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the_chosen_one
07-06-2007, 04:44 PM
...for what they've done to Emily.

This great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving girl has been used as a 'sacrificial lamb' in the television companies ploy to win back respect after the way they handled Celebrity big Brother 5.

Emily would not have gone this week, and she probably would have won the competition, but now, she has to go home.

Big Brother is to blame.

Bells
07-06-2007, 04:45 PM
Fair enough, that's your opinion.

EDIT: I won't pass full judgement until I know absolutely everything, or see it, because I feel viewers are entitled to that. And I don't think BB would've ejected Emily unless they thought it was necessary in the circumstances - at the end of the day they want to gain viewers, not jeopardise their position in the audience's eyes.

officialleafan
07-06-2007, 04:45 PM
I couldn't a gree more, they completely over-reacted and the radio and everyone thinks so.

Psylocke
07-06-2007, 04:46 PM
She clearly brought it on herself,she showed Ignorance in a clearly touche subject.

Its not BB fault that the girl didnt show any intelligence.

Mrluvaluva
07-06-2007, 04:47 PM
We all knew they would show zero tolerance on any remarks that could be construed as racist, or any bullying.

Billy
07-06-2007, 04:48 PM
Sorry disagree.
Emily DID bring this on herself, if it was anyone chanelle, all emily fans would be saying she should go. She really showed her lack of intelligence and I also think she wouldnt have won.

officialleafan
07-06-2007, 04:48 PM
But you see coloured singers using that word all the time in songs, and Nicky and Charley was saying as wel after Emily. And they both said they wasn't bothered!

the_chosen_one
07-06-2007, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by Psylocke
She clearly brought it on herself,she showed Ignorance in a clearly touche subject.

Its not BB fault that the girl didnt show any intelligence.

But she had heard the word spoken in the house already, how was she to know there'd be an appalling double standard employed?

MaDdOctoR
07-06-2007, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Sorry disagree.
Emily DID bring this on herself, if it was anyone chanelle, all emily fans would be saying she should go. She really showed her lack of intelligence and I also think she wouldnt have won.

I wouldn't for the simple fact I can tell when people are being malicious and when they are not.....

from what I've read Emily is not racist, and should not be labelled as so.

and I would say the same for Chanelle if she did the same as much as I dislike her.....

dOc

MaDdOctoR
07-06-2007, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by officialleafan
But you see coloured singers using that word all the time in songs, and Nicky and Charley was saying as wel after Emily. And they both said they wasn't bothered!

you do know the term "coloured" is offensive to some people right?

dOc

The_BB_Detective
07-06-2007, 04:59 PM
she borght it on her self channel4 dident want this whole thing happen again

officialleafan
07-06-2007, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by MaDdOctoR
Originally posted by officialleafan
But you see coloured singers using that word all the time in songs, and Nicky and Charley was saying as wel after Emily. And they both said they wasn't bothered!

you do know the term "coloured" is offensive to some people right?

dOc

If it has offended some people, then i apologise, i am just trying to say that some singers use that word in songs!

Arneldo
07-06-2007, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
...for what they've done to Emily.

This great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving girl has been used as a 'sacrificial lamb' in the television companies ploy to win back respect after the way they handled Celebrity big Brother 5.

Emily would not have gone this week, and she probably would have won the competition, but now, she has to go home.

Big Brother is to blame.

This "great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving" girl used the most offensive racist remark a person could used. She deserved what she got. I dont think C4 used her win back respect, they did hat they thought was best - and it was the best thing.

How can you sand up for this girl?

Blink_Me
07-06-2007, 05:04 PM
If Big Brother would have left it, they simply would be getting questioned by Ofcom, which might have lead for Channel 4 taking it off the air.

Blink_Me
07-06-2007, 05:05 PM
Oh, and Emily had no chance of winning - she's too much of a bitch.

Billy
07-06-2007, 05:07 PM
To be fair though, this is nothing like the CBB5 race row. cos jade danielle and co said there things out of nastiness Emily didnt

the_chosen_one
07-06-2007, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
...for what they've done to Emily.

