A question to all the Sian fans.

[pontyboi]

Firstly this isn't a hate thread.

Sian seems to be getting ALOT of support and has gained a very passionate fan base on here and in all honesty i cannot for the life of me understand why (each to thier own obviously)

So...

Could you enlighten me and tell the non Sian fans exactly why Sian is the followng which her fans seem to constantly associate with her.

Iconic:
A role model:
Memorable moments that make her a deserving final BB winner:

Thanks :)

[chuff me dizzy]

No one knew she was there until 10 days ago :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

Firstly this isn't a hate thread.

Sian seems to be getting ALOT of support and has gained a very passionate fan base on here and in all honesty i cannot for the life of me understand why (each to thier own obviously)

So...

Could you enlighten me and tell the non Sian fans exactly why Sian is the followng which her fans seem to constantly associate with her.

Iconic:
A role model:
Memorable moments that make her a deserving final BB winner:

Thanks :)

Role model for who ? not new Mums that's for sure

[rusticgal]

Role model for who ? not new Mums that's for sure

Smoking...:laugh:

[pontyboi]

Role model for who ? not new Mums that's for sure

I really want to know why this term seems to be flying about the forum so much when fans talk about her.

[montblanc]

i’m not really a fan of her and think she’s kind of overrated on here but she’s harmless

she’s gained a weird OTT hate base outside the forum and it’s just not fair as she’s done nothing to warrant that

[chuff me dizzy]

I really want to know why this term seems to be flying about the forum so much when fans talk about her.

I can honestly say Ive never seen anyone refer to her as a role model,.But then again I dont go on threads about her ......Im glad I haven't seen her called that as if it was said in a serious way I would have choked on my lager

[Jodie.]

She’s just a down to earth lass with some hilarious one liners :love: (have an apple is my fav quote of the series duh!) I probs just like her as humour like that is my type of humour :)
Also she’s the only one who doesn’t think collectively and has her own opinion, for example last week when she expressed her dislike for Lewis F whilst all the others kept their head down

All imo of course!

[LukeB]

i’m not really a fan of her and think she’s kind of overrated on here but she’s harmless

she’s gained a weird OTT hate base outside the forum and it’s just not fair as she’s done nothing to warrant that

And on the forum :skull: and they are all Lewis F fans... I guess they are still salty


They made out she's some mean girl but she hasn't done anything mean.

[y.winter]

It took her a lot of time to shine.
The moment I started noticing her was "typical Lewis", when she wasn't afraid to show her dissatisfaction with Lewis and she cba with his drama.
She's not hiding her opinions, doesn't take bs from housemates, very independent in the house, brilliant one liners.
I find myself agreeing with a lot of the things she says and I enjoy her presence in the house right now.

[pontyboi]

And on the forum :skull: and they are all Lewis F fans... I guess they are still salty


They made out she's some mean girl but she hasn't done anything mean.

Do you any examples on the points I requested in the op though?

[bots]

It took her a lot of time to shine.
The moment I started noticing her was "typical Lewis", when she wasn't afraid to show her dissatisfaction with Lewis and she cba with his drama.
She's not hiding her opinions, doesn't take bs from housemates, very independent in the house, brilliant one liners.
I find myself agreeing with a lot of the things she says and I enjoy her presence in the house right now.

that's it in a nut shell, she is stable, doesn't do drama when its just not necessary. She is always kind to people that are struggling and receives completely unwarranted hate both from housemates and viewers.

[DouglasS]

It’s because she’s kind and normal.
The same can’t be said for Cameron and Zoe - who are just incredibly bitchy people.

[LukeB]

Do you any examples on the points I requested in the op though?

Iconic: A normal lass who is low key funny


A role model: I wouldn't say any of them will be role models as such but I guess she would be one to her child. She has showed she is a decent person,stayed true to herself,loyalty and didn't fake stuff.


