I Am So Sick Of This Racist Thing

[BigBrotherMad]

Right firstly Emily was just trying to communicate with Charley . 2 Series of Big Brother have been effected by racism , I think tomorow we will see a few new housemates eneter the house to drift the press off the topic . I think this racial incedint comes from Emilys love of music and this is a way she could connect with Charley . They where dancing just having fun .
ah well , I Just hope this small incident does not take over the series

[Amy]

It's like anything.. this is the first bit of big news to come from the series so far. Channel 4 have to be careful after CBB and Emily may or may not have realised what she said.. I'm shocked she said it but I'd prefer to see how it was said on the show tonight, if they show it at all.

[Amy21]

Originally posted by BigBrotherMad
Right firstly Emily was just trying to communicate with Charley . 2 Series of Big Brother have been effected by racism , I think tomorow we will see a few new housemates eneter the house to drift the press off the topic . I think this racial incedint comes from Emilys love of music and this is a way she could connect with Charley . They where dancing just having fun .
ah well , I Just hope this small incident does not take over the series

I dont think Emily was just using that word with the music. She meant it. She wouldnt of said something like that if she was joking around. This is very serious and I hope Emily gets whats coming to her. I am glad Big Brother has chucked her out of the house.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by BigBrotherMad
Right firstly Emily was just trying to communicate with Charley . 2 Series of Big Brother have been effected by racism , I think tomorow we will see a few new housemates eneter the house to drift the press off the topic . I think this racial incedint comes from Emilys love of music and this is a way she could connect with Charley . They where dancing just having fun .
ah well , I Just hope this small incident does not take over the series She was just tying to communicate with Charley? Emily used that word due to her love of music? I'm afraid you're going to have to explain your logic. I'm baffled.

[Ella]

I love music to. But that doesn't mean I go around calling my coloured friends what Emily called Charley.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Amy
It's like anything.. this is the first bit of big news to come from the series so far. Channel 4 have to be careful after CBB and Emily may or may not have realised what she said.. I'm shocked she said it but I'd prefer to see how it was said on the show tonight, if they show it at all. Again. Why does it matter how she said it. Do you think that just because she wasn't trying to cause offence that it's OK?

[Bells]

It won't take over the series, because she's gone and that's that.

[Cody™]

the point isnt whether she meant it or not.. the point is that she said it and if channel 4 did not act upon it then they'd be in big trouble this time round. channel 4 made the right decision and people should be careful when they use such words.

[stella]

Im sorry i think racism is poo i dont believe in it if these rappers can use the N word in their music and call it each other then why should it be a problem when a white person uses the word

[Amy]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Amy
It's like anything.. this is the first bit of big news to come from the series so far. Channel 4 have to be careful after CBB and Emily may or may not have realised what she said.. I'm shocked she said it but I'd prefer to see how it was said on the show tonight, if they show it at all. Again. Why does it matter how she said it. Do you think that just because she wasn't trying to cause offence that it's OK?

I'm not saying at all that what she said was ok.. and we could talk about racism for hours.. I'd just prefer to see what happened tonight. I don't agree at all with racism. All i'm saying is I personally think she did not mean it the way she said it.. what she said was wrong and she got what she deserved. At the end of the day we all have very different views that's what makes a great forum. I just find it sad in this day and age that wars are caused over religion and racism.. not good.

[telefan]

I think it's a bit silly, I've seen people say worse on other tv shows. The only reason emily has been booted out is because bb is just back on our screen but the skin of its teeth and they had to be harsh.
My view: If they had of practiced their anti-rasicm scheme whilst their precious Ms. Goody was in the house none of this would have happened.
Davina said on charlotte church that she hoped it wouldnt be like this and it is!!

[SxcMegzy]

[/quote]She was just tying to communicate with Charley? Emily used that word due to her love of music? I'm afraid you're going to have to explain your logic. I'm baffled. [/quote]

Basically the logic of his comment was that she didn't mean it to be racist or offensive. Which she didn't nobody took offense. Charley turned around and said in the conversation 'I'm a *****'... Basically nobody has seen it aired so nobody can say it was meant in a racist way

[Amy21]

Originally posted by stella
Im sorry i think racism is poo i dont believe in it if these rappers can use the N word in their music and call it each other then why should it be a problem when a white person uses the word

It is a problem when someone who is white calls someone who is coloured. That is called racism!. And that is a very serious thing.