This great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving girl has been used as a 'sacrificial lamb' in the television companies ploy to win back respect after the way they handled Celebrity big Brother 5.

Emily would not have gone this week, and she probably would have won the competition, but now, she has to go home.

Big Brother is to blame.

This "great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving" girl used the most offensive racist remark a person could used. She deserved what she got. I dont think C4 used her win back respect, they did hat they thought was best - and it was the best thing.

How can you sand up for this girl?

The comment wasn't racist, so that's all I can say in response. If you give an example of a real crime, maybe it would be something that's hard to stand up for. At the moment, any person could easily stand up for Emily.

MaDdOctoR
07-06-2007, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by officialleafan
Originally posted by MaDdOctoR
Originally posted by officialleafan
But you see coloured singers using that word all the time in songs, and Nicky and Charley was saying as wel after Emily. And they both said they wasn't bothered!

you do know the term "coloured" is offensive to some people right?

dOc

If it has offended some people, then i apologise, i am just trying to say that some singers use that word in songs!

I am not personally offended by it, I was just making sure that you knew.

before someone else sparked up....

so don't take it to badly....I was just asking :wink:

dOc

Arneldo
07-06-2007, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
...for what they've done to Emily.

This great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving girl has been used as a 'sacrificial lamb' in the television companies ploy to win back respect after the way they handled Celebrity big Brother 5.

Emily would not have gone this week, and she probably would have won the competition, but now, she has to go home.

Big Brother is to blame.

This "great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving" girl used the most offensive racist remark a person could used. She deserved what she got. I don't think C4 used her win back respect, they did hat they thought was best - and it was the best thing.

How can you sand up for this girl?

The comment wasn't racist, so that's all I can say in response. If you give an example of a real crime, maybe it would be something that's hard to stand up for. At the moment, any person could easily stand up for Emily.

Emily may not have meant it in a racist way, and it may not have been offensive to Charley but it could be offensive to millions and millions of people who watch the programme. No matter which way you look at it - that is a racist comment. She deserved to thrown out. End of.

officialleafan
07-06-2007, 05:14 PM
I know that :) Thanks for telling me

Revol
07-06-2007, 05:17 PM
Who cares if she didn't say it with racial intent? It's still a word you don't use. Are you telling me that it'd be alright for me to refer to all black people I know as "*******" as long as I don't mean it as a derogatory term? Come off it!

Billy
07-06-2007, 05:19 PM
VCK - Thats different. Black people cal ech other it and they call white friends wh*ggers. Emily obviously knew she shudnt have said and regretted it

MaDdOctoR
07-06-2007, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
...for what they've done to Emily.

This great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving girl has been used as a 'sacrificial lamb' in the television companies ploy to win back respect after the way they handled Celebrity big Brother 5.

Emily would not have gone this week, and she probably would have won the competition, but now, she has to go home.

Big Brother is to blame.

This "great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving" girl used the most offensive racist remark a person could used. She deserved what she got. I don't think C4 used her win back respect, they did hat they thought was best - and it was the best thing.

How can you sand up for this girl?

The comment wasn't racist, so that's all I can say in response. If you give an example of a real crime, maybe it would be something that's hard to stand up for. At the moment, any person could easily stand up for Emily.

Emily may not have meant it in a racist way, and it may not have been offensive to Charley but it could be offensive to millions and millions of people who watch the programme. No matter which way you look at it - that is a racist comment. She deserved to thrown out. End of.

and again They BOTH said the same word....so they BOTH should have been taken out.....just because Charley is black doesn't make it right for her to stay in and Emily be taken out....

It's actually quite offensive to a lot of people that BB has done that....

dOc

MaDdOctoR
07-06-2007, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by officialleafan
I know that :) Thanks for telling me

:dance2::dance::cheer::cheer2::elephant::wink:

dOc

the_chosen_one
07-06-2007, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Arneldo
Emily may not have meant it in a racist way, and it may not have been offensive to Charley but it could be offensive to millions and millions of people who watch the programme. No matter which way you look at it - that is a racist comment. She deserved to thrown out. End of.

