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Sorry, but this is wrong.
Marsh.
27-08-2019, 09:53 AM
What's wrong?
What's wrong?
Grown men sexualizing that young boy by throwing dollar bills at him as he performs his sexy routine.:shrug:
Are you thinking that's ok?
Marsh.
27-08-2019, 09:58 AM
What's sexual about throwing money?
What's sexual about throwing money?
Don't play dumb.
Marsh.
27-08-2019, 10:01 AM
Not playing dumb. If throwing money at someone is sexual then the street performers are a bit more disturbing than first thought.
His performance being a "sexy dance" is your own interpretation.
Glenn.
27-08-2019, 10:03 AM
clockedt
Kizzy
27-08-2019, 10:04 AM
It looks like some charity fancy dress thing nothing remotely sexual.. :/
Come on get a grip parm :idc:
It looks like some charity fancy dress thing nothing remotely sexual.. :/
Come on get a grip parm :idc:
And you find that acceptable...an 11 year old getting treated like a cheap stripper..
Marsh.
27-08-2019, 10:33 AM
And you find that acceptable...an 11 year old getting treated like a cheap stripper..
Except he's not stripping... and no one asked him to... but yeah, other than that it's exactly like stripping.
Not playing dumb. If throwing money at someone is sexual then the street performers are a bit more disturbing than first thought.
His performance being a "sexy dance" is your own interpretation.
His performance was of a singers sexy dance..I did not find it sexy in the slightest..I found it abhorrent, disgusting and the people tossing the bills perverted.
Kizzy
27-08-2019, 10:52 AM
And you find that acceptable...an 11 year old getting treated like a cheap stripper..
Ive watched the vid, yes I find it acceptable. I can't see your problem.
It's just some birthday party or something and a kid is prancing about in a very non sexual way fully clothed. The fake money is a prop for the performance yes but there's no sleezy undertone.
Ive watched the vid, yes I find it acceptable. I can't see your problem.
It's just some birthday party or something and a kid is prancing about in a very non sexual way fully clothed. The fake money is a prop for the performance yes but there's no sleezy undertone.
He has an awful lot of youtube subscribers to his channel for this to be merely a birthday bash...he has his own stage name fgs....look at the views as well...someone's finding it sexy!!
Cherie
27-08-2019, 11:01 AM
It looks like some charity fancy dress thing nothing remotely sexual.. :/
Come on get a grip parm :idc:
where does it say its for charity kizzy?
Kizzy
27-08-2019, 11:12 AM
where does it say its for charity kizzy?
I said it looks like some charity fancy dress thing.
Why don't you post your opinon cherie.. before you start attempting to dismantle mine, this is a running theme recently let's nip it in the bud.
Marsh.
27-08-2019, 11:16 AM
His performance was of a singers sexy dance..I did not find it sexy in the slightest..I found it abhorrent, disgusting and the people tossing the bills perverted.
Are 11 year olds not allowed to dance now?
Cherie
27-08-2019, 11:17 AM
I said it looks like some charity fancy dress thing.
Why don't you post your opinon cherie.. before you start attempting to dismantle mine, this is a running theme recently let's nip it in the bud.
I just wanted to clarify with you kizzy as you seemed so sure, but then you said it was fake money so I was even more confused
My opinion is that if this was an 11 year old girl, it wouldn't be particular appropriate to be dancing suggestively and removing clothing in what appears to be a mainly male audience from what we can see, so I would say the same applies to an 11 year old boy
Marsh.
27-08-2019, 11:17 AM
He has an awful lot of youtube subscribers to his channel for this to be merely a birthday bash...he has his own stage name fgs....look at the views as well...someone's finding it sexy!!
The only possible reason he has subscribers to a youtube channel is if perverts find him sexy? Really?
What a warped way of looking at the world.
Jordan.
27-08-2019, 11:33 AM
He has an awful lot of youtube subscribers to his channel for this to be merely a birthday bash...he has his own stage name fgs....look at the views as well...someone's finding it sexy!!
How did you manage to come across this channel? The video was uploaded almost a year ago :conf:
The Slim Reaper
27-08-2019, 11:38 AM
I agree with parm, that 11yr old boy is super sexy.
Marsh.
27-08-2019, 11:40 AM
I agree with parm, that 11yr old boy is super sexy.
:skull:
Are 11 year olds not allowed to dance now?
Course they are...it's the grown men throwing the bills at him as I have clearly explained.
I agree with parm, that 11yr old boy is super sexy.
You agree with yourself....as I have stated I don't find it sexy....you do though. Are the police aware of this man mods?
How did you manage to come across this channel? The video was uploaded almost a year ago :conf:
I was researching convicted paedophiles who read books to children in libraries whilst dressed in drag in the USA..
The only possible reason he has subscribers to a youtube channel is if perverts find him sexy? Really?
What a warped way of looking at the world.
Only that's not what I said..
The Slim Reaper
27-08-2019, 12:31 PM
You agree with yourself....as I have stated I don't find it sexy....you do though. Are the police aware of this man mods?
Don't be coy you old flirt.
Don't be coy you old flirt.
You are wierd mate...definate multi of dezzy.
...I’m just reading about him...Desmond is Amazing is his stage/drag name...and this was a performance..which seems fine, I mean his parents were there apparently ....
The Slim Reaper
27-08-2019, 12:36 PM
You are wierd mate...definate multi of dezzy.
I'd be honoured.
...I’m just reading about him...Desmond is Amazing is his stage/drag name...and this was a performance..which seems fine, I mean his parents were there apparently ....
They need locking up if that true ..allowing grown men to watch your kid parade about like that as they hand him dollar bills....
And everyone's ok with this...mental...the world's gone mental.
...the giving of the dollar bills...(..or whatever amount is being given..)..is apparently traditional for drag acts because many are paid very little to perform...so it’s a traditional appreciation of their performance from the audience...I read that in the comment section/replies...it’s something I hadn’t known...apparently social services have been called on occasions...(..if that’s true, I honestly don’t know...I’m just reading about Desmond is Amazing..)...and there is nothing of any concern to them...hence he continues with his drag act...I think his act is fairly lovely, he’s very talented..:love: ..and it’s what he wants to do...I wouldn’t really describe it as ‘parading’...he is performing his act in the same way that Gwen did in the vid...I don’t find it sexual in any way or to have an inappropriate feel...
...the giving of the dollar bills...(..or whatever amount is being given..)..is apparently traditional for drag acts because many are paid very little to perform...so it’s a traditional appreciation of their performance from the audience...I read that in the comment section/replies...it’s something I hadn’t known...apparently social services have been called on occasions...(..if that’s true, I honestly don’t know...I’m just reading about Desmond is Amazing..)...and there is nothing of any concern to them...hence he continues with his drag act...I think his act is fairly lovely, he’s very talented..:love: ..and it’s what he wants to do...I wouldn’t really describe it as ‘parading’...he is performing his act in the same way that Gwen did in the vid...I don’t find it sexual in any way to have an inappropriate feel...
strippers are paid in bills to strip too. I think its very inappropriate
...the giving of the dollar bills...(..or whatever amount is being given..)..is apparently traditional for drag acts because many are paid very little to perform...so it’s a traditional appreciation of their performance from the audience...I read that in the comment section/replies...it’s something I hadn’t known...apparently social services have been called on occasions...(..if that’s true, I honestly don’t know...I’m just reading about Desmond is Amazing..)...and there is nothing of any concern to them...hence he continues with his drag act...I think his act is fairly lovely, he’s very talented..:love: ..and it’s what he wants to do...I wouldn’t really describe it as ‘parading’...he is performing his act in the same way that Gwen did in the vid...I don’t find it sexual in any way or to have an inappropriate feel...
