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Elliot
21-10-2018, 02:51 PM
Watching the clip on bbuk twitter of Cameron getting his hair done and the row between Sian Lewis and Brooke that followed made me realise a lot about why Cameron is the way he is around Lewis, and only around Lewis.

He felt really good about himself when they did his hair and it was all smiles from all 3, which is something you rarely see with Cameron in the house. He was clearly having a good time and found new confidence, but it completely changed when Lewis became part of the equation. Saying his hair looked horrible and insulting Sian and Brooke and getting defensive and killing the mood, you can literally watch his face drop. It’s so clear to me now that camerons behaviour is only a product of Lewis and his misery/ manipulation. He has fun with everyone else and instantly becomes more paranoid and disheartened around him, but yet is loyal to him anyway. Maybe it’s because he trusts him after cam came out, or he’s actually attracted to him. But Lewis is clearly a bad influence and really drags his spirit down. I don’t really mind Cameron now but I think Lewis is certainly headed towards being one of my least favourite of all time

Epic.
21-10-2018, 02:54 PM
I do still dislike Cameron because his individual behaviour has still been bad regardless of influence but I still agree with the OP. The easiest summation of this is if anyone were to rewatch the first week. Before Lewis, Cameron's best friend in the house was Tomasz and his attitude was much more uplifting and carefree at that point. He didn't properly get close to Lewis till the second week and when G left, he clung to F to the point of relying on him. I really hope the public see this and separate them asap

lewys
21-10-2018, 02:57 PM
yeah to be fair thinking about it I liked Cameron up until the point he became best friends with Lewis, I think he could have won it if Lewis went on friday assuming he’s be more like week one and two when he had massive support and Lewis fans would presumably vote for him

Twosugars
21-10-2018, 02:59 PM
Interesting points from Elliott and Epic

ConnorTheJudge
21-10-2018, 03:13 PM
WOW! I wasn't expecting that! :laugh:

Liam-
21-10-2018, 03:15 PM
He’s had fun with Lewis as well though, so I never understand the ‘he’s always miserable with Lewis’ thing

RileyH
21-10-2018, 03:15 PM
He’s had fun with Lewis as well though, so I never understand the ‘he’s always miserable with Lewis’ thing

They bring each other down

Elliot
21-10-2018, 03:32 PM
He’s had fun with Lewis as well though, so I never understand the ‘he’s always miserable with Lewis’ thing

It’s not really my point tho. It’s more just, to me at least, lewis lacks self awareness and is blinded by his own paranoia, and this isn’t matched very well with a vulnerable 18 yr old still learning about the world. It almost seems like Lewis is taking advantage of Cameron as a pawn for his games after Cameron let him in when it came to his sexuality. I’m not sure if Lewis is even consciously doing it at this point, but it seems clear to me the influence Lewis has on him.

montblanc
21-10-2018, 03:33 PM
i haven't i still think he's a ****

Epic.
21-10-2018, 03:33 PM
i haven't i still think he's a ****

:joker:

reece(:
21-10-2018, 03:34 PM
i haven't i still think he's a ****

https://media.giphy.com/media/26xBxcus9bkzNDQOs/giphy.gif

Daniel.
21-10-2018, 03:36 PM
He goes up and down in my estimations more than any housemate ever, some episodes he's a favoueite others I want him OUT

RileyH
21-10-2018, 03:37 PM
i haven't i still think he's a ****

:laugh2:

Jordan.
21-10-2018, 04:02 PM
His friendship with Tomasz was cute I agree he became worse with Lewis.

Cal.
21-10-2018, 04:08 PM
I really don’t like Cameron at all (my least fave!) but I will say in his defence that he’s got a bloke a lot older than him (is it by like 9 years or something?) who is good looking and straight and who you wouldn’t see typically with a boy like him in Lewis F as his friend. He’s going to look up to him and look to him for reassurance, plus, dramatic as it may sound, Lewis F has had a massive impact on Cameron’s entire life by supporting him during one of the most difficult things he’ll face in coming out. So yeah, I do think Cameron’s behaviour in there is controlled by his infatuation with Lewis F (I’m not even saying Cameron fancies him or whatever I’m just saying he will have an admiration for him due to how important he has swiftly become to him as a person).

montblanc
21-10-2018, 04:10 PM
I really don’t like Cameron at all (my least fave!) but I will say in his defence that he’s got a bloke a lot older than him (is it by like 9 years or something?) who is good looking and straight and who you wouldn’t see typically with a boy like him in Lewis F as his friend. He’s going to look up to him and look to him for reassurance, plus, dramatic as it may sound, Lewis F has had a massive impact on Cameron’s entire life by supporting him during one of the most difficult things he’ll face in coming out. So yeah, I do think Cameron’s behaviour in there is controlled by his infatuation with Lewis F (I’m not even saying Cameron fancies him or whatever I’m just saying he will have an admiration for him due to how important he has swiftly become to him as a person).

oh wow our Cal the psychologist? Judi James is shook!

Twosugars
21-10-2018, 04:14 PM
His friendship with Tomasz was cute I agree he became worse with Lewis.

This.

Whichever way you cut it Lewis has a bad influence on him

JerseyWins
21-10-2018, 04:16 PM
Nicky hew?

Jake.
21-10-2018, 05:37 PM
He was hilarious in the first week and since then he’s become a moaning raincloud of doom

Amy Jade
21-10-2018, 05:40 PM
I actually thought it was Cameron making Lewis horrid but Lewis is the toxic one all along

Alf
21-10-2018, 05:53 PM
This is just another anti Lewis thread camouflaged as Cameron one.

Kazanne
21-10-2018, 06:03 PM
This is just another anti Lewis thread camouflaged as Cameron one.

:joker::joker:Alf ,you are so astute ,I spotted that too

Elliot
21-10-2018, 06:04 PM
:joker::joker:Alf ,you are so astute ,I spotted that too

We love a detective!

RileyH
21-10-2018, 06:04 PM
:joker::joker:Alf ,you are so astute ,I spotted that too

Well it's not hard

Kazanne
21-10-2018, 06:05 PM
We love a detective!

I know just call me Sherlock:wavey:

Kazanne
21-10-2018, 06:07 PM
Love Cameron and Lewis without this double act we'de be sitting watching paint dry.Seriously take them out and what have you got ? Any of those two to win

Elliot
21-10-2018, 06:07 PM
Love Cameron and Lewis without this double act we'de be sitting watching paint dry.Seriously take them out and what have you got ? Any of those two to win

We’d get good house dynamic and fun!

Kazanne
21-10-2018, 06:09 PM
We’d get good house dynamic and fun!

How? there is only Zoe and Cian left who are watchable

Elliot
21-10-2018, 06:10 PM
How? there is only Zoe and Cian left who are watchable

Dinosaur Zoe is one of the unwatchable ones. Sian is a howl same with Brooke and akeem and cian

Alf
21-10-2018, 06:13 PM
We’d get good house dynamic and fun!Sian's highlight was telling us that she likes to drink cider from the bottle. If it's fun you're after then surely you'd want her gone first?

reece(:
21-10-2018, 06:13 PM
Theresa May would be proud of your u-turn x

RileyH
21-10-2018, 06:14 PM
Sian's highlight was telling us that she likes to drink cider from the bottle.

WITH a straw! A mad one :elephant:

Adamw92
21-10-2018, 08:30 PM
i haven't i still think he's a ****

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88Paul99
21-10-2018, 08:37 PM
He was miserable and moaning from day one, long before Lewis. He befriended Tomasz and then went to the group telling them Tomasz would throw any one of them under a bus. Then went back to Tomasz and acted as if they were best friends.