It's not the 'end of' at all, particularly seeing as your argument is so see through. Just because people are offended, does not mean the comment is racist. Just because someone verbalises a word does not mean they have unbridled hate for an entire race of people.

Revol
07-06-2007, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
VCK - Thats different. Black people cal ech other it and they call white friends wh*ggers. Emily obviously knew she shudnt have said and regretted it

I'm sure she does regret it. She did a stupid thing and is facing the consequences.

Arneldo
07-06-2007, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Emily may not have meant it in a racist way, and it may not have been offensive to Charley but it could be offensive to millions and millions of people who watch the programme. No matter which way you look at it - that is a racist comment. She deserved to thrown out. End of.

It's not the 'end of' at all, particularly seeing as your argument is so see through. Just because people are offended, does not mean the comment is racist. Just because someone verbalises a word does not mean they have unbridled hate for an entire race of people.

Emily isnt racist. But the comment is. Its highly offensive and Emily deserved to be removed. I know that Charley said it but if BB felt that Charley also deserved to be removed then he would have done so.

Billy
07-06-2007, 05:30 PM
^^^ Your comment sucks, if Big Brother felt charley should be removed they should have. thats b*****s

the_chosen_one
07-06-2007, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Emily may not have meant it in a racist way, and it may not have been offensive to Charley but it could be offensive to millions and millions of people who watch the programme. No matter which way you look at it - that is a racist comment. She deserved to thrown out. End of.

It's not the 'end of' at all, particularly seeing as your argument is so see through. Just because people are offended, does not mean the comment is racist. Just because someone verbalises a word does not mean they have unbridled hate for an entire race of people.

Emily isnt racist. But the comment is. Its highly offensive and Emily deserved to be removed. I know that Charley said it but if BB felt that Charley also deserved to be removed then he would have done so.

Therefore, you have contradicted yourself, or at least contradicted Big Brother.

If the comment is racist, and it is the simple fact of the comment which carries the crime, Charley is guilty of it too, and so Big Brother must eject them both.

bighead
07-06-2007, 06:01 PM
the rules state the following, or something like it.
'you must not say anything that may offend a house mate or a member of public.'

weather it offended charley or not, it will have offended some of the public. just like shilpa, she didn't think it was bullying but we did.

Gap
07-06-2007, 06:08 PM
There is absolutely no way they over reacted, had they kept her in there after that there wouldn't be a show.

Gap
07-06-2007, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
^^^ Your comment sucks, if Big Brother felt charley should be removed they should have. thats b*****s
I actually think she's got a valid point, they did the right thing and I think your comment ''sucks''. Just cos you like her doesn't mean that they were wrong in removing her!

Anyway, everyone's entitled to their own opinion!

Magic
07-06-2007, 06:37 PM
i really am dissapointed..could they not just exlude her?

sunlight
07-06-2007, 06:45 PM
why are we making it a white against black thing. emily was wrong. and please stop judging british black people by silly american rappers some of you are sounding as bad as jade and co.

xcharleyx
07-06-2007, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
...for what they've done to Emily.

This great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving girl has been used as a 'sacrificial lamb' in the television companies ploy to win back respect after the way they handled Celebrity big Brother 5.

Emily would not have gone this week, and she probably would have won the competition, but now, she has to go home.

Big Brother is to blame.

i agree completley.

Dan_
07-06-2007, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
...for what they've done to Emily.

This great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving girl has been used as a 'sacrificial lamb' in the television companies ploy to win back respect after the way they handled Celebrity big Brother 5.

Emily would not have gone this week, and she probably would have won the competition, but now, she has to go home.

Big Brother is to blame.

Well this so called intelligent girl should have been a bit more wise and not used a word that is liable to cause offence.It's pure ignorance.

Emily had too many people who disliked her and had she stayed after this she would have gained even more detractors, she'd have gone.

MR.K!
07-06-2007, 07:23 PM
Emily was an idiot.. i didnt like her... im glad shes gone

Turrican
07-06-2007, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
...for what they've done to Emily.

