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BBUK-Fan
06-11-2018, 06:32 PM
The coming out gave Cameron the win. His only good moment

Matthew.
06-11-2018, 06:32 PM
i thought you would have liked him

Jack_
06-11-2018, 06:32 PM
Good job he did then! :cheer2:

Kazanne
06-11-2018, 06:34 PM
Cameron was a good winner .he's done as much as any of the others.

Elliot
06-11-2018, 06:35 PM
Who cares they all sucked anamelia was this series true winner

rionablue
06-11-2018, 06:36 PM
The coming out gave Cameron the win. His only good moment

I think you are possibly right there

BBUK-Fan
06-11-2018, 06:48 PM
i thought you would have liked him

I did like him at the beginning but the all the moaning and he claims he’s a super fan but then why would you be moaning and not enjoy it

Matthew.
06-11-2018, 06:52 PM
I did like him at the beginning but the all the moaning and he claims he’s a super fan but then why would you be moaning and not enjoy it

i agree

rusticgal
06-11-2018, 07:11 PM
....he also moaned and stropped a lot which was highly entertaining.

Beastie
06-11-2018, 07:11 PM
Exactly. He won because he did something.

joeysteele
06-11-2018, 07:14 PM
However no one can say for sure it did or it didn't.
If he hadn't been gay, he and Lewis connected right off anyway.
Cameron said that in his interview.
He and Lewis had always been close.

Even before the coming out, Cameron had never been nominated enough to be up for eviction.
So most likely would never have faced the public vote.

Had Lewis not been ejected, Lewis would have won I'd say easily.
With Lewis going, Cameron coming out or not, still because of their incredible close bond, the bulk of Lewis's support would still have gone to Cameron, than any of the others.

Calderyon
06-11-2018, 07:19 PM
Very likely he wouldn't have.

BENDERBOY
06-11-2018, 08:04 PM
I think he would have won without coming out and without the Lewis factor.

He was simply far and away the best person in there.

south12345
06-11-2018, 08:15 PM
Yes it was....well played Cameron. You certainly knew how to play the game

Maxxie.
06-11-2018, 11:09 PM
They had good housemates this year although imo no one really winner worthy, I'd say the closest were Lewis F, Zoe and Akeem, but none of them compare to Pete Bennett, either Brian or Nadia!

supertv247
06-11-2018, 11:49 PM
and?

Isabelle wouldn’t have won if she hadn’t stood up to Lotan.
Jason wouldn’t have won if he hadn’t evicted Lateysha.
Helen wouldn’t have won if she didn’t have a pass to the final.

what is your point

Denver
06-11-2018, 11:53 PM
He made a mockery of coming put you only be to do it once not a million times

CaPPa
06-11-2018, 11:59 PM
I did like him at the beginning but the all the moaning and he claims he’s a super fan but then why would you be moaning and not enjoy it
Most of the people on here are usually moaning. They love to watch and have a good moan, so that's not a reason to doubt that he's a superfan.

Cameron probably wouldn't have won without Lewis being there and also wouldn't have won if Lewis wasn't kicked out.

Ant.
07-11-2018, 12:05 AM
I and many others loved Cameron before he came out. In fact, I stopped liking him after he came out (although not for that reason - see Macie's GORGEOUS thread for reasons why I wasn't big on him after a certain length of time) but after he spent less time with Lewis I went back to enjoying him more. He had times when he wasn't enjoyable but it wasn't enough for me to think "he's an AWFUL winner"
Objectively I'd say he's a good housemate and therefore a good winner. Week 1 me would be over the MOON and tbh if I actually cared about the series now I probably would be happy at Cameron winning. But even if my faves Sian and Brooke got to the final and won, I would still feel the same

But short story short, Cameron became unbearable to quite a number of us after a period of time and he managed to win some of us over weeks after coming out. I won't lie, he will have gotten support from coming out, but I honestly think he could've beaten Akeem regardless

Macie Lightfoot
07-11-2018, 01:08 AM
omg thanks for the shoutout bab :love:

Beso
07-11-2018, 07:09 AM
70% of the Big Brother's audience is female
The age group the show is most popular with is 45-54 year olds
The show is considerably more popular with lower middle class and working class viewers than it is with middle or upper middle class viewers
Nearly a quarter of viewers live in the north of England , which is the region that most loves BB. 19% are in London. Scotland (14%) and Wales (7%) care far less keen on Big Brother

Toy Soldier
07-11-2018, 09:52 AM
False: He won because he got literally all of Lewis's votes and Lewis was heavy favourite to win.

[edit] I know people like to say "he did it on his own merit" etc. but it's a simple fact that the most likely finishing order had Lewis still been there would have been

1. Lewis
2. Akeem
3. Cameron

Cherie
07-11-2018, 10:46 AM
False: He won because he got literally all of Lewis's votes and Lewis was heavy favourite to win.

