If you go to the bog in a bar and come back to your drink being stolen.

[Beso]

I was out in london on saturday and was chatting to the bar man as I stood at the bar with my two cocktails...I left them right by him and told him I'm off to the bog...when I got back only one was left. ...I kicked up such a fuss and threatened to get the police if my drink wasn't replaced...they replaced it after a small argument....was I in the right...oh..and by the way, next time I went to the toilet I found my drink on a table at the bottom of the stairs..


So was I entitled to a replacement.

[Smithy]

No that’s dumb, don’t leave your drinks unattended, if you had been spiked would that have been the Barman’s fault too?

[Beso]

No that’s dumb, don’t leave your drinks unattended, if you had been spiked would that have been the Barman’s fault too?

What was I supposed to do, take them and sit them on the cistern why I whizzed...I don't think so...I left them on the bar with a nod at the barman..that should be enough.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What was I supposed to do, take them and sit them on the cistern why I whizzed...I don't think so...I left them on the bar with a nod at the barman..that should be enough.

I once left my drinks on the cistern as i wee'd


During the pee i tripped and my hand hit the cistern twice as i fell knocking both drinks over

It was a valuable life lesson

that you cant beat the cistern

[bots]

would you have left your wallet on the bar with a nod to the barman and expected it to be there when you got back?

is the barman expected to stop serving other customers and focus his attention on your drink?

[arista]

I was out in london on saturday and was chatting to the bar man as I stood at the bar with my two cocktails...I left them right by him and told him I'm off to the bog...when I got back only one was left. ...I kicked up such a fuss and threatened to get the police if my drink wasn't replaced...they replaced it after a small argument....was I in the right...oh..and by the way, next time I went to the toilet I found my drink on a table at the bottom of the stairs..


So was I entitled to a replacement.



Yes you are right to Kick Up a fuss
Sloppy pubs
need avoiding.

[thesheriff443]

Why did you have two cocktails and why are drinking cocktails, have you gone all dell boy?

[Smithy]

What was I supposed to do, take them and sit them on the cistern why I whizzed...I don't think so...I left them on the bar with a nod at the barman..that should be enough.

Were you drinking on your own? Why did you have two?

[Beso]

It was a two for one deal do of course I'm going to drink two..I was also bloated by pints by this time and with a bottle of fruit cider costing 1 pound more than 2 cocktails...I went for the cocktails..and yes i was alone and of course I wouldn't leave my wallet on the bar...or a table...or anywhere else it should be OK to leave a drink.

[Cherie]

on this occasion, I think you were lucky to get a replacement, if its a quiet bar and the person behind it agrees to look after your drink, fair enough, but even then they could be distracted, but in a busy bar leaving drinks unattended is asking for trouble, anyone could have put anything into them, so having one taken might have been the least of your problems :nono: next time go to the toilet before you invest in two cocktails.

[Cherie]

oh I have just realised I have mirrored what Smithy said, hope his posting style isn't rubbing off on me :omgno:

[arista]

It was a two for one deal do of course I'm going to drink two..I was also bloated by pints by this time and with a bottle of fruit cider costing 1 pound more than 2 cocktails...I went for the cocktails..and yes i was alone and of course I wouldn't leave my wallet on the bar...or a table...or anywhere else it should be OK to leave a drink.


How Nice

[thesheriff443]

Old school is, tell the barman to put these behind the bar for me as I’m going to the loo.

That way it’s clear what you want done and no one can take them, spike them.

[thesheriff443]

When I was out on the pull, if there was two girls together, I would ask do you come as a pair or can you be separated.

[Beso]

on this occasion, I think you were lucky to get a replacement, if its a quiet bar and the person behind it agrees to look after your drink, fair enough, but even then they could be distracted, but in a busy bar leaving drinks unattended is asking for trouble, anyone could have put anything into them, so having one taken might have been the least of your problems :nono: next time go to the toilet before you invest in two cocktails.

I'm at an age that when I need to go, I need to go...6 pints don't help either.

I got the drink replaced so i must have been in the right.

[Cherie]

Old school is, tell the barman to put these behind the bar for me as I’m going to the loo.

That way it’s clear what you want done and no one can take them, spike them.

That's probably the best plan, you really can't trust people these days

[Beso]

Old school is, tell the barman to put these behind the bar for me as I’m going to the loo.

That way it’s clear what you want done and no one can take them, spike them.

The nod should be enough.

[thesheriff443]

The nod should be enough.

I’m afraid not.

[Livia]

Always spit in your own drink Parmy, that way if it gets nicked, at least you have the satisfaction of knowing some dick is drinking your drink with spit in it :)

[thesheriff443]

Always spit in your own drink Parmy, that way if it gets nicked, at least you have the satisfaction of knowing some dick is drinking your drink with spit in it :)

That just sounds erotic.

[Niamh.]

Absolutely not. That's not a bar persons job to watch peoples drinks

[thesheriff443]

That's probably the best plan, you really can't trust people these days

I would say people having to much drink are more dangerous to themselves that other people doing them harm.

[thesheriff443]

Absolutely not. That's not a bar persons job to watch peoples drinks

It’s not but a bar person has to put up with more crap than keeping an eye on a drink for two shakes of a dick.

[Beso]

Absolutely not. That's not a bar persons job to watch peoples drinks

Is it there job to check cctv and phone the police if something gets stolen?

[Beso]

I’m afraid not.

Call yourself old school!!!

[Livia]

That just sounds erotic.

If I was going to expect that from anyone on here Sheriff, it would have been you...

[Beso]

I know someone who rubs thier bell end on the rim.

[Livia]

I know someone who rubs thier bell end on the rim.

Sheriff....?

[thesheriff443]

Call yourself old school!!!

I’m not much younger than you, plus bar staff these days are barley legal to be behind a bar.

Times have changed.

[user104658]

I was out in london on saturday and was chatting to the bar man as I stood at the bar with my two cocktails...I left them right by him and told him I'm off to the bog...when I got back only one was left. ...I kicked up such a fuss and threatened to get the police if my drink wasn't replaced...they replaced it after a small argument....was I in the right...oh..and by the way, next time I went to the toilet I found my drink on a table at the bottom of the stairs..