And so what if music artists use it in their songs there not dilberately saying it to hurt someone. Where as Emily was last night. Its a completely different thing here.

Amy I think you be on our side and not be on Emily's when she said a racist comment. I dont think anyone would say something like that if they were joking around and to me and everyone else here it looks she was being serious using that word.

[SxcMegzy]

Originally posted by telefan2006
I think it's a bit silly, I've seen people say worse on other tv shows. The only reason emily has been booted out is because bb is just back on our screen but the skin of its teeth and they had to be harsh.
My view: If they had of practiced their anti-rasicm scheme whilst their precious Ms. Goody was in the house none of this would have happened.
Davina said on charlotte church that she hoped it wouldnt be like this and it is!!

I completely agree with the. The Jade Goody thing was completely blown out of proportion, she should have been removed. Now because of BB's future mistakes Emily has been romoved and there will be more media coverage on how bad it was rather than just not airing it, warning emily and keeping it off air and low profile. That way no media, no black supremists trying to ban the show. I mean I'm the least racist person in the world, but this is just gettin out of hand

Guess we won't see a BB9...

[~Kizwiz~]

Its clear to see that BB was and is now going to stamp on anyone who says a racist term. And rightly so..... they have had their knuckles rappedover CBB and certainly didnt want to come any where near what happened in January.

And to be fair...contestants should have known this.

[Amy]

Originally posted by Amy21
Amy I think you be on our side and not be on Emily's when she said a racist comment. I dont think anyone would say something like that if they were joking around and to me and everyone else here it looks she was being serious using that word.

That is not what I mean.. what I'm saying is that she may not have meant it in the way we think it was said.. I'm not saying once you watch the show we go "ok, that's fine she's joking" that's not what I'm saying at all.. I'm just meerly saying she may not have meant to cause this stir and could well be regretting it big time. I'm not saying it's ok to do it/say it or anything like that just that she may not have meant it.

[InTheFade]

Okay, so next time I want to communicate with a black person, I'll be sure to call them a ******, right?

[Bells]

Originally posted by Cody™
the point isnt whether she meant it or not.. the point is that she said it and if channel 4 did not act upon it then they'd be in big trouble this time round. channel 4 made the right decision and people should be careful when they use such words.

I agree, and the fact that C4 handled the situation like this means it's not done them a great deal of damage and we can watch future BBs as long as there are viewers (of which there are plenty).

[SxcMegzy]

Originally posted by Amy21
Originally posted by stella
Im sorry i think racism is poo i dont believe in it if these rappers can use the N word in their music and call it each other then why should it be a problem when a white person uses the word

It is a problem when someone who is white calls someone who is coloured. That is called racism!. And that is a very serious thing.

And so what if music artists use it in their songs there not dilberately saying it to hurt someone. Where as Emily was last night. Its a completely different thing here.

Amy I think you be on our side and not be on Emily's when she said a racist comment. I dont think anyone would say something like that if they were joking around and to me and everyone else here it looks she was being serious using that word.

I disagree with racism bieng a load of poo, and I disbeleive that you interpet that as racism. We have not heard it bieng said, sorry but, in this case you can't call her a racist because we've seen the quotes.

She was quoting on Black-Culture, I don't belive she said '******'... I beleive '*****' will be the phrase said. Two intirly different things. ****** offensive noun, ***** adjective

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by stella
Im sorry i think racism is poo i dont believe in it if these rappers can use the N word in their music and call it each other then why should it be a problem when a white person uses the word How many times do i have to answer this one?

First of all, I have to point out that I'm of Jamaican ancestry. Now, this word was a word that I grew up hearing over and over again. No one uses this word like my mother. Trust me.

The whole point is that - when black people use this word we know what we are saying. When a a white person uses this word we don't know what they're saying. So my advise to white people is to avoid using this word in the presence of a black person because we don't know what you're trying to say by using this word. It's double standard, I know, but it's like telling racist jokes. Jewish people can tell Jewish Jokes, black people an tell black joke. Basically, if you're not one then avoid anything that could be construed as racist.

[Slartibartfast]

I really don't want to start a fight, but there has been a lot of talk about the fact that simply using the word ****** is offensive no matter what the motive or context.

