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Underscore
22-11-2018, 04:47 PM
I waver on this a lot. I obviously know having a tattoo would not impact on how you work and your attitude to work.

If someone had an obvious tattoo I'd ask them to cover it up like they do in airlines e.g. wearing a watch (if on wrist), wearing plasters, long shirts etc...

If they had it on their face I would not hire them.

Niamh.
22-11-2018, 04:49 PM
Well I married someone with a tattoo so I'd surely work with someone who had one :p

Crimson Dynamo
22-11-2018, 04:49 PM
on neck and face no - end of

if we are talking about a customer facing role then no to hands either

RileyH
22-11-2018, 04:50 PM
Yes obviously

Underscore
22-11-2018, 04:51 PM
Yes obviously

Why obviously :suspect:

Tattoos can look scruffy especially when you're trying to make your company look posh

Marsh.
22-11-2018, 04:52 PM
Why obviously :suspect:

Tattoos can look scruffy especially when you're trying to make your company look posh

I wouldn't work for such a pretentious company anyway.

Underscore
22-11-2018, 04:53 PM
I wouldn't work for such a pretentious company anyway.

Could you imagine Selfridges employing someone with their face and neck full of tattoos?

Crimson Dynamo
22-11-2018, 04:54 PM
Yes obviously

So you would employ a lad with ACAB on his knuckles or a girl who has "kill gays" on her cheek?

dont be silly

reece(:
22-11-2018, 04:55 PM
Yes, it's 2018

Crimson Dynamo
22-11-2018, 04:56 PM
Yes, it's 2018

literally means nothing

Underscore
22-11-2018, 04:57 PM
Interesting research

https://careers.workopolis.com/advice/research-reveals-how-your-tattoos-affect-your-chances-of-getting-the-job/

“Would a candidate having tattoos affect your decision to hire that person?”

Yes. I would be less likely to hire them. 13.85%

Yes. I would be more likely to hire them 0.31%

No. It would not affect my decision. 22.77%

It would depend on the role I was trying to fill. 35.08%

It would depend on how many tattoos and where they were. 28.00%

Marsh.
22-11-2018, 04:58 PM
So you would employ a lad with ACAB on his knuckles or a girl who has "kill gays" on her cheek?

dont be silly

Oh, did the OP ask if we would employ someone who has hate speech written on their face?

No I didn't think so.

smudgie
22-11-2018, 04:58 PM
Of course I would.
It never stopped me getting jobs when I had them.

Marsh.
22-11-2018, 04:59 PM
Could you imagine Selfridges employing someone with their face and neck full of tattoos?

I don't shop at Selfridges so can't answer that.

Crimson Dynamo
22-11-2018, 05:03 PM
Oh, did the OP ask if we would employ someone who has hate speech written on their face?

No I didn't think so.

pray tell me what tattoo's the op specified?

Crimson Dynamo
22-11-2018, 05:04 PM
Of course I would.
It never stopped me getting jobs when I had them.

did you have them or your face, neck or hands?

Marsh.
22-11-2018, 05:07 PM
pray tell me what tattoo's the op specified?

They didn't. As the question was would a tattoo itself prevent you employing someone.

Not "a tattoo containing offensive words or images".

But you knew that.

Crimson Dynamo
22-11-2018, 05:11 PM
They didn't. As the question was would a tattoo itself prevent you employing someone.

Not "a tattoo containing offensive words or images".

But you knew that.

that would depend on who deems what offensive


most decent employers would view a tattoo on the neck etc as offensive to their customers and would not employ

Marsh.
22-11-2018, 05:21 PM
most decent employers would view a tattoo on the neck etc as offensive to their customers and would not employ

Which is an entirely different response to "a woman with a homophobic slur on her face".

:rolleyes:

Crimson Dynamo
22-11-2018, 05:23 PM
Which is an entirely different response to "a woman with a homophobic slur on her face".

:rolleyes:

she would not be employed either

not sure what route you are going here apart from dialling back from saying you would employ someone with a face tattoo?

Marsh.
22-11-2018, 05:24 PM
she would not be employed either

not sure what route you are going here apart from dialling back from saying you would employ someone with a face tattoo?

Dialling back from saying what? I haven't said that.

But you always deflect once you've reached a point of being PROVEN wrong.