So was I intitled to a replacement.

Once you've bought and paid for it it's your property and thus your responsibility Parm... it's not up to the staff to guard it.

Similar situation for me is when people leave money sat in a machine then piss off outside for a cigarette, and then kick off when someone has walked out with their money :shrug:.

[Beso]

Chuff is a delight..and she can take a joke.


I think I did rather well then to get it replaced...and then drink the other one when i found it when i went for yet another piss.

[Marsh.]

Annoyed me when I went to the loo and my remaining half a pint had been swiped by the idiot glass collector.

[chuff me dizzy]

Chuff is a delight..and she can take a joke.


I think I did rather well then to get it replaced...and then drink the other one when i found it when i went for yet another piss.

Yes I reckon you did well

[joeysteele]

Always spit in your own drink Parmy, that way if it gets nicked, at least you have the satisfaction of knowing some dick is drinking your drink with spit in it :)

:joker:oh that's a great one.

Really made me laugh thinking of that.

[Denver]

Imagine threatening to call the police over a drink

[Saph]

no everyone knows its a rule that if you find a drink at the bar with no owner you grab it and run

I used to go to the cloakroom and take other peoples drinks while they were outside :skull: im so lucky ive never had a spiked drink lmao

[Amy Jade]

You'd have probably gotten in more trouble for bothering the police over something so trivial

[Crimson Dynamo]

imagine leaving a drink undrunk?


:worry:

[Beso]

Imagine threatening to call the police over a drink

Imagine stealing someone's drink....pretty low and desperate...earn ya own money ya thieving tests.

[Beso]

You'd have probably gotten in more trouble for bothering the police over something so trivial

Crime is crime...I would sue them if they ridiculed me.

[Smithy]

Well I guess the overwhelming forum consensus is that you are wrong I’m afraid parmnion

[armand.kay]

it's just a drink?

[Beso]

Well I guess the overwhelming forum consensus is that you are wrong I’m afraid parmnion

Am I though, considering they made me another for free?

[Beso]

it's just a drink?

A drink that cost me 10 quid...the other one was the one I wanted as my free second one.


Just think about it...you could actually go out and get pissed for free at the expense of honest people....well not this one I'm afraid, this one will stop a pub in its tracks if he loses his over priced drink.

[bots]

Am I though, considering they made me another for free?


If i'm a regular in a bar, i would get another for free without asking, but if you are a stranger, the only reason they would replace your drink is to shut you up, and that could easily have gone the other way and you would have been thrown out.

[Beso]

Once you've bought and paid for it it's your property and thus your responsibility Parm... it's not up to the staff to guard it.

Similar situation for me is when people leave money sat in a machine then piss off outside for a cigarette, and then kick off when someone has walked out with their money :shrug:.

It's up to me to report it to the police if it's stolen then.....which is also when they buckled and agreed with me and started making my new one.

[Beso]

If i'm a regular in a bar, i would get another for free without asking, but if you are a stranger, the only reason they would replace your drink is to shut you up, and that could easily have gone the other way and you would have been thrown out.

I'm far far to charming in an argument for that to even come close to happening..:nono:

They poured it not to shut me up but to save face cause they knew I was right.

[Cherie]

10 quid D: was it a fishbowl?

[Cherie]

Chuff is a delight..and she can take a joke.


I think I did rather well then to get it replaced...and then drink the other one when i found it when i went for yet another piss.

so you found the stolen drink :suspect:

[Marsh.]

Cluedo - The Case of the Missing Drink

Cherie in the lounge, wearing a red dress with a sex on the beach.

[Beso]

so you found the stolen drink :suspect:

Yes...obviously the perp saw me complaining and thought better off it so he laid it somewhere before slinking out the door.

The police were seconds away from being summoned.

[Livia]

What was the cocktail Parm, I need to know.

[Cherie]

Cluedo - The Case of the Missing Drink

Cherie in the lounge, wearing a red dress with a sex on the beach.

:joker:

[Cherie]

Yes...obviously the perp saw me complaining and thought better off it so he laid it somewhere before slinking out the door.

The police were seconds away from being summoned.

should think so too at 10.00 a pop

[Beso]

What was the cocktail Parm, I need to know.

A traffic light thing..Green at the bottom etc...the red was ice...it was in Shoreditch so had a stupid name to it.

[Beso]

should think so too at 10.00 a pop

That was my whole argument..I'm sure I had my wallet out showing them how empty it was at one point.

[Livia]

A traffic light thing..Green at the bottom etc...the red was ice...it was in Shoreditch so had a stupid name to it.

Shoreditch, eh? Don't you have to have a neatly pruned beard and a topknot to drink there these days?

[Beso]

Shoreditch, eh? Don't you have to have a neatly pruned beard and a topknot to drink there these days?

:joker:

I had skinny jeans and plimsolls on..I strode in with giant steps so they would see the bottom half first..

[Jake.]

It’s not the barmans job to look after your drink as much as it would be for him to keep watch of your phone or car keys. You took the risk, your mistake.

[DouglasS]

Completely your own fault. The barman’s priority is to serve other customers he can’t neglect doing that to watch your drink. While he’s serving other customers and it gets taken it’s your own doing. Lucky you got another one, you probably got one because you were more of a bother to him to not replace it in all honesty. Hopefully youll learn from this

[Tom4784]

If I was the barman I would have laughed in your face.

It's your responsibility to keep an eye on your drink, if you leave a drink unattended then it being stolen is the least of your worries. Either take it with you or leave it with someone you can trust.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Parmy got a free drink so

winning

[Tom4784]

Parmy got a free drink so

winning

Blaming someone who's just trying to earn a living and threatening the police on them for his own incompetence is the farthest thing from winning.

[Matthew.]

Well that’s you told

[Beso]

If I was the barman I would have laughed in your face.

It's your responsibility to keep an eye on your drink, if you leave a drink unattended then it being stolen is the least of your worries. Either take it with you or leave it with someone you can trust.