I don't mind him doing it...but why don't they have kids the same age handing out the bills...even that sound a bit off to me...but it would be better than adults.:shrug:
The Slim Reaper
27-08-2019, 12:49 PM
strippers are paid in bills to strip too. I think its very inappropriate
But the context behind this is that he wasn't stripping. Context without context is lacking in context.
JerseyWins
27-08-2019, 12:51 PM
It’s INAPPROPRIATE /RennyMartyn
But the context behind this is that he wasn't stripping. Context without context is lacking in context.
Watch it again...he takes a good few items of clothing of to loud cheers everytime.
I don't mind him doing it...but why don't they have kids the same age handing out the bills...even that sound a bit off to me...but it would be better than adults.:shrug:
...they’re in a bar...he’s allowed to perform in the bar with his parents present and obviously there are regulations/guidelines which are being followed as he seems to be a very accomplished performer...he’s performed with some Ru Paul’s queens at very swish functions...:laugh:...(..adult functions, so his performances there would be to adults as well..)...
armand.kay
27-08-2019, 12:55 PM
it's not as bad as the op makes out but its still ****ing weird I'm sorry :/
armand.kay
27-08-2019, 12:56 PM
how is it even legal for a child to preform in a bar this is gross :/
Mystic Mock
27-08-2019, 12:56 PM
Watch it again...he takes a good few items of clothing of to loud cheers everytime.
Really?!:umm2:
I haven't been able to watch the video due to computer problems, but that's a bit creepy if true.
But the context behind this is that he wasn't stripping. Context without context is lacking in context.
...although he removes his dress, he has a full outfit underneath...which is the exact same outfit that Gwen is wearing in the vid...so a reason for him to remove the dress as well to reveal the outfit of the performance that he’s doing...
...they’re in a bar...he’s allowed to perform in the bar with his parents present and obviously there are regulations/guidelines which are being followed as he seems to be a very accomplished performer...he’s performed with some Ru Paul’s queens at very swish functions...:laugh:...(..adult functions, so his performances there would be to adults as well..)...
Oh well...all this at 11...
Poor kids being used in my opinion.
AnnieK
27-08-2019, 12:59 PM
how is it even legal for a child to preform in a bar this is gross :/
He has a child labour permit that allows him to work in the state of New York if his parent/guardian is present.
...although he removes his dress, he has a full outfit underneath...which is the exact same outfit that Gwen is wearing in the vid...so a reason for him to remove the dress as well to reveal the outfit of the performance that he’s doing...
He does another performance at the same gig..it's a bit more disturbing....disturbing because adults have perhaps paid to watch this?
Oh well...all this at 11...
Poor kids being used in my opinion.
...I don’t know what the working laws are for children in the USA or is it Canada, I’m not sure...but in the U.K., we have child actors/child performers/child models etc...who so long as all legislation is adhered to ...and a parent or guardian is present at all times etc...
it's not as bad as the op makes out but its still ****ing weird I'm sorry :/
Oh...I thought the op described exactly what was happening.:conf:
Or does op mean original poster and not original post. ??
armand.kay
27-08-2019, 01:03 PM
He has a child labour permit that allows him to work in the state of New York if his parent/guardian is present.
it was more about the bar environment than the child labor thing lol
armand.kay
27-08-2019, 01:05 PM
Oh...I thought the op described exactly what was happening.:conf:
Or does op mean original poster and not original post. ??
both.
AnnieK
27-08-2019, 01:06 PM
it was more about the bar environment than the child labor thing lol
Yeah but the child labour permit allows them to work in bars in NY with a parent / guardian present.
armand.kay
27-08-2019, 01:10 PM
Yeah but the child labour permit allows them to work in bars in NY with a parent / guardian present.
I wasn't doubting weather this was legal I was calling into questioning why this was legal.
I wasn't doubting weather this was legal I was calling into questioning why this was legal.
I ain't checked but I'm assuming Clinton passed this law.
Cherie
27-08-2019, 01:14 PM
it's not as bad as the op makes out but its still ****ing weird I'm sorry :/
:clap1:
Twosugars
27-08-2019, 01:18 PM
It's the Clintons fault! Everybody knows they are pedos. Hilary also eats children
Also I bet the EU are involved somehow :think:
It's the Clintons fault! Everybody knows they are pedos. Hilary also eats children
Also I bet the EU are involved somehow :think:
Have you checked yet.:shrug:..Im busy.
Marsh.
27-08-2019, 01:23 PM
Course they are...it's the grown men throwing the bills at him as I have clearly explained.
And you've failed to explain why?
Marsh.
27-08-2019, 01:25 PM
strippers are paid in bills to strip too. I think its very inappropriate
Oh Jesus. I get paid tips from customers too!!! IN CASH!!! Does that make me a sex worker? :bawling:
Twosugars
27-08-2019, 01:35 PM
Oh Jesus. I get paid tips from customers too!!! IN CASH!!! Does that make me a sex worker? :bawling:
I knew it! :omgno:
Amy Jade
27-08-2019, 01:45 PM
The money is literally just tips. My friend delivers food for Dominos and accepts tips too does this make him a sex worker?
Admittedly the scene is a bit odd but it's not sexual at all and his parents were filming so I don't see much difference between this and children dancing in general.
Oh Jesus. I get paid tips from customers too!!! IN CASH!!! Does that make me a sex worker? :bawling:
Shove a happnney...just took a whole new twist.
Cherie
27-08-2019, 02:10 PM
The money is literally just tips. My friend delivers food for Dominos and accepts tips too does this make him a sex worker?
Admittedly the scene is a bit odd but it's not sexual at all and his parents were filming so I don't see much difference between this and children dancing in general.
because we have never had cases of parents exploiting their children?
Glenn.
27-08-2019, 02:25 PM
Who has the time to care about this? :umm2:
Who has the time to care about this? :umm2:
Me...Im skiving work.:shrug:
Cherie
27-08-2019, 02:30 PM
Who has the time to care about this? :umm2:
it's got to 3 pages in a matter of hours, that is a record these days
Glenn.
27-08-2019, 02:36 PM
rip tibb x
Amy Jade
27-08-2019, 03:24 PM
because we have never had cases of parents exploiting their children?
Read up about him, he loves dancing and drag. His parents simply support his choices.
Bit ignorant to suggest they are exploiting him when if you dig a bit deeper you'd know better.
Cherie
27-08-2019, 04:04 PM
Read up about him, he loves dancing and drag. His parents simply support his choices.
Bit ignorant to suggest they are exploiting him when if you dig a bit deeper you'd know better.
I never said they were exploiting him, you made a generalised comment that his parents were filming as if that made it okay, many parents do exploit their kids, bit naïve to think otherwise
Cherie
27-08-2019, 04:05 PM
Oh Jesus. I get paid tips from customers too!!! IN CASH!!! Does that make me a sex worker? :bawling:
Not Marsh gyrating behind the counter for cash, no wonder bookies are closing down, you don't get that online :laugh:
The last days of Rome.
This is the kind of behavior that happens at the end of every civilisation. We're just coming to the end of the current one.
Hard Times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times.
We're currently at the point of weak men creating hard times. But it will change again.
Twosugars
27-08-2019, 04:30 PM
The last days of Rome.
This is the kind of behavior that happens at the end of every civilisation. We're just coming to the end of the current one.
:laugh2:
The same was said when women started wearing trousers
The last days of Rome.
