View Full Version : Jon Snow draws complaints for 'WHITE PEOPLE' remark at Brexit rally
Crimson Dynamo
01-04-2019, 01:22 PM
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More than 2,000 people have complained after Channel 4 presenter Jon Snow said of a pro-Brexit rally that he had "never seen so many white people".
Media watchdog Ofcom said it had received 2,025 complaints and was deciding whether to investigate.
The Channel 4 News anchor made the comment when he was signing off from Friday evening's live bulletin.
A spokeswoman said it was "an unscripted observation", and said Channel 4 News regretted any offence.
Snow was speaking as pictures showed protesters in Westminster after MPs had rejected Prime Minister Theresa May's EU withdrawal agreement on the day the UK was due to leave the EU.
Snow told viewers: "It's been the most extraordinary day. A day which has seen... I have never seen so many white people in one place, it's an extraordinary story.
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"There are people everywhere, there are crowds everywhere."
An Ofcom spokeswoman said: "We are assessing these complaints against our broadcasting rules, but are yet to decide whether or not to investigate."
The remarks drew criticism from some viewers who described the comments about "white people" as unnecessary.
In a statement, the Channel 4 News a spokeswoman said: "This was an unscripted observation at the very end of a long week of fast-moving Brexit developments.
"Jon has covered major events such as this over a long career and this was a spontaneous comment reflecting his observation that, in a London demonstration of that size, ethnic minorities seemed to be significantly under-represented.
"We regret any offence caused by his comment."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47774564
No surprise that he's never seen that many White people, Living in his London bubble. He wants to get out a bit more. the ignorant tw@
Nicky91
01-04-2019, 01:25 PM
yeah well but you can expect to get complaints if you say racist stupid crap like that
and also this guy seriously is called Jon Snow, like the GoT character :joker:
arista
01-04-2019, 01:29 PM
Yes it was on the Ch4 YouTube broadcast.
Sadly Jon was not given any Live guests?
On the ITV/ITN/Ch4news Scaffolding section
So it was his own observation.
That BBC link has it Wrong
It was the 2PM YOU TUBE broadcast --- NOT TV news
"The Channel 4 News anchor made the comment when he was signing off from Friday evening's live bulletin."
Stupid BBC link getting the Ch4News YOU TUBE Live Feed 2PM mixed up with the 7PM TV news
Crimson Dynamo
01-04-2019, 01:31 PM
yeah well but you can expect to get complaints if you say racist stupid crap like that
and also this guy seriously is called Jon Snow, like the GoT character :joker:
what is racist specifically?
Nicky91
01-04-2019, 01:33 PM
what is racist specifically?
the ''never seen so many white people'' bit
Surely he must have seen more White people at the remain march the week before? There were 2 million people there apparently, and judging from the pictures, they were mostly White.
Matthew.
01-04-2019, 01:36 PM
This has got to be some sort of ****ty April Fool’s joke, surely? :umm2:
People complain that the world has gone PC mad because they can’t be bigoted without being challenged, however they throw a tantrum when a white person refers to white people as “white people”. Bloody hell
arista
01-04-2019, 01:39 PM
This has got to be some sort of ****ty April Fool’s joke, surely? :umm2:
People complain that the world has gone PC mad because they can’t be bigoted without being challenged, however they throw a tantrum when a white person refers to white people as “white people”. Bloody hell
No it was Complaints made on Saturday.
But that BBC link has it wrong
it was NOT the 7PM TV News
It was the Special Live You Tube Feed
that started around 2PM
No it was made Yesterday.
But that BBC link has it wrong
it was NOT the 7PM TV News
It was the Special Live You Tube Feed
that started around 2PMNo, it was made on Friday at the Leave march.
arista
01-04-2019, 01:45 PM
No, it was made on Friday at the Leave march.