He tried the laughing in my face, that is what irked me to begin with.

[Beso]

Blaming someone who's just trying to earn a living and threatening the police on them for his own incompetence is the farthest thing from winning.

It was the owner I spoke to..not the hapless barman.

I almost held my smirk in when he was getting a severe telling off.

[Beso]

And I did say I was spending time chatting to the barman before going to the toilet...the place wasn't that busy either.

[Mokka]

Am I though, considering they made me another for free?

So you stomped around and yelled and made a scene until they gave you a drink to shut you up... doesnt make you right.

Imagine stealing someone's drink....pretty low and desperate...earn ya own money ya thieving tests.

This is what you did to the establishment you were at. You were responsible for your own possession of your drinks... you made a choice and it was the wrong one so you lost a drink... but instead of owning your mistake you passed it onto someone else making it their loss instead of yours.

You sound all proud and smug about it here in this thread... but you really shouldn't be.

[Beso]

So you stomped around and yelled and made a scene until they gave you a drink to shut you up... doesnt make you right.



This is what you did to the establishment you were at. You were responsible for your own possession of your drinks... you made a choice and it was the wrong one so you lost a drink... but instead of owning your mistake you passed it onto someone else making it their loss instead of yours.

You sound all proud and smug about it here in this thread... but you really shouldn't be.




If they had explained that in the manner you did then I would have accepted that but they didn't. ..they ignored me point blank and I'm the customer. Ten pound a pop as Cherie puts it so well...you don't expect that in such an establishment...which I told them..mid stomp.



Edit, I also had the 2nd cocktail that wasn't shutting me up so I doubt another one would have.

[Beso]

What if someone stole your purse in a supermarket?

[AnnieK]

What if someone stole your purse in a supermarket?

If I left it unattended I would curse myself for being a fool tbh Parm. When I worked in bars I wouldn't have given you a free drink for what happened and if the manager had and undermined my decision I would have quit. Not my job to watch your drinks

[Mokka]

What if someone stole your purse in a supermarket?

I don't leave my purse unattended at the supermarket... if I did and it was stolen... I wouldn't blame the operator/manager. I'm an adult and as such I take responsibility for my own actions.

[Beso]

If I left it unattended I would curse myself for being a fool tbh Parm. When I worked in bars I wouldn't have given you a free drink for what happened and if the manager had and undermined my decision I would have quit. Not my job to watch your drinks

Ive been a barman as well...


What if you had spent the last ten minutes laughing and joking about cocktails in your bar that wasn't that busy and the customer nods to the drinks he has carefully placed next to the pump where you had been standing chatting mouthing am going to the toilet as he stared you in the eye.....would you nod and mouth ok..like he did..



Cause if that was me that was me taking responsibility for his drinks.

[Beso]

I don't leave my purse unattended at the supermarket... if I did and it was stolen... I wouldn't blame the operator/manager. I'm an adult and as such I take responsibility for my own actions.

Wouldn't you request the manager looks at cctv and you perhaps call the police?

[Marsh.]

Wouldn't you request the manager looks at cctv and you perhaps call the police?

That's asking then for assistance, not blaming them though.

[Beso]

That's asking then for assistance, not blaming them though.

Fair point.

In my eyes the barman had taken responsibility with his nod.

[AnnieK]

Fair point.

In my eyes the barman had taken responsibility with his nod.

But his main responsibility is to serve drinks. How would you feel if a barman said "sorry mate, you'll have to wait to be served till some dude I dont know finishes in the bathroom as I've got to watch his drinks?"

All it takes is to go to serve someone else and someone could swipe your drink.

Sorry Parm, I don't agree with you on this. The moral is.....go before you buy or take your drinks with you, for me at least

[Tom4784]

It was the owner I spoke to..not the hapless barman.

I almost held my smirk in when he was getting a severe telling off.

You smirked at someone getting yelled at for doing their job because you were foolish enough to leave your drink alone? It was your ****up and you should be glad that the drink was gone and not spiked. You can't blame someone else for your incompetence regarding your own personal safety. The barman is not your nanny and the fact that you stood there grinning at him when he was getting yelled at for your ****ups says more about you then it does about him.

[Beso]

But his main responsibility is to serve drinks. How would you feel if a barman said "sorry mate, you'll have to wait to be served till some dude I dont know finishes in the bathroom as I've got to watch his drinks?"

All it takes is to go to serve someone else and someone could swipe your drink.

Sorry Parm, I don't agree with you on this. The moral is.....go before you buy or take your drinks with you, for me at least



A skilled barman in the same circumstances could easily do both.

[Beso]

You smirked at someone getting yelled at for doing their job because you were foolish enough to leave your drink alone? It was your ****up and you should be glad that the drink was gone and not spiked. You can't blame someone else for your incompetence regarding your own personal safety. The barman is not your nanny and the fact that you stood there grinning at him when he was getting yelled at for your ****ups says more about you then it does about him.




He couldn't see me smirk..the big dude was in front of him..and he laughed with me later..in fact they both did...and they both saw my point in the end...because they had a touch of class.

[AnnieK]

A skilled barman in the same circumstances could easily do both.

We shall have to agree to disagree. A barman on no doubt minimum wage should not be watching your drink end of in my eyes.

[user104658]

To be fair if he did say he would watch the drink and then it got swiped I get where you're coming from Parm. However as a manager I'd say that the barman's mistake was agreeing to watch the drink in the first place, rather than failing to do so. Once the transaction is complete the purchase is your property and your responsibility. He should have told you that to begin with. Since he did say he would watch it and it went missing I'd say he should have replaced it as a courtesy but tbh the problem here might be management, as the bar staff might not have a discretionary budget and giving away a free drink would be considered staff theft and thus misconduct. The other option would be paying out of his own pocket, but there's a good chance that buying a customer a drink is also misconduct.

[Tom4784]

He couldn't see me smirk..the big dude was in front of him..and he laughed with me later..in fact they both did...and they both saw my point in the end...because they had a touch of class.