Yet I've seen a few people use the term "coloured" in a few different threads. This term is actually considered quite offensive as well these days. Maybe not as inflammatory as the "n" word but still considered to be inappropriate:

The American English term (spelt as colored) had a related, but different meaning and was primarily used to refer to African Americans - except in the State of Louisiana, where it legally denoted people of mixed European and sub-Saharan African ancestry. The use of term in this way is now considered archaic and offensive in most contexts; nonetheless it remains part of the title of the NAACP, a prominent African-American organisation, and has been employed by some members of the African-American community as a legitimate ethnic/racial label when intentionally self-chosen and used in a respectful manner. "People of color" is currently used more frequently than "colored", but in the American usage, the phrase refers more generally to all people who do not describe themselves as "white", including people of Asian, Native American and African descent. In a British context "coloured" has also been used to refer to black people, although this is now regarded as an old-fashioned and somewhat offensive usage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloured

[stella]

So your saying she just went up to Charley an called her a ***** in a nasty way? Coz am sure Charley would of knocked seven shades of Sh**t out of her if that was the case....If somone is innocently singin one of these rap songs an ***** is part of the song then who's to blame? i say the very people that dont like racism themselfs is the people that cause it half the time

[Amy]

Originally posted by Slartibartfast
I really don't want to start a fight, but there has been a lot of talk about the fact that simply using the word ni**er is offensive no matter what the motive or context.

Yet I've seen a few people use the term "coloured". This term is actually considered quite offensive as well these days. Maybe not as inflammatory as the "n" word but still considered to be inappropriate:

The American English term (spelt as colored) had a related, but different meaning and was primarily used to refer to African Americans - except in the State of Louisiana, where it legally denoted people of mixed European and sub-Saharan African ancestry. The use of term in this way is now considered archaic and offensive in most contexts; nonetheless it remains part of the title of the NAACP, a prominent African-American organisation, and has been employed by some members of the African-American community as a legitimate ethnic/racial label when intentionally self-chosen and used in a respectful manner. "People of color" is currently used more frequently than "colored", but in the American usage, the phrase refers more generally to all people who do not describe themselves as "white", including people of Asian, Native American and African descent. In a British context "coloured" has also been used to refer to black people, although this is now regarded as an old-fashioned and somewhat offensive usage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloured

I was thinking that myself..

[Mrluvaluva]

Communicate through her love of music? I love music. Would never dream of doing something like this! N****r is a slang word used in a derogatory way against black people. P*ki is also one. Are these acceptable words to refer to people as? So if I said "You pushing it out you p*ki", is that acceptable too?

[InTheFade]

But I also have a feeling that if Charley had called Emily 'white trash' (which could be considered offensive and obviously isn't true in Emily's case anyway but IF), there wouldn't have been much said about it.

[SxcMegzy]

Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by Cody™
the point isnt whether she meant it or not.. the point is that she said it and if channel 4 did not act upon it then they'd be in big trouble this time round. channel 4 made the right decision and people should be careful when they use such words.

I agree, and the fact that C4 handled the situation like this means it's not done them a great deal of damage and we can watch future BBs as long as there are viewers (of which there are plenty).


I'm white a lot of my family are mixed race of chinese/white origin and black/white origin... I call them *****s when talking to them because they call themselves *****s and none of them are truelly black.

note that ***** and ****** are completly different things

[InTheFade]

Originally posted by ~~
Communicate through her love of music? I love music. Would never dream of doing something like this! N****r is a slang word used in a derogatory way against black people. P*ki is also one. Are these acceptable words to refer to people as? So if I said "You pushing it out you p*ki", is that acceptable too?

But remember how Shahbaz branded himself a '**** puff'? That's two discriminatory terms and no one seemed to give this a second thought.

[stella]

Originally posted by Jaz0
But I also have a feeling that if Charley had called Emily 'white trash' (which could be considered offensive and obviously isn't true in Emily's case anyway but IF), there wouldn't have been much said about it.

Exactley

[Bells]

Originally posted by SxcMegzy
Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by Cody™
the point isnt whether she meant it or not.. the point is that she said it and if channel 4 did not act upon it then they'd be in big trouble this time round. channel 4 made the right decision and people should be careful when they use such words.

I agree, and the fact that C4 handled the situation like this means it's not done them a great deal of damage and we can watch future BBs as long as there are viewers (of which there are plenty).