Memorable moments that make her a deserving final BB winner: Having a fag in the middle of hide seek best moment of the series :dance: I could go on. She is deserving just for being a decent person. Nice people winning puts out a great message I rather reward nice people than awful ones.

[AnnieK]

In all honesty, I started to watch out for her more when a few fms started saying what a bitch and mean girl she was as I had never noticed it. I still haven't too be honest. She has had a few conversations about the others but certainly no more as the rest of them....so if she is bitchy the others are too. She doesn't put on a fake front....like sone do. She joins in with tasks. Too many comments about her parenting too imo....it seems only parents who people.dont like are bad. Helen wood was a mum but liked by a huge swathe of the forum.....no one questioned her for.leaving her kid at home. Imo as long as the child is with family who they are comfortable with, I wouldn't question it.

As you don't understand the phrases mentioned above OP, I don't understand the:
She's a bad mum
She's a mean girl
She's a bitch

Everyone has their own faves but that's what makes big brother. What sian has been slated for, other's have done but if they are your faves its easier to justify etc

[LukeB]

In all honesty, I started to watch out for her more when a few fms started saying what a bitch and mean girl she was as I had never noticed it. I still haven't too be honest. She has had a few conversations about the others but certainly no more as the rest of them....so if she is bitchy the others are too. She doesn't put on a fake front....like sone do. She joins in with tasks. Too many comments about her parenting too imo....it seems only parents who people.dont like are bad. Helen wood was a mum but liked by a huge swathe of the forum.....no one questioned her for.leaving her kid at home. Imo as long as the child is with family who they are comfortable with, I wouldn't question it.

As you don't understand the phrases mentioned above OP, I don't understand the:
She's a bad mum
She's a mean girl
She's a bitch

Everyone has their own faves but that's what makes big brother. What sian has been slated for, other's have done but if they are your faves its easier to justify etc

Good post :clap1:

[Cherie]

It took her a lot of time to shine.
The moment I started noticing her was "typical Lewis", when she wasn't afraid to show her dissatisfaction with Lewis and she cba with his drama.
She's not hiding her opinions, doesn't take bs from housemates, very independent in the house, brilliant one liners.
I find myself agreeing with a lot of the things she says and I enjoy her presence in the house right now.

that's it in a nut shell, she is stable, doesn't do drama when its just not necessary. She is always kind to people that are struggling and receives completely unwarranted hate both from housemates and viewers.

In all honesty, I started to watch out for her more when a few fms started saying what a bitch and mean girl she was as I had never noticed it. I still haven't too be honest. She has had a few conversations about the others but certainly no more as the rest of them....so if she is bitchy the others are too. She doesn't put on a fake front....like sone do. She joins in with tasks. Too many comments about her parenting too imo....it seems only parents who people.dont like are bad. Helen wood was a mum but liked by a huge swathe of the forum.....no one questioned her for.leaving her kid at home. Imo as long as the child is with family who they are comfortable with, I wouldn't question it.

As you don't understand the phrases mentioned above OP, I don't understand the:
She's a bad mum
She's a mean girl
She's a bitch

Everyone has their own faves but that's what makes big brother. What sian has been slated for, other's have done but if they are your faves its easier to justify etc


All of these, no one is asking you to explain your support of Lewis F, so each to their own, I really don't know what the purpose of this thread is, are you any the wiser, its abit like asking someone why they fancy someone else, sometimes it's intangible

I like that she followed her own path in their, she didn't try to cosy up to people she had no interest in, she has come across very well in tasks, she doesn't try and glory hunt in the auctions, yet when it came to the important things like the auction for letters she stepped up when no one else had the bottle to

I hope that answers your question from my perspective at any rate

fans saying iconic and role model are on a wind up I thought that was obvious....

[hijaxers]

Firstly this isn't a hate thread.

Sian seems to be getting ALOT of support and has gained a very passionate fan base on here and in all honesty i cannot for the life of me understand why (each to thier own obviously)

So...

