If a woman acted the same way as Lewis...

[Beastie]

She would be hated! I know its like 50/50 on here for the love/hate of Lewis but a lot on facebook like/love him :/ I dislike the guy...

But yeah like I said he would be more hated on a whole if he was a woman with all the negativity.

[Alf]

She'd be an impressionist.

[Marsh.]

And the point of assuming sexism in a situation that does not exist is...?

[Elliot]

Tell us something we don’t know

[Alf]

Tell us something we don’t knowJFKs murderers.

[Jules82]

She would be hated! I know its like 50/50 on here for the love/hate of Lewis but a lot on facebook like/love him :/ I dislike the guy...

But yeah like I said he would be more hated on a whole if he was a woman with all the negativity.

I doubt it tbh, if one floats ones boat then they have the support they need. I have stood by many women who others have deemed hopeless. No winners but near to the final. It is just a case of looking further into a personality, it certainly isnt an easy task for any of them being in there but it was their choice. If we seek hard enough we can find something in each one of them which we can identify with.

[girlfighter24]

No they would be hated I don't get why he is so popular

[rionablue]

She would be hated! I know its like 50/50 on here for the love/hate of Lewis but a lot on facebook like/love him :/ I dislike the guy...

But yeah like I said he would be more hated on a whole if he was a woman with all the negativity.

The sad thing I think that for some viewers and sometimes forum members if a guy is goodlooking they can get away with any **** they want and if a girl is goodlooking they are often slated if they step out of line. Its very unfortunate to be fair and not right but for me I thought Lewis was very fit on launch night but now I feel he is a whinging moaning let down and I wont support him no matter how fit he is.

[Liam-]

Are you joking? If he was a woman he’d be adored by half the forum for being an ‘fierce, sassy lass’ all you have to do is look at previous forum favourites and you’d see that.

General social media is always a lot more divided on housemates though.

[Elliot]

Are you joking? If he was a woman he’d be adored by half the forum for being an ‘fierce, sassy lass’ all you have to do is look at previous forum favourites and you’d see that.

General social media is always a lot more divided on housemates though.

Yet she’d be hated by the public just like said forum favourites. Lewis has done the same things and is adored by voters. That’s the point

[poppsywoppsy]

She'd be an impressionist.

:joker:

[Liam-]

Yet she’d be hated by the public just like said forum favourites. Lewis has done the same things and is adored by voters. That’s the point

Not necessarily, take Kim Woodburn for example, she was bloody horrific and was adored both by people on here and on social media, she was way worse than Lewis ever has been.

[tanussa]

are some if you getting access to more highlights than the rest of us cos I dont understand what lewis is doing that is so bad. so he voices his opinion, so he lets HMs know when he is annoyed or upset about something. its called being real. and told tell me that your lives exist without getting annoyed/angry from time to time. the others just arent being real

[Elliot]

Not necessarily, take Kim Woodburn for example, she was bloody horrific and was adored both by people on here and on social media, she was way worse than Lewis ever has been.

Kim stood up for herself against some genuinely abhorrent people. Her calling Jamie an adulterer is very different from Lewis making Kay walk, which really is the most extreme things both these people have done

[Jules82]

The sad thing I think that for some viewers and sometimes forum members if a guy is goodlooking they can get away with any **** they want and if a girl is goodlooking they are often slated if they step out of line. Its very unfortunate to be fair and not right but for me I thought Lewis was very fit on launch night but now I feel he is a whinging moaning let down and I wont support him no matter how fit he is.


RB fair dos but I can assure you that many do not support him because of his looks, that is a very unfair assumption. I like him better now than I did in the beginning, I didnt see him as my winner, I saw Tomasz.

In the CBB one I certainly didnt support Ryan and he is brilliant looking, I supported the chap with the hairy chest :dance::dance::cheer2::laugh::laugh:

[Jules82]

Kim stood up for herself against some genuinely abhorrent people. Her calling Jamie an adulterer is very different from Lewis making Kay walk, which really is the most extreme things both these people have done

Lewis certainly didnt make Kay walk, she thought she was to good for the house. She gave a brilliant interview on BOTS and told her story and why she couldnt take the confinement. She threatened to leave many times.