This great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving girl has been used as a 'sacrificial lamb' in the television companies ploy to win back respect after the way they handled Celebrity big Brother 5.

Emily would not have gone this week, and she probably would have won the competition, but now, she has to go home.

Big Brother is to blame.

For someone supposedly "intelligent" how did she think she could use racism after what happened in the Celebrity Big Brother fiasco!? It just goes to show her arrogance that she thought she could get away this.

I highly doubt she would have won this contest btw... the polls after yesterday suggested more people wanted her out than shab's (after Emily started showing her true colours - lying and bitching constantly)

Glad she's gone. She was revolting.

nodisharmony
07-06-2007, 08:27 PM
Emily has been chucked out of the BB house.

But it is really too early to say, that it is going to spoil the show. Simply because it is too early in the series.

More housemates will enter the house & other's will leave.

We've been there before.





nodisharmony :angel:

Wil
07-06-2007, 08:38 PM
I think it was an alright decision, a bit drastic but it kind of had to be. But i do feel sorry for her, I think she should of made an apologie to the nation or something like that.

But BB decision was not a a bad one in my opinion justa drastic one

rororo06
07-06-2007, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Emily may not have meant it in a racist way, and it may not have been offensive to Charley but it could be offensive to millions and millions of people who watch the programme. No matter which way you look at it - that is a racist comment. She deserved to thrown out. End of.

It's not the 'end of' at all, particularly seeing as your argument is so see through. Just because people are offended, does not mean the comment is racist. Just because someone verbalises a word does not mean they have unbridled hate for an entire race of people.

Emily isnt racist. But the comment is. Its highly offensive and Emily deserved to be removed. I know that Charley said it but if BB felt that Charley also deserved to be removed then he would have done so.

Therefore, you have contradicted yourself, or at least contradicted Big Brother.

If the comment is racist, and it is the simple fact of the comment which carries the crime, Charley is guilty of it too, and so Big Brother must eject them both.


No there is a differnace! Emily called Charley the n word while Charley called herself the n word thats the point! i cant belaive how you can stick up for that dumb silly girl

sunlight
07-06-2007, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by rororo06
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Emily may not have meant it in a racist way, and it may not have been offensive to Charley but it could be offensive to millions and millions of people who watch the programme. No matter which way you look at it - that is a racist comment. She deserved to thrown out. End of.

It's not the 'end of' at all, particularly seeing as your argument is so see through. Just because people are offended, does not mean the comment is racist. Just because someone verbalises a word does not mean they have unbridled hate for an entire race of people.

Emily isnt racist. But the comment is. Its highly offensive and Emily deserved to be removed. I know that Charley said it but if BB felt that Charley also deserved to be removed then he would have done so.

Therefore, you have contradicted yourself, or at least contradicted Big Brother.

If the comment is racist, and it is the simple fact of the comment which carries the crime, Charley is guilty of it too, and so Big Brother must eject them both.


No there is a differnace! Emily called Charley the n word while Charley called herself the n word thats the point! i cant belaive how you can stick up for that dumb silly girl

that's what i don't get some are trying to turn this on charley for some reason. emily said it no one told her to.

cgimusic
07-06-2007, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
...for what they've done to Emily.

This great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving girl has been used as a 'sacrificial lamb' in the television companies ploy to win back respect after the way they handled Celebrity big Brother 5.

Emily would not have gone this week, and she probably would have won the competition, but now, she has to go home.

Big Brother is to blame.

This "great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving" girl used the most offensive racist remark a person could used. She deserved what she got. I don't think C4 used her win back respect, they did hat they thought was best - and it was the best thing.

How can you sand up for this girl?

The comment wasn't racist, so that's all I can say in response. If you give an example of a real crime, maybe it would be something that's hard to stand up for. At the moment, any person could easily stand up for Emily.

Emily may not have meant it in a racist way, and it may not have been offensive to Charley but it could be offensive to millions and millions of people who watch the programme. No matter which way you look at it - that is a racist comment. She deserved to thrown out. End of.

