calling Lewis a ****ing ****

[Nancy.]

It's quite telling how there's very few threads (if at all) on Brooke referring to Lewis as a ****ing c * * t during last nights show, yet this place was overrun with people taking the moral high ground on what Lewis said about Sian - pearl clutching and faux outrage everywhere, so where's the outrage when Brooke said it about Lewis? Clearly it's fine for a woman to say it about a man - or rather a housemate they don't like, and to top it off she also said she hoped he would get evicted. Clearly one rule for some and another for others.

[BBDodge]

And yet later she asked Lewis if he wanted to have a chat which he declined.

Brooke and Lewis continue to have an attract/repel relationship (as did Lewis with Anamelia, Kay and Isabella).

[Vanessa]

It's quite telling how there's very few threads (if at all) on Brooke referring to Lewis as a ****ing c * * t during last nights show, yet this place was overrun with people taking the moral high ground on what Lewis said about Sian - pearl clutching and faux outrage everywhere, so where's the outrage when Brooke said it about Lewis? Clearly it's fine for a woman to say it about a man - or rather a housemate they don't like, and to top it off she also said she hoped he would get evicted. Clearly one rule for some and another for others.

Did she say it to hia face? I used to like Brooke, but she's really showing herself up lately.
Yes Lewis has no tact sometimes, but no one deserves to be called that word.

[Ammi]

..it’s the context as well though..(..I have no issue with the word itself over any other derogatory word..)...Lewis has no foundation or reason to name call or be dereogatory...In his head he had judged her to have the box and he had judged her to be nothing more than a dinner lady...Brooke used it referring to actual behaviour displayed...

[Vanessa]

There's no excuse. I don't like anyone using that word, including Lewis.

[Epic.]

That's not what happened. People didn't mind Brooke saying it, not because she's a woman, but because she thought Lewis was acting like a ****ing **** since he melted down over a bad haircut. Lewis said it about Sîan with no reason to, which makes him look more malicious. It's nothing to do with gender. He gave reason to be called that word, Sîan didn't

[Elliot]

That's not what happened. People didn't mind Brooke saying it, not because she's a woman, but because she thought Lewis was acting like a ****ing **** since he melted down over a bad haircut. Lewis said it about Sîan with no reason to, which makes him look more malicious. It's nothing to do with gender. He gave reason to be called that word, Sîan didn't

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[Ammi]

That's not what happened. People didn't mind Brooke saying it, not because she's a woman, but because she thought Lewis was acting like a ****ing **** since he melted down over a bad haircut. Lewis said it about Sîan with no reason to, which makes him look more malicious. It's nothing to do with gender. He gave reason to be called that word, Sîan didn't

...exactly...Sian was termed that by Lewis for behaviour which was to take a big part in cooking meals for the housemates...

[Macie Lightfoot]

didn't y'all love when Marcus called David one in BB10? "That was different x"

[joeysteele]

It's either wrong to use it or not.
For me directly to someone is worse than when having a private chat with another.
Which is the case here for both Lewis and Brooke's use of it.

Lewis wasn't the only one who thought Sian had killer nommed him.
That's as much a just base for suspicion and dislike as Brooke as to Lewis's behaviour.

I hate the word but I hear it near every day in my work so am immune to it.

Brooke however at times is all over the place.
Especially towards Lewis.
It's hard to fathom out.

[Nancy.]

]It's either wrong to use it or not.[/B]
For me directly to someone is worse than when having a private chat with another.
Which is the case here for both Lewis and Brooke's use of it.

Lewis wasn't the only one who thought Sian had killer nommed him.
That's as much a just base for suspicion and dislike as Brooke as to Lewis's behaviour.

I hate the word but I hear it near every day in my work so am immune to it.

Brooke however at times is all over the place.
Especially towards Lewis.
It's hard to fathom out.


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[Rob!]

I’ve never understood the huge outrage that word causes tbh, to me it’s just another way of insulting someone.

Brooke was a howl last night

[rusticgal]

..it’s the context as well though..(..I have no issue with the word itself over any other derogatory word..)...Lewis has no foundation or reason to name call or be dereogatory...In his head he had judged her to have the box and he had judged her to be nothing more than a dinner lady...Brooke used it referring to actual behaviour displayed...