Could you enlighten me and tell the non Sian fans exactly why Sian is the followng which her fans seem to constantly associate with her.

Iconic:
A role model:
Memorable moments that make her a deserving final BB winner:

Thanks :)

A satisfactory answer will not be fruitful Ponty - cos there just isn't one.

[Cherie]

A satisfactory answer will not be fruitful Ponty - cos there just isn't one.

why does he need explanations though that is the real question here :laugh: Its not like it will change his mind, I dont care why you like whoeveer you like, you just do...end of

[Kazanne]

I think the anti Lewis fans love her because she uttered a few catty remarks about him under her smokey breath.:hee:

[thisisdanny]

I just think she's been lowkey hilarious all series. Even when she wasn't shown much the little bits we did see of her she'd be a scream. And it's continuing now we're seeing more of her.

I'm not saying she's been as good as the likes of the loud, dramatic and argumentative housemates, but she's harmless and hasn't done anything to warrant hate. She's been very consistent. My opinions on others have changed a lot, sometimes on a nightly basis, but not with our Sianham. I love her :flutter:

[Cherie]

I think the anti Lewis fans love her because she uttered a few catty remarks about him under her smokey breath.:hee:

Lewis could be catty too, so maybe its the smoky that does it :laugh:

[Clown]

It would be wiser for Lewis fans to hate Cameron and brook. Considering it was the argument with them that caused his departure

[thisisdanny]

It would be wiser for Lewis fans to hate Cameron and brook. Considering it was the argument with them that caused his departure

It wasn't an argument?

[Kazanne]

It would be wiser for Lewis fans to hate Cameron and brook. Considering it was the argument with them that caused his departure

No one knows that

[Kazanne]

Lewis could be catty too, so maybe its the smoky that does it :laugh:

I don't think he was catty :fist:

[y.winter]

If Sian's support is Anti-Lewis vote, then a Lewis' support is Anti-everyone-bar-Cameron vote.

Housemates' interactions is part of what defines who they are as a housemate. Sometimes the reactions are better than the actions.
So yeah, Sian has mostly reacted to the situations staged by Lewis, but let's not forget Lewis was the one to react to LG and Anamelia.

[Jules82]

Firstly this isn't a hate thread.

Sian seems to be getting ALOT of support and has gained a very passionate fan base on here and in all honesty i cannot for the life of me understand why (each to thier own obviously)

So...

Could you enlighten me and tell the non Sian fans exactly why Sian is the followng which her fans seem to constantly associate with her.

Iconic:
A role model:
Memorable moments that make her a deserving final BB winner:

Thanks :)

It is good to see a thread on someone else tbh but I do wonder where they have been all this time, imo they have let her down as it is to late now to change opinions.

[LukeB]

If Sian's support is Anti-Lewis vote, then a Lewis' support is everyone-bar-Cameron vote.

Housemates' interactions is part of what defines who they are as a housemate. Sometimes the reactions are better than the actions.
So yeah, Sian has mostly reacted to the situations staged by Lewis, but let's not forget Lewis was the one to react to LG and Anamelia.

It is! They have said a Cameron win is a Lewis win :skull:

[Cherie]

It is good to see a thread on someone else tbh but I do wonder where they have been all this time, imo they have let her down as it is to late now to change opinions.

Production let her down, they have their faves, although most are gone now tbf apart from Cameron

[AnnieK]

I don't think he was catty :fist:

And therin lies the problem.....you don't, some do.

Theres been far more catty remarks on this thread than has been made in the house....does that make us all mean girls and deserve to be labelled as such?

[Cherie]

:cat:I don't think he was catty :fist:

:cat:

[Amy Jade]

I like her because she's funny mostly. Little things like her face when people sob and the way she keeps her chill when people are flying off the handle.

Further more I liked how she handled herself during tasks like the one last night, she had 0 but never purposefully screwed anyone over and unlike Zoe she bid on the letters without moaning because she wanted to hear from her family.

