Trump's promise to foreign leader - trouble ahead

[GiRTh]

joking aside, this is really good. Ambassador Taylor is very credible and.....he took notes in every meeting. Cant see how Donnie attacks him TBH :shrug:

[GiRTh]

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bill taylor testified today that he just recently learned that a member of his staff overhead a july 26th phone call between donald trump and gordon sondland. After that phone call, sondland told the staffer that trump “cares more about the investigations of biden” than the cares about ukraine.

[GiRTh]

That GOP lawyers was terrible. Trying to throw mud at the Bidens, peddling more conspiracy theories and asking about things the witness cant possibly know.

Round one - Big for the Dems.

[Twosugars]

Where are you watching Girth? CNN?

[GiRTh]

Yep.

GOP only have Jordan shouting and throwing mud. They've got nothing.

EDIT: Its on BBC parliament too.

[arista]

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[GiRTh]

1194989301433536515Fox are really struggling to spin this.

Kent was probably even more impressive than Ambassador Taylor IMO. IT was amazing the way he had such recall of dates and events to the point where he was correcting the GOP smearers on what date things happened.

[GiRTh]

Is anyone watching?

Yovanovitch is testifying and Donnies on twitter attacking her. :laugh:

[bots]

Is anyone watching?

Yovanovitch is testifying and Donnies on twitter attacking her. :laugh:

i can't stand listening to the gop so i avoid the live stuff

[The Slim Reaper]

Is anyone watching?

Yovanovitch is testifying and Donnies on twitter attacking her. :laugh:

She's another great witness. I look forward to Nunes moaning about some insane conspiracy theory, or Jim Jordan, who allowed sexual assault to take place in ohio state university, to screech about the process.

[GiRTh]

i can't stand listening to the gop so i avoid the live stuffThose are the best bits. :laugh:

All trying to get a vid on Fox News tonight. The desperation is real.:laugh:

[GiRTh]

She's another great witness. I look forward to Nunes moaning about some insane conspiracy theory, or Jim Jordan, who allowed sexual assault to take place in ohio state university, to screech about the process.Jordan a clown. To fake such outrage at the process while we all know his dodgy history. Astonishingly hypocritical tw@t

[Ammi]

...where are you watching this...is this live on Fox News, Girth...?..

[The Slim Reaper]

...where are you watching this...is this live on Fox News, Girth...?..

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-live-trump-impeachment-inquiry-hearings-73286213870

Or it's on the parliamentary channel I believe.

It's a break at the moment as they have votes on other issues to take. Should be back on in an hour or so.

[GiRTh]

...where are you watching this...is this live on Fox News, Girth...?..
Its on Sky news live.

[GiRTh]

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-live-trump-impeachment-inquiry-hearings-73286213870

Or it's on the parliamentary channel I believe.This too.

[GiRTh]

Hannity Predicts Marie Yovanovitch Will Cry ‘on Cue’ at Hearing (https://www.thedailybeast.com/sean-hannity-predicts-marie-yovanovitch-will-cry-on-cue-at-hearing)

Just wow!!!!!

We know the GOP have no actual tactic but even for them this is low.

[The Slim Reaper]

Its on Sky news HD live.

Fixed for Arista.

[The Slim Reaper]

Hannity Predicts Marie Yovanovitch Will Cry ‘on Cue’ at Hearing (https://www.thedailybeast.com/sean-hannity-predicts-marie-yovanovitch-will-cry-on-cue-at-hearing)

Just wow!!!!!

We know the GOP have no actual tactic but even for them this is low.

A slanderous libelous lie, but not pursuing any legal action against her.

[GiRTh]

A slanderous libelous lie, but not pursuing any legal action against her.XlJrFQz_fzE

:laugh:

Thankfully, we can prove he was the one who promoted the story that she was working against foreign policy.

[The Slim Reaper]

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:laugh:

Thankfully, we can prove he was the one who promoted the story that she was working against foreign policy.

I always wonder about these people and whether they actually believe their own conspiracies and lies, or whether they're just protecting their paychecks.

[GiRTh]

I always wonder about these people and whether they actually believe their own conspiracies and lies, or whether they're just protecting their paychecks.Bit of both probably. They're all caught up in the moment and think history wont show their role in this fiasco.

