The Conservative Party Conference Manchester

[arista]

Set to start on Saturday.

Extra Security needed.
Manchester

[Twosugars]

Let the ****show begin!

[arista]

Reports have said
Johnson PM speech is due Monday Or Tuesday
in Manchester.

Then he should be back for Weds PMQ's
next week

[Kazanne]

Reports have said
Johnson PM speech is due Monday Or Tuesday
in Manchester.

Then he should be back for Weds PMQ's
next week

Looking forward to this one arista.

[Kizzy]

As if they tried to shut parliament again for it! :joker:

[arista]

As if they tried to shut parliament again for it! :joker:



Yes that had a vote
but lost it by 17 votes

[Oliver_W]

As if they tried to shut parliament again for it! :joker:

To be fair the Tories are the ruling party, there's not a great deal of point in having Parliament open when they're not even there.

[joeysteele]

Considering the Party conferences usually start on a Saturday or Sunday now.
Rather than through a whole week like they used to.

I don't see why Parliament needs to not be sitting during Party conferences now, having just got back a few weeks from the Summer recess.

[Kizzy]

To be fair the Tories are the ruling party, there's not a great deal of point in having Parliament open when they're not even there.

No they are not they lost their majority, and with or without them there's plenty to discuss.

[Twosugars]

To be fair the Tories are the ruling party, there's not a great deal of point in having Parliament open when they're not even there.

Plenty of reasons.
Perfect time for opposition to seize the agenda

[arista]

No they are not they lost their majority, and with or without them there's plenty to discuss.


Sure Wise Kizzy
that's why they need a Election.
(once he can after the 31st Oct)


Change the Pack of Cards
it could wipe out so many
New LibDems,
Indie Party (Change UK ), Bad Labour,
Bad Conservative

[arista]

[The Conservatives head to Manchester for an unconventional party conference.
After opposition MPs vetoed plans for a conference recess,
the Tories will meet while parliament sits.
No 10 is bullish that it will not let opposition MPs ruin its moment.
Expect cars and helicopters on standby to ferry politicians at the last minute if a surprise vote is called.
With a working majority in the region of -40, Conservative MPs are fairly sanguine about the practicalities.
‘Frankly, it doesn’t matter if we are in London or Manchester. We can’t win votes even
if we are all in Westminster,’ says one cabinet minister. Ministers and MPs
are determined to use the conference to set out their agenda ahead of an
early election that they still expect to take place this year.]


https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/09/the-message-behind-this-years-conservative-party-conference/


Thank You for the Update
Clever Katy

[Kazanne]

I m liking thier new policies on animal welfare,should be a vote catcher
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/28/tory-green-agenda-criticised-lack-focus-climate-crisis-theresa-villiers-conference

Of course the opposition is there moaning about it, but anything to ease the suffering of animals is ok by me.

[arista]

I m liking thier new policies on animal welfare,should be a vote catcher
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/28/tory-green-agenda-criticised-lack-focus-climate-crisis-theresa-villiers-conference

Of course the opposition is there moaning about it, but anything to ease the suffering of animals is ok by me.


Yes that is Very Positive

[Twosugars]

I m liking thier new policies on animal welfare,should be a vote catcher
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/28/tory-green-agenda-criticised-lack-focus-climate-crisis-theresa-villiers-conference

Of course the opposition is there moaning about it, but anything to ease the suffering of animals is ok by me.

I agree. These proposals should be welcomed regardless of anything. A step in the right direction

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/09/768x432/skynews-conservative-party_4789058.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190928160910

[Twosugars]

Lol

[arista]

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[Kizzy]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/09/768x432/skynews-conservative-party_4789058.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190928160910

Oh is that the new soundbite who knew they've only said it a million times already...notice it's waaay more important than anything else :/

[arista]

Yesterday The PM arrived at his Hotel
in Manchester.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1178041130874748934/w2tDSuYO?format=jpg&name=small

[joeysteele]

The animal treatment is welcome.
Long overdue from any government and even as to other Countries.

I will be watching the conference.
Although even in my teens, when I leaned to the Cons.

This conference I found tedious of all the Parties.

The Lib Dems had moments.
Labour's was always more eventful.
The Cons more like a robotic stage show.