This is the kind of behavior that happens at the end of every civilisation. We're just coming to the end of the current one.
I'm naming it the caligula factor before its all to late.:joker:
Twosugars
27-08-2019, 04:34 PM
I'm naming it the caligula factor before its all to late.:joker:
The funny thing is caligula was at the beginning of the Roman empire
It took another 400 years before the western half fell, and 1500 before the eastern part folded
But dont let facts get in the way :laugh:
The funny thing is caligula was at the beginning of the Roman empire
It took another 400 years before the western half fell, and 1500 before the eastern part folded
But dont let facts get in the way :laugh:
Oh, you don't want to do it like that, do you.
Did you know harry Enfield by any chance?..
Your going to tell me his side kick came up with that character now ain't you?
Kizzy
27-08-2019, 04:47 PM
Hard Times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times.
We're currently at the point of weak men creating hard times. But it will change again.
I like that... get Boris and trump out, let the good times roll!!
I like that... get Boris and trump out, let the good times roll!!
And replace them with what?:joker:
Thought this was another thread....
What has trump got to do with this....if anything people in favour of allowing grown men to be acting like that should be championing him..
Twosugars
27-08-2019, 04:54 PM
I like that... get Boris and trump out, let the good times roll!!
I fear the far right has to screw up even more before the tide turns.
Twosugars
27-08-2019, 04:55 PM
And replace them with what?:joker:
With people who dont lie
With people who dont lie
Take it elsewhere
Moniqua
27-08-2019, 05:01 PM
i've always dreamt of doing this :lovedup:
i would slay x
Twosugars
27-08-2019, 05:04 PM
Take it elsewhere
You can order around at home, if they let you. Not here.
You can order around at home, if they let you. Not here.
Oh sorry...I do that rather than reporting for derailing the thread with unrelated content.:shrug:
Kizzy
27-08-2019, 05:08 PM
I just wanted to clarify with you kizzy as you seemed so sure, but then you said it was fake money so I was even more confused
My opinion is that if this was an 11 year old girl, it wouldn't be particular appropriate to be dancing suggestively and removing clothing in what appears to be a mainly male audience from what we can see, so I would say the same applies to an 11 year old boy
Seemed so sure?.. I wasn't there chere, I'm just here giving an an opinion like most :/
Even if it was a charity event it could still be fake money for the performance, if you notice at one stage he picks it all back up and flings it back into the audience.
I'm glad you finally gave your view, well done, I'm also sorry I confused you, next time I'll simplify my comments... maybe include diagrams or hand puppets :hee:
Good point that...Cherie.
If it were just an 11yr old girl being filmed having bills handed to her as she did that...what's everyone's opinions on that...seeing as we are mostly all here now ?
sleleen
27-08-2019, 05:35 PM
i've always dreamt of doing this :lovedup:
i would slay x
me too, ah’d have my drag name be called caprice sun (capri sun)
Kizzy
27-08-2019, 05:36 PM
And replace them with what?:joker:
Thought this was another thread....
What has trump got to do with this....if anything people in favour of allowing grown men to be acting like that should be championing him..
Strong men creating good times obv... :rolleyes:
Cherie
27-08-2019, 05:36 PM
Seemed so sure?.. I wasn't there chere, I'm just here giving an an opinion like most :/
Even if it was a charity event it could still be fake money for the performance, if you notice at one stage he picks it all back up and flings it back into the audience.
I'm glad you finally gave your view, well done, I'm also sorry I confused you, next time I'll simplify my comments... maybe include diagrams or hand puppets :hee:
honestly kizzy you are making me howl, thread posted at 11 something, I give my opinion at 12 something on a work day.....the shame.:joker:..why did I take so long :sad: must respond faster so kizzy is happier
Cherie
27-08-2019, 05:37 PM
Good point that...Cherie.
If it were just an 11yr old girl being filmed having bills handed to her as she did that...what's everyone's opinions on that...seeing as we are mostly all here now ?
an 11 year old girl recreating a video in a pub full of men, because she loves dancing, I am sure the responses would be as forgiving :joker:
Jessica.
27-08-2019, 05:40 PM
I watched a documentary about that boy before, he loves the art of drag and he doesn't do or wear anything that's not appropriate for his age so I think it's fine. :shrug:
Cherie
27-08-2019, 05:40 PM
me too, ah’d be called caprice sun
would you finish though or would you let them hanging like that game you started last century :sad:
..he really is quite an amazing young person....:lovedup:..
Desmond Napoles (stage name: Desmond is Amazing) is a 12-year old drag kid, awarded LGBTQ advocate, outspoken gay youth, editorial and runway model, public speaker, performer, founder of his own drag house: the Haus of Amazing, fashion designer, film and TV actor, published author, muse, legendary up-and-coming member of the original pioneering voguing house, the House of UltraOmni, and icon from New York City. Most importantly, he is an inspiration to many and a representation of hope for the future to come.
Desmond's Bio
Desmond Napoles (stage name: Desmond is Amazing) is a 12-year old drag kid, awarded LGBTQ advocate, outspoken gay youth, editorial and runway model, public speaker, performer, founder of his own drag house: the Haus of Amazing, fashion designer, film and TV actor, published author, muse, legendary up-and-coming member of the original pioneering voguing house, the House of UltraOmni, and icon from New York City. Most importantly, he is an inspiration to many and a representation of hope for the future to come.
Desmond first developed an interest in drag when he was a toddler. His mother would be watching RuPaul's Drag Race and he would stop playing with his toys in order to watch as well. He thought the drag queens were so amazing and beautiful, like princesses. He made his professional drag debut in RuPaul's Drag Race season 5 winner Jinkx Monsoon's video for the "Bacon Shake" when he was just 7 years old. He continues to perform on stage and at events.
Desmond is an awarded LGBTQ+ advocate whose goal is to teach LGBTQ+ youth how to be themselves always and to pay haters no mind because they "will never be as fierce as you and I". He has received a letter of recognition from the president of Fairleigh-Dickinson University, is the "child honor godfather" of the ONG Espana campaign #unfuturosinviolencia, and has earned the Marsha P. Johnson Don't Be Outraged Be Outrageous award from Heritage of Pride and a Queeroes Award from Conde Nast Them for his work in the LGBTQ community. He was listed on the 2018 Dazed100 and Out100 top influencers. He was nominated for a Qweerty Award, Shorty Award, and Social Global Impact Award. He has been featured in Pride campaigns for Google and Converse. Desmond is also the founder of the first ever drag house for drag kids, the Haus of Amazing. He is frequently featured in positive articles, videos, and campaigns in various LGBTQ media. He has accomplished so much for his community in his 12 years of life.
He has slayed the runways at New York Fashion Week, including Gyspy Sport, The Blonds x Disney Villians, and Nicopanda's MAC Cosmetics collaboration with Macy's. He's appeared in Vogue Magazine four times, breaking the age and gender boundaries of the fashion industry. Desmond has designed his own line of fans with Daftboy, t-shirts with Drag Queen Merch, and a line of lashes with Chimera Lashes. Additional collaborations include Canon cameras, Manic Panic, The Phluid Project, Marc Jacobs, Converse, and Human Rights Campaign.
Desmond has a lot on the horizon. He has recorded his first inspirational music single "We Are All Amazing", which will be released in 2019. He has written a children's book called "Be Amazing" for Macmillian Children's Publishing Group to teach young children how to have self-confidence and express themselves, to be released Spring 2020. He is currently working on a TV show and magazine for LGBTQ youth. In his spare time, he enjoys collecting miniature trains, playing with Hot Wheels, drawing maps, playing video games, and visiting parks and zoos. He also loves pigeons and would like to study ornithology in the future.