To a degree my support has become more obvious because I'm not scared to call out people who disgustingly claim she is a bad mum.

[Kazanne]

:cat:

:cat:

:wavey:

[OldShagBuilt]

To a degree my support has become more obvious because I'm not scared to call out people who disgustingly claim she is a bad mum.


i have seen people say shes a bad mum for going on the show...i disagree. however i had no idea she had a child but i know zoe has from hearing her mention him, the only way sian can come across as a bad mum in my view is the drinking and smoking thats a bad role model and by the way she talks she drinks alot and goes out alot, doesnt necessarily mean shes a bad mum but i dont agree with it myself. my oldest is 9 and iv never ever gone out for the night or spent a night away from them or shipped them of to grandmas for the night so i can go out.

[chuff me dizzy]

It would be wiser for Lewis fans to hate Cameron and brook. Considering it was the argument with them that caused his departure

Please post your proof

[ConnorTheJudge]

It’s because she’s kind and normal.
The same can’t be said for Cameron and Zoe - who are just incredibly bitchy people.
I haven't seen any genuine kindness from her and she has actually been very bitchy. Brooke is probably the most kind in there.

What's "normal" mean? :shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

i have seen people say shes a bad mum for going on the show...i disagree. however i had no idea she had a child but i know zoe has from hearing her mention him, the only way sian can come across as a bad mum in my view is the drinking and smoking thats a bad role model and by the way she talks she drinks alot and goes out alot, doesnt necessarily mean shes a bad mum but i dont agree with it myself. my oldest is 9 and iv never ever gone out for the night or spent a night away from them or shipped them of to grandmas for the night so i can go out.

You sound an amazing Mum and are raising your children as I raised mine and how my daughter is raising her children ,if only all Mothers were like you

[AnnieK]

I haven't seen any genuine kindness from her and she has actually been very bitchy. Brooke is probably the most kind in there.

What's "normal" mean? :shrug:

Giving Cam his letter was kind, knowing he needed to confirmation that his family were good even though she was closer to others.

[AnnieK]

I also don't think never going out makes you an amazing mum. I go out.....around once a month or so. My son loves going to stay with his grandad. He gets male bonding time, I get my time and we are both happy. I don't feel I have to go out and don't feel cheated if I don't but it does me good to have some me time. Happy mum = happy son.

[ConnorTheJudge]

Sian is a really interesting character. It's fascinating watching her smoke those Cigarettes...

[Amy Jade]

Sian isn't kind?

I must have dreamt her giving Zoe and Cameron letters from home even when she is admittedly closer to Cian, Akeem and Brooke.

[OldShagBuilt]

You sound an amazing Mum and are raising your children as I raised mine and how my daughter is raising her children ,if only all Mothers were like you

thanks but im actually a dad lol :cheer2:

[EllieBrownFan]

I knew she was a star when she revealed that she ate dishwashing liquid in the form of bubbles

[Amy Jade]

I also don't think never going out makes you an amazing mum. I go out.....around once a month or so. My son loves going to stay with his grandad. He gets male bonding time, I get my time and we are both happy. I don't feel I have to go out and don't feel cheated if I don't but it does me good to have some me time. Happy mum = happy son.

I agree. I think the bad mum stuff is actually beyond nasty.

My mum is a single parent but she worked when I was little so I would sometimes stay at my Nan and Grandad's for days at a time because she had to work night shifts.

[Amy Jade]

Also if people are calling Sian a bad mother for being away from her child are they prepared to be called a bad parent for being overbearing and wrapping them in cotton wool?

[chuff me dizzy]

thanks but im actually a dad lol :cheer2:

Either way you are a good parent :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

I agree. I think the bad mum stuff is actually beyond nasty.

My mum is a single parent but she worked when I was little so I would sometimes stay at my Nan and Grandad's for days at a time because she had to work night shifts.