Its irrelevant imo. Its not a nice word used in whatever context and for whatever reason. Double standards on this forum as always. Lewis was slaughtered for using it..not for his reasons.

[rusticgal]

That's not what happened. People didn't mind Brooke saying it, not because she's a woman, but because she thought Lewis was acting like a ****ing **** since he melted down over a bad haircut. Lewis said it about Sîan with no reason to, which makes him look more malicious. It's nothing to do with gender. He gave reason to be called that word, Sîan didn't

The funny thing is it was Brooke that had the meltdown..She jumped on Lewis for laughing WITH Cameron..she got all defensive and went OTT. He reacted to their ranting...if anyone was the **** it was Brooke.
Lewis used it against Sian because he thought she had Killer nominated him...no difference. It was an opinion on both parts but as usual its ok for anyone to do it but Lewis..

[jaxie]

Didn't see it so it can't have been much of a rant but I don't like the word or anyone using it. I think it is very derogatory to women. Have swung from liking to not liking Brooke much, not sure how I feel about her really. At least they showed it the main show rather than editing it out in her favour like they did for Lewis.

[Nancy.]

Its irrelevant imo. Its not a nice word used in whatever context and for whatever reason. Double standards on this forum as always. Lewis was slaughtered for using it..not for his reasons.

Exactly, Rustic. Context is beside the point. They're basically saying is it's fine for her but not for him. Double standards indeed.

[jaxie]

Its irrelevant imo. Its not a nice word used in whatever context and for whatever reason. Double standards on this forum as always. Lewis was slaughtered for using it..not for his reasons.

I don't recall you being very bothered when Lewis was spouting it off. Aren't you showing double standards right now? :shrug:

[Ammi]

Its irrelevant imo. Its not a nice word used in whatever context and for whatever reason. Double standards on this forum as always. Lewis was slaughtered for using it..not for his reasons.

..he wasn’t ‘slaughtered’ by me for using the word..only criticised for the context ...and the same applies to Brooke, the context applied much more ....that’s not double standards, it’s consistancy ...

[Jules82]

And yet later she asked Lewis if he wanted to have a chat which he declined.

Brooke and Lewis continue to have an attract/repel relationship (as did Lewis with Anamelia, Kay and Isabella).

Did she, when was this, I honestly didnt see it...h:wavey: the remarks were on eviction night but I havent really noticed anyone being with him since then.

[bots]

we have been over the use of the word, it can be a term of endearment in some circumstances, but it can also be the worst possible slight. Brookes use of it, was still pretty unacceptable and doesn't say a lot about her.

I don't think Brooke is a particularly pleasant individual, there have been too many occasions now where she has behaved a bit iffy

[arista]

It's quite telling how there's very few threads (if at all) on Brooke referring to Lewis as a ****ing c * * t during last nights show, yet this place was overrun with people taking the moral high ground on what Lewis said about Sian - pearl clutching and faux outrage everywhere, so where's the outrage when Brooke said it about Lewis? Clearly it's fine for a woman to say it about a man - or rather a housemate they don't like, and to top it off she also said she hoped he would get evicted. Clearly one rule for some and another for others.



Yes Brooke is very down at times
like a older smoking hag

[Jules82]

...exactly...Sian was termed that by Lewis for behaviour which was to take a big part in cooking meals for the housemates...


and Zoe stirred the pot well and truly against Sian, it seems to me that it is a word used often, I do believe that Zoe used it as well? Horrible word no matter who says it and so is the F word but they are part of todays society and you can bet your bottom dollar that the so called elite use it as well. No excuses for anyone imo. I mean anyone, not just Lewis!

[Ammi]

and Zoe stirred the pot well and truly against Sian, it seems to me that it is a word used often, I do believe that Zoe used it as well? Horrible word no matter who says it and so is the F word but they are part of todays society and you can bet your bottom dollar that the so called elite use it as well. No excuses for anyone imo. I mean anyone, not just Lewis!

..then he shouldn’t have been so shallow and judgemental based on hearsay of what Zoe’s feelings of Sian were...someone told him that Sian had the box and he felt it ok to speak about them the way he did...not just with a derogatory descriptive but to refer to them as a ‘dinner lady’ in a scathing way...