[bots]

Roger Stone has just been convicted on all counts of lying to Congress, obstruction and witness tampering. :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

Roger Stone has just been convicted on all counts of lying to Congress, obstruction and witness tampering. :laugh:

No way, I was sure he was innocent :laugh: Did they say when his sentencing hearing will take place?

[GiRTh]

Roger Stone has just been convicted on all counts of lying to Congress, obstruction and witness tampering. :laugh::dance::dance:

[The Slim Reaper]

Good thread:

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[GiRTh]

Nearly back. I cant wait for Jim Jordans stunt. Surely it'll be in this segment, he must be itching to get his FOX news clip

[The Slim Reaper]

Nearly back. I cant wait for Jim Jordans stunt. Surely it'll be in this segment, he must be itching to get his FOX news clip

*Gym Jordan :smug:

[bots]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Not really a fan of Pelosi, but she nails this.

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[bots]

Trump went for an unscheduled medical check yesterday, sounds like the stress is having an effect

[GiRTh]

Trump went for an unscheduled medical check yesterday, sounds like the stress is having an effectHe must be exhausted. On the attack every day, attacking Yovanaovitch while she's testifying, attacking the whistle blower and Pelosi and Schiff and anyone who dares to say anything negative. Its attack after attack so I'm not surprised he needs medical help.

[GiRTh]

1196155347117002752Trump attacks Vice Presidents aide who's going to testify tomorrow. He's attacked both women testifying, none of the men.

So far no word from VP Mike Pence defending his aide.

[The Slim Reaper]

1196155347117002752Trump attacks Vice Presidents aide who's going to testify tomorrow. He's attacked both women testifying, none of the men.

So far no word from VP Mike Pence defending his aide.

He's in danger of being replaced by Nikki Haley, so he definitely won't speak in her defence now.

[Twosugars]

Impeachment inquiry is examining whether he lied to Mueller investigation

[The Slim Reaper]

He did

[GiRTh]

He's in danger of being replaced by Nikki Haley, so he definitely won't speak in her defence now.I bet there was time when Pence actually thought he had a shot at the White House and Trump would either be impeached out or they'd invoke the 25th. I remember there was much speculation that the 'Anonymous' writing for the NYTimes was a top Pence aide or Pence himself. So sweet to see his shot at power gradually fade, he's even more scary than Trump IMO

Agree he wont say anything, far too much to lose.

[Twosugars]

He did

:omgno: well, I never...

[GiRTh]

In writing too :laugh:

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Another witness attacked while testifying.

Great display from Vindman today. Reps tried to smear him and i think he shook a couple of times but came out of it looking far more patriotic than Jordan, Nunes et al.

[GiRTh]

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Line of the day

[bots]

i thought it was pretty damning testimony. It all builds up to an overwhelming picture

[GiRTh]

It does.. Its not done yet though, two more just turned up. Volker and Morrison this afternoon.

That quote from the White House comes from Morrison yet my understanding is that Morrison is going to be highly critical of Trump. Why post that quote in morning when the same guy is gonna trash Donnie in the afternoon. Confirmed - GOP has not strategy.

[bots]

Sondlands testimony is pure gold ... all was done at the express direction of the president

“Secretary Perry, Ambassador Volker and I worked with Mr. Rudy Giuliani on Ukraine matters at the express direction of the President of the United States,” Sondland said. “We did not want to work with Mr. Giuliani. Simply put, we played the hand we were dealt. We all understood that if we refused to work with Mr. Giuliani, we would lose an important opportunity to cement relations between the United States and Ukraine. So we followed the President’s orders.”

“Mr. Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for President Zelensky,” Sondland’s statement says. “Mr. Giuliani demanded that Ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election/DNC server and Burisma. Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the President of the United States, and we knew that these investigations were important to the President.”

[Kizzy]

Why can't we have whistle-blowers and impeachment? :bawling:

[GiRTh]

Sondlands testimony is pure gold ... all was done at the express direction of the president

“Secretary Perry, Ambassador Volker and I worked with Mr. Rudy Giuliani on Ukraine matters at the express direction of the President of the United States,” Sondland said. “We did not want to work with Mr. Giuliani. Simply put, we played the hand we were dealt. We all understood that if we refused to work with Mr. Giuliani, we would lose an important opportunity to cement relations between the United States and Ukraine. So we followed the President’s orders.”