Who knows, Johnson may shine however as a funfair sideshow act.
Unless he uses the intelligence he has to finally just try to even look and sound, like a National and International Statesman.

Personally with all the conferences.
I'd rather they were held privately and the Parties then hold other conferences, where any voters or non voters attended, to challenge those making speeches.

Now that could be really interesting.

[arista]

Ridge on SkyNewsHD
is inside the Place Live

[arista]

"Personally with all the conferences."


Yes Joey
Trouble is we a going like USA
Both UK TV news Channels Jump on it

[joeysteele]

"Personally with all the conferences."


Yes Joey
Trouble is we a going like USA
Both UK TV news Channels Jump on it



Well with no hesitation from me, there's nothing I'd like to be going the way of the USA.

[bots]

i don't know how any party can promise anything regarding increased public spending when we have no idea if or how it could be funded after brexit

[arista]

i don't know how any party can promise anything regarding increased public spending when we have no idea if or how it could be funded after brexit

The PM is using future Taxes.
As his Guide

[Twosugars]

So they say that he had an affair with that American woman

She ****ed him for a grant
And he cheated on his wife, again

[bots]

The PM is using future Taxes.
As his Guide

yes, but if there is no tax to take in because the economy has shrunk to the size of a pea after brexit, he can't make any commitment. The economy will shrink after brexit, even the most ardent brexit supporters admit this, so how can increased spending be funded? Are the government going to borrow to fund it?

[arista]

yes, but if there is no tax to take in because the economy has shrunk to the size of a pea after brexit, he can't make any commitment. The economy will shrink after brexit, even the most ardent brexit supporters admit this, so how can increased spending be funded? Are the government going to borrow to fund it?



But More are in Work
so Tax will come in.


Shrink after Brexit - for a short time

[Twosugars]

But More are in Work
so Tax will cone in.


Shrink after Brexit - for a short time

Go into recession

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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The NHS is criminally understaffed by between 50-100k workers. Who is working in them in a post brexit, anti-immigrant Britain?

[AnnieK]

But More are in Work
so Tax will come in.


Shrink after Brexit - for a short time

And when the inevitable redundancies that will come on the back of brexit, there will be less in work and reliant on benefits....then what??

[The Slim Reaper]

And when the inevitable redundancies that will come on the back of brexit, there will be less in work and reliant on benefits....then what??

Added on to the fact that the tories will never seek a fair tax policy and ask the wealthy to contribute more. The only card they'll have to play at that stage, is a new wave of super charged austerity.

[joeysteele]

And when the inevitable redundancies that will come on the back of brexit, there will be less in work and reliant on benefits....then what??

With all the people in part time work and zero hours, who are then also rightly needing top ups to their incomes via benefits.

I doubt from these so called employment figures there's much tax collected there anyway.

Even before the devastation to come if there's a no deal brexit.

[arista]

The NHS is criminally understaffed by between 50-100k workers. Who is working in them in a post brexit, anti-immigrant Britain?


Yes
More International Nurses will be brought in.

[Oliver_W]

Added on to the fact that the tories will never seek a fair tax policy and ask the wealthy to contribute more. The only card they'll have to play at that stage, is a new wave of super charged austerity.

In a fair tax system, they do pay more - a flat tax rate is fair, as everyone pays the same percentage, and the rich would be contributing more because 20% of a big pie is more than 20% of a little pie.

[arista]

A Anti Conservative March
in Manchester has had to Halt
As Police keep them far away
from the Conservative Conference next to the tram line.

[The Slim Reaper]

In a fair tax system, they do pay more - a flat tax rate is fair, as everyone pays the same percentage, and the rich would be contributing more because 20% of a big pie is more than 20% of a little pie.

Even the current government realises you're wrong on this as it's not how the current tax system works. There is already a scale in place, it just stops way too early. Added to this, corporations are allowed to pay next to nothing despite profits in the billions, so this is where the real unfairness creeps in, not necessarily at the 20-100k range.

[arista]

For Two Sugars

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[The Slim Reaper]

Yes
More International Nurses will be brought in.

More bloody foreigners comin' over ere' stealin' our jobs? Why the outcry over the ones that are already here working in the NHS doing a fantastic job for us every day?