I'm white a lot of my family are mixed race of chinese/white origin and black/white origin... I call them *****s when talking to them because they call themselves *****s and none of them are truelly black.

note that ***** and ni**er are completly different things

Yeah, I'm on about C4's reputation. :conf:

[Amy21]

Originally posted by Amy

That is not what I mean.. what I'm saying is that she may not have meant it in the way we think it was said.. I'm not saying once you watch the show we go "ok, that's fine she's joking" that's not what I'm saying at all.. I'm just meerly saying she may not have meant to cause this stir and could well be regretting it big time. I'm not saying it's ok to do it/say it or anything like that just that she may not have meant it.

Amy how else could a racist term such a n@ggar be used???. Exactly you cant! Emily ment it when she said that word. I dont see using that word as a joke towards soemone who is coloured. I hope they throw the book at Emily for her racist behaviour.

[Lance]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by stella
Im sorry i think racism is poo i dont believe in it if these rappers can use the N word in their music and call it each other then why should it be a problem when a white person uses the word How many times do i have to answer this one?

First of all, I have to point out that I'm of Jamaican ancestry. Now, this word was a word that I grew up hearing over and over again. No one uses this word like my mother. Trust me.

The whole point is that - when black people use this word we know what we are saying. When a a white person uses this word we don't know what they're saying. So my advise to white people is to avoid using this word in the presence of a black person because we don't know what you're trying to say by using this word. It's double standard, I know, but it's like telling racist jokes. Jewish people can tell Jewish Jokes, black people an tell black joke. Basically, if you're not one then avoid anything that could be construed as racist.

I just think it isn't fair that black people can use the word and it's OK and white people can't. If the word is unacceptable nobody should be allowed to use it. White, black, asian... whatever.

I wonder if Charley would have been thrown out if she said the word to a fellow black housemate?

I get called a Paddy on a regular basis here, but that's never deemed unacceptable. When I could actually take offence to it.

[SxcMegzy]

Originally posted by Jaz0
But I also have a feeling that if Charley had called Emily 'white trash' (which could be considered offensive and obviously isn't true in Emily's case anyway but IF), there wouldn't have been much said about it.


Of course not, now I'm not racist by any stretch of the imagination. But in a predominantly white multi cultural country, white people will always draw a short straw.

[telefan]

What stinks is that if charley had of said White Trash to emily nothing would of happened!!

[Lance]

Originally posted by SxcMegzy
Originally posted by Jaz0
But I also have a feeling that if Charley had called Emily 'white trash' (which could be considered offensive and obviously isn't true in Emily's case anyway but IF), there wouldn't have been much said about it.


Of course not, now I'm not racist by any stretch of the imagination. But in a predominantly white multi cultural country, white people will always draw a short straw.

Exactly - that's what has come of this country.

[Amy]

Originally posted by Amy21
Originally posted by Amy

That is not what I mean.. what I'm saying is that she may not have meant it in the way we think it was said.. I'm not saying once you watch the show we go "ok, that's fine she's joking" that's not what I'm saying at all.. I'm just meerly saying she may not have meant to cause this stir and could well be regretting it big time. I'm not saying it's ok to do it/say it or anything like that just that she may not have meant it.

Amy how else could a racist term such a n@ggar be used???. Exactly you cant! Emily ment it when she said that word. I dont see using that word as a joke towards soemone who is coloured. I hope they throw the book at Emily for her racist behaviour.

I'm not going to get into an argument about this as that's how wars are started.. but please re-read what I said .. I'm taking offence that people are making me out to be racist. When all i've actually said is "she may not have meant it" I'm NOT racist. I've said I don't agree with what Emily has done.. So i'm leaving it here before this all turns into a war.

[stella]

I just think it isn't fair that black people can use the word and it's OK and white people can't. If the word is unacceptable nobody should be allowed to use it. White, black, asian... whatever.

I wonder if Charley would have been thrown out if she said the word to a fellow black housemate?

I get called a Paddy on a regular basis here, but that's never deemed unacceptable. When I could actually take offence to it.

Well said totally agree

[GiRTh]

My comparison to racist jokes explains this. If Chris Rock and Bernard Manning tell the same joke then Chris Rock can get away with it. In my post I point out that it's a double standard. I dont celebrate the use of the word i just feel that a white person who I'd never met before would be taking a big risk if they used that word in front of me.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Jaz0
Originally posted by ~~
Communicate through her love of music? I love music. Would never dream of doing something like this! N****r is a slang word used in a derogatory way against black people. P*ki is also one. Are these acceptable words to refer to people as? So if I said "You pushing it out you p*ki", is that acceptable too?