Not meaning to be rude but the comment was directed at Charley and I dont see why all the black population has to get involved if Charley knows Emily didn't mean it.

rororo06
07-06-2007, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by sunlight
Originally posted by rororo06
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Emily may not have meant it in a racist way, and it may not have been offensive to Charley but it could be offensive to millions and millions of people who watch the programme. No matter which way you look at it - that is a racist comment. She deserved to thrown out. End of.

It's not the 'end of' at all, particularly seeing as your argument is so see through. Just because people are offended, does not mean the comment is racist. Just because someone verbalises a word does not mean they have unbridled hate for an entire race of people.

Emily isnt racist. But the comment is. Its highly offensive and Emily deserved to be removed. I know that Charley said it but if BB felt that Charley also deserved to be removed then he would have done so.

Therefore, you have contradicted yourself, or at least contradicted Big Brother.

If the comment is racist, and it is the simple fact of the comment which carries the crime, Charley is guilty of it too, and so Big Brother must eject them both.


No there is a differnace! Emily called Charley the n word while Charley called herself the n word thats the point! i cant belaive how you can stick up for that dumb silly girl

that's what i don't get some are trying to turn this on charley for some reason. emily said it no one told her to.


I know ! people who dislike Charley are trying to turn this round on her! people face it Emily called Charley who is a black woman the n word there is no way that can be taken any other way then rascism! Channel 4 proved they have learned their lesson and i applaud them!

rororo06
07-06-2007, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by cgimusic
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
...for what they've done to Emily.

This great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving girl has been used as a 'sacrificial lamb' in the television companies ploy to win back respect after the way they handled Celebrity big Brother 5.

Emily would not have gone this week, and she probably would have won the competition, but now, she has to go home.

Big Brother is to blame.

This "great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving" girl used the most offensive racist remark a person could used. She deserved what she got. I don't think C4 used her win back respect, they did hat they thought was best - and it was the best thing.

How can you sand up for this girl?

The comment wasn't racist, so that's all I can say in response. If you give an example of a real crime, maybe it would be something that's hard to stand up for. At the moment, any person could easily stand up for Emily.

Emily may not have meant it in a racist way, and it may not have been offensive to Charley but it could be offensive to millions and millions of people who watch the programme. No matter which way you look at it - that is a racist comment. She deserved to thrown out. End of.

Not meaning to be rude but the comment was directed at Charley and I dont see why all the black population has to get involved if Charley knows Emily didn't mean it.


Emily did mean it

sunlight
07-06-2007, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by cgimusic
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
...for what they've done to Emily.

This great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving girl has been used as a 'sacrificial lamb' in the television companies ploy to win back respect after the way they handled Celebrity big Brother 5.

Emily would not have gone this week, and she probably would have won the competition, but now, she has to go home.

Big Brother is to blame.

This "great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving" girl used the most offensive racist remark a person could used. She deserved what she got. I don't think C4 used her win back respect, they did hat they thought was best - and it was the best thing.

How can you sand up for this girl?

The comment wasn't racist, so that's all I can say in response. If you give an example of a real crime, maybe it would be something that's hard to stand up for. At the moment, any person could easily stand up for Emily.

Emily may not have meant it in a racist way, and it may not have been offensive to Charley but it could be offensive to millions and millions of people who watch the programme. No matter which way you look at it - that is a racist comment. She deserved to thrown out. End of.

Not meaning to be rude but the comment was directed at Charley and I dont see why all the black population has to get involved if Charley knows Emily didn't mean it.

is charley the only black person in the world?

Cody™
07-06-2007, 09:30 PM
She completely brought it upon herself. Nobody forced her to say it.

CharlotteSometimes
07-06-2007, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by Arneldo

This "great, entertaining, intelligent, fun loving" girl used the most offensive racist remark a person could used. She deserved what she got. I dont think C4 used her win back respect, they did hat they thought was best - and it was the best thing.

How can you sand up for this girl?

Emily's behaviour was stupid, and she deserved the action that was subsequently taken against her. But I'm not sure why you think Emily is indefensible, yet have an Emma banner in your signature? She used the same word on BB5, but the difference is that she got away with it.

