him and hope he wins. Not one of us is perfect and we love our friends for their imperfections as well. On the other hand, is there a perfect HM in there? No, it just wouldnt do for us all to be the same. It is good that we can disagree because everyone has a point of view. :wavey:

Jules82
21-10-2018, 11:11 AM
[QUOTE=vesavius;10301019]Now, if you say you dont like him but find him good telly... I get that.

But people are saying that they actually like him. This confuses me.

He is the worse type of fake 'progressive' manipulater. Plus, he's is 100% aware of the cameras all the time and is as fake as **** all the time, while attacking others for supposedly being t"


That is your point of view, non of us know these HMs and tbh we should not judge them for entertaining us, karma will only bring it back on us. Most of them are conscious of the cameras, I have noticed the sneaky looks and then the quick turn abouts What HMs may not realise is that when they sit and say "oh so and so is playing up to the cameras" they themselves are also doing the same because they are edited saying it. I like him because he is honest, he isnt a lamb following the crowd to keep himself in, what you see is what you get. Others are hiding their true selves and just coasting along. Hope he wins. :wavey:

Jules82
21-10-2018, 11:13 AM
I guess he is marmite.:shrug:
I find him interesting, everything you want in a housemate, he brings a bit of car crash and we see all sides to him, good and bad.

I love marmite and I agree with your remarks 100%

Jules82
21-10-2018, 11:16 AM
I like him and would love to have a conversation with him.

nothing worse than having a conversation with a person who's got about as much head space as a goldfish

I love him as well, I like his meditation aspect, it takes a lot of strength and character to get good results. Whether he wins or not he will soon be snatched up in the industry and he will do well. Others may just go back to their day jobs but good luck to them.

Jules82
21-10-2018, 11:18 AM
He's ruining this series now

oh dear but a great percent think he has made the series, cant win eh Epic, swings and roundabouts in all things it just depends on what stop one gets off on.

Jules82
21-10-2018, 11:22 AM
You say that as if he actually has any depth or insight to offer... being high strung and neurotic is not 'depth'... he has repeatedly demonstrated his lack of actual knowledge on pretty every much belief he has... Eggs being dairy?

The guy is a posing moron

:hehe: a poor example, some say they are and other say they are not, which came first the chicken or the egg? I dont know do you? It is the greater things in life which matter and we wont see it all on tv because there are others in there who want some airtime. Just not enough time to give all their conversations. Understandable, they have to be fair. Many would agree with you but an awful lot do not, it really doesnt matter in this point of the game as he has a big fanbase. Saying that though I dont think he really cares if he wins or not.

Kazanne
21-10-2018, 11:24 AM
And here we all are talking about Lewis AGAIN, this is why he has been a good housemate,nobody hardly talks about anyone else.

Alf
21-10-2018, 11:25 AM
He's had a lot of intelligent points actually that i've enjoyed listening to, his points regarding being controlled by sexual impulses, his comment on the house reflecting society when big coins where in full swing, his points regarding chastity, his points regarding seperating orgasm from ejaculation, his points regarding cameron being an authentic version of himself, every point he's ever made about most of the other housemates... sorry but i agree with nearly EVERYTHING he has to say.

and i think regarding the dairy he got confused with dairy/animal products in general, as a 'part-time' vegan i'm sure he just avoids all of them at all cost.


maybe you just can't see it over your blind hatred? :)But he didn't want to play spin the bottle, so that cancels out him having opinions to say.

reece(:
21-10-2018, 11:26 AM
And here we all are talking about Lewis AGAIN, this is why he has been a good housemate,nobody hardly talks about anyone else.

We'll be able to once he goes and others are shown.

Alf
21-10-2018, 11:28 AM
We'll be able to once he goes and others are shown.Exactly, we want some spin the bottle.

Jules82
21-10-2018, 11:31 AM
[QUOTE=deanmontague;10301108]He's had a lot of intelligent points actually that i've enjoyed listening to, his points regarding being controlled by sexual impulses, his comment on the house reflecting society when big coins where in full swing, his points regarding chastity, his points regarding seperating orgasm from ejaculation, his points regarding cameron being an authentic version of himself, every point he's ever made about most of the other housemates... sorry but i agree with nearly EVERYTHING he has to say.

and i think regarding the dairy he got confused with dairy/animal products in general, as a 'part-time' vegan i'm sure he just avoids all of them at all cost.

maybe you just can't see it over your blind hatred? :)[/QUOTE

Good post Dean, tbh I have never thought whether eggs were dairy or not, it hasnt been important to me to find out. I looked up his flexitarian aspect and thought ok that is a good idea. It is the greater issues which matter tbh, ie why are we here (ok gigle giggle). No, if we are to take on a project we need to look into it fully as he seems to with his yoga and meditation. Good one imo.....he is complex and maybe needs a lot of understanding but then dont we all? I know I do....

bots
21-10-2018, 11:37 AM
its not just the dairy comment. He has come out with loads of complete bollocks regularly. I remember on one task he said that oysters were the same thing as caviar

chuff me dizzy
21-10-2018, 12:34 PM
Highly intelligent and very interesting to listen to, 2 great qualities

Kazanne
21-10-2018, 12:40 PM
We'll be able to once he goes and others are shown.

They'll have to be quick it finishes soon.

Jules82
21-10-2018, 01:20 PM
Exactly, we want some spin the bottle.

What false hilarity at stupidity?

girlfighter24
21-10-2018, 01:29 PM
I don't get why so many people like him I used to like him but now he is my least favourite.