No, more likely that they were both being polite and that barman probably can't tolerate you. Have you ever worked in retail or the service industry? I'm guessing not since you would do something like this and think that the people serving you are happy to be blamed for your mistakes.

That barman and probably the manager too are likely resisting the urge to spit in your drink for kicking up a fuss when it's your own damn fault. Believe me, they are only being friendly to you because it's their job, I can guarantee that after pulling a stunt like that, you'll pretty much be a joke to the staff.

People who work in retail and the service industry always remember a troublesome customer.

[user104658]

If I had to give an honest assessment of what I'd do;

When I was bar staff back in my Uni days I'd have given you a replacement and put down the original as spillage.

As a manager I'd be an immoral ****er as managers are; if you were "a good customer" spending dollah and I thought there was a good chance you would walk out in a huff and not spend any more money then I'd replace the drink. If you didn't have more money to spend I'd tell you to piss off. :umm2:

[Mokka]

What the bar staff really thought of this situation

https://media.giphy.com/media/FyAcL2wSiaWJy/giphy.gif

[AnnieK]

Ive been a barman as well...


What if you had spent the last ten minutes laughing and joking about cocktails in your bar that wasn't that busy and the customer nods to the drinks he has carefully placed next to the pump where you had been standing chatting mouthing am going to the toilet as he stared you in the eye.....would you nod and mouth ok..like he did..



Cause if that was me that was me taking responsibility for his drinks.

Just re-reading this. Did you actually ask him specifically to watch your drinks or did you just say you were going to the toilet?

[Beso]

No, more likely that they were both being polite and that barman probably can't tolerate you. Have you ever worked in retail or the service industry? I'm guessing not since you would do something like this and think that the people serving you are happy to be blamed for your mistakes.

That barman and probably the manager too are likely resisting the urge to spit in your drink for kicking up a fuss when it's your own damn fault. Believe me, they are only being friendly to you because it's their job, I can guarantee that after pulling a stunt like that, you'll pretty much be a joke to the staff.

People who work in retail and the service industry always remember a troublesome customer.

Yes I have stated I have worked as a barman on many occasions..I would instantly deliver another drink free of charge to a customer who complained in the same circumstances..and take whatever consequences came my way..I doubt any would though...I'm not to sure what type of establishments you are used to or what sort of judge of character you think you may be...you simply were not there so have no idea of body language or the way I had thier faces beeming with enjoyment before I left....

Now that is how a master minesweeper minesweeps...he sweeps from the bar rather than the customer...leaving everyone happy as he goes...they even allowed me the one I found as well.

I'm a charmer really.

[Beso]

Just re-reading this. Did you actually ask him specifically to watch your drinks or did you just say you were going to the toilet?

I nodded and said I'm going to the toilet as I looked him in the eye.. nodding at my drinks as I pushed them towards him sort of alongside the pump he was leaning on..he nodded back..nobody else at the bar...I had just parted with ten quid for the cocktail deal and had been the only person at the bar drinking a vodka and coke for ten minutes chatting away to both the owner or bar manager and the barman.

[Beso]

He watched the vodka and coke when I went for a fag cause it was still there when I came back.

[Tom4784]

Yes I have stated I have worked as a barman on many occasions..I would instantly deliver another drink free of charge to a customer who complained in the same circumstances..and take whatever consequences came my way..I doubt any would though...I'm not to sure what type of establishments you are used to or what sort of judge of character you think you may be...you simply were not there so have no idea of body language or the way I had thier faces beeming with enjoyment before I left....

Now that is how a master minesweeper minesweeps...he sweeps from the bar rather than the customer...leaving everyone happy as he goes...they even allowed me the one I found as well.

I'm a charmer really.

I don't believe you. Ain't nobody that's spent any time in the service or retail industry will ever think that a bad customer is in the right, they were placating you, nothing more nothing less and if you had any experience like you claimed, you would have known that.

Good customer service is hating someone's guts and them not knowing it because you were all smiles and rainbows with them. Chances are when that barman sees you enter the pub in future, he'll have to suppress the urge to roll his eyes and sigh.

Nobody likes a difficult customer that takes joy in humiliating the staff for the customer's own lack of judgement. If everything is as you described then I can guarantee that the barman in question probably hates you.

[Beso]

I don't believe you. Ain't nobody that's spent any time in the service or retail industry will ever think that a bad customer is in the right, they were placating you, nothing more nothing less and if you had any experience like you claimed, you would have known that.

Good customer service is hating someone's guts and them not knowing it because you were all smiles and rainbows with them. Chances are when that barman sees you enter the pub in future, he'll have to suppress the urge to roll his eyes and sigh.

Nobody likes a difficult customer that takes joy in humiliating the staff for the customer's own lack of judgement. If everything is as you described then I can guarantee that the barman in question probably hates you.



If he had hated me he would have summoned the 2 bouncers I had been chatting to whilst smoking my cigarette during my earlier vodka and coke...like I said, you simply were.not there....look up cheers bar kelso...I'm probably in the photos..


Or msg princess anne cause I've served her, or michael Aspel, you can ask him if I spat in his carrots like you would you dirty bugger.

[user104658]

Tbh if you have a customer that repeatedly makes a scene, good customer service is getting rid of that customer for the sake of all of your other customers. I can all but guarantee that adopting this policy will increase overall turnover. Even if its counter-intuitive (I.e. Banning a very profitable customer)

[Tom4784]

If he had hated me he would have summoned the 2 bouncers I had been chatting to whilst smoking my cigarette during my earlier vodka and coke...like I said, you simply were.not there....look up cheers bar kelso...I'm probably in the photos..


Or msg princess anne cause I've served her, or michael Aspel, you can ask him if I spat in his carrots like you would you dirty bugger.

He wouldn't have a reason to throw you out, judging from what you've said and if you had actually worked as a barman, you'd know that you can't throw out customers for no good reason.

You are lying about your experiences, you have only experienced the service industry from the perspective of a customer and it shows. You have no empathy with the staff at all and that wouldn't likely be the case at all if you had been in their shoes at some point.