I loved Kim Woodburn but have never liked the Nolans. Kim says it as it is in her opinion.

[Liam-]

Kim stood up for herself against some genuinely abhorrent people. Her calling Jamie an adulterer is very different from Lewis making Kay walk, which really is the most extreme things both these people have done

If that’s what you genuinely think about Kim then it’s kind of proved my point imo, but obviously we’ll never agree on it so there’s no point debating it :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Helen Wood won the show.

Gina Rio made the final.

That is all.

[Jules82]

Yet she’d be hated by the public just like said forum favourites. Lewis has done the same things and is adored by voters. That’s the point

She wouldnt though Elliot, if she was liked she would have her support, remember Nadia many hated her but many supported her as well. I did. It is the shrinking wallflowers I am against for a winner. Great in real life but not for me in a gameshow. Also the sympathy vote, many have tried that one, some have succeeded but others have failed miserably. The game has advanced into fiery and interesting people.

[Marsh.]

Not necessarily, take Kim Woodburn for example, she was bloody horrific and was adored both by people on here and on social media, she was way worse than Lewis ever has been.

Defending yourself against vile people like James Jordan, Nicola McLean, Coleen Nolan and Spencer Pratt does not make her worse in the slightest.

[Vanessa]

Lewis isn't even that bad. He's just volatile. Can't always control his temper, but he'll get there.
I used to be like that as well, but now i'm much better at controlling my anger.

[Vladimir]

Helen Wood won the show.

Gina Rio made the final.

That is all.

Hmm Gina wasn't a nasty person.

[Marsh.]

Hmm Gina wasn't a nasty person.

Yes, she was. A bully.

[Elliot]

Helen Wood won the show.

Gina Rio made the final.

That is all.

How was Gina Rio anything like Lewis

[Marsh.]

How was Gina Rio anything like Lewis

I never made a direct comparison between Gina and Lewis.

I made a point about unlikeable and horrible women being popular.

[Ant.]

I made a point about unlikeable and horrible women being popular.

Sallie and Hazel ghostwrote this!

[Marsh.]

Sallie and Hazel ghostwrote this!

Sallie is another vile woman, but she was unpopular and out first.

Therefore there's no real pattern that negative women are unpopular or popular. There's evidence of both, so it must go far beyond that.

[Liam-]

Defending yourself against vile people like James Jordan, Nicola McLean, Coleen Nolan and Spencer Pratt does not make her worse in the slightest.

That’s my point, people chop and change what they think is acceptable based on who’s involved and what side they take, I personally think both Kim and Lewis put themselves into a position where the house didn’t like them, Lewis by being a negative Nelly and loving a row and Kim by being a ****ing monster, the difference is though people seem to think that because the majority of the house didn’t like Kim, she was being picked on, but with Lewis, he deserves it, I don’t see how it’s any different, granted I like Lewis and hated Kim, but that’s because I see him as being able to acknowledge his flaws and apologise when he knows he’s in the wrong, but Kim didn’t, people’s consistency with their ‘morals’ is very flexible with shows like Big Brother I find.

[Marsh.]

the difference is though people seem to think that because the majority of the house didn’t like Kim, she was being picked on

Erm, no.

She was picked on because she was spoken to and treated like utter sh*te and whenever she threw it back at them she was accused of "starting".

[Ant.]

Sallie is another vile woman, but she was unpopular and out first.

Therefore there's no real pattern that negative women are unpopular or popular. There's evidence of both, so it must go far beyond that.

oh tea I'm/I was agreeing with you

It's bizarre to say that a housemate would be hated if they were the opposite sex because each housemate is unique so there's no true comparison to be made

[Elliot]

That’s my point, people chop and change what they think is acceptable based on who’s involved and what side they take, I personally think both Kim and Lewis put themselves into a position where the house didn’t like them, Lewis by being a negative Nelly and loving a row and Kim by being a ****ing monster, the difference is though people seem to think that because the majority of the house didn’t like Kim, she was being picked on, but with Lewis, he deserves it, I don’t see how it’s any different, granted I like Lewis and hated Kim, but that’s because I see him as being able to acknowledge his flaws and apologise when he knows he’s in the wrong, but Kim didn’t, people’s consistency with their ‘morals’ is very flexible with shows like Big Brother I find.