Yes it was
But not on the 7PM TV news on Friday
Stupid bbc link gets it wrong
It was the Live YouTube Feed at 2PM Friday
I posted the link on the EU thread
Crimson Dynamo
01-04-2019, 01:47 PM
the ''never seen so many white people'' bit
yes that is right as there were lots of white people and london is not like that anymore
Tom4784
01-04-2019, 01:47 PM
This has got to be some sort of ****ty April Fool’s joke, surely? :umm2:
People complain that the world has gone PC mad because they can’t be bigoted without being challenged, however they throw a tantrum when a white person refers to white people as “white people”. Bloody hell
They're the same people that brand others snowflakes too, you can't make it up.
Just goes to show how hypocritical the right often are, everything is PC gone mad.... Until it benefits them.
Notting Hill carnival
I've never seen so many Black people
Said nobody ever
Protest in Nigeria
I've never seen so many Black people
Said nobody ever
Protest in Britain
I've never seen so many White people
Said Channel 4 news
Marsh.
01-04-2019, 02:00 PM
yes that is right as there were lots of white people and london is not like that anymore
It aint just Londoners who protest. Why you expect the crowds to be a perfect representation of London demographics is odd.
Jordan.
01-04-2019, 02:02 PM
Sorry but this just sounded so forced and corny coming from a rich white man's mouth.
Crimson Dynamo
01-04-2019, 02:03 PM
It aint just Londoners who protest. Why you expect the crowds to be a perfect representation of London demographics is odd.
I dont, that was the ironically named Mr Snow
What would have been the reaction if he had said he didn't see any black people in the crowd
Nicky91
01-04-2019, 02:03 PM
It aint just Londoners who protest. Why you expect the crowds to be a perfect representation of London demographics is odd.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-44005360
a fine example is this from last year in May, protest march in scotland, for their independence
What would have been the reaction if he had said he didn't see any black people in the crowdHe couldn't have said that, because he knew there was many ethnicities in there, he was just race baiting to his audience.
arista
01-04-2019, 02:15 PM
Protest in Britain
I've never seen so many White people
Said Channel 4 news
Yes but less viewers
as it was Not on the TV 7PM news
It was on the You Tube Ch4News Live feed
around 2PM.
Twosugars
01-04-2019, 02:32 PM
who else would be objecting if not those who push the false agenda of white race being oppressed and discriminated against? The right wing.
Northern Monkey
01-04-2019, 03:09 PM
Surely he must have seen more White people at the remain march the week before? There were 2 million people there apparently, and judging from the pictures, they were mostly White.
That is true.From the pics i saw it was nearly all middle class white people.
Where was Jon Snow then??
Cherie
01-04-2019, 03:10 PM
That is true.From the pics i saw it was nearly all middle class white people.
Where was Jon Snow then??
no where!
Northern Monkey
01-04-2019, 03:28 PM
I think people probably complained not because they were particularly offended but more because of the hypocrisy of it.
You’d never hear a supposedly professional news reader come out with ‘I’ve never seen so many black people in one place’
Like there’s literally no reason to start bringing up people’s skin colour.
It’s a weird comment to make.
Cherie
01-04-2019, 03:51 PM
I think people probably complained not because they were particularly offended but more because of the hypocrisy of it.
You’d never hear a supposedly professional news reader come out with ‘I’ve never seen so many black people in one place’
Like there’s literally no reason to start bringing up people’s skin colour.
It’s a weird comment to make.
Agreed
Elliot
01-04-2019, 03:52 PM
Tbh tho all the people at these sort of rally’s are white lol idk what’s wrong with pointing out a blatant fact. Guess it triggers the snowflakes skjskjs
Northern Monkey
01-04-2019, 03:57 PM
Tbh tho all the people at these sort of rally’s are white lol idk what’s wrong with pointing out a blatant fact. Guess it triggers the snowflakes skjskjs
So when they cover BLM marches do you hear ‘wow,I’ve never seen so many black people in one place’
Of course not.
There’s no reason to say it.
What was the context behind his weird statement?
What was he trying to imply?
He’s supposed to be a news reader.
Twosugars
01-04-2019, 03:59 PM
So when they cover BLM marches do you hear ‘wow,I’ve never seen so many black people in one place’
Of course not.
There’s no reason to say it.
What was the context behind his weird statement?
What was he trying to imply?
He’s supposed to be a news reader.