[Jules82]

Didn't see it so it can't have been much of a rant but I don't like the word or anyone using it. I think it is very derogatory to women. Have swung from liking to not liking Brooke much, not sure how I feel about her really. At least they showed it the main show rather than editing it out in her favour like they did for Lewis.

The main show can only take so much as we know, they showed the whole episode on BOTS of Lewis' rant, this when he was up for eviction. Many of us watch BOTS and tbh I thought it unfair in view of the eviction. Many had time to make their own minds up but he still stayed top of the shop. Sian hasnt really touched the BOTS as she has been in the background too much. Maybe they are protecting her for a winner, who knows eh!!

[Cherie]

It's quite telling how there's very few threads (if at all) on Brooke referring to Lewis as a ****ing c * * t during last nights show, yet this place was overrun with people taking the moral high ground on what Lewis said about Sian - pearl clutching and faux outrage everywhere, so where's the outrage when Brooke said it about Lewis? Clearly it's fine for a woman to say it about a man - or rather a housemate they don't like, and to top it off she also said she hoped he would get evicted. Clearly one rule for some and another for others.

The different is he deserved it the way he tore into her over the haircut, he has never even spoken to Sian and she had done nothing to him other than existing and doing a bit too much cooking for his liking

[Jules82]

..then he shouldn’t have been so shallow and judgemental based on hearsay of what Zoe’s feelings of Sian were...someone told him that Sian had the box and he felt it ok to speak about them the way he did...not just with a derogatory descriptive but to refer to them as a ‘dinner lady’ in a scathing way...

Oh dear so are we saying that the others arent being judgemental, Lewis is what he is and he has a lot of support. Once again though it is ok for the others but not Lewis, lets hammer him and not even realise that our own choices are at fault. We will have to disagree on this one as I support him totally, faults and all but it is good to see others coming to the fore now rather than everyone just bashing Lewis.....

[Ammi]

Oh dear so are we saying that the others arent being judgemental, Lewis is what he is and he has a lot of support. Once again though it is ok for the others but not Lewis, lets hammer him and not even realise that our own choices are at fault. We will have to disagree on this one as I support him totally, faults and all but it is good to see others coming to the fore now rather than everyone just bashing Lewis.....

..yeah he has had much support and understanding from many other housemates.. many acceptances and allowances for his behaviour when it hasn’t been great at all...yet he still feels that he shares a house with snakes and reptiles..yeah he really should realise that his choices bear self responsibility, whatever his issues are...and he shouldn’t judge so harshly with others and show some understanding as well...

[Nancy.]

The different is he deserved it the way he tore into her over the haircut, he has never even spoken to Sian and she had done nothing to him other than existing and doing a bit too much cooking for his liking

But we only see 45 minutes per night, so we don't know how much interaction they've had or what else Sian or Brooke's said about him...and that goes for all of them. What we do know is Sian has muttered stuff about Lewis under her breath and will happily put the boot in when he's being attacked.

I don't think he deserved to be called a ****ing **** either after stating an opinion he was asked for, although it may have been harsh, he was honest and straight to the point. They're not hairdressers, so why any of them went to town on people's hair in the first place is mindboggling - which was something else he pointed out and Sian rolled her eyes in response. If they wanted praise for a sh!tty job, they went knocking at the wrong door.

[Twosugars]

but he is a ****ing ****, she was simply stating the obvious :shrug:

[poppsywoppsy]

but he is a ****ing ****, she was simply stating the obvious :shrug:

Then she will cuddle and cosy up to him, she was jealous of Isabella taking her place.

[Twosugars]

Then she will cuddle and cosy up to him, she was jealous of Isabella taking her place.

La donna e mobile

[chuff me dizzy]

It's quite telling how there's very few threads (if at all) on Brooke referring to Lewis as a ****ing c * * t during last nights show, yet this place was overrun with people taking the moral high ground on what Lewis said about Sian - pearl clutching and faux outrage everywhere, so where's the outrage when Brooke said it about Lewis? Clearly it's fine for a woman to say it about a man - or rather a housemate they don't like, and to top it off she also said she hoped he would get evicted. Clearly one rule for some and another for others.

Double standards

[clairefromsomewhereinnort]

She was spot on about the sort of person Lewis is the vast maj of the time, but perhaps shouldn't have used the "C" word. i don t find whinging entertaining and i struggle to understand why some do, so i wouldn't have Cameron or Lewis as my winner just cos they've moaned too much all f series, or almost all the time, you must admit, it is almost all the time with Lewis and Cameron's nearly as bad so wouldn t have either winning cos sorry just don t find whinging entertaining find it a pain in ass listening to it most of the time actually.