Big_Brother_Nutter
07-06-2007, 10:06 PM
I think Big Brother should be ashamed of themselves... removing an INNOCENT girl... just because they messed up in CBB5 WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE REMOVED JADE FOR HER RACIST COMMENTS.... BUT THEY DIDN'T... Well I never thought I'd be saying this but it deserves to be cancelled!!!

Mike
07-06-2007, 10:13 PM
It annoys me more that this whole thing will be spoke about for days to come now and keep getting compared to CBB, would like to think people can get on with show but doubt that will be the case.

Gap
07-06-2007, 10:13 PM
Well, they had to do something or the show would deffiantely have been cancelled. There's no chance of it happening again so the show can now continue safely.

Dan_
07-06-2007, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by Big_Brother_Nutter
I think Big Brother should be ashamed of themselves... removing an INNOCENT girl... just because they messed up in CBB5 WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE REMOVED JADE FOR HER RACIST COMMENTS.... BUT THEY DIDN'T... Well I never thought I'd be saying this but it deserves to be cancelled!!!

On one hand you say they should get rid of Jade for racist comments but you think they have been unfair to Emily who used a racist term.

the_chosen_one
07-06-2007, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by rororo06
Originally posted by sunlight
Originally posted by rororo06
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Arneldo
Emily may not have meant it in a racist way, and it may not have been offensive to Charley but it could be offensive to millions and millions of people who watch the programme. No matter which way you look at it - that is a racist comment. She deserved to thrown out. End of.

It's not the 'end of' at all, particularly seeing as your argument is so see through. Just because people are offended, does not mean the comment is racist. Just because someone verbalises a word does not mean they have unbridled hate for an entire race of people.

Emily isnt racist. But the comment is. Its highly offensive and Emily deserved to be removed. I know that Charley said it but if BB felt that Charley also deserved to be removed then he would have done so.

Therefore, you have contradicted yourself, or at least contradicted Big Brother.

If the comment is racist, and it is the simple fact of the comment which carries the crime, Charley is guilty of it too, and so Big Brother must eject them both.


No there is a differnace! Emily called Charley the n word while Charley called herself the n word thats the point! i cant belaive how you can stick up for that dumb silly girl

that's what i don't get some are trying to turn this on charley for some reason. emily said it no one told her to.


I know ! people who dislike Charley are trying to turn this round on her! people face it Emily called Charley who is a black woman the n word there is no way that can be taken any other way then rascism! Channel 4 proved they have learned their lesson and i applaud them!

Don't try and twist my argument to imply I hate Charley. I'm extremely fond of Charley and felt considerable sympathy when she couldn't control her emotion at hearing the word.

This is not about blaming other housemates - this about blaming Big Brother and Channel 4 for their hypocrisy, and setting up this situation to manipulate forgiveness for the way they handled CBB5.

Emily's comment would have never made the edit, under different circumstances.

bringbackscience
07-06-2007, 11:44 PM
charley calling herself a n****r

and

emily calling charley a n****r

are two seperate matters entirely

I dont like the fact Charley has called herself it but she is not calling someone else it. Im sure if Charley had called nikky (or emily i suppose, although it wouldnt make sense) a n****r, Charley would have been ejected.

To try and make out the two things are the same is wrong imo

Blink_Me
07-06-2007, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by bringbackscience
charley calling herself a n****r

and

emily calling charley a n****r

are two seperate matters entirely

I dont like the fact Charley has called herself it but she is not calling someone else it. Im sure if Charley had called nikky (or emily i suppose, although it wouldnt make sense) a n****r, Charley would have been ejected.

To try and make out the two things are the same is wrong imo

Spot on.

moonwolf
08-06-2007, 01:15 AM
Personally, I think Charley's more to blame than Emily!?

Emily said something she shouldn't have and should have been punished in one way or another but, not kicked out. That was extreme!

But, Charley, who didn't seem to let it bother her at the time and wanted to keep it quiet when Emily apologised, suddenly started harping on and on and on: "I can't believe you said that", "I'm shocked by what you just said", "Why did you say that?".
Then she started saying "No, it's cool, just forget it", "Nobody else needs to know", "Let's just forget it", "Just drop it, ok" etc etc.