But remember how Shahbaz branded himself a '**** puff'? That's two discriminatory terms and no one seemed to give this a second thought.

Have you read Girths previous post?

[Dan_]

Originally posted by telefan2006
What stinks is that if charley had of said White Trash to emily nothing would of happened!!

How do you know that though?

[RichardBB]

Well done to Channel 4, it shows they've learnt although I was enjoying Emily but at the end of the day she shouldn't have said what she said.

Will this be shown on the highlights or is it to risque?

[Lance]

Originally posted by Amy
Originally posted by Amy21
Originally posted by Amy

That is not what I mean.. what I'm saying is that she may not have meant it in the way we think it was said.. I'm not saying once you watch the show we go "ok, that's fine she's joking" that's not what I'm saying at all.. I'm just meerly saying she may not have meant to cause this stir and could well be regretting it big time. I'm not saying it's ok to do it/say it or anything like that just that she may not have meant it.

Amy how else could a racist term such a n@ggar be used???. Exactly you cant! Emily ment it when she said that word. I dont see using that word as a joke towards soemone who is coloured. I hope they throw the book at Emily for her racist behaviour.

I'm not going to get into an argument about this as that's how wars are started.. but please re-read what I said .. I'm taking offence that people are making me out to be racist. When all i've actually said is "she may not have meant it" I'm NOT racist. I've said I don't agree.. So i'm leaving it here before this all turns into a war.

I'm actually agreeing with Amy's point.

I'm willing to debate it, too.

She obviously didn't say it with malicious intent. It's not as if she had any reason to.

Big Brother are just taking all pre-cautions as their reputation is in massive danger since CBB.

It's just becoming ridiculous.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Dan_
Originally posted by telefan2006
What stinks is that if charley had of said White Trash to emily nothing would of happened!!

How do you know that though? I agree Dan. it's hugely presumtious to say that.

[Amy21]

Originally posted by SxcMegzy
I disagree with racism bieng a load of poo, and I disbeleive that you interpet that as racism. We have not heard it bieng said, sorry but, in this case you can't call her a racist because we've seen the quotes.

She was quoting on Black-Culture, I don't belive she said '******'... I beleive '*****' will be the phrase said. Two intirly different things. ni**er offensive noun, ***** adjective

It IS racism what else can this be???. The convosation transcript has been written down on here on what was said and it looks to me and everyone else like racism. Dont be so nieve and accept this is racism and Emily should get in alot of trouble for this now she has been kicked out of the house.

[SxcMegzy]

What makes me laugh is that there removing contestants in a game show for racism. But where are people to shut down the BNP and white supremicy gangs...

But nope to much to focus on about Evil-Emily and her offensive one woman battle against people of ethnicity different to her.


*please not the sarcasm of the last comment*

[Amy21]

Originally posted by Amy


I'm not going to get into an argument about this as that's how wars are started.. but please re-read what I said .. I'm taking offence that people are making me out to be racist. When all i've actually said is "she may not have meant it" I'm NOT racist. I've said I don't agree with what Emily has done.. So i'm leaving it here before this all turns into a war.

You need to open your eyes Amy and see this is racism and it is not accepted anywhere. If you support her through this then that makes you a racist supporter. I am not getting into an argument with you just stating my opinion.

[SxcMegzy]

Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by SxcMegzy
Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by Cody™
the point isnt whether she meant it or not.. the point is that she said it and if channel 4 did not act upon it then they'd be in big trouble this time round. channel 4 made the right decision and people should be careful when they use such words.

I agree, and the fact that C4 handled the situation like this means it's not done them a great deal of damage and we can watch future BBs as long as there are viewers (of which there are plenty).


I'm white a lot of my family are mixed race of chinese/white origin and black/white origin... I call them *****s when talking to them because they call themselves *****s and none of them are truelly black.

note that ***** and ni**er are completly different things

Yeah, I'm on about C4's reputation. :conf:

I meant to quote someone elses comment lol

[stella]

Girth explain to me why Chris Rock telling a racist joke is ok and Bernard manning not......Surely racism who ever says it? Im not prepared to accept this ***** word has double standards im British im in my own country and if i want to use the word i will if a black person( yes they use the word black on sky news should that be took off air) doesnt like it then its tuff sh**t

[InTheFade]

Originally posted by ~~
Originally posted by Jaz0
Originally posted by ~~
Communicate through her love of music? I love music. Would never dream of doing something like this! N****r is a slang word used in a derogatory way against black people. P*ki is also one. Are these acceptable words to refer to people as? So if I said "You pushing it out you p*ki", is that acceptable too?