What inspires Desmond most is the feedback he receives from other "drag kids" and LGBTQ+ youth. Often times they describe how Desmond has helped them discover the importance of self-expression and gave them the courage to come out. It is this personal engagement with fans, which Desmond has coined his "Amazies", that motivates him to continue doing drag and advocacy work. Desmond's motto is "Be Yourself, Always".
Desmond has been featured and mentioned in numerous magazines and online media sites including NewNowNext, Mic, Out Magazine, The Village Voice, World of Wonder's WOW Report and WOW Presents, Go Magazine, Vogue, Refinery29, Gayletter, Teen Vogue, Buzzfeed, Perez Hilton, Yahoo and Yahoo Beauty, LogoTV, Boys By Girls, Hardy Zine, Konbini, InStyle, Huffpost, Access Hollywood, Slate, Time Out NYC, Qwear Fashion, Bustle, BoyCulture, Broadway World, Paper Magazine, Gayly, Daily Mail UK, The Cut, The Advocate, Gay City News, Pride.com, New York Magazine, The Today Show, Andy Warhol's Interview, Google Show Up Stories, Good Morning America, CNN, and many more around the world. Desmond was a guest talent at RuPaul's DragCon NYC 2017.
Current Projects
HAUS OF AMAZING
Desmond is the founder of the first ever drag house exclusively for youth, called the Haus of Amazing. His goal is to bring young drag kids, bio queens, drag kings, and anyone else who loves drag together in a safe, positive, worldwide online community. As the community grows, there are opportunities for potential meet-ups and events. Because the drag house is restricted to members age twenty and younger, members can communicate freely and candidly with their peers without the often judgmental interference of adults.
Future Projects
AMAZE.MENT FASHIONS
Desmond has been sketching designs in his fashion template notebooks since he was around age seven. He currently designs his own outfits which his mom then creates for him. After watching the documentary, “The True Cost” and meeting designer Michael Laed, Desmond has been interested in creating outfits using donated clothing, unconventional materials, and items purchased from a local pro-LGBTQ thrift store, called “Out of the Closet”. It is his dream to have his own fashion line in the future focused on sustainable fashion. He would call his fashion house AMAZE.MENT. This is a combination of the words “amazing” and “statement”.
THE AMAZIEST MAGAZINE
Desmond is in the process of developing a magazine targeted at LGBTQ youth called The Amaziest. All content will be created and submitted by LGBTQ youth for LGBTQ youth. He is researching various methods of producing the magazine, as well as a design and layout consistent with his message.
BE AMAZED COSMETICS
Desmond would also like to develop, in the future, a cosmetics line for drag kids. He wants the line to include oil-free products, not tested on animals, and bright, highly pigmented colors. All and any advertising will feature drag kids of all ages and types.
DESMOND IS AMAZING INSPIRATIONAL MERCH
Desmond is looking to create an inspiring line of merchandise featuring his heart shaped logo, his most inspirational and memorable phrases, and his signature motto, “Be Yourself, Always”. All proceeds will go to a selected LGBTQ non-profit program helping LGBTQ youth each month.
https://desmondisamazing.com/
I watched a documentary about that boy before, he loves the art of drag and he doesn't do or wear anything that's not appropriate for his age so I think it's fine. :shrug:
...I hadn’t heard of him before but he seems quite inspirational for drag kids, Jess...
i've always dreamt of doing this :lovedup:
i would slay x
You already pretend to be a woman for old men (albeit on a BB forum), don't act like you aren't livin' it up as we speak :Nono:
UserSince2005
27-08-2019, 05:44 PM
Thats not an 11 year, old thats Aquaria, dummy.
I watched a documentary about that boy before, he loves the art of drag and he doesn't do or wear anything that's not appropriate for his age so I think it's fine. :shrug:Didn't his parents say that they all sit around taking ketamine?
Thats not an 11 year, old thats Aquaria, dummy.
That's a star sign, DUMMY!
UserSince2005
27-08-2019, 05:49 PM
That's a star sign, DUMMY!
Your thinking of Aquarius :pat: dont worry we all have our thick and pig **** days.
...I hadn’t heard of him before but he seems quite inspirational for drag kids, Jess...
Drag kids!!
How young?
Who makes the choices parents or kid?
Kizzy
27-08-2019, 05:51 PM
honestly kizzy you are making me howl, thread posted at 11 something, I give my opinion at 12 something on a work day.....the shame.:joker:..why did I take so long :sad: must respond faster so kizzy is happier
I meant you responded to the thread with your opinion only after posting to question mine. :smug:
Drag kids!!
How young?
Who makes the choices parents or kid?
...there’s a huge amount to read up about him, Parmy...he has been drawn to drag and designing his own clothing since he was 2yrs old...
...it’s very common to have child models, child actors, child dancers ..
all different artistic performers etc as children...children can also be scouted for sports like football as well from quite a young age...I think it’s lovely that his parents are supportive to something he has always so wanted to do...
...there’s a huge amount to read up about him, Parmy...he has been drawn to drag and designing his own clothing since he was 2yrs old...
Oh, clever little chap..being drawn to drag at 2...how did that occur I wonder :shrug:
...it’s very common to have child models, child actors, child dancers ..
all different artistic performers etc as children...children can also be scouted for sports like football as well from quite a young age...I think it’s lovely that his parents are supportive to something he has always so wanted to do...
Good point...but can we explain the men watching this kid? And the stuff they have always wanted...as that's what this thread is about.
...his act wasn’t sexual in any way, he was performing the video exactly how Gwen did ...as a drag artist would...I didn’t observe anything lewd from those watching and giving money is part of what happens with drag acts...so for me, I don’t see anything inappropriate from either his act of from anyone watching...
...I guess that I can understand the questioning of it or feeling uncomfortable with it if the act was somehow sexual...but I personally saw nothing sexual in how he was dancing..in his movements or his gestures...and I didn’t see anything from an audience that was just appreciating the art of his act...
Glenn.
27-08-2019, 06:07 PM
I can’t even understand the need to question it tbh. The kid isn’t harming anyone and as so many have already said, there was nothing sexual in the routine. The only issue with it is someone making an issue with it.
Twosugars
27-08-2019, 06:13 PM
Oh, clever little chap..being drawn to drag at 2...how did that occur I wonder :shrug:
Wonder no more.
A natural inclination. Some kids are drawn to football he was drawn to dressing up.
Big ****ing deal
...his act wasn’t sexual in any way, he was performing the video exactly how Gwen did ...as a drag artist would...I didn’t observe anything lewd from those watching and giving money is part of what happens with drag acts...so for me, I don’t see anything inappropriate from either his act of from anyone watching...
Just watched the video....of no doubt I'm just a girl...I didn't see many doller bills in it :shrug:
So for this young kid to be more and more exuberant and outlandish....in his head at such a young age means dollar bills....that I'm afraid...is grooming.
Amy Jade
27-08-2019, 06:14 PM
Good point that...Cherie.
If it were just an 11yr old girl being filmed having bills handed to her as she did that...what's everyone's opinions on that...seeing as we are mostly all here now ?
My mum used to film me at dance younger than 11. Admittedly no money was thrown at me but it's not just dance, that is also drag and it normal to hand the drag artist money :shrug:
Twosugars
27-08-2019, 06:14 PM
Just watched the video....of no doubt I'm just a girl...I didn't see many doller bills in it :shrug:
So for this young kid to be more and more exuberant and outlandish....in his head at such a young age means dollar bills....that I'm afraid...is grooming.