[Oliver_W]

Added to this, corporations are allowed to pay next to nothing despite profits in the billions, so this is where the real unfairness creeps in, not necessarily at the 20-100k range.

Eh, as long as they pay their employees it's hard to get too annoyed about that. I'd rather money be going into people's wallets than falling into the black hole of the tax system.

[The Slim Reaper]

Eh, as long as they pay their employees it's hard to get too annoyed about that. I'd rather money be going into people's wallets than falling into the black hole of the tax system.

They don't have a choice not to pay their employees, so that's done regardless. What a bizarre point. It's tax that helps to fund the things we need, it's not a black hole. Sorry dude, but that's just astoundingly ignorant.

[arista]

More bloody foreigners comin' over ere' stealin' our jobs? Why the outcry over the ones that are already here working in the NHS doing a fantastic job for us every day?



No Professional Workers
not lazy foreigners

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFkIOdlWwAEEXHL?format=jpg&name=small


The PM's Hotel
also Protected from the Plebs

[The Slim Reaper]

No Professional Workers
not lazy foreigners

Are porters lazy foreigners or professional workers? What about receptionists?

You do realise we already have the power to stop lazy foreigners coming over here without the ability to fund themselves? We can do that now, in the EU agreement we have.

[arista]

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[arista]

Its now Live on the Parliament Channel,

[Twosugars]

For Two Sugars

1178231261938274305

:laugh:

Thanks Arista, it's perfect

[arista]

Police have Pulled down a Anti Conservative Banner
on a Manchester Bridge

[arista]

Live On SkyNewsHD and BBCnewsHD
Michael Gove MP , Steve Barclay MP , Jacob Rees- Mogg MP

Brexit Debate

[arista]

Jacob is Laying into the Labour Party Problems
and LibDems.

[joeysteele]

Jacob is Laying into the Labour Party Problems
and LibDems.

Well I'd hardly expect him to be supporting them or their plans.

His own Party has enough problems .to deal with surely.

Still, it's what they all do but it's tiresome really from the lot of them,yes including Labour too.

[Ammi]

...this is why language is so important and can’t be excused or ignored, no matter which political party...

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/9UpsMyVJsXULgg15hUKdeA--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_independent_577/baedf74c473c70f07a85add6f62d1b0e


The mayor of Greater Manchester has condemned an "unacceptable" banner adorned with hanging effigies that blamed the Conservatives for 130,000 deaths.

As delegates arrived for the annual Tory conference in Manchester, protesters hung a banner from a bridge in Salford saying: "130,000 killed under Tory rule, time to level the playing field".

Andy Burnham, a former Labour cabinet minister and now mayor, said the sign was "completely unacceptable" and it was being removed.

Tory councillor Kerry Boyd spotted the offensive sign in Peel Park, on the river Irwell, as she went for a pre-conference run.

Ms Boyd, a councillor on Thanet District Council in Kent, said: "Never have I felt more apprehensive than seeing this in my morning run pre CPC19.


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/conservative-conference-anti-tory-banner-105000851.html

[arista]

Yes Ammi
The Police Removed that Banner

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Alf]

Jacob is Laying into the Labour Party Problems
and LibDems.Get em'Jakey boy.

[Alf]

1178272381804130304:laugh:

[joeysteele]

I have nothing but condemnation for posters like that.
I welcome Andy Burnham's words too.

It's wrong and unacceptable completely.

[joeysteele]

Does anyone else.
Not just here with the Conservatives but with all the Parties now.

I really groan when Labour does it too, it really annoys me.

At these false set ups, of 3 figures with a host taking staged set questions from supporters.

It riles me.
If they are going to do it, do it opened up, no stage managing, with anyone not just supporters.

Otherwise just make a speech.

They make it all appear to be so serious, yet it's totally false and in my view, thoroughly boring to watch.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFkmGYjW4AEeKwb?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

On Weds
Johnson PM is doing his Speech.
According to the BBC.

No doing PMQ's

[arista]

Another One For Twosugars

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFlY3XAXYAQRIPU?format=jpg&name=small

[Kizzy]

Neither do they atm it's just monopoly money theyre throwing around for show, and then as soon as they're in again BANG! another 10yrs of austerity and obese cats :/

[Twosugars]

Another One For Twosugars

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFlY3XAXYAQRIPU?format=jpg&name=small

:laugh:

Similarities cant be missed!