But remember how Shahbaz branded himself a '**** puff'? That's two discriminatory terms and no one seemed to give this a second thought.

Have you read Girths previous post?

Yes I have and I agree that a white person would be taking a risk by calling a black person a ****** but a word should either be deemed offensive or it shouldn't. It shouldn't be okay for one person to use a certain word and not okay for another. I personally wouldn't take offence if someone called me white trash, whether they be black or white but just for the sake of it, I might provoke an outcry if a black person called me that because apparently, that's not acceptable. Oh but if I did, I'd probably be called racist anyway.

[Slartibartfast]

You could all read these articles on Wikipedia and see that this argument has been going on for years and will not be settled any time soon it seems:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*****

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/******

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloured

Yeah I know they're longer than 3 lines so some may not bother reading them, but at least it would stop these arguments going round and round on a constant basis.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Amy21
Originally posted by Amy


I'm not going to get into an argument about this as that's how wars are started.. but please re-read what I said .. I'm taking offence that people are making me out to be racist. When all i've actually said is "she may not have meant it" I'm NOT racist. I've said I don't agree with what Emily has done.. So i'm leaving it here before this all turns into a war.

You need to open your eyes Amy and see this is racism and it is not accepted anywhere. If you support her through this then that makes you a racist supporter. I am not getting into an argument with you just stating my opinion.

That's ridiculous.

Amy was saying that she didn't think Emily meant it in an offensive way. That, in no way, makes her a supporter of racism.:rolleyes:

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by SxcMegzy
Originally posted by Jaz0
But I also have a feeling that if Charley had called Emily 'white trash' (which could be considered offensive and obviously isn't true in Emily's case anyway but IF), there wouldn't have been much said about it.


Of course not, now I'm not racist by any stretch of the imagination. But in a predominantly white multi cultural country, white people will always draw a short straw. What are you on about?

[Amy]

Originally posted by Amy21
Originally posted by Amy


I'm not going to get into an argument about this as that's how wars are started.. but please re-read what I said .. I'm taking offence that people are making me out to be racist. When all i've actually said is "she may not have meant it" I'm NOT racist. I've said I don't agree with what Emily has done.. So i'm leaving it here before this all turns into a war.

You need to open your eyes Amy and see this is racism and it is not accepted anywhere. If you support her through this then that makes you a racist supporter. I am not getting into an argument with you just stating my opinion.

You've called me racist twice for having the opinion that she may not have meant it .. thank you very much. I've said on numerous threads that she got what she deserved.… We are ALL entitled to an opinion.. I don't complain about you using the term coloured yet that is classed as racism. you need to open YOUR eyes to what I'm really saying and that is SIMPLY she may not have meant to say it the way it was said. What she said was WRONG and I DON'T agree with it.

I'm out of this thread it's not helping anyone to go over and over something that has now been sorted.

[Amy21]

Originally posted by Lance
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That's ridiculous.

Amy was saying that she didn't think Emily meant it in an offensive way. That, in no way, makes her a supporter of racism.:rolleyes:

It is NOT ridiculous!.

Amy should think about how serious this is and not stick up for someone as nasty as Emily and to not make excuses for her saying "Oh she didnt mean it in that". How else can you mean a racist term as n@gger???. You cant!!!!!. Thats why this is racism. Get real Amy and Lance.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by stella
Girth explain to me why Chris Rock telling a racist joke is ok and Bernard manning not......Surely racism who ever says it? Im not prepared to accept this ***** word has double standards Im British Im in my own country and if i want to use the word i will if a black person( yes they use the word black on sky news should that be took off air) doesnt like it then its tuff sh**t If Chris Rock tell a joke that I, as a black man, uinderstand where he is coming from. Bernard Manning is not black thus he does not have the right to stereotype. Are you aware that Chris Rock got into trouble for doing a piece that was deemed racist. so, it's possible for a black comedian to cause offence too. After all, as a man, if I started doing jokes about all women being bitches and *****s would you let me get away with it?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Jaz0

Yes I have and I agree that a white person would be taking a risk by calling a black person a ni**er but a word should either be deemed offensive or it shouldn't. It shouldn't be okay for one person to use a certain word and not okay for another. I personally wouldn't take offence if someone called me white trash, whether they be black or white but just for the sake of it, I might provoke an outcry if a black person called me that because apparently, that's not acceptable. Oh but if I did, I'd probably be called racist anyway.