Next thing you see is Charley blabbing it to everyone who'll listen, she even brings it up in the bedroom when the others - who didn't know anything had hapened - are talking as normal, and starts a big fuss there too.

No, Charley had to get the limelight and made damn sure that BB and all the housemates knew exactly what was said. She couldn't let it drop. She saw a chance to get rid of at least one piece of competition and she took it!

If she'd have stuck by her "I'm not bovvered" comments and kept her gob shut, then Emily would have probably just been penalised in some smaller way.

If Charley had called Emily a Honky or Chalky, would she have been booted out - I very much doubt it? Probably just a warning!

Btw, I'm not a fan of Emily. I think she's a spoilt rich-bitch who had no great talent except for arguing about tongs/straighteners etc! But BB took it to the max and made an example of her. That was way too harsh!

Keith_Can
08-06-2007, 02:12 AM
Hey all white people know the implications of using the "N" word. This argument seems to be based on BB being a hypocrite about it but like it or not when us whites use it its considered rascist.

With all the pressure on BB this season they did the right thing IMO and squished the problem very quickly. Emily considers herself Blond & Smart ,.she shoulda been smarter.

BTW chosen,. could you change your avatar,. go for the newer badass anakin from ep 3 man,. that pic reminds me of the pouty bad acting kid from attack of the clones :) joking but serious

geoking66
08-06-2007, 04:14 AM
Here's the thing, if she hadn't said it in reference (or to) Charley, then it probably wouldn't have been as serious. However, I think that they should have given her the Michelle-trying-to-burn-the-Diary-Room-camera-punishment and given her a final warning instantly and if she misbehaved again then should would be ejected.

LDN07
08-06-2007, 05:22 AM
It IS her fault, you can't blame BB for this. It's a silly argument when people say "Oh but black artists use it and whatever!" well guess what...that doesn't mean it's right, I don't agree with them using it either but just because they say doesn't mean we should either, just don't say it!!!

I don't think Emily is a racist or a hateful person but that was an incredibly ignorant thing to say and it is her fault because she along with all of us knew how touchy BB and C4 would be about racial subjects after CBB, I mean she doesn't live in a box she knew what it was about, so the fact that she actually said that was incredibly stupid knowing that she'd suffer a severe consequence.

BB would be in even more trouble if they kept her in or tried to hide it.

Captain.Remy
08-06-2007, 07:37 AM
By the way, the housemates have been warned before entering inthe Big Brother house about the fact that offensive words are not tolerated.

spacebandit
08-06-2007, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by rororo06

No there is a differnace! Emily called Charley the n word while Charley called herself the n word thats the point! i cant belaive how you can stick up for that dumb silly girl

The difference when you and others contradict yourselves.

You say the word is offensive

I say the intent and the context in which the word is said is what causes the offence.

You say she had to be removed because she said the word

I say, had it not been for CBB5 she would not have been removed, she would have gotten the most serious warning and the HM's would have talked it through, and in light of the nominations the GBP would have made the ultimate decision, but because of CBB5 and the undeniable racism which took place in that show, she HAD to be removed.

Your contradiction comes when you say the word itself is offensive and by saying it she had to be removed, and you ignore intent and context

Therefore the only way your position can stand scrutiny is if they remove everyone who said the word.

As it is Łndemol are holdening themselves to a psoition, and you are agreeing with it, that you are judged differently depending on your ethnicity.


No word in and of itself is racist, though a word can have history and racist connotations. Regardless, it is the context in which the word is used that makes it racist.

This situation is the offspring of CBB5 and the actions of genuine racist lowlives.

InTheFade
08-06-2007, 09:08 AM
She would never have won and do you actually think Big Brother had a choice? The show probably would have been cancelled altogether if they hadn't!

sunlight
08-06-2007, 09:53 AM
bb had no choice. all the people saying it was nothing like the cbb thing are right cause it wasn't that want on for weeks, this was nipped in the bud straight away. my god bb can never win. remember how small it started with dan,jade and co. they couldn't risk it.