[Beso]

Tbh if you have a customer that repeatedly makes a scene, good customer service is getting rid of that customer for the sake of all of your other customers. I can all but guarantee that adopting this policy will increase overall turnover. Even if its counter-intuitive (I.e. Banning a very profitable customer)

I don't make a habit of it, but I felt I needed to stand my ground because of the price. I wasn't ranting and stomping like a kid..I was calm and charming, but very very firm and adamant. .

[Beso]

He wouldn't have a reason to throw you out, judging from what you've said and if you had actually worked as a barman, you'd know that you can't throw out customers for no good reason.

You are lying about your experiences, you have only experienced the service industry from the perspective of a customer and it shows. You have no empathy with the staff at all and that wouldn't likely be the case at all if you had been in their shoes at some point.


Ive worked in the busiest bar at anyone time in scotland...and that is the royal Highland show...look up the bar and sit back down.

[user104658]

He wouldn't have a reason to throw you out, judging from what you've said and if you had actually worked as a barman, you'd know that you can't throw out customers for no good reason.



Actually you can refuse service to anyone for any reason and ask them to leave, if it's a licenced premises (such as a bar or bookmaker, yaaay technicalities). It's not like standard retail because it falls under licencing laws and, thus, is never considered a public place. It is always a private establishment and can legally refuse entry (or eject customers) on staff discretion. You literally don't even have to give a reason. "Get out, because I'm telling you to get out" is perfectly valid.

[Beso]

Cheers bar owned by the bearded ninja, who just happened to run the quickest time ever in the heats of ninja 2 Saturdays ago..my dear friend at the time of working along side him in the bar.. his dad the owner at the time was a closer friend of mine...he would have scolded me badly for NOT handing out the drink if someone complained in the same circumstances.....and that's what the barman was being told of for.

[Tom4784]

Ive worked in the busiest bar at anyone time in scotland...and that is the royal Highland show...look up the bar and sit back down.

That doesn't really prove anything.

[Tom4784]

Actually you can refuse service to anyone for any reason and ask them to leave, if it's a licenced premises (such as a bar or bookmaker, yaaay technicalities). It's not like standard retail because it falls under licencing laws and, thus, is never considered a public place. It is always a private establishment and can legally refuse entry (or eject customers) on staff discretion. You literally don't even have to give a reason. "Get out, because I'm telling you to get out" is perfectly valid.

Maybe if you're in charge but a manager won't appreciate you turfing people out for no good reason.

[Beso]

https://representcomms.co.uk/new-bar-line-unveiled-2016-royal-highland-show/


Look we get a mention in a news article about them adding more bars at the show in 2016...now I've mentioned the Highland show...cheers bars.....the princess royal...and the fact I have served her as a barman.....


I've mentioned the owner, his son...a pointer to what his son is doing nowadays....so without posting actual names and dates I worked there ain't much else I can do.....


But of course, you are coming across like the be all and end all of things you know nothing about when it comes to me, I enjoy it....I enjoy you being so wrong.....pity you, like the hapless barman can not see me smirking.

[user104658]

Maybe if you're in charge but a manager won't appreciate you turfing people out for no good reason.That depends on how deeply apathetic that manager has become towards the business ... :umm2:

[Amy Jade]

I feel bad that you were smirking that he got told off. Poor guy he must have felt like crap

[Beso]

I feel bad that you were smirking that he got told off. Poor guy he must have felt like crap

I smirk when I'm nervous inside for someone else sometimes..maybe it was more that than the smugness I felt at actually winning in a pub in london..but I bloody won.

Usually when I'm out I just smirk at the barmen or women when she gives me the price of the smirnoff and coke they have just poured me...this was a nice change for me.


I'm bloody annoyed nobody has actually mentioned the thief/student.

[user104658]

I'm bloody annoyed nobody has actually mentioned the thief/student.

Parm that's because everyone knows you actually took your drink to the toilet and forgot, thought it was stolen, then found it sitting on another table where you left it in the first place :suspect:

[Beso]

Why would I buy 2 drinks for the price of one (ten quid) go to the toilet straight after they were made and only take one with me?


It does sound like that's what happened but that's not how it happened...fair enough if I hadn't been talking to the barstaff i would have turned with both in my hands...but in was talking to them so wouldn't go to the toilet with one and leave one on the bar.

[SherzyK]

Poor barman :bored:

[Beso]

Poor barman :bored:

Exactly, not very good at all..he had good banter though

[Beso]

I also at the tender age of 17 worked in a French restaurant in Claygate surrey called les allouettes with a guy called alyn Williams for 6 months...you can find him at alynn Williams at the Westbury in Mayfair london...I can get you a table if you want dezzy as I'm still in touch with him and treated my mother to his taster menu last year...he doesn't permit spitting and neither did our boss way back in 1987....That's where I met michael a spell and his carrots.

[bots]

life is honestly too short to be getting upset at losing a drink

[Beso]

life is honestly too short to be getting upset at losing a drink

It really isn't when you feel like london rips you off everytime you go out..


I stood up for myself and something I believe should happen all the time if your drink is stolen in a pubs premises and actually managed to talk them round to.my way of thinking...they could easily have thrown me out and have more people suffer at the hands of the pathetic thief, but even in london, and even with all those other customers they would get that day and night they didn't. ...because at the time that's what the three of us had to deal with at that exact moment of our 70-80 years of life...which isn't exactly that short, or not short enough that things like this should not be dealt with in the ten minutes of your life you are living in at the moment....ten minutes of your 70 to 80 years of life that were not wasted but in fact used to lift me, make me happy and has helped aid me into thinking london bar staff can sometimes be good and realistic...to me that wasn't wasted, seeing as I won and it only took ten minutes....



Coming on tibb day after day after day however for almost ten years now should be addressed a lot more than the ten minutes I took to make myself happy.

[Vanessa]

If I'm out for a drink I don't leave my drink unattended. You never know what someone could put in it. D:

[Marsh.]

He watched the vodka and coke when I went for a fag cause it was still there when I came back.

I thought it was 2 cocktails?