I would not be offened if someone of a different ethnic background called me "white trash". But not everyone is the same as you and me. Some people would be offended by it. So it is just better not to do it. Especially on TV. I think that "n****r" is a lot stronger than "white trash" also.

[Amy]

Originally posted by Amy21
Originally posted by Lance
i

That's ridiculous.

Amy was saying that she didn't think Emily meant it in an offensive way. That, in no way, makes her a supporter of racism.:rolleyes:

It is NOT ridiculous!.

Amy should think about how serious this is and not stick up for someone as nasty as Emily and to not make excuses for her saying "Oh she didnt mean it in that". How else can you mean a racist term as n@gger???. You cant!!!!!. Thats why this is racism. Get real Amy and Lance.

You clearly do not understand what I'm saying. How am I supporting her and third time you've called me racist..

[Amy21]

Originally posted by Amy


You've called me racist twice for having the opinion that she may not have meant it .. thank you very much. I've said on numerous threads that she got what she deserved.… We are ALL entitled to an opinion.. I don't complain about you using the term coloured yet that is classed as racism. you need to open YOUR eyes to what I'm really saying and that is SIMPLY she may not have meant to say it the way it was said. What she said was WRONG and I DON'T agree with it.

I'm out of this thread it's not helping anyone to go over and over something that has now been sorted.

Calling someone coloured isnt racism!.

And I have do have my eyes wide open and I see whats really going on and thats racism by a nasty bitch like Emily. Its you who needs to open your eyes Amy!. And Emily did mean to say it in that way. Everyone knows it except you.

[Amy21]

Originally posted by Amy




You clearly do not understand what I'm saying.

Yes I do understand everything that is said. Its you who doesnt.

[InTheFade]

Originally posted by Amy21
Originally posted by Lance
i

That's ridiculous.

Amy was saying that she didn't think Emily meant it in an offensive way. That, in no way, makes her a supporter of racism.:rolleyes:

It is NOT ridiculous!.

Amy should think about how serious this is and not stick up for someone as nasty as Emily and to not make excuses for her saying "Oh she didnt mean it in that". How else can you mean a racist term as n@gger???. You cant!!!!!. Thats why this is racism. Get real Amy and Lance.

Hey, don't really want to get involved in this but I don't think anyone in their right mind would stick up for a racist but do you really think that Emily genuinely intended that remark to be racist? Would she really have said it in front of Charley if that was the case? Don't you think the issue really is that Emily is just a stupid little girl rather than a racist?

[Lance]

Originally posted by Amy21
Originally posted by Lance
i

That's ridiculous.

Amy was saying that she didn't think Emily meant it in an offensive way. That, in no way, makes her a supporter of racism.:rolleyes:

It is NOT ridiculous!.

Amy should think about how serious this is and not stick up for someone as nasty as Emily and to not make excuses for her saying "Oh she didnt mean it in that". How else can you mean a racist term as n@gger???. You cant!!!!!. Thats why this is racism. Get real Amy and Lance.

It is ridiculous.

If black people say ******, they must be racist too. Seen as anyone who uses the word is racist. According to yourself. All these black rappers who use the word in their songs are all supporters of racism - according to what you are saying.

You're using the word in your posts, you must be racist too, Amy21.

I'm not going to reply to you after this post because you clearly don't have the ability to understand people's opinions on the matter.

[Slartibartfast]

Originally posted by Amy21
Originally posted by Amy


You've called me racist twice for having the opinion that she may not have meant it .. thank you very much. I've said on numerous threads that she got what she deserved.… We are ALL entitled to an opinion.. I don't complain about you using the term coloured yet that is classed as racism. you need to open YOUR eyes to what I'm really saying and that is SIMPLY she may not have meant to say it the way it was said. What she said was WRONG and I DON'T agree with it.

I'm out of this thread it's not helping anyone to go over and over something that has now been sorted.

Calling someone coloured isnt racism!.