I do wonder if he fat and ugly whether he would have as many fans as he does now.

vesavius
21-10-2018, 01:44 PM
I do wonder if he fat and ugly whether he would have as many fans as he does now.

Indeed.

You know he would be long gone.

vesavius
21-10-2018, 01:47 PM
Neurotic self obssessed whining is not 'depth'.

Half formed/ half understood Buzzfeed/ Tumblr regurgitations are not 'depth'.

People calling this guy 'deep' are making me laff. He is just a narcissistic poser.

You would have to be puddle shallow to think he is deep, honestly.

Underscore
21-10-2018, 01:59 PM
You talk about depth with such anger and passion yet supported Ellie from last year, one of the most depthless and empty housemates on that season :shrug:

Ant.
21-10-2018, 02:01 PM
You talk about depth with such anger and passion yet supported Ellie from last year, one of the most depthless and empty housemates on that season :shrug:

shut it malika stan

Underscore
21-10-2018, 02:02 PM
shut it malika stan

am i the one preaching about depth?

go back to your maths problems sunshine

Ant.
21-10-2018, 02:04 PM
am i the one preaching about depth?

go back to your maths problems sunshine

oh so you acknowledge that I was referring to depth with my statement huh? you ADMIT Malika lacks depth?

Alf
21-10-2018, 02:04 PM
Neurotic self obssessed whining is not 'depth'.

Half formed/ half understood Buzzfeed/ Tumblr regurgitations are not 'depth'.

People calling this guy 'deep' are making me laff. He is just a narcissistic poser.

You would have to be puddle shallow to think he is deep, honestly.Now do the other housemates and explain their depth to us.

Jules82
21-10-2018, 02:06 PM
I don't get why so many people like him I used to like him but now he is my least favourite.

I do wonder if he fat and ugly whether he would have as many fans as he does now.

Not much point in just voting for looks, it is quality which counts. I think many would agree, tbh I dont really know if he is that good looking, he doesnt float my boat.

Jules82
21-10-2018, 02:12 PM
Neurotic self obssessed whining is not 'depth'.

Half formed/ half understood Buzzfeed/ Tumblr regurgitations are not 'depth'.

People calling this guy 'deep' are making me laff. He is just a narcissistic poser.

You would have to be puddle shallow to think he is deep, honestly.

We all see different things in different way, we really have to see them on the outside to really put labels on anyone. For me I have listened to one or two conversations which show that he has knowledge of things some may not even entertain. Things which many have studied and understand the meaning.....If he wins he will have the last "laff" if he goes then we will be able to see him on BOTS. It is the total aftermath which I will be interested in. Hey it isnt raining today so there arent any puddles here......:joker:

Jules82
21-10-2018, 02:22 PM
Okay, to both of you;

Being fake and coming out are TWO very different experiences in your head - as a gay person I can understand whole heartedly how difficult that would have been for Cameron at his age on TV and Lewis - a STRAIGHT guy - helped him with that. sorry, but when I came out, straight guys, typical good looking straight guys like him as well - that was unheard of.

Secondly, you can sit there and tell me it's contrived crap from huffpost or whatever but at least the guy has taken an interest in educating himself and learning to potentially become a better version of himself by taking on new theories - which is what I PERSONALLY believe life to be about

I'll wait while you tell me who has provided one ounce of an interesting conversation in that house of depthless commericalised zombies, other than lewis, that has posessed one ounce of intelligence? Sian and her cigs and cider diet perhaps?

:hee:

Once again good post Dean, I agree to progress we have to look into ourselves and find our own negativities. To criticise another is sometimes us seeing our own faults but not always realising that that is also what we are about. It all takes time but tbh for me I hope that Lewis still keeps it up. In his mind he knows that to be popular in the house he has to follow the crowd but he is his own person. Well done lad....stay that way.......:wavey:

Elliot
21-10-2018, 03:05 PM
Nobody does. I tried to get it but I give up

reece(:
21-10-2018, 03:42 PM
oh so you acknowledge that I was referring to depth with my statement huh? you ADMIT Malika lacks depth?

Edgic had her as toneless her whole time, which was a first (I think) :skull:

vesavius
21-10-2018, 06:22 PM
Now do the other housemates and explain their depth to us.

Did I say that they had any?

But, no one is making that claim about them so it clearly does not need defending.

People do say Lewis is 'deep' though, which is just laughable. He's a complete moron that has just got the 'progressive' pose down from reading one too many Tumblr posts.

vesavius
21-10-2018, 06:24 PM
You talk about depth... yet supported Ellie from last year, one of the most depthless and empty housemates on that season

I don't support HMs because they are deep or not deep... You have utterly failed to understand.

Alf
21-10-2018, 06:25 PM
Did I say that they had any?

But, no one is making that claim about them so it clearly does not need defending.

People do say Lewis is 'deep' though, which is just laughable. He's a complete moron that has just got the 'progressive' pose down from reading one too many Tumblr posts.Fair do's

Cherie
21-10-2018, 07:26 PM
Did I say that they had any?

But, no one is making that claim about them so it clearly does not need defending.

People do say Lewis is 'deep' though, which is just laughable. He's a complete moron that has just got the 'progressive' pose down from reading one too many Tumblr posts.

Yes depth my ass :laugh:

Niamh.
21-10-2018, 07:39 PM
Did I say that they had any?

But, no one is making that claim about them so it clearly does not need defending.

People do say Lewis is 'deep' though, which is just laughable. He's a complete moron that has just got the 'progressive' pose down from reading one too many Tumblr posts.Indeed