[Cherie]

I thought it was 2 cocktails?

oh do keep up Marsh, the vodka and coke was pre cocktails :oh:

I worry for Parmy digestion, has he visited the 'how do you wipe your arse thread' :worry:

[Cherie]

If I'm out for a drink I don't leave my drink unattended. You never know what someone could put in it. D:

apart from that I would worry someone would spit in it just for a laugh or something :oh:

[Marsh.]

oh do keep up Marsh, the vodka and coke was pre cocktails :oh:

Now listen the first line says he left 2 cocktails with the barman. :nono: I got confused.


I worry for Parmy digestion, has he visited the 'how do you wipe your arse thread' :worry:

:joker:

[caprimint]

Maybe if you're in charge but a manager won't appreciate you turfing people out for no good reason.
They don't care if it's one person because they're still gonna get loads of different people in there every day, especially in an area like Shoreditch, it's not like it's a local or something

[Marsh.]

They don't care if it's one person because they're still gonna get loads of different people in there every day, especially in an area like Shoreditch, it's not like it's a local or something

Yeah but they're not likely to look on it favourably if you're turfing paying customers out for no reason. I imagine most staff have a reason.

[Beso]

My new avi...my mum when I took her to my old friend alyn Williams restaurant in Mayfair, alyn Williams at the Westbury.


No spit involved.

[Marsh.]

Looks a lovely lady.

[Cherie]

Naw Parm what a softy :love:

[Beso]

Naw Parm what a softy :love:

She enjoyed her extra desert alyn brought out for her as well Cherie.:blush:

[armand.kay]

A drink that cost me 10 quid...the other one was the one I wanted as my free second one.


Just think about it...you could actually go out and get pissed for free at the expense of honest people....well not this one I'm afraid, this one will stop a pub in its tracks if he loses his over priced drink.

You spent £10 and just left it unattended? Worms in your brain?

[Beso]

You spent £10 and just left it unattended? Worms in your brain?

It wasn't unattended, and I was the only person at the bar (apart from the manager and barman)when I went for a pee...now I remember I was only talking to the bar manager whilst having my vodka and coke...I then asked him to mind my drink while in popped out for a ciggie...he said you can take it with you..so I did...and had a good chat with the bouncers who introduced me to the cocktail offer....

So I finished my ciggie and walked in, downed the vodka and coke, and asked the "new" just starting his shift, along side the bar manager, barman what the offer was all about....

we laughed and joked etc etc.....then I picked what I wanted...plenty time for all this cause I was still the only person at the bar and the bar manager was serving a normal looking couple with slightly less charm and banter he had instantly given me.


So he poured I nodded he nodded I spoke as I nodded and he rather quetly admittedly, mouthed the words ok as I departed for my forced, by my ever weakening bladdered piss..


Came back up and there was about 4 more people at the bar and one less drink...1 ignorant barman, 1 bar manager pretending our friendly banter counted for nothing and me....dissapointed in them, me.

[Glenn.]

5 pages of this. Really?

I thought it was an unspoken rule that you don’t leave drinks unattended in bars etc?

[Vicky.]

But his main responsibility is to serve drinks. How would you feel if a barman said "sorry mate, you'll have to wait to be served till some dude I dont know finishes in the bathroom as I've got to watch his drinks?"

All it takes is to go to serve someone else and someone could swipe your drink.

Sorry Parm, I don't agree with you on this. The moral is.....go before you buy or take your drinks with you, for me at least

Agree with this.

I also think if the bar was dead as it seems, rather than a nod you should just have..asked the barman if it was ok to leave your drinks. He would probably have put them beind the bar incase he was distracted, then gave them back when you came back. Problem solved. I was asked this kind of thing regularly, and it was never an issue plus the customers (usually women, men just randomly left drinks and went for wanders, where women were more careful for obvious reasons..) knew everything was fine.

---

As for being able to just replace, or just chuck someone out or whatever..

It really depends. I have worked in very busy bar/nightclubs and also 'little old man' bars which were frequented by the same few drinkers day after day, and everything inbetween tbh. The clubs we would have been able to chuck anyone out for no reason, also would have been technically able to just replace drinks for randomers to avoid scenes and write down as spillage but we would have been fired for doing so if caught, would have been able to replace drinks to regular customers who moaned though as we had a little discretion with those who spent enough cash. Very quiet places, there was hell on for chucking people out regardless of reasons..even when one guy sat and pissed himself all over the bar seat..apparently I was too harsh for telling him to go home, I didn't even bar him which I really wanted to given I had to clean his mess up..but even throwing him out was wrong apparently :rolleyes: In those bars, if a customer kicked up a fuss we would mainly be told to just replace too given it was literally the same like..8 men on rotation each day. Middle ones though, no replacements ever. And awkward customers were just chucked, no questions asked. As there was a steady enough stream of customers to replace and as TS said, generally getting rid of someone who causes a fuss will increase your take, not reduce it. Spillage was also very closely monitored there..like, they used to watch back random shifts just to make sure that nothing was being written as waste that wasn't :laugh:

[arista]

Yes Vicky
if he can not get up and go to the bog
you were right to throw him out.

Not a Nice job
to clean up.

Well done to you.

[Liam-]

If I paid 10 quid for a drink I’d be cradling that thing like a mother with a newborn

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not that I ever go to bars but £10 for a 1/6 of a gill?

away and chase yersel

[Livia]

Not that I ever go to bars but £10 for a 1/6 of a gill?

away and chase yersel

Up where you are though, isn't a lager and lime considered a cocktail?

[caprimint]

If he paid £10 for two cocktails (2-4-1 offer) then it's a BARGAIN

[Livia]

Hmmm... two proper Long Island Iced Teas for a tenner would be a bargain.

[Vicky.]

God I remember when the bar near us used to do cocktails for 3 quid, and on tuesdays had buy one get one free. Don't remember many tuesdays mind due to this, but remember the prices!