Grooming :joker:
...a child actor because they are being paid...are being groomed...?...
...a child actor because they are being paid...are being groomed...?...
He's not an actor...he's a child performer.
ELEVEN YEAR OLD ONE
...his act means an income...of course, in his thought processes...but many make an income from things they love to do...especially in the arts...
Glenn.
27-08-2019, 06:17 PM
He's not an actor...he's a child performer.
ELEVEN YEAR OLD ONE
Is an actor not a performer then?
He's not an actor...he's a child performer.
ELEVEN YEAR OLD ONE
...as an actor is a child performer...some 11yr olds and some younger...I get that you’re upset about this, Parmy because you see something inappropriate in it...I get that...I just don’t see the inappropriate though as you do...
...I guess that I can understand the questioning of it or feeling uncomfortable with it if the act was somehow sexual...but I personally saw nothing sexual in how he was dancing..in his movements or his gestures...and I didn’t see anything from an audience that was just appreciating the art of his act...
The dollar bills and the cheering when he took the clothes off turned it into a sexual performance....for some attendees...would you be comfortable attending an event like that?
Glenn.
27-08-2019, 06:21 PM
The only problem parm has with it is that it’s an 11yr old boy dancing in drag and to him that’s unacceptable. The homophobia is real.
Glenn.
27-08-2019, 06:23 PM
The dollar bills and the cheering when he took the clothes off turned it into a sexual performance....for some attendees...would you be comfortable attending an event like that?
You’re the only one seeing this as sexual. Maybe the problem isn’t with the video but with you instead?
You’re the only one seeing this as sexual. Maybe the problem isn’t with the video but with you instead?
Slim was the only one seeing the boy as sexual...stop prodding...Im not entertaining your day...
My point is these men attending the event could be finding it extremely sexual.
Glenn.
27-08-2019, 06:27 PM
Slim was the only one seeing the boy as sexual...stop prodding...Im not entertaining your day...
My point is these men attending the event could be finding it extremely sexual.
Highly unlikely
Highly unlikely
We all know where that attitude took us in the past..:nono:
Glenn.
27-08-2019, 06:31 PM
We all know where that attitude took us in the past..:nono:
Just because you’re viewing it in a sexual manner doesn’t mean the men in the room were.
Kizzy
27-08-2019, 06:31 PM
Slim was the only one seeing the boy as sexual...stop prodding...Im not entertaining your day...
My point is these men attending the event could be finding it extremely sexual.
:joker: :joker: of course he wasn't! He was mocking your strange take on this, which appears to be getting stranger moment to moment :/
The dollar bills and the cheering when he took the clothes off turned it into a sexual performance....for some attendees...would you be comfortable attending an event like that?
...he took an over shirt thing off to reveal a full outfit of clothing...(...as worn by Gwen in the vid..)...he wasn’t semi clothed, he was fully clothed ...and being respectfully handed notes, which he took and respectfully placed on the floor...as it’s customary for drag acts to be handed money by the audience...his parents were present through it all...and yeah, judging by everything I see in the vid plus what I’ve read about him and...(...and I’ve seen no sleazy comments below anything I’ve read about him....only praise for the positive role model he is for other children who love drag...)...I would be happy to go see his act...
RileyH
27-08-2019, 06:34 PM
me
:joker: :joker: of course he wasn't! He was mocking your strange take on this, which appears to be getting stranger moment to moment :/
Oh so that's how it works yeah...someone actually posts they find an 11 yr old boy in drag sexy...and they have the audacity to suggest someone else did as well...yet the guilty one is the concerned party..
Stick to politics and baiting Cherie. .:nono:
...he took an over shirt thing off to reveal a full outfit of clothing...(...as worn by Gwen in the vid..)...he wasn’t semi clothed, he was fully clothed ...and being respectfully handed notes, which he took and respectfully placed on the floor...as it’s customary for drag acts to be handed money by the audience...his parents were present through it all...and yeah, judging by everything I see in the vid plus what I’ve read about him and...(...and I’ve seen no sleazy comments below anything I’ve read about him....only praise for the positive role model he is for other children who love drag...)...I would be happy to go see his act...
Well we obviously see some people who attend such events differently...
Good luck to the kid..
Kizzy
27-08-2019, 06:41 PM
Oh so that's how it works yeah...someone actually posts they find an 11 yr old boy in drag sexy...and they have the audacity to suggest someone else did as well...yet the guilty one is the concerned party..
Stick to politics and baiting Cherie. .:nono:
He wasn't being serious.... is what I'm trying to tell you, the fact you took it as red is unfortunate.
If you notice 99% of the time cherie challenges my opinion initially on any given topic, but if thats baiting in your book fine. :idc:
He wasn't being serious.... is what I'm trying to tell you, the fact you took it as red is unfortunate.
If you notice 99% of the time cherie challenges my opinion on any given topic, but if thats baiting in your book fine. :idc:
Yes I notice all that...but my point is..and I know slim was joking..
My point is..someone posts something like that...and I'm still the wierdo to some....don't make sense to me...sorry.
Twosugars
27-08-2019, 06:48 PM
The only problem parm has with it is that it’s an 11yr old boy dancing in drag and to him that’s unacceptable. The homophobia is real.
Well said.
...I watched the vid again and it looks like quite a few females in the audience as well..I can see more females than males, I think...and also I think their are adult drag queens cheering him...
sleleen
27-08-2019, 06:49 PM
Riley nn
Cherie
27-08-2019, 06:52 PM
I meant you responded to the thread with your opinion only after posting to question mine. :smug:
I queried your remark about charity because I thought I was missing something.....not sure what the problem is, is there a specific way to post these days kizzy, please do enlighten me
Shaun
27-08-2019, 06:58 PM
hate to break it to you but kids have been dressing up as girls for a very long time
DouglasS
27-08-2019, 07:08 PM
What's sexual about throwing money?
If it was an 11 year old girl dancing and grown men throwing dollar bills at her it’d be unacceptable. It is exactly the same in the sense of it being a child and So I can see how people could find it inappropriate to be honest. The drag is irrelevant
It’s probably just harmless fun but it could be seen as sexualised to some
Shaun
27-08-2019, 07:10 PM
I guess we're all unfamiliar with the tipping culture of the drag scene, then.
It's done to pretty much congratulate a queen on a job well done, they're working the crowd and performing well. The idea you're getting something sexual from that...says more about you, really.
..I didn’t see the money being thrown...it was being respectfully handed to him and by males and females...the audience was very mixed as a drag performance would have...
Gstar
27-08-2019, 07:19 PM
These married men cannot wait for the day he turns 18
Your thinking of Aquarius :pat: dont worry we all have our thick and pig **** days.
I was being flippant deary
Similarly, I don't think that boy is Aquaria :) :pat:
Twosugars
27-08-2019, 07:35 PM
These married men cannot wait for the day he turns 18
Hope that's a joke
Kizzy
27-08-2019, 08:13 PM
Yes I notice all that...but my point is..and I know slim was joking..
My point is..someone posts something like that...and I'm still the wierdo to some....don't make sense to me...sorry.
Because it's really not that weird...but your making it weird, you are forcing it to be weird.
And thats weird.
Because it's really not that weird...but your making it weird, you are forcing it to be weird.
And thats weird.
Airing an opinion and reiterating that opinion when challenged, is not forcing an opinion...it's backing up an opinion...
Your sudden concern on this subject when just about all your posts are political leaning....is wierd to me.
:shrug:...do I bang on about that though?