The difference is the situations both of these people were in. Kim was antagonised by horrible people then when she stood up for herself they used it as ammo to paint her as the aggressor, oddly enough it’s the same thing lewis does. He provokes akeem then akeem bites back and is then demonised.

[Matthew.]

Nah I disagree, I think he’d be more popular, especially on this forum

[thesheriff443]

Lewis isn't even that bad. He's just volatile. Can't always control his temper, but he'll get there.
I used to be like that as well, but now i'm much better at controlling my anger.

Your a fiery Italian that’s why you got a temper.

[Liam-]

Nah I disagree, I think he’d be more popular, especially on this forum

Oh tea

[thesheriff443]

Also the more members attack Lewis on here the more members deffend him, I wonder how members would feel if they lived with Lewis 24/7.

But just to put Lewis in perspective, members where deffending lotan after his actions.

[poppsywoppsy]

Also the more members attack Lewis on here the more members deffend him, I wonder how members would feel if they lived with Lewis 24/7.

But just to put Lewis in perspective, members where deffending loran after his actions.

I, for one and have constantly seen posts stating they wouldn't like to live in a 24/7 environment with Lewis.

I also wouldn't care to live with most of the others either.

On a basis out of the house, I wouldn't mind knowing him at all.

I have also said I didn't agree with his actions upon occasion.

But he isn't all the nasty names he has been called on here either.

[Vanessa]

I, for one and have constantly seen posts stating they wouldn't like to live in a 24/7 environment with Lewis.

I also wouldn't care to live with most of the others either.

On a basis out of the house, I wouldn't mind knowing him at all.

I have also said I didn't agree with his actions upon occasion.

But he isn't all the nasty names he has been called on here either.

he would probably be hard to live with. but he's brilliant to watch.

[montblanc]

are we surprised :idc:

[GoldHeart]

She would be hated! I know its like 50/50 on here for the love/hate of Lewis but a lot on facebook like/love him :/ I dislike the guy...

But yeah like I said he would be more hated on a whole if he was a woman with all the negativity.

OMG!! if he was a woman! he would of been evicted ages ago!!! :bored: .

Lets call him Louise , on bot's they'd all be saying "ohhh she's a horrible person get her out" .

it would be mixed on here but i think more people would be against "Louise" .
And i doubt things would go in her favour .

[Marsh.]

OMG!! if he was a woman! he would of been evicted ages ago!!! :bored: .

Lets call him Louise , on bot's they'd all be saying "ohhh she's a horrible person get her out" .

it would be mixed on here but i think more people would be against "Louise" .
And i doubt things would go in her favour .

Yeah because horrible women NEVER do well on this show.

Oh wait...

[Elliot]

And said horrible woman would’ve got evicted week 1 if she didn’t have a pass to the final

[Marsh.]

And said horrible woman would’ve got evicted week 1 if she didn’t have a pass to the final

Helen isn't the only horrible female housemate.

[EllieBrownFan]

People already call Sian nasty when she’s done nothing wrong so the point that if Lewis was a woman he wouldn’t have as much fans is true

[Matthew.]

Oh tea

yep

I actually think you’d be more hard-pushed to find someone supporting Lewis F than you would someone supporting Roxanne Pallett

[Littlegreen]

He's been an incredible housemate, but he is one of the best (or worst however you want to look at it) cases of narcissistic personality disorder ever witnessed on BB.

[Vanessa]

He's been an incredible housemate, but he is one of the best (or worst however you want to look at it) cases of narcissistic personality disorder ever witnessed on BB.

Like him or hate him, he makes great tv. If he wasn't there i wouldn't be watching.