I'll leave you to it. :thumbs:

MTVN
22-11-2018, 05:27 PM
Don't see why not when it has no impact on their job performance. Think most employers would find recruiting good people hard enough without ruling someone out purely on the basis of a tattoo, I really doubt any customers are going to be that put out by it if the person provides great service

Marsh.
22-11-2018, 05:29 PM
Don't see why not when it has no impact on their job performance. Think most employers would find recruiting good people hard enough without ruling someone out purely on the basis of a tattoo, I really doubt any customers are going to be that put out by it if the person provides great service

What if that person has a big neon sign stuck to their back saying "I Hate Jews" alongside a tattoo of a penis on their cheek?


/LT

Liam-
22-11-2018, 05:38 PM
Yes, they don’t hinder someone’s ability to work so why not? Employers seem to be a lot more snotty about things like that than they assume the general public will be, ive never heard of anyone be offended by a persons tattoos in a workplace, it’s a ridiculous notion imo

Beso
22-11-2018, 05:45 PM
Yes of course...saggy earlobes caused by ridiculous piercings, no.

Beso
22-11-2018, 05:50 PM
http://goo.gl/images/dsPSZQ

https://goo.gl/images/dsPSZQ

I think you need a filling in your upper left molar Mr R.

Elliot
22-11-2018, 06:00 PM
It has zero impact on whether I’d hire someone idc I’m not a snob https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/bigbrotheruk/images/f/fa/Sallie_Axl.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130625155346

Crimson Dynamo
22-11-2018, 06:06 PM
It has zero impact on whether I’d hire someone idc I’m not a snob https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/bigbrotheruk/images/f/fa/Sallie_Axl.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130625155346

have you ever had an actual job?

LaLaLand
22-11-2018, 06:09 PM
I wouldn't work for such a pretentious company anyway.

This tbh.

I'm covered, thankfully I work for myself but I'd like to think this day in age that my tattoos wouldn't matter, it's 2018 like. As long as they're tasteful and non-offensive to anybody then I honestly don't see the problem. Jobs that wouldn't allow it aren't the type of jobs I'd apply for anyway probably.

Elliot
22-11-2018, 06:12 PM
I wouldn't work for such a pretentious company anyway.

ugh tea

Elliot
22-11-2018, 06:12 PM
have you ever had an actual job?

yes mama

JerseyWins
22-11-2018, 06:20 PM
“Would a candidate having tattoos affect your decision to hire that person?”

Yes. I would be less likely to hire them. 13.85%

Yes. I would be more likely to hire them 0.31%

No. It would not affect my decision. 22.77%

It would depend on the role I was trying to fill. 35.08%

It would depend on how many tattoos and where they were. 28.00%
:joker:

I honestly think I'd be more likely to hire them if anything though. Stereotypically, they're probably a bit more likely to be driven, go out and get it, and even have some life experience

I also don't mind / mostly like tattoos so that could be part of it (even though I'd never personally get one, not for me)

smudgie
22-11-2018, 06:44 PM
did you have them or your face, neck or hands?

All fingers and thumbs, wrists and arms.:shrug:

Redway
22-11-2018, 06:49 PM
Employ someone who shows evidence of having a life outside work?

Redway
22-11-2018, 06:50 PM
So you would employ a lad with ACAB on his knuckles or a girl who has "kill gays" on her cheek?

dont be silly

You always pick the most exaggerated examples.

Marsh.
22-11-2018, 06:59 PM
:joker:

I honestly think I'd be more likely to hire them if anything though. Stereotypically, they're probably a bit more likely to be driven, go out and get it, and even have some life experience

I also don't mind / mostly like tattoos so that could be part of it (even though I'd never personally get one, not for me)

I'm sorry but how on earth does a tattoo denote more life experience. :umm2:

JerseyWins
22-11-2018, 07:06 PM
I'm sorry but how on earth does a tattoo denote more life experience. :umm2:
It could! More willing to make changes, take "risks" etc. and a lot of times the tattoos come from life experiences, deaths, some type of meaning that motivates them.

Marsh.
22-11-2018, 07:10 PM
It could! More willing to make changes, take "risks" etc. and a lot of times the tattoos come from life experiences, deaths, some type of meaning that motivates them.