Twosugars
27-08-2019, 09:46 PM
Airing an opinion and reiterating that opinion when challenged, is not forcing an opinion...it's backing up an opinion...
Your sudden concern on this subject when just about all your posts are political leaning....is wierd to me.
:shrug:...do I bang on about that though?
Backing up an opinion is providing additional facts, not repeating the same ad nauseam
Kizzy, didnt know you were meant to limit yourself to political posts :laugh:
Amy Jade
27-08-2019, 10:01 PM
Love seeing our Kizzy posting no matter where the posts may be :love:
Kizzy
27-08-2019, 10:15 PM
Airing an opinion and reiterating that opinion when challenged, is not forcing an opinion...it's backing up an opinion...
Your sudden concern on this subject when just about all your posts are political leaning....is wierd to me.
:shrug:...do I bang on about that though?
It's in serious debates isn't it? See your trying to make me commenting weird now.. :/
rusticgal
27-08-2019, 10:28 PM
I totally get where you are coming from Parmy...it’s more the fact that he is performing for adults that makes it an uncomfortable watch.
Twosugars
27-08-2019, 11:10 PM
I totally get where you are coming from Parmy...it’s more the fact that he is performing for adults that makes it an uncomfortable watch.
I know. And all those school plays where kids perform for adults. Someone should notify the authorities
Cherie
28-08-2019, 06:51 AM
Gypsy comment was directed at me...and at no point have I said the lad dancing and dressing up is wrong..
His audience is the wrong part...hope that clears it up. .Im off to work today.
most of us know what you meant, there is a big difference between performing at a function, or school play or BGT and performing in a pub, I presume those saying this is absolutely fine would have no issue if this was an 11 year old girl which I find a bit odd tbf
Cherie
28-08-2019, 07:23 AM
Bc boys dressing up as girls is gay, Alfred :omgno: and leads to moral corruption D:
that's such a stretch and not the point that was being made at all :bored:
..I agree bots that the comment was not helpful/was unnecessary...it is though quite interesting that the audience in the vid who are appreciating the drag performance obviously also ‘hold a different opinion’...in that this is an act that they’re very much appreciating...not for any ‘lewd’ reasons, we can’t assume that because nothing in the vid suggests that...the performer is dressed completely age appropriately and the act is age appropriate also...the money being handed was the only thing that could have been questioned..?...but that is a traditional thing with drag acts, to show appreciation for stage acts that are not generally known as being highly paid...Ru Paul ladies are obviously an exception, but not ‘the norm’...
...there is nothing in the vid/in the performance/in the reaction to the performance and the appreciation of it by the mixed gender audience...that would suggest anything other than a difference of opinion to those who feel an inappropriate in some way for appreciating this act...
Niamh.
28-08-2019, 07:41 AM
it's not as bad as the op makes out but its still ****ing weird I'm sorry :/I agree, cant believe people are saying it isn't tbh
Kazanne
28-08-2019, 10:29 AM
I agree, cant believe people are saying it isn't tbh
This^ it's weird.
Niamh.
28-08-2019, 10:40 AM
Just to the people implying (or directly saying) that it's homophobic to think this is a bit weird and inappropriate, I would find it equally off if it were an 11 year old girl all make up-upped in a bar performing to adults and getting dollar bills thrown at them. Like one of those weird ass pageants :shrug:
Also, is it a requirement for drag queens to be gay? Maybe most are but are all?
AnnieK
28-08-2019, 10:46 AM
I'm really torn about this. On one hand I am all for kids being able to express themselves how they want and be able to showcase their talents. On the other hand, an adult bar is possibly not the place for an 11 year old to be. I know I wouldn't allow my son to perform in a bar at that age to an adult only crowd. If it were a family night or similar it would be different.
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 02:15 PM
If it was an 11 year old girl dancing and grown men throwing dollar bills at her it’d be unacceptable.
No, it wouldn't.
rusticgal
28-08-2019, 05:30 PM
I know. And all those school plays where kids perform for adults. Someone should notify the authorities
Of course...that looks just like a school performance :laugh:
Twosugars
28-08-2019, 05:33 PM
Of course...that looks just like a school performance :laugh:
You'd be surprised
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 07:08 PM
Of course...that looks just like a school performance :laugh:
A fully clothed child dancing to pop music, an audience full of adults. Yep, I agree.
Braden
28-08-2019, 07:30 PM
I don't think any 11-year-old should be having dollar bills thrown at them, tbh.
I'm relieved I'm not the only person that thinks this is wierd.
Glenn.
28-08-2019, 07:32 PM
You’re the one that implied it was sexualised. That’s weird.
You’re the one that implied it was sexualised. That’s weird.
It is..
In my head. .but I will ask you a serious question...
One I don't know..
Will that 11 yr old boy be seeing himself as a boy or a girl in his 11 yr old head?
Day to day?
And also during that performance?
Glenn.
28-08-2019, 07:45 PM
It is..
In my head. .but I will ask you a serious question...
One I don't know..
Will that 11 yr old boy be seeing himself as a boy or a girl in his 11 yr old head?
Day to day?
And also during that performance?
What the hell would it matter? Why are you so hung up on it?
What the hell would it matter? Why are you so hung up on it?
7 pages I can't just drop it now fgs..
It matters a lot..his mental state..to me anyway, I'm not that hung up about people's rights or whatever term it is these days...but his head must be screwed up atm...
So it's a genuine question from a man that doesn't know what may be going through his head.
Glenn.
28-08-2019, 07:50 PM
7 pages I can't just drop it now fgs..
It matters a lot..his mental state..to me anyway, I'm not that hung up about people's rights or whatever term it is these days...but his head must be screwed up atm...
So it's a genuine question from a man that doesn't know what may be going through his head.
I think you should just stop. You’re coming across as extremely homophobic now
I think you should just stop. You’re coming across as extremely homophobic now
If I think that this kid could be exploited I will bloody mention it...and try and work out in my head how he is being exploited..so it matters a great deal to me what is going through an 11yr old kids head...in a bar full of cheering adults. Cheering louder as the 2 items that were covering up that 11 yr old childs body shape were removed..encouraging his performance by shoving him doller bills...
You call me wierd etc etc...have you looked in the mirror lately.
:shrug:
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 08:02 PM
7 pages I can't just drop it now fgs..
It matters a lot..his mental state..to me anyway, I'm not that hung up about people's rights or whatever term it is these days...but his head must be screwed up atm...
So it's a genuine question from a man that doesn't know what may be going through his head.
Your response to a drag act is that he must be screwed up?
Glenn.
28-08-2019, 08:09 PM
If I think that this kid could be exploited I will bloody mention it...and try and work out in my head how he is being exploited..so it matters a great deal to me what is going through an 11yr old kids head...in a bar full of cheering adults. Cheering louder as the 2 items that were covering up that 11 yr old childs body shape were removed..encouraging his performance by shoving him doller bills...
You call me wierd etc etc...have you looked in the mirror lately.
:shrug:
You didn’t respond to my post. Firstly you spend half a dozen pages on some crusade against a crowd full of people, who were there encouraging a young person as he performs on stage. Something you immediately and unnecessarily sexualised. Secondly and if I might add, finally, revealed you’re exact reasoning as to why you’re so annoyed by the video. For someone to imply anyone that performs drag has mental issues is abhorrent.
Toy Soldier
28-08-2019, 08:10 PM
Ahhhhh I'm going to have to come out of left field on this one and say that I can see where Parm is coming from.