8 weeks ?

[pontyboi]

All of these, no one is asking you to explain your support of Lewis F, so each to their own, I really don't know what the purpose of this thread is, are you any the wiser, its abit like asking someone why they fancy someone else, sometimes it's intangible

I like that she followed her own path in their, she didn't try to cosy up to people she had no interest in, she has come across very well in tasks, she doesn't try and glory hunt in the auctions, yet when it came to the important things like the auction for letters she stepped up when no one else had the bottle to

I hope that answers your question from my perspective at any rate

fans saying iconic and role model are on a wind up I thought that was obvious....

I thought I made it clear this wasn't a hate thread but here we go again with another fm being sensitive, on the defence and bringing Lewis into yet another thread :rolleyes: .

I am genuinely intrigued as to why people are rooting for her to win and that's the "purpose of this thread".

If you feel the thread has no purpose then I don't understand why you felt compelled to post in it?

[Amy Jade]

8 weeks ?

Military personnel spend even longer away from their kids. Are they bad parents too?

Also being racist, xenophobic and homophobic are terrible traits and people who are all three have kids. They sound like worse mums than someone who smokes. In my opinion.

[pontyboi]

I like her because she's funny mostly. Little things like her face when people sob and the way she keeps her chill when people are flying off the handle.

Further more I liked how she handled herself during tasks like the one last night, she had 0 but never purposefully screwed anyone over and unlike Zoe she bid on the letters without moaning because she wanted to hear from her family.

To a degree my support has become more obvious because I'm not scared to call out people who disgustingly claim she is a bad mum.

Sian isn't a fav for me by any stretch but I do agree her resting bitch face when Cian, Zoe throw their heads into their hands and cry is pretty funny as was her non reaction to Lewis leaving and im a Lewis fan.

[EllieBrownFan]

The Sian support makes much more sense compared to the hate she receives. There are posts agreeing that she’s a c u next Tuesday, calling her a nasty cold hearted bitch because her emotions aren’t theatrical. When someone has barely received any airtime it’s fair to say she’s boring, she’s can’t be everyone’s cuppa tea but why the nasty stuff?

[Amy Jade]

Sian isn't a fav for me by any stretch but I do agree her resting bitch face when Cian, Zoe throw their heads into their hands and cry is pretty funny as was her non reaction to Lewis leaving and im a Lewis fan.

I laughed so much when she barely reacted to Lewis going. She wasn't fake about it at all just showed sympathy towards those wgo were upset.

[chuff me dizzy]

Military personnel spend even longer away from their kids. Are they bad parents too?

Also being racist, xenophobic and homophobic are terrible traits and people who are all three have kids. They sound like worse mums than someone who smokes. In my opinion.

Are we discussing Sian here ? IMO Any mother who leaves her kiddies for 8 weeks to do something selfish for herself ( Unlike the military ) doesn't deserve to call herself a mother ,leaving a child a few hours with GRANDPARENTS !!to help pay the family bills is fine, but dumping a child in a child minders all day is wrong, if you dont want to be there for your children you shouldn't have them

[Amy Jade]

Also thanks for starting a topic and actually wanting to discuss the topic rather than just argue points. I totally agree we all find different things and people interesting x

[Jordan.]

Why's it always the older generation who probably beat their kids with slippers judging younger mothers

[Amy Jade]

Are we discussing Sian here ? IMO Any mother who leaves her kiddies for 8 weeks to do something selfish for herself ( Unlike the military ) doesn't deserve to call herself a mother ,leaving a child a few hours with GRANDPARENTS !!to help pay the family bills is fine, but dumping a child in a child minders all day is wrong, if you dont want to be there for your children you shouldn't have them

We are discussing Sian but if you wish to call her a bad mother I am entitled to say what I think constitutes as bad parenting like forcing views onto children.