Thanks Arista:)

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/d4MBw8JwwbN-jLqErCA9nQ/https/media.fyre.co/kCeoPjSGKKAKuaLp4fAE_metro.JPG

[Twosugars]

Nigel Farage goes into a pub and asks for a pint of bitter. The barman draws the pint and throws it into Farage's face. 'Why did you do that?' 'You asked for a pint, but you didn't say how you wanted it delivered.' Farage wipes himself down and says, 'I'll have a pint in a pint glass.' 'No. You can't ask again.' 'Why not?' 'Democracy.'
.

[arista]

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https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/13562/production/_109020297_telep130.9.jpg

[Nicky91]

Jacob is Laying into the Labour Party Problems
and LibDems.

yes why look into your own party's problems, when you can criticize the opposition again :bored:

JacobTroll *cough*

[Alf]

yes why look into your own party's problems, when you can criticize the opposition again :bored:

JacobTroll *cough*"Nexit" is coming in the next decade.

Netherlands exit.

[Kazanne]

yes why look into your own party's problems, when you can criticize the opposition again :bored:

JacobTroll *cough*

:laugh: Like the opposition never do that :laugh: double *cough*

[Nicky91]

"Nexit" is coming in the next decade.

Netherlands exit.

hope not, at least that clown here Baudet's nexit idea got shoved away by the people, and lots of MPs leaving his right wing forum party

[arista]

Another for Twosugars
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFUSwj4WsAEPz1d?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Twosugars]

Double speak

[bots]

it's all knee bother to Boris

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFtXNLIXUAAFsZl?format=jpg&name=small

This is Madame Edwards
with her current man Peston.

No one Cares about 20 years ago
he did not make love to you.

Is this Reporter Edwards
wasting our bloody time?

[Kazanne]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFtXNLIXUAAFsZl?format=jpg&name=small

This is Madame Edwards
with her current man Peston.

No one Cares about 20 years ago
he did not make love to you.

Is this Reporter Edwards
wasting our bloody time?

Well the oher woman he is 'supposed' to have groped is Dominic Cummings wife and she has denied he groped her at all.:shrug: Plus Edwards has JUST got a new job with new newspaper,some are saying its to highlight her new column

[The Slim Reaper]

Why the rush to question her legitimacy? I don't know whether he did it, but if this was our my/your daughter, sister, niece, aunt, mother, then not one of us would suggest she's only doing it to further her career.

[arista]

Well the oher woman he is 'supposed' to have groped is Dominic Cummings wife and she has denied he groped her at all.:shrug: Plus Edwards has JUST got a new job with new newspaper,some are saying its to highlight her new column



If only she got a better Subject
for the Sunday Times.

[arista]

Meanwhile
In Westminster the other leaders (SNP /Green /Labour and others )
are in a meeting to Halt "No Deal"


3 of them are Live on SkyNewsHD

[arista]

Chancellor Javid is Live Now
in Manchester.

The PM it sitting in the Front Row watching him.


In Westminster Parliament is open
with Junior Conservative Ministers,
Meaning SNP and Labour

[Twosugars]

The main pre-conference spending pledge, presented as £13bn to build 40 new hospitals, fell apart after it emerged that the actual money committed so far, £3bn, would go to just six NHS trusts, which had plans already in place for hospitals in need of rebuilding.

Another 21 trusts would receive much smaller sums, but only to assist preparatory work for plans to take place almost a decade from now.
The Guardian

So they lied again

[Kazanne]

Why the rush to question her legitimacy? I don't know whether he did it, but if this was our my/your daughter, sister, niece, aunt, mother, then not one of us would suggest she's only doing it to further her career.

Well it's only whats been reported slim,there is no proof either way,it just seems to have come at a very dubious time don't you think ? and of course if it was our relation we would defend them ,that is of course if it happened . As much as people might not like him ,its not fair to claim these accusations IF they are not true, if they are,I am sure we will find out.:wavey:

[arista]

The main pre-conference spending pledge, presented as £13bn to build 40 new hospitals, fell apart after it emerged that the actual money committed so far, £3bn, would go to just six NHS trusts, which had plans already in place for hospitals in need of rebuilding.