I don't think he's being exploited or that any of the adults there are likely to be looking at the kid "in the wrong way" - however, having given it some consideration, yeah I do think 11 is too young for this type of show. If there were other kids there it would be a bit different, but IMO it seems like a very clearly adult environment and at the very least, I guess, I'd have some questions befoe declaring this 100% fine. Shrug.
Your response to a drag act is that he must be screwed up?
The audience looks happier than he does
sleleen
28-08-2019, 08:55 PM
Anyways how tf did you find this when it was uploaded like 2 years ago.....
You didn’t respond to my post. Firstly you spend half a dozen pages on some crusade against a crowd full of people, who were there encouraging a young person as he performs on stage. Something you immediately and unnecessarily sexualised. Secondly and if I might add, finally, revealed you’re exact reasoning as to why you’re so annoyed by the video. For someone to imply anyone that performs drag has mental issues is abhorrent.
Once this kids brain is fully formed...you may then come back and make that poorly thought out assumption of me....Im assuming you won't apologise when he's ****ed up at 18.
Anyways how tf did you find this when it was uploaded like 2 years ago.....
Read the whole thread.x
Glenn.
28-08-2019, 08:59 PM
Once this kids brain is fully formed...you may then come back and make that poorly thought out assumption of me....Im assuming you won't apologise when he's ****ed up at 18.
He’s 11. I’m pretty sure he’s growing to be an outstanding member of society.
This is America after all
A place where we have the trump stories..the Clinton stories...the eipstien story...the whatever that fat bearded sleezy producer is called story...etc etc...
Yet here we have, an 11yr old drag kid being taken round the circuit by showbiz drag acts....and I'm not supposed to be alarmed in the slightest...
Glenn.
28-08-2019, 09:03 PM
I’m pretty certain you have more of a problem with the drag side of it than anything else tbh. Implying he doesn’t know what he’s doing because he’s 11 is piss poor and idiotic.
I’m pretty certain you have more of a problem with the drag side of it than anything else tbh. Implying he doesn’t know what he’s doing because he’s 11 is piss poor and idiotic.
You ain't even took a 2nd thought about his immature and not fully formed brain yet. ..judge away all you want..I only care about this poor kids well being.
Glenn.
28-08-2019, 09:25 PM
Sure you do.
Sure you do.
I nearly bit...I nearly accused you of having a as you post.
Cherie
28-08-2019, 09:28 PM
I nearly bit...I nearly accused you of having a as you post.
dont bite, go squash a grape
Twosugars
28-08-2019, 09:31 PM
Maybe a nice conversion therapy for the kid? To teach him wearing dresses is for girls? Force him to play football or something :laugh:
Maybe a nice conversion therapy for the kid? To teach him wearing dresses is for girls? Force him to play football or something :laugh:
Or just have kids on the audience?
Seeing as that's the audience he wants to reach out to!
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 09:33 PM
The audience looks happier than he does
So your issue comes to light.
Not with the bar/adult venue. But with a boy doing a drag act.
At least you've omitted the veil now.
So your issue comes to light.
Not with the bar/adult venue. But with a boy doing a drag act.
At least you've omitted the veil now.
See the post above your latest assumption.
Cherie
28-08-2019, 09:34 PM
Maybe a nice conversion therapy for the kid? To teach him wearing dresses is for girls? Force him to play football or something :laugh:
I couldn't care less what he is wearing, its the adult environment that is more of a concern, and I still hold the view if this was an 11 year old girl strutting her stuff in front of an adult audience I would be saying the same, would you hold the same view though?
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 09:35 PM
Poor little sod. He'll end up needing years of therapy from all that flying money.
Poor little sod. He'll end up needing years of therapy from all that flying money.
That one video has thrust him into the limelight...in america..
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 09:39 PM
That one video has thrust him into the limelight...in america..
Has it?
That video is years old and I've never heard of him or it until this thread was posted.
Twosugars
28-08-2019, 09:40 PM
I couldn't care less what he is wearing, its the adult environment that is more of a concern, and I still hold the view if this was an 11 year old girl strutting her stuff in front of an adult audience I would be saying the same, would you hold the same view though?
Have you watched this ch4 series about drag and how it helps people? I recommend it.
It is an innocent performance so I'd have no problem.
I bet you watched kids performing for adults at school or bgt?
Has it?
That video is years old and I've never heard of him or it until this thread was posted.
He is currently being paraded by famous drag acts for thier own gain to an adult audience...when all this kid wants to do is reach out to other drag kids.
Perhaps, like I have mentioned...a younger audience of like minded children would be more suitable for him to be showing of his skills to.:shrug:
rusticgal
28-08-2019, 09:42 PM
I couldn't care less what he is wearing, its the adult environment that is more of a concern, and I still hold the view if this was an 11 year old girl strutting her stuff in front of an adult audience I would be saying the same, would you hold the same view though?
Exactly...but sadly some people will not see the realism and make it a reason to twist the situation to meet their own agenda.
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 09:44 PM
He is currently being paraded by famous drag acts for thier own gain to an adult audience...when all this kid wants to do is reach out to other drag kids.
Perhaps, like I have mentioned...a younger audience of like minded children would be more suitable for him to be showing of his skills to.:shrug:
So, now you pretend to know what this kid wants, and know he's being forced to do things he's unhappy/uncomfortable with?
I'm sure you've done plenty research.
Jordan.
28-08-2019, 09:45 PM
This is America after all
A place where we have the trump stories..the Clinton stories...the eipstien story...the whatever that fat bearded sleezy producer is called story...etc etc...
Yet here we have, an 11yr old drag kid being taken round the circuit by showbiz drag acts....and I'm not supposed to be alarmed in the slightest...
the same country holding kids in cages but trust it to be a young drag act to bring out the "think of the children" concern
So, now you pretend to know what this kid wants, and know he's being forced to do things he's unhappy/uncomfortable with?
I'm sure you've done plenty research.
Another snide dig..about research...poor Ammi. ..I hope she doesn't have to go through this for posting all the information that I read earlier in the thread.
Ps...I want to add right here right now.....I would feel worse about this lads health if he was surrounded by a bunch of suits.
rusticgal
28-08-2019, 09:48 PM
It looks like some charity fancy dress thing nothing remotely sexual.. :/
Come on get a grip parm :idc:
Charity fancy dress?..:laugh:
the same country holding kids in cages but trust it to be a young drag act to bring out the "think of the children" concern
Works both ways that though don't it..**** the USA. ..oh wait, no nothing untoward could possibly be going on.:shrug:
That charity fancy dress kate....has thrust this kid into the limelight.
But hey, that's showbizz
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 09:58 PM
Another snide dig..about research...poor Ammi. ..I hope she doesn't have to go through this for posting all the information that I read earlier in the thread.
Ps...I want to add right here right now.....I would feel worse about this lads health if he was surrounded by a bunch of suits.
It's not a snide dig Parm. You have a victim complex.
You are claiming to know all kinds of personal things about this boy and his mental state that you simply don't.
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 09:59 PM
Works both ways that though don't it..**** the USA. ..oh wait, no nothing untoward could possibly be going on.:shrug:
"Could."
"Possibly."
If everyone wasted time getting up in arms about everything that "could possibly" be going on there'd be no time to focus on the things that ARE ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
It's not a snide dig Parm. You have a victim complex.
You are claiming to know all kinds of personal things about this boy and his mental state that you simply don't.
You got to explain what "I'm sure you've done lots of research" meant then?
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 10:03 PM
You got to explain what "I'm sure you've done lots of research" meant then?
Into this boy and his mental health.
You must have to know all of these "facts" about his state of mind, his wants and what he's being forced into.
Into this boy and his mental health.
You must have to know all of these "facts" about his state of mind, his wants and what he's being forced into.