[chuff me dizzy]

She was spot on about the sort of person Lewis is the vast maj of the time, but perhaps shouldn't have used the "C" word. i don t find whinging entertaining and i struggle to understand why some do, so i wouldn't have Cameron or Lewis as my winner just cos they've moaned too much all f series, or almost all the time, you must admit, it is almost all the time with Lewis and Cameron's nearly as bad so wouldn t have either winning cos sorry just don t find whinging entertaining find it a pain in ass listening to it most of the time actually.

She was happy to sleep with him then the sneaky cow nominated him the following day

[user104658]

All this talk of "context" and "good reasons" is pretty dubious; those things are purely subjective / opinion based, there's just no way to argue otherwise.

So it's either OK to use "the sea word" to casually insult someone, or it isn't. If it was wrong for Lewis to call Sian a ****, then it was wrong for Brooke to call Lewis a ****.

Personally I don't really have an issue with anyone calling anyone a **** or anything else and tbh I do find all of the hand-wringing about it to be a little disingenuous :joker:. Also I think it's worth mentioning that it's a word that's been thrown around this BB house a lot... in aggressive ways, in jokey ways, even in strangely affectionate ways... so it's not really that unusual for it to be catching on as "general housemate vocabulary". Trying to reframe it as some sort of Voldemort-esque term that should never be used lest the fabric of reality begin to unfold, I personally find a bit odd. It's a word, you daft ****s :fist:

[bots]

All this talk of "context" and "good reasons" is pretty dubious; those things are purely subjective / opinion based, there's just no way to argue otherwise.

So it's either OK to use "the sea word" to casually insult someone, or it isn't. If it was wrong for Lewis to call Sian a ****, then it was wrong for Brooke to call Lewis a ****.

Personally I don't really have an issue with anyone calling anyone a **** or anything else and tbh I do find all of the hand-wringing about it to be a little disingenuous :joker:. Also I think it's worth mentioning that it's a word that's been thrown around this BB house a lot... in aggressive ways, in jokey ways, even in strangely affectionate ways... so it's not really that unusual for it to be catching on as "general housemate vocabulary". Trying to reframe it as some sort of Voldemort-esque term that should never be used lest the fabric of reality begin to unfold, I personally find a bit odd. It's a word, you daft ****s :fist:

does this mean you are going to rename your avatar, a lovable ****? :laugh:

[user104658]

does this mean you are going to rename your avatar, a lovable ****? :laugh:

:nono: my user title is a direct quote from Emma Willis' interview with Hussein where she talked about how much she appreciates a firm erection. I'm like 90% sure that was the context anyway.

[reece(:]

Likewise would Lewis stans chastise him if he called her it? I don't bloody think so.

Don't really like Brooke but I agree with Epic's post above, spot on

[rionablue]

It's quite telling how there's very few threads (if at all) on Brooke referring to Lewis as a ****ing c * * t during last nights show, yet this place was overrun with people taking the moral high ground on what Lewis said about Sian - pearl clutching and faux outrage everywhere, so where's the outrage when Brooke said it about Lewis? Clearly it's fine for a woman to say it about a man - or rather a housemate they don't like, and to top it off she also said she hoped he would get evicted. Clearly one rule for some and another for others.

Brooke is the most level headed softly spoken radical housemate in there. She was one hundred per cent correct about Lewis. He had completely taken her apart for cutting Camerons hair (which Cameron had been happy with) he is a low life now and I am SICK OF HIM so good girl Brooke

[Kazanne]

That's not what happened. People didn't mind Brooke saying it, not because she's a woman, but because she thought Lewis was acting like a ****ing **** since he melted down over a bad haircut. Lewis said it about Sîan with no reason to, which makes him look more malicious. It's nothing to do with gender. He gave reason to be called that word, Sîan didn't

of course he had a reason ,he doesn't like her, he thinks she is sneaky and she is

[Northern Monkey]

Meh,It’s only as bad as “Prick” or “cock”.It’s just a word.

[RileyH]

Preach it Brooke :clap1:

[Daniel-X]

She did that