Another 21 trusts would receive much smaller sums, but only to assist preparatory work for plans to take place almost a decade from now.
The Guardian

So they lied again


No the did say the First 6 are funded,
the rest are over the next 10 years

[Alf]

So Boris might or might not have touched a ladies leg in 1998, and this is the top story today?

As people said about Trudeau, that was 20 years ago, and he's seen the errors of his ways. Only we know with Trudeau that him Blacking up is a fact, this with Boris is not proven as a fact. Still, top story of the day, and on a Tory conference day of all times.

[arista]

Everyone over 21
will also get £10:50 a hour
Living Wage Rise

[arista]

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[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[Oliver_W]

How do you even remember someone touching your leg 20 years ago, let alone think it's significant enough to yak on about.

[arista]

Yes Dom is in the Conference
SkyNewsHD showed a Video of him

[Twosugars]

How do you even remember someone touching your leg 20 years ago, let alone think it's significant enough to yak on about.

He squeezed her tigh high up

It's an assault and you'd remember that easily
Trust me :rolleyes:

His behaviour with women is worth more attention
His serious infidelities, kids out of wedlock etc
He is a slime ball

[Twosugars]

Yes Dom is in the Conference
SkyNewsHD showed a Video of him

The sociopathic puppet master

[Twosugars]

No the did say the First 6 are funded,
the rest are over the next 10 years

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/sep/29/from-40-hospitals-to-six-tories-nhs-numbers-dont-add-up

[joeysteele]

Everyone over 21
will also get £10:50 a hour
Living Wage Rise

That's marginally better.

However I don't like the over 21 bit.
18 is the generally accepted age of being able to do anything legally and full adult age.

I think it wrong, anyone 19 or 20 doing the same work and job as an over 21 year old get paid less.
They should be paid the same in my view.

[Twosugars]

Over the weekend, Philip Hammond questioned the political connections of some hedge fund managers backing a no-deal Brexit, and the former permanent secretary to the Treasury Nick Macpherson argued the former chancellor was right to do so. Labour has been granted an urgent question in the House of Commons on the issue.
The Guardian


Always follow the money

[Twosugars]

A former cabinet minister is facing questions over his conduct after documents revealed he helped lobby for two firms he was paid to advise.

Owen Paterson, a former Conservative environment secretary and prominent Brexit supporter, took part in lobbying campaigns for the firms to promote their products.

Documents obtained by the Guardian reveal he had several meetings with officials and another with a minister. He also wrote asking them to take steps that would benefit the food manufacturer Lynn’s Country Foods and the healthcare firm Randox.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/30/revealed-owen-paterson-lobbied-for-firms-he-was-paid-to-advise



That swamp needs draining

[joeysteele]

I always try to avoid commenting on allegations such as this lady is stating now.

I never understand why adults don't object at the time it's supposed to have taken place.

I haven't a scrap of respect or liking towards Johnson.
However on this, I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Obviously it will be looked into but for me, after all this time.
Anyone can say anything like this about anyone.

It doesn't make it true.
It also doesn't make it false but you need more than just words in law.

[Kizzy]

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:worship:

[Twosugars]

A veteran of Boris Johnson’s political campaigns has resigned as a Downing Street political adviser as tensions rise between former Vote Leave members and ex-City Hall factions around No 10.

Alex Crowley, who worked on Johnson’s Tory leadership campaign, two mayoral campaigns and wrote a book about him, quit last week after just weeks in the prime minister’s political unit.

Crowley’s exit came as several sources with knowledge of No 10 suggested that there is an atmosphere of feuding inside Johnson’s administration.
The Guardian

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1177355110047002625/cqax8wGD?format=jpg&name=small

[Twosugars]

Who is the second guy in this cartoon?
Cummings first (uncanny likeness), then ? And bojo with arse for face and donnie withe ****ter for brains

[Kizzy]

Who is the second guy in this cartoon?
Cummings first (uncanny likeness), then ? And bojo with arse for face and donnie withe ****ter for brains

Think it's dominic raab 2s :)

[arista]

The PM is due to be Live on BBC1AM
at 7:45AM

[arista]

The PM Live

[Kazanne]

That was really unprofessional