You say forced into..I think you are correct.
This boys target audience is drag kids..that is confirmed.
But here he is performing in front of adults..surely he feels bitter..:shrug:
That can't be good in his situation regarding the conflict his brain must be going through...not only to be gay and struggling with that..but to be, as you say forced, into becoming a prop in some famous drag acts show, when all he wants to do is promote drag kids to other kids, and show them it's ok to be yourself..he atm...is far from being himself.
In my opinion of course.
Glenn.
28-08-2019, 10:31 PM
He doesn’t appear to be experiencing any conflict with his sexuality. Not every gay person does and I think the fact at such a young age,(if he is gay) he seems to be embracing rather than hiding it.
You do not know this person. Like you literally have no idea who this person is so to sit and dictate what he’s feeling and what he’s struggling with is a little foolish.
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 10:32 PM
You say forced into..I think you are correct.
This boys target audience is drag kids..that is confirmed.
But here he is performing in front of adults..surely he feels bitter..:shrug:
That can't be good in his situation regarding the conflict his brain must be going through...not only to be gay and struggling with that..but to be, as you say forced, into becoming a prop in some famous drag acts show, when all he wants to do is promote drag kids to other kids, and show them it's ok to be yourself..he atm...is far from being himself.
In my opinion of course.
Of course, in your opinion.
We can all have opinions about people we know nothing about, but those opinions will be meaningless and have no basis in fact.
He doesn’t appear to be experiencing any conflict with his sexuality. Not every gay person does and I think the fact at such a young age,(if he is gay) he seems to be embracing rather than hiding it.
You do not know this person. Like you literally have no idea who this person is so to sit and dictate what he’s feeling and what he’s struggling with is a little foolish.
Do we know trump. ..do we know Boris. ..do we know anyone we talk about.....NO.
We have an opinion...I make mine about the subject..you however. ..WELL..you don't. :joker:
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 10:34 PM
Do we know trump. ..do we know Boris. ..do we know anyone we talk about.....NO.
The stuff we talk about.... their jobs, yes we do. That's the whole point.
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 10:35 PM
You say forced into..I think you are correct.
This boys target audience is drag kids..that is confirmed.
But here he is performing in front of adults..surely he feels bitter..:shrug:
That can't be good in his situation regarding the conflict his brain must be going through...not only to be gay and struggling with that..but to be, as you say forced, into becoming a prop in some famous drag acts show, when all he wants to do is promote drag kids to other kids, and show them it's ok to be yourself..he atm...is far from being himself.
In my opinion of course.
He wants to promote drag to other kids and show them it's ok so he'll be bitter about being in a famous drag show and is not "being himself". Tying yourself in knots a bit tbh.
As for your insinuation he must be struggling with his sexuality :facepalm: Seems quite a confident kid to me, but whatever.
Of course, in your opinion.
We can all have opinions about people we know nothing about, but those opinions will be meaningless and have no basis in fact.
Isn't that why these places are called discussion forums:shrug:
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 10:36 PM
Isn't that why these places are called discussion forums:shrug:
To make quite insulting insinuations about an 11 year olds state of mind and sexuality based on nothing? No, Parm, it's not.
DouglasS
28-08-2019, 10:38 PM
No, it wouldn't.
It would...
Would be very weird and bizarre
He wants to promote drag to other kids and show them it's ok so he'll be bitter about being in a famous drag show and is not "being himself". Tying yourself in knots a bit tbh.
As for your insinuation he must be struggling with his sexuality :facepalm: Seems quite a confident kid to me, but whatever.
Do you know many young lads hiding in fear from dressing up being taken to drag show's by thier parents?
That's his audience..the kids scared to cone out and be themselves..
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 10:43 PM
Do you know many young lads hiding in fear from dressing up being taken to drag show's by thier parents?
That's his audience..the kids scared to cone out and be themselves..
Tying yourself in knots Parm.
Many people in the world go through many things, you still know nothing about this boy's sexuality nor his mental state.
His pushy parents have sold him out already.
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 10:44 PM
So now he's hiding in fear, scared to dress up but is being dragged out by his parents unwillingly to dress up?
Ok Parm.
So now he's hiding in fear, scared to dress up but is being dragged out by his parents unwillingly to dress up?
Ok Parm.
He isn't hiding in fear fgs...but his target audience are...you know...kids afraid or maybe ashamed to be themselves...the target audience he seems to be being deprived from reaching out directly to.
Glenn.
28-08-2019, 10:48 PM
Do we know trump. ..do we know Boris. ..do we know anyone we talk about.....NO.
We have an opinion...I make mine about the subject..you however. ..WELL..you don't. :joker:
Well we know far more about Trump and Boris than we do if this child. Not really sure the point you’re getting at with that one. You seem to be reaching.
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 10:48 PM
He isn't hiding in fear fgs...but his target audience are...you know...kids afraid or maybe ashamed to be themselves...the target audience he seems to be being deprived from reaching out directly to.
He's performing in famous drag shows and is in the public eye (apparently) therefore his target audience will grow.
But, apparently he hates it, you told me.
He's performing in famous drag shows and is in the public eye (apparently) therefore his target audience will grow.
But, apparently he hates it, you told me.
He's sold out then..sold out already..corrupted by fame.
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 10:55 PM
He's sold out then..sold out already..corrupted by fame.
If he wants to give these other kids a good role model, fame is kind of a requirement. Otherwise no one's going to see him.
If he wants to give these other kids a good role model, fame is kind of a requirement. Otherwise no one's going to see him.
If he wants to give these kids a good role model the live audience needs to step aside and let kids enjoy the entertainment.:conf:
Marsh.
28-08-2019, 11:19 PM
If he wants to give these kids a good role model the live audience needs to step aside and let kids enjoy the entertainment.:conf:
I'm sure your expertise on drag artistry and inspiring little drag kids will be invaluable to him.
Twosugars
28-08-2019, 11:40 PM
You say forced into..I think you are correct.
This boys target audience is drag kids..that is confirmed.
But here he is performing in front of adults..surely he feels bitter..:shrug:
That can't be good in his situation regarding the conflict his brain must be going through...not only to be gay and struggling with that..but to be, as you say forced, into becoming a prop in some famous drag acts show, when all he wants to do is promote drag kids to other kids, and show them it's ok to be yourself..he atm...is far from being himself.
In my opinion of course.
What do you know about being gay anyway to make such statements?
What conflict in his brain?
The only " conflict" gays experience is between being yourself and being ostracized by some around them or pretending to be someone else to please some people while being unhappy inside.
Luckily for this kid he benefits from increased acceptance fought for by those before him. And he feels confident to be who he is. If he wants to do drag from young age he can and he does.
Drag is not about sex fyi. It is a performance art. It is not burlesque.
Gstar
28-08-2019, 11:49 PM
Hope that's a joke
It's not :shrug:
I'm sure your expertise on drag artistry and inspiring little drag kids will be invaluable to him.
Oh yes..I'm sure he is reading every word each and every one of us has written..he lives for tibb that kid.
A) This is not a sexual dance
B) What's wrong with supporting a young boy living out his dream?
1.you don't get me.
2. This is not a sexual dance this is a young kid having fun, like we all did in front of the mirror with a hairbrush.
3.can't video at schools these days without a signed of slip.
4.it's a bar
5.adults
6.pedo reading to kids in usa library
7.very poor checks on readers can only mean no checks on audience.
8.now being taken away so far from that original performance, that his head is spinning.
9.by established and seriously advantaged members of the new celeb circuit.
10.who do we blame.
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