Maybe he was observing that not many non-white people marched to call for brexit?
I have no problem with such observation. It gives a lot to think about.
Smithy
01-04-2019, 03:59 PM
White people really don’t like being called White People huh
Northern Monkey
01-04-2019, 04:14 PM
Maybe he was observing that not many non-white people marched to call for brexit?
I have no problem with such observation. It gives a lot to think about.
He didn’t say that though.He said “I’ve never seen so many white people in one place”.
There weren’t many non-white people at the remain one either from what we saw.He didn’t start mentioning skin colour then.
He could’ve just kept his race baiting comments to himself.
He came out with it to try and imply a narrative.Not just read the news as he’s paid to.
People in general don’t want to hear that from supposedly unbiased broadcast shows.We get that in the Guardian and Daily Mail.
Shows like the Daily Politics and The Pledge have people with different opinions thrash it out with each other.
News broadcasters are usually supposed to just read the news.
Livia
01-04-2019, 04:19 PM
He's an awful champagne socialist and said it like it might be the wrong thing to see lots of white people in London... or in the UK in general. If it is true that he's never seen so many white people (and I doubt that, he was born in Sussex in 1949 before it was decided that this country should ashamed of just about everything), maybe there's a strength of feeling from white people who are tired of being singled out as the baddie and it's good to remind people that white people are allowed to congregate and stand up for themselves without apology to a hang-wringer like Snow.
Elliot
01-04-2019, 04:20 PM
So when they cover BLM marches do you hear ‘wow,I’ve never seen so many black people in one place’
Of course not.
There’s no reason to say it.
What was the context behind his weird statement?
What was he trying to imply?
He’s supposed to be a news reader.
Worst comparison I’ve ever read
Also are you implying that being pro bretix is a primarily white people thing or am I reading too much into it lololol
Livia
01-04-2019, 04:23 PM
Worst comparison I’ve ever read
Also are you implying that being pro bretix is a primarily white people thing or am I reading too much into it lololol
Did you read OP? That was the WHOLE point Jon Snow was making.
lololol
That’s hilarious. Have we really reached a point where white people are having to apologise for calling other white people “white people”?
As as for the racism overtones that people are no doubt complaining about, he was reporting on a protest that had Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage making veiled hate speeches so...
Northern Monkey
01-04-2019, 04:25 PM
Common sense has arrived.
Livia
01-04-2019, 04:27 PM
That’s hilarious. Have we really reached a point where white people are having to apologise for calling other white people “white people”?
As as for the racism overtones that people are no doubt complaining about, he was reporting on a protest that had Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage making veiled hate speeches so...
What point do you think Jon Snow was making then?
What point do you think Jon Snow was making then?
That there was a racist undertone to the march and as I said, with the honoured guests there, there’s no wonder really.
Twosugars
01-04-2019, 04:29 PM
That’s hilarious. Have we really reached a point where white people are having to apologise for calling other white people “white people”?
As as for the racism overtones that people are no doubt complaining about, he was reporting on a protest that had Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage making veiled hate speeches so...
:clap1:
Maybe if Leave campaign and Farage stop mingling with far right and spout their ideology then Snow won't have any reason to remark on the racial undertones.
That there was a racist undertone to the march and as I said, with the honoured guests there, there’s no wonder really.The two people you mentioned are not racist, and if you believe they are, then report them to the Police, because it's illegal.
Livia
01-04-2019, 04:32 PM
That there was a racist undertone to the march and as I said, with the honoured guests there, there’s no wonder really.
So let me get this straight. Because Robinson and Farage, two perfectly odious creatures, were there, the rest of the people in the march should be open to ridicule from a champagne socialist. Because they're white. I see.
They weren't "honoured guests" you just added that. They were speakers. I doubt many people on the march had a choice of speakers, whatever colour they were.
The two people you mentioned are not racist, and if you believe they are, then report them to the Police, because it's illegal.
Tommy Robinson has been arrested multiple times already so there’s no need for me to really is there?
So let me get this straight. Because Robinson and Farage, two perfectly odious creatures, were there, the rest of the people in the march should be open to ridicule from a champagne socialist. Because they're white. I see.