“Mr. Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for President Zelensky,” Sondland’s statement says. “Mr. Giuliani demanded that Ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election/DNC server and Burisma. Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the President of the United States, and we knew that these investigations were important to the President.”Guiliani thrown under the bus. Yesterday Volker was walking a very fine line between not lying and putting everything on Rudy. Volker was quite slippery but he did say the allegations against Biden are nonsense.

Surely Rudy's gonna try and clear his name or he's going to be facing charges

[Kizzy]

I'm sure I read he has some 'insurance' that protected him... he said it in a very 'goodfellas' way too... oh dear donnie.

[GiRTh]

I'm sure I read he has some 'insurance' that protected him... he said it in a very 'goodfellas' way too... oh dear donnie.
He's said it a few times but knowing Rudy he's probably lying. :laugh: If he's got the goods on Trump I hope he spills but I think he'd have done so already if he truly has a defense.

If all implicated think they're getting a pardon, think again. This will drag on so long Trump will probably be out of office and on similar charges

[Ammi]

...wow, this is real grown up stuff ...Ambassador Sondland is mesmerising...

[Ammi]

...why do people of their standing, communicate official stuff on WhatsApp groups..?...

[Twosugars]

Wonder if donnie's fat tissue is also orange? :think:

[GiRTh]

...why do people of their standing, communicate official stuff on WhatsApp groups..?...
Good question. They're the keystones cops of Ambassadors. :laugh:

[Ammi]

...’everyone knows the President likes to use colourful language..’...:laugh:..

[The Slim Reaper]

...wow, this is real grown up stuff ...Ambassador Sondland is mesmerising...

wring yer knickers out, you hussy

[bots]

i wouldn't trust Sondland at all, but he is an appointee that Trump personally employed ... think he will be next on the .... "don't know him" list :laugh:

[Twosugars]

wring yer knickers out, you hussy

Ammi has a baldie fetish :shocked:

[GiRTh]

i wouldn't trust Sondland at all, but he is an appointee that Trump personally employed ... think he will be next on the .... "don't know him" list :laugh:
Donnies already said he only met Sondland a 'few times'. :laugh:

Sondland seems like he doesnt care. He could have not testified at all or pleaded the fifth but instead he's dragging them all under the bu with him. He's said everyone was in the loop so that must include VP Pence and SoS Pompeo. They need to respond. It also means Volker may have lied yesterday.

[The Slim Reaper]

Donnies already said he only met Sondland a 'few times'. :laugh:

Sondland seems like he doesnt care. He could have not testified at all or pleaded the fifth but instead he's dragging them all under the bu with him. He's said everyone was in the loop so that must include VP Pence and SoS Pompeo. They need to respond. It also means Volker may have lied yesterday.

He had to testify, because his previous deposition has been debunked in areas, so he'd be at risk of perjuring himself.

This is the best comedy I've seen in a while though.

[Ammi]

..I think the report was that Pompeo is going to make a statement from Brussels in the next hour...?..

[The Slim Reaper]

..I think the report was that Pompeo is going to make a statement from Brussels in the next hour...?..

He wants to resign and go back to the senate, so wouldn't be surprised if its do with that. He's going to have a tough ride getting back to the senate after this investigation is all over.

[GiRTh]

He had to testify, because his previous deposition has been debunked in areas, so he'd be at risk of perjuring himself.

This is the best comedy I've seen in a while though.True, there was speculation that it'd be pure theater today and Sondland would refuse to answer almost all the questions, would be constantly talking to his lawyer and was only going to clear up the edited part of his previous testimony. Not at all, he's up there chatting away. I wasnt expecting this at all. He doesnt care who he implicates.

[The Slim Reaper]

Republicans don't want to talk about his testimony, it's all about 2016 and the steele dossier that was actually started by trumps rivals in the republican primary campaign.

[The Slim Reaper]

True, there was speculation that it'd be pure theater today and Sondland would refuse to answer almost all the questions, would be constantly talking to his lawyer and was only going to clear up the edited part of his testimony. Not at all, he's up there chatting away. I wasnt expecting this at all. He doesnt care who he implicates.