I disagree, here's my earlier post:



I really don't want to start a fight, but there has been a lot of talk about the fact that simply using the word ****** is offensive no matter what the motive or context.

Yet I've seen a few people use the term "coloured" in a few different threads. This term is actually considered quite offensive as well these days. Maybe not as inflammatory as the "n" word but still considered to be inappropriate:

The American English term (spelt as colored) had a related, but different meaning and was primarily used to refer to African Americans - except in the State of Louisiana, where it legally denoted people of mixed European and sub-Saharan African ancestry. The use of term in this way is now considered archaic and offensive in most contexts; nonetheless it remains part of the title of the NAACP, a prominent African-American organisation, and has been employed by some members of the African-American community as a legitimate ethnic/racial label when intentionally self-chosen and used in a respectful manner. "People of color" is currently used more frequently than "colored", but in the American usage, the phrase refers more generally to all people who do not describe themselves as "white", including people of Asian, Native American and African descent. In a British context "coloured" has also been used to refer to black people, although this is now regarded as an old-fashioned and somewhat offensive usage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloured

[Amy]

Originally posted by Amy21
Originally posted by Amy


You've called me racist twice for having the opinion that she may not have meant it .. thank you very much. I've said on numerous threads that she got what she deserved.… We are ALL entitled to an opinion.. I don't complain about you using the term coloured yet that is classed as racism. you need to open YOUR eyes to what I'm really saying and that is SIMPLY she may not have meant to say it the way it was said. What she said was WRONG and I DON'T agree with it.

I'm out of this thread it's not helping anyone to go over and over something that has now been sorted.

Calling someone coloured isnt racism!.

And I have do have my eyes wide open and I see whats really going on and thats racism by a nasty bitch like Emily. Its you who needs to open your eyes Amy!. And Emily did mean to say it in that way. Everyone knows it except you.

what for saying simply that she may well not have meant to cause all of this??? i'm defending her am i.. when I've clearly stated what she said is wrong

[Lance]

Originally posted by Jaz0
Hey, don't really want to get involved in this but I don't think anyone in their right mind would stick up for a racist but do you really think that Emily genuinely intended that remark to be racist? Would she really have said it in front of Charley if that was the case? Don't you think the issue really is that Emily is just a stupid little girl rather than a racist?

EXACTLY.

[Blink_Me]

This thread is getting out of hand. I don't agree with it. I hate racism in everyway. I don't care if she said it in a joking way, I don't like the word. I don't think anyone should use it.

[slash/]

Emily's motive for saying it is completely irrelevant.

It doesn't matter if the people she was talking to didn't take offence to it - people who are watching might do. It's not only the recipients of racism who can find it offensive.

Do I think Emily is racist? No I don't. But you can't go around using that as an excuse.

[Mrluvaluva]

Aren't we going off topic here guys?

[Amy21]

Originally posted by Lance
It is ridiculous.

If black people say ni**er, they must be racist too. Seen as anyone who uses the word is racist. According to yourself. All these black rappers who use the word in their songs are all supporters of racism - according to what you are saying.

You're using the word in your posts, you must be racist too, Amy21.

I'm not going to reply to you after this post because you clearly don't have the ability to understand people's opinions on the matter.

It is NOT ridiculous!!!!.

I didnt say music artists are supporters of rasicm your just twisting my words now. And black people who call other black people are racist. Its when different coloured people call eachother that when it is racism.

And I have NOT used racist words in my posts to hurt anyone on here. I am just stating what has been said by Emily to get my point across to everyone.

And I do have to ability to understand everything that is said and dont post again if you dont like what I say. In fact dont enter a thread that I post on.

[Amy21]

Originally posted by Amy

what for saying simply that she may well not have meant to cause all of this??? i'm defending her am i.. when I've clearly stated what she said is wrong

Yes you need to have your eyes more open Amy and see what really going on and that is Emily is a racist!!!!!.

[Nikkos]

I liked Emily but I agree with Big Brother. They need to do everything necessary to keep the Big Brother we know and love up and running.

[Amy]

Originally posted by Nikkos
They need to do everything necessary to keep the Big Brother we know and love up and running.

Totally agree mate.

[Mrluvaluva]

OK. I am quitting this conversation because I don't want anybody to fall out over this.

[Red Moon]

This is all getting to personal and the insults will start flying soon which is against the TiBB rules

For that reason and that reason only I'm closing this thread.

Lets all take five minutes and cool down

Red