They weren't "honoured guests" you just added that. They were speakers. I doubt many people on the march had a choice of speakers, whatever colour they were.
Well I didn’t see them speaking at any remain events so not exactly a leap really is it? One of the main complaints from Leavers is immigration and foreign intervention in the UK. You can be defensive about the way you voted all you like but it doesn’t detract from the facts. Leaders voted the same way as some of the most vocally vile people on Earth. I’m not and wouldn’t say for a second that all Leavers are racist but there are a hell of a lot of racists who voted leave.
Tommy Robinson has been arrested multiple times already so there’s no need for me to really is there?Not for racism he hasn't. You claimed he was racist.
Scarlett.
01-04-2019, 04:47 PM
I'm sure he meant White Walkers, guys
Twosugars
01-04-2019, 04:47 PM
Tommy Robinson has been arrested multiple times already so there’s no need for me to really is there?
He even changed his name to appear folksy and one of the people :laugh3:
Not for racism he hasn't. You claimed he was racist.
Well it wasn’t for shoplifting.
Well it wasn’t for shoplifting.True, but it wasn't for racism either.
True, but it wasn't for racism either.
https://www.theweek.co.uk/99588/tommy-robinson-uses-racial-slurs-and-boasts-about-drug-use-in-bizarre-video
Livia
01-04-2019, 04:55 PM
Well I didn’t see them speaking at any remain events so not exactly a leap really is it? One of the main complaints from Leavers is immigration and foreign intervention in the UK. You can be defensive about the way you voted all you like but it doesn’t detract from the facts. Leaders voted the same way as some of the most vocally vile people on Earth. I’m not and wouldn’t say for a second that all Leavers are racist but there are a hell of a lot of racists who voted leave.
I am not defensive about the way I voted. I voted to leave, and the EU's open border policy was one of the reasons. Do you know what the population is in this country now? And what it might be in ten years?
I am for controlled immigration, if it wasn't for immigrants this country couldn't function. I'm the descendant of immigrants. What I am against is the EU's decision to let anyone in. Canada doesn't do it, neither does the US, nor Australia... they have a system based on what people can offer the country and I see now reason to think they're all racist. They have a proper system for admitting refugees too, just like we have.
There are vile people amongst those who voted to leave. There are vile people amongst those who voted to stay. This is not a black and white, they're racist and I'm not issue, it's much more complicated than that.
https://www.theweek.co.uk/99588/tommy-robinson-uses-racial-slurs-and-boasts-about-drug-use-in-bizarre-videoIt says that this is on video, is there any footage of this video? because I've never heard of this story before, and would like to see this for myself.
Northern Monkey
01-04-2019, 04:56 PM
Worst comparison I’ve ever read
Also are you implying that being pro bretix is a primarily white people thing or am I reading too much into it lololol
No Jon Snow seems to have done that.
I think the main issue people who complained would have had was hearing him make snidey comments to try and imply that having a group of mainly white people marching for Brexit is a negative thing.Inserting his predjudice into a news item.
Basically showing a remain bias.
People just don’t wanna listen to that when they watch news.
I wouldn’t have complained if i’d heard it.I’d have just laughed and thought ‘what a dick’ and forgotten about it.
Twosugars
01-04-2019, 05:02 PM
I am not defensive about the way I voted. I voted to leave, and the EU's open border policy was one of the reasons. Do you know what the population is in this country now? And what it might be in ten years?
I am for controlled immigration, if it wasn't for immigrants this country couldn't function. I'm the descendant of immigrants. What I am against is the EU's decision to let anyone in. Canada doesn't do it, neither does the US, nor Australia... they have a system based on what people can offer the country and I see now reason to think they're all racist. They have a proper system for admitting refugees too, just like we have.
There are vile people amongst those who voted to leave. There are vile people amongst those who voted to stay. This is not a black and white, they're racist and I'm not issue, it's much more complicated than that.
And what makes you think getting out of the EU will change things?
The non-EU immigrations has always been fully under British control and what? It has kept on increasing year on year.