[edit] I know people like to say "he did it on his own merit" etc. but it's a simple fact that the most likely finishing order had Lewis still been there would have been

1. Lewis
2. Akeem
3. Cameron

agree with this, the only reason Cameron won was due to Lewis's ejection, I think Lewis could have murdered puppies in front of our eyes and he would have won

Toy Soldier
07-11-2018, 11:21 AM
agree with this, the only reason Cameron won was due to Lewis's ejection, I think Lewis could have murdered puppies in front of our eyes and he would have won

Yeah, he had a genuinely "fanatical" fan-base by that point and there was no possible way for him to lose once it went "vote to win" (other than being ejected or walking). If anything, that fan base probably voted HARDER for Cameron after that because it was basically a Lewis proxy-vote, and they were seeking "justice" in their eyes.

Cherie
07-11-2018, 11:34 AM
Yeah, he had a genuinely "fanatical" fan-base by that point and there was no possible way for him to lose once it went "vote to win" (other than being ejected or walking). If anything, that fan base probably voted HARDER for Cameron after that because it was basically a Lewis proxy-vote, and they were seeking "justice" in their eyes.

Pretty much

Beastie
07-11-2018, 03:27 PM
Are voting percentages out yet?

Jules82
07-11-2018, 05:19 PM
However no one can say for sure it did or it didn't.
If he hadn't been gay, he and Lewis connected right off anyway.
Cameron said that in his interview.
He and Lewis had always been close.

Even before the coming out, Cameron had never been nominated enough to be up for eviction.
So most likely would never have faced the public vote.

Had Lewis not been ejected, Lewis would have won I'd say easily.
With Lewis going, Cameron coming out or not, still because of their incredible close bond, the bulk of Lewis's support would still have gone to Cameron, than any of the others.

Definitely Joey, Akeem would have had more chance had he been up against Lewis, we have to remember that neither of them were really popular in the house. Lewis was more popular on the outside and his fans mostly supported Cameron. We know that Akeem thought Lewis fans would support him so we have to ask ourselves, why did he think that. To me it just confirms that they got on ok in the house. Cameron, before Lewis left, was in about 4th or 5th place I believe.

Jigs
07-11-2018, 05:25 PM
his coming out story certainly gave him a reason to be given the win, but I do think he could have won regardless. He was an entertaining housemate and was one of the housemates that seemed to "define" the season more (the others being Lewis F, Tomasz and Akeem)

ConnorTheJudge
07-11-2018, 10:26 PM
Definitely Joey, Akeem would have had more chance had he been up against Lewis, we have to remember that neither of them were really popular in the house. Lewis was more popular on the outside and his fans mostly supported Cameron. We know that Akeem thought Lewis fans would support him so we have to ask ourselves, why did he think that. To me it just confirms that they got on ok in the house. Cameron, before Lewis left, was in about 4th or 5th place I believe.
3rd Place.

Jules82
07-11-2018, 10:48 PM
3rd Place.

Ah right....

rusticgal
07-11-2018, 10:57 PM
Definitely Joey, Akeem would have had more chance had he been up against Lewis, we have to remember that neither of them were really popular in the house. Lewis was more popular on the outside and his fans mostly supported Cameron. We know that Akeem thought Lewis fans would support him so we have to ask ourselves, why did he think that. To me it just confirms that they got on ok in the house. Cameron, before Lewis left, was in about 4th or 5th place I believe.

Don't know why Akeem would think Lewis fans would support him??...they never seemed to get on that well...and clearly Lewis spent more time with Cameron.
Akeem clearly got the anti Lewis support...and Cameron got the Lewis support after he left which was more substantial. Akeem tried too hard in the final week hence Cameron got the win...rightly so...

Jules82
07-11-2018, 11:14 PM
Don't know why Akeem would think Lewis fans would support him??...they never seemed to get on that well...and clearly Lewis spent more time with Cameron.
Akeem clearly got the anti Lewis support...and Cameron got the Lewis support after he left which was more substantial. Akeem tried too hard in the final week hence Cameron got the win...rightly so...

That is what he said in the video, did you see them? After LG told him different he soon changed his attitude.

rusticgal
08-11-2018, 10:44 PM
That is what he said in the video, did you see them? After LG told him different he soon changed his attitude.

No I didn't see them..

internetkid
08-11-2018, 10:51 PM
I don't think Cameron 'played a game' or came out in order to win, but I do believe that had he not been gay in the first place, or did not come out, then he would not have won. I liked him and could relate to him a lot but it did annoy me HOW MUCH he moaned, when he is a BB superfan and it was his life dream to be in there. However, I do understand that everything is heightened in the BB house and you cannot relate unless you have been in there.

Also, after seeing Cameron's youtube videos while I was in the house I did start to like him less. (His video on feminism came across a bit offensive)

rusticgal
08-11-2018, 11:05 PM
I think maybe his 'coming out' helped but I think his friendship with Lewis secured his win. Lewis was favorite and his ejection from the house was seen as unjust for many..fan or not. A vote for Cameron was a vote for Lewis...it spoke volumes.
I liked Cameron and wouldn't wish to take any credit from him. His 'coming out' was early on in the series and he could easily have lost that momentum. His sultry teenage behaviour actually endeared people for showing such natural traits. Adding all these things up..his win was inevitable.

Beso
09-11-2018, 07:08 AM
So now the UK loves gaynesss, I'm sure the UK was hating gayness not long ago!!