It's getting to the stage, where if you're not implicating others you're going to be the one implicated. People will get more desperate the more damning this gets.

[Ammi]

It's getting to the stage, where if you're not implicating others you're going to be the one implicated. People will get more desperate the more damning this gets.

...like a house of cards scenario..if they tumble, they’ll tumble together..?..

[GiRTh]

It's getting to the stage, where if you're not implicating others you're going to be the one implicated. People will get more desperate the more damning this gets.
Hope you're right. The bigger the cluster****** the better, hope they all fall. Sondland will be mercilessly attacked on Fox now and for the foreseeable future. I feel for him cuz it'll be brutal.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[GiRTh]

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[GiRTh]

1197205261297082372Rudy trying to stand tall.

Looks like no one knew Sondland even though he donated a million to Trumps inauguration campaign. :think:

[GiRTh]

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[Twosugars]

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:laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

Holmes and hill are killing him and republican conspiracy theories on ukraine today!

[The Slim Reaper]

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[GiRTh]

Holmes and hill are killing him and republican conspiracy theories on ukraine today!Both are really impressive .

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Ammi]

...excuse me...it didn’t cut me off the other days to show me the world’s temperature maps...:laugh:..Dr Hill sounds quite impressive...

[Ammi]

Both are really impressive .

...oh..what Girth said, even...

[Ammi]

...oh it’s because they’re all having a coffee break or something...I’ll calm down...

[arista]

Then when all this wasted watching
is done.

It goes to the Senate
Trumps stays in office

Meanwhile a Election in USA is meant
to be going on............

[Ammi]

..that’s a lot of ellipsis to use at the end of a sentence, Arista...it looks a bit messy, darling...

[Twosugars]

Then when all this wasted watching
is done.

It goes to the Senate
Trumps stays in office

Meanwhile a Election in USA is meant
to be going on................................................ ...

You dont know that.

[The Slim Reaper]

Then when all this wasted watching
is done.

It goes to the Senate
Trumps stays in office

Meanwhile a Election in USA is meant
to be going on................................................ ...

Those senators have to justify re-election when they've just acquitted the president of a crime that's been proved.

GOP just lost governorships in Louisiana and Kentucky, so a lot of those senators will be in winnable seats.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Kizzy]

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:joker::joker::joker:

I miss morrisey :bawling:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Then when all this wasted watching
is done.

It goes to the Senate
Trumps stays in office

Meanwhile a Election in USA is meant
to be going on............

quite right Arista, not even making small news in the UK

[bots]

Fiona Hill is a very credible witness

[GiRTh]

Jordan is embarrasing

[GiRTh]

Fiona Hill is killing it. Awesome witness.

[GiRTh]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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Kevin M Kruse is a great historian, and worth a follow if you don't already follow him.

[GiRTh]

Kevin M Kruse is a great historian, and worth a follow if you don't already follow him.Thanks man, I'll give him a sub. :hee:

[GiRTh]

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[Twosugars]

Fiona Hill was great.
Pity UK lost her.

“I grew up poor, with a very distinctive working-class accent,” she told the House intelligence committee in that same accent, somewhat softened now by her years in the US. “In England in the 1980s and 1990s, this would have impeded my professional advancement. This background has never set me back in America.”

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Ammi]

...:laugh:..Monty in Florida not a Donald fan..?...

[GiRTh]

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[Ammi]

..the Donald has been invited to either attend the impeachment hearing next week or ‘stop complaining’...:laugh:...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50567994

[GiRTh]

YTmRhAHXzUwDonnie throws Rudy under the bus. It looks like Rudy was trying to make a little money while setting up the alternate foreign policies.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

Process of impeachment has moved to next stage,
Pelosi says

https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-process-of-impeachment-has-moved-to-next-stage-pelosi-says-11878824


Trump says Bring it on.

[Kizzy]

Process of impeachment has moved to next stage,
Pelosi says

https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-process-of-impeachment-has-moved-to-next-stage-pelosi-says-11878824


Trump says Bring it on.

That's prob why he stomped home early from the nato party...Nothing to do with Justin

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELSj32uXkAMZQDN?format=jpg&name=small
Eric & mates standing with the President
(we are working to uphold the Constitution and keep you accountable. )


In the Senate he will be cleared.....

This could all help his Election.