Not to mention it's all very well getting out of the EU directives but how do you know the much praised free trade agreements won't depend on immigration exemptions for e.g India or China? India has been grumbling for years about the issue.
Northern Monkey
01-04-2019, 05:16 PM
And what makes you think getting out of the EU will change things?
The non-EU immigrations has always been fully under British control and what? It has kept on increasing year on year.
Not to mention it's all very well getting out of the EU directives but how do you know the much praised free trade agreements won't depend on immigration exemptions for e.g India or China? India has been grumbling for years about the issue.
True.But the point is,We can choose whether to accept those trade deals with individual countries and negotiate ourselves.We might decide that it’s beneficial to have FoM from a certain country.But it’s up to our government.
As a Single Market member we don’t have much choice on which countries we allow FoM to.
Some control vs hardly any control.
Twosugars
01-04-2019, 05:26 PM
True.But the point is,We can choose whether to accept those trade deals with individual countries and negotiate ourselves.We might decide that it’s beneficial to have FoM from a certain country.But it’s up to our government.
As a Single Market member we don’t have much choice on which countries we allow FoM to.
Some control vs hardly any control.
We won't have that much choice after sticking our bum at the EU.
Our negotiating position will be very poor.
That's where being in a block makes sense.
And how do you explain the UK government has been unable to control the non-EU immigration all these years? What gives you the confidence they'll be able to control it bc we left the EU?
Not to mention losing the freedom of working and living all over Europe.
EU immigration is only temporary anyway. As the Eastern European countries get richer and catch up with the West the movement will cease. It may even reverse. But Britain won't take advantage of that, sadly.
Northern Monkey
01-04-2019, 05:43 PM
We won't have that much choice after sticking our bum at the EU.
Our negotiating position will be very poor.
That's where being in a block makes sense.
And how do you explain the UK government has been unable to control the non-EU immigration all these years? What gives you the confidence they'll be able to control it bc we left the EU?
Not to mention losing the freedom of working and living all over Europe.
EU immigration is only temporary anyway. As the Eastern European countries get richer and catch up with the West the movement will cease. It may even reverse. But Britain won't take advantage of that, sadly.
I wouldn’t say our governments were UNABLE to control non-EU immigration but more unwilling.
The immigration issue only came to major prominence when the numbers had increased massively giving rise to the BNP.That’s when the government started listening as they were worried about the prospect of the far right gaining popularity(and wanted to gain public support).
Blair and Brown basically had an almost open door policy.
If it had have been sensibly controlled earlier on then it wouldn’t be such an issue today.
Twosugars
01-04-2019, 06:13 PM
I wouldn’t say our governments were UNABLE to control non-EU immigration but more unwilling.
The immigration issue only came to major prominence when the numbers had increased massively giving rise to the BNP.That’s when the government started listening as they were worried about the prospect of the far right gaining popularity(and wanted to gain public support).
Blair and Brown basically had an almost open door policy.
If it had have been sensibly controlled earlier on then it wouldn’t be such an issue today.
and yet nothing has improved since 2010 when the tories took over
why?
GoldHeart
01-04-2019, 06:18 PM
Tbh tho all the people at these sort of rally’s are white lol idk what’s wrong with pointing out a blatant fact. Guess it triggers the snowflakes skjskjs
Are they saying Jon Snow a WHITE man shouldn't point out other WHITE people??:conf:
were there white walkers in the crowd? Jon Snow would know about that better than anyone :shrug:
Northern Monkey
01-04-2019, 06:51 PM
and yet nothing has improved since 2010 when the tories took over
why?
Non EU immigration has always been higher than EU immigration.The world is much bigger than Eastern Europe.
Cameron did actually get it down for a while when it was his priority.The Tories then gave up on their tens of thousands target as it was unrealistic.
EU immigration went up to almost level pegging before the referendum.After that the Europeans started leaving.
Most leavers just want the country to be able to control all immigration.
EU migration may not actually go down but that would be up to our government.
I'm closing this for now to clean it.
I'm so sick of the same members constant trolling and baiting in this section so expect infractions and bans to be handed out if it continues.
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