[caprimint]

Hmmm... two proper Long Island Iced Teas for a tenner would be a bargain.
Pina coladas ALL DAY LONG >>>>

I like mojitos too but I only ever order pina colada, it's actually my favourite drink of all time:drool:

[caprimint]

I saw a bar in Camden doing £3 for a cocktail, which is amazing for London but especially Camden cus it's rly busy like every day of the week and you get loads of tourists there

[chuff me dizzy]

Up where you are though, isn't a lager and lime considered a cocktail?

my fav tipple

[Beso]

I saw a bar in Camden doing £3 for a cocktail, which is amazing for London but especially Camden cus it's rly busy like every day of the week and you get loads of tourists there

Sounds like I would be happy for one of them to be stolen....3 quid! !! Bet there ain't much love put into.pouring them...a

[Livia]

Pina coladas ALL DAY LONG >>>>

I like mojitos too but I only ever order pina colada, it's actually my favourite drink of all time:drool:

Oh yes, pina colada is lovely... that's my kind of alcoholic drink, one that tasted like it's non-alcoholic.

[caprimint]

Oh yes, pina colada is lovely... that's my kind of alcoholic drink, one that tasted like it's non-alcoholic.
Same :laugh: I don't like the taste of most alcohol (beer, spirits, wine), so anything not too strong or fruity is good for me.

[Livia]

Same :laugh: I don't like the taste of most alcohol (beer, spirits, wine), so anything not too strong or fruity is good for me.

Yeah, we like drinks that make it feel like we're getting a couple of our five a day, and let's not worry too much about the alcohol....

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't like the taste of most alcohol .


https://media.giphy.com/media/11a8FLrVeoLnna/giphy.gif

[Vanessa]

I don't drink alcohol either.

[AnnieK]

I've been making my own wine for around a year now....its actually really nice if you've got the right gear, keep the right temp and buy the more expensive kits. Just got a cheeky shiraz fermenting at the mo. Works out so much cheaper but you got to have the willpower to not go mad when you have 30 bottles ready to drink.

[Kazanne]

I've been making my own wine for around a year now....its actually really nice if you've got the right gear, keep the right temp and buy the more expensive kits. Just got a cheeky shiraz fermenting at the mo. Works out so much cheaper but you got to have the willpower to not go mad when you have 30 bottles ready to drink.

I'de love to do that Annie,I just haven't got time, do you make all different kinds ? We tried beer once and it was a right disaster,lol.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I get a lot of wine from auctions. My last 30 bottles worked put at around 3 quid a bottle and this was 20- 30 quid a bottle 2o years ago wine than now tastes amazing

[Redway]

Who leaves drinks unattended in this day and age?

[Beso]

I've been making my own wine for around a year now....its actually really nice if you've got the right gear, keep the right temp and buy the more expensive kits. Just got a cheeky shiraz fermenting at the mo. Works out so much cheaper but you got to have the willpower to not go mad when you have 30 bottles ready to drink.

Remindes me off the time I was up looking after my little sisters house while she was on holiday..the cat needed fed....she was in one of those wine clubs....omg the things I was doing 4 bottles down at half five in the morning....like pernod....wine very very rarely gets touched these days.

[AnnieK]

I'de love to do that Annie,I just haven't got time, do you make all different kinds ? We tried beer once and it was a right disaster,lol.

Have only done reds so far....rioja, merlot and shiraz. Am going to try a fruit cider though for summer.

Its dangerous though, the first time I did it I honestly thought I'd done something wrong as I didn't think it tasted alcoholic, till I woke up the next day, still fully clothed, on the couch with a terrible headache :laugh:

[armand.kay]

If he paid £10 for two cocktails (2-4-1 offer) then it's a BARGAIN

£10 for a voddy and cranberry? Even if I was out in soho I would be shook like huh?

[caprimint]

£10 for a voddy and cranberry? Even if I was out in soho I would be shook like huh?
Is that a cocktail? Cocktails are always expensive, in the majority of places it's like £8 just for one if there's not an offer on or it's not during happy hour.

[Beso]

Can I push for seven pages just to piss Glenn off.

[Glenn.]

Whatever it takes to get your kicks I guess


Edit: the irony of my post kicking it to page 7 is wonderful

[caprimint]

Can I push for seven pages just to piss Glenn off.
:joker:

[Mokka]

Whatever it takes to get your kicks I guess


Edit: the irony of my post kicking it to page 7 is wonderful

Way to go Glenn :amazed:
You did that!!

[Livia]

This thread has the potential to become my favourite of 2019.

[Beso]

This thread has the potential to become my favourite of 2019.

:dance:


Another win for me....

PS, thank you Glenn. :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

If we can get 7 pages out of parmy scamming a drink why cant MAY deliver Brexit?????????

[Beso]

If we can get 7 pages out of parmy scamming a drink why cant MAY deliver Brexit?????????


How very dare you..:nono::joker:

[Livia]

If we can get 7 pages out of parmy scamming a drink why cant MAY deliver Brexit?????????

Parmy for No 10.

At least we know he couldn't do any worse....

[GoldHeart]

Pretty dumb to leave the drink on the bar expecting a barman who's serving customers to watch it :crazy: .

That's like leaving it on a table in a bar / club and
Telling people "don't you dare spike my drink " :facepalm: , careless & very silly.

Just buy a new drink or go to the toilet first then buy a drink .

[Beso]

to the toilet first then buy a drink .

That's what I mutter to my bladder under my breath when I walk in a pub. .he doesn't listen..

He just smirks at me, with that knowing look..not yet son, not yet.

[Beso]

Parmy for No 10.

At least we know he couldn't do any worse....

Only time I will be in number ten is if I'm creepy up the stairs into Teresa's bedroom naked, apart from some fluffy nipple tassels.

[GoldHeart]

That's what I mutter to my bladder under my breath when I walk in a pub. .he doesn't listen..

He just smirks at me, with that knowing look..not yet son, not yet.

Well I CAN'T help you there . If you're on your own though don't expect the barman doing his job to watch your drink :facepalm: .

And It's petty beyond to get police involved ,pretty sure they have more important things to worry about like stabbings & other crimes ! .

[GoldHeart]

your drink your responsibility !