She has gone in with the chance of earning money to support her child. Look at Lateysha Grace - she went in looking for financial security and is now a millionaire.

[chuff me dizzy]

We are discussing Sian but if you wish to call her a bad mother I am entitled to say what I think constitutes as bad parenting like forcing views onto children.

She has gone in with the chance of earning money to support her child. Look at Lateysha Grace - she went in looking for financial security and is now a millionaire.

IMO she and Zoe are terrible Mothers ( said in the lightest form possible) and I feel heart sorry for their poor children

[y.winter]

We are discussing Sian but if you wish to call her a bad mother I am entitled to say what I think constitutes as bad parenting like forcing views onto children.

She has gone in with the chance of earning money to support her child. Look at Lateysha Grace - she went in looking for financial security and is now a millionaire.

When did that happen?
Sad times.

[LukeB]

We are discussing Sian but if you wish to call her a bad mother I am entitled to say what I think constitutes as bad parenting like forcing views onto children.

She has gone in with the chance of earning money to support her child. Look at Lateysha Grace - she went in looking for financial security and is now a millionaire.

:clap1:

What's funny Helen Wood left her kid at home for 72 days so 10 weeks but Chuff says nothing. bunch of hypocrties.

£100,000 is a lot of money and she gets some money for being on BB which is still money on the table.

[y.winter]

Just out of curiosity, with all the bad-mom thing - would you say BB17 Jason is a bad father for leaving his daughter and coming back 7 weeks later with 100 grand to support her? Does the final outcome changes it?

Edit: same with BB12 Aaron and BB15 Helen.

[susie q]

Are we discussing Sian here ? IMO Any mother who leaves her kiddies for 8 weeks to do something selfish for herself ( Unlike the military ) doesn't deserve to call herself a mother ,leaving a child a few hours with GRANDPARENTS !!to help pay the family bills is fine, but dumping a child in a child minders all day is wrong, if you dont want to be there for your children you shouldn't have them

Helen Wood did it and no one criticised her for it.

[AnnieK]

Helen Wood did it and no one criticised her for it.

That point will never be addressed :laugh:

[y.winter]

Only now noticed that only C5 had parents winning civilian series. Or am I wrong (I don't know about BB1 Craig)?

[Jordan.]

Just out of curiosity, with all the bad-mom thing - would you say BB17 Jason is a bad father for leaving his daughter and coming back 7 weeks later with 100 grand to support her? Does the final outcome changes it?

Edit: same with BB12 Aaron and BB15 Helen.

Of course they wont, only people they dislike are open to criticism.

[Jules82]

It would be wiser for Lewis fans to hate Cameron and brook. Considering it was the argument with them that caused his departure

Why would we do that? First of all we do not know what it was all about whether it was heated or just chat. Also they went in there on their own which some have said, each one should be considered on his/her own merits.

Regardless I like Brooke, always have even though she may have been a bit twofaced with Lewis. That was her choice because of her own insecurities.

Cameron, Ive gone from liking to disliking and have felt that Lewis was more in his pocket than vice versa, as said by some.

Now I do feel that if Cameron wins, it will be a good choice for Lewis but if I didnt like him I wouldnt vote for him. Having said that, Cameron certainly knows what he is doing and he hasnt been afraid to stand up for himself.

[Amy Jade]

IMO she and Zoe are terrible Mothers ( said in the lightest form possible) and I feel heart sorry for their poor children

And your hero Helen Wood?

Who left her child even longer...

[y.winter]

I especially can't judge Zoe for going in. Having a 1/14 chance of winning 100K to support her disabled child, when she will (probably) never be able to earn something near that - 50 days away, at most, can be a "fair" sacrifice to a certain extent. It's not ideal, but a mother to a child with medical issues will do everything for her child.
John Partridge went on CBB solely to pay for his dying mother's medical treatments (before she died) when instead he "could've been by her side in her last moments instead of going on a tv show", but it will be a very shallow and unfair way of judging it.