But that suggests those without tattoos have less experience, as opposed to simply not wanting/liking tattoos. :umm2:

We're all motivated in life one way or another by our experiences, the people we knew, deaths and births etc. Just because someone doesn't write it on their arm doesn't mean they're not driven.

Tattoos are like clothes, simply a personal choice and don't have any bearing on someone's quality of life, their history nor their ability to work. Any suggestion to the contrary is absolutely ridiculous. :joker:

hijaxers
22-11-2018, 08:18 PM
I waver on this a lot. I obviously know having a tattoo would not impact on how you work and your attitude to work.

If someone had an obvious tattoo I'd ask them to cover it up like they do in airlines e.g. wearing a watch (if on wrist), wearing plasters, long shirts etc...

If they had it on their face I would not hire them.

Yes i would but like you not on the face , all the old judges are covered them but not full arms as short sleeve shirts may haved to be worn! and then there al the Prince Alberts - lets not go there.

Wizard.
22-11-2018, 08:49 PM
That’s like saying would you hire someone who has facial scars or burns it’s discrimination either way.

Wizard.
22-11-2018, 08:50 PM
Like, you wouldn’t say “oh they have burns on their face it might scare customers” and if you do you’re a dick same with tattoos

Marsh.
22-11-2018, 09:04 PM
Yes i would but like you not on the face , all the old judges are covered them but not full arms as short sleeve shirts may haved to be worn! and then there al the Prince Alberts - lets not go there.

What type of job are you offering that would mean a pierced penis would affect it? :suspect:

user104658
22-11-2018, 09:20 PM
No and I would demand that they strip so that I could check that they weren't sneakily trying to hide any :suspect:.

But actually... IRL... it wouldn't be an issue unless the tattoos were excessive or offensive.

However I do think it depends on the job :shrug:. And most people who have (visible, non-coverable) tattoos are well aware of that when they choose to get them so I don't think it's a problem. It certainly isn't discrimination. A visible tattoo is a big - and permanent - life choice.

caprimint
22-11-2018, 10:01 PM
****ing hell I really hope no-one votes 'no' in 2018

Underscore
22-11-2018, 10:05 PM
That’s like saying would you hire someone who has facial scars or burns it’s discrimination either way.

Devils advocate but is it discrimination to ask employees to cover the tattoos up for example using plasters and watches like they do in airlines?

Marsh.
22-11-2018, 10:12 PM
That’s like saying would you hire someone who has facial scars or burns it’s discrimination either way.

Well, tbf, that's not the same at all. A tattoo is a fashion choice, a scar is not.

Scoot
22-11-2018, 10:36 PM
My tattoos don’t affect my ability to complete a job and if someone honestly thought otherwise I wouldn’t want to work for them anyway.

Livia
23-11-2018, 02:22 PM
So long as the tattoos weren't visible or could be hidden under long sleeves, ie, no hand, leg, face, neck tattoos.

Niamh.
23-11-2018, 02:26 PM
So long as the tattoos weren't visible or could be hidden under long sleeves, ie, no hand, leg, face, neck tattoos.

You can hide your legs too

Livia
23-11-2018, 02:31 PM
You can hide your legs too

Yeah that's true. Just so long as they didn't show, they could be virtually covered in them.

bots
23-11-2018, 02:33 PM
it would have to depend on the subject matter and position of the tattoo

Niamh.
23-11-2018, 02:33 PM
Yeah that's true. Just so long as they didn't show, they could be virtually covered in them.

Trousers would totally cover them

Crimson Dynamo
23-11-2018, 02:36 PM
Id love to go see a doctor with a Slade face tattoo

:rolleyes:

Niamh.
23-11-2018, 02:40 PM
Id love to go see a doctor with a Slade face tattoo

:rolleyes:

A doctor with a slade tattoo had to pass the same exams as one without a tattoo, hope that helps :)

Crimson Dynamo
23-11-2018, 02:42 PM
A doctor with a slade tattoo had to pass the same exams as one without a tattoo, hope that helps :)

so did Shipman and Josef Mengele

hope that helps too

Niamh.
23-11-2018, 02:48 PM
so did Shipman and Josef Mengele

hope that helps too

Neither of those had face tattoos though :hee:

Withano
23-11-2018, 05:02 PM
Yeh. I’m like really modern though.

user104658
23-11-2018, 07:40 PM
There's a GP at my local surgery that looks so much like Shipman :umm2:

RileyH
23-11-2018, 07:46 PM
There's a GP at my local surgery that looks so much like Shipman :umm2:

Maybe it is him :p

Crimson Dynamo
23-11-2018, 08:30 PM
Neither of those had face tattoos though :hee:

:fist:

They were too bust murdering people

LaLaLand
23-11-2018, 08:48 PM
The last time I was in A&E (broken foot) the head guy in the fracture place had two sleeves as well as little expander tunnels in his ear lobes.

World's changing guys!

Niamh.
23-11-2018, 11:14 PM
:fist:

They were too bust murdering peopleErgo you're much safer with a tattod doctor as murdering doctors don't have the time for tattooing :hee:

Mystic Mock
24-11-2018, 02:32 AM
Being serious though of course I would, if people want to be highly judgemental then that's upto them, but I don't think that people should be made to feel ashamed of having a Tattoo.

glibberglobber
24-11-2018, 07:57 AM
Why obviously :suspect:

Tattoos can look scruffy especially when you're trying to make your company look posh

But you never specialised if it was a tattoo company

AnnieK
24-11-2018, 08:46 AM
Ergo you're much safer with a tattod doctor as murdering doctors don't have the time for tattooing :hee:

Indeed....:laugh:

Zizu
24-11-2018, 12:21 PM
I waver on this a lot. I obviously know having a tattoo would not impact on how you work and your attitude to work.

If someone had an obvious tattoo I'd ask them to cover it up like they do in airlines e.g. wearing a watch (if on wrist), wearing plasters, long shirts etc...

If they had it on their face I would not hire them.



Much the same as you plus it would depend on the job / work involved


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Tom4784
24-11-2018, 02:57 PM
As long as it's not something like a swastika, I don't care. Jobs should go to whomever is best for them, having tattoos doesn't diminish a person's ability to do a job and it's just a very snobby thing to deny someone a job over.

What someone does with their own body is their own choice, if they want it to be a tapestry for their art then so be it.

Maru
24-11-2018, 10:10 PM
Probably tattoos matter in certain lines of work (like hospitality, "influencers", modeling, etc) where having a clean appearance would matter.

Just the same, Chinese restaurants here will employ asian-featured people to work tables. I have no idea how that works without racial discrimination being a complaint, but it is almost always a shared-race establishment. I always figured it was for "authenticity" :shrug:

When it comes to branding, we want certain models who not only align visually with the company's image, but also maybe individuals whose values or impressions fit more accurately represents their clients and their clientbase. So yeah tattoos are going to matter for certain jobs.

Discrimination happens naturally as part of business to some degree. I think most people who are the type to use the whole body as their personal canvas, they probably would not align with certain jobs anyway. They'd be more likely to enter the creative field or other lines of work where they're not public-facing... or go into business themselve as (many are doing).

Do I care if I employ someone who has a tattoo? No, not really. My clients might care if I choose photos of people with a ton of body markings for their professional websites. It would distract from their core message. Unless of course that's the demographic they are going for, relaxed, artistic, self-expressive, etc. Most tattoos though used in moderation though, they can look quite good, so I think it's quality over quantity. The best tattoo jobs are the ones I don't really notice right away, but rather I appreciate eventually as part of that's person's personality. It's easy to enjoy the craftsmanship and considered placement rather than someone covered like a mural. But that's just a personal opinion. I feel like tattoo ink can make a person look ghoulish if overdone just because of the muddy colors most people use, those charcoal blacks & blues. But probably if they did super bright colors (NOT outlined in black--that's boring) they could look quite original.

An example of beautiful tattoo work on the neck/face (not colored like I mentioned, but still good):

https://i.imgur.com/ovlB27e.png
:love: Jadzia from Startrek DS9 :love:

Mystic Mock
24-11-2018, 11:32 PM
Jadzia.:love:

Zizu
25-11-2018, 07:31 AM
This girl would be great in show business , tatt shop , beauticians etc Maybe not in the local bank ... although she IS devastatingly beautiful so I wouldn't mind her taking my money over the counter .. if she looked like Miley Cyrus maybe not ..


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