[Beso]

Well I CAN'T help you there . If you're on your own though don't expect the barman doing his job to watch your drink :facepalm: .

And It's petty beyond to get police involved ,pretty sure they have more important things to worry about like stabbings & other crimes ! .

Stabbings and other crimes....other crimes like theft?

[bots]

page 8 beckons

[Livia]

So Parm, was the bar busy?

[bots]

So Parm, was the bar busy?

yeah, they were busy looking for Parms drink :laugh:

[Livia]

yeah, they were busy looking for Parms drink :laugh:

LOL... as so they should.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The bar tender says ‘We don’t serve Time Travellers in here’







A Time Traveller walks into a bar.

[Beso]

So Parm, was the bar busy?

No..I was the only person standing at the bar for a good 20 minutes before I went for a pee..came back up and there were some of the table lot buying drinks....



Interesting fact......I'm in Shoreditch again..wasn't going to stop of for a drink but it started sleeting so had to nip in quick to the golden heart...blame LT and his contagious sleet remarks...the swine.

[Livia]

No..I was the only person standing at the bar for a good 20 minutes before I went for a pee..came back up and there were some of the table lot buying drinks....



Interesting fact......I'm in Shoreditch again..wasn't going to stop of for a drink but it started sleeting so had to nip in quick to the golden heart...blame LT and his contagious sleet remarks...the swine.

Well if the bar wasn't busy I see no reason why a member of bar staff couldn't keep their eye on your drink for you. I would have... I've worked behind a bar (a job that's hard and thankless...). They were right to give you another drink.

Hey, keep an eye on your drink today....

[Beso]

Well if the bar wasn't busy I see no reason why a member of bar staff couldn't keep their eye on your drink for you. I would have... I've worked behind a bar (a job that's hard and thankless...). They were right to give you another drink.

Hey, keep an eye on your drink today....

Oh I've got an extra pair of reading glasses today, don't you worry about that..only having 2 anyway...I think.

[Livia]

The bar tender says ‘We don’t serve Time Travellers in here’







A Time Traveller walks into a bar.

Haha...

[GoldHeart]

Stabbings and other crimes....other crimes like theft?

If you think a poxy drink going missing is as important as someone getting shanked to death by a knife ! , then it's pointless debating with you :crazy: :bored: .

[Livia]

If you think a poxy drink going missing is as important as someone getting shanked to death by a knife ! , then it's pointless debating with you :crazy: :bored: .


I think you're taking this thread too seriously. :crazy:

[AnnieK]

Any thefts last night Parm?

[bots]

Any thefts last night Parm?

he left his balls on the bar, but no-one took them

[user104658]

Well if the bar wasn't busy I see no reason why a member of bar staff couldn't keep their eye on your drink for you. I would have... I've worked behind a bar (a job that's hard and thankless...).

Not Livia working in a Rugby club bar slipping roofies to the beefcakes :worry:

[Beso]

Any thefts last night Parm?

Only me getting from stanford le hope to haggerston station and back for nothing on the c2c, london underground and overground...a serious win for me against london.

[Livia]

Not Livia working in a Rugby club bar slipping roofies to the beefcakes :worry:

Sadly no... Just one of two or three jobs I had when I was a student. Although that rugby club with the beefcakes, I'd probably have volunteered to do that for free.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Only me getting from stanford le hope to haggerston station and back for nothing on the c2c, london underground and overground...a serious win for me against london.

:clap1:

sticking it to "the man"

[Cherie]

Can somebody call the transport police as a crime has been committed :hehe:

[Livia]

Can somebody call the transport police as a crime has been committed :hehe:

Already done... up with lawbreakers we will not put.

[caprimint]

Mr Sadiq Khan is on his way to Essex as we speak

[Beso]

Mr Sadiq Khan is on his way to Essex as we speak

No, like yesterday the trains are you know what today....he won't put himself through what I had to endure yesterday.

I actually got stopped on my way back into stanford le hope..the man in the yellow jacket said ticket please..first one to do so all day.

I just yelled, "money back please" at him...like he expected me to not want my money back for that experience..

I didn't have a ticket but he let me through to shut me up.

[Beso]

Already done... up with lawbreakers we will not put.

Livia, you have always been a fan of gavin Williamson. .I'm not surprised.:fist:

[Beso]

:clap1:

sticking it to "the man"

I was sat thinking to myself smugly, I gave an illigal begger about a fiver on here last time..now I'm delayed, changing trains..squeezed in to my bare tits amongst west ham, hen parties, office parties, and shoppers all the way to stratford due to west ham station being shut off for works...but it's free..

It's always free to haggerston from shoreditch high street though...lazy staff.:nono:

[Beso]

Can somebody call the transport police as a crime has been committed :hehe:

Et tu Cherie :umm2::umm2:

[caprimint]

No, like yesterday the trains are you know what today....he won't put himself through what I had to endure yesterday.

I actually got stopped on my way back into stanford le hope..the man in the yellow jacket said ticket please..first one to do so all day.

I just yelled, "money back please" at him...like he expected me to not want my money back for that experience..

I didn't have a ticket but he let me through to shut me up.
:joker:

Some of the officers don't care at all, the older ones do more than the younger ones from my experience without sounding ageist

I don't know what it's like on the trains, but on the DLR they just tell you "get off at the next stop and tap in", it's really easy to travel for free at stations without gates

[Beso]

:joker:

Some of the officers don't care at all, the older ones do more than the younger ones from my experience without sounding ageist

I don't know what it's like on the trains, but on the DLR they just tell you "get off at the next stop and tap in", it's really easy to travel for free at stations without gates

Definitely caprimint, you have to watch out for the wise old heads..but they are usually more open to a valid explanation though which can be exploited.:hee:

[GoldHeart]

I think you're taking this thread too seriously. :crazy:

Not really I just fine it silly.

And it's in the section "serious debate & news" but whatever :idc:

[Beso]

Not really I just fine it silly.

And it's in the section "serious debate & news" but whatever :idc:

Celebrity news, I've been in 2 feature length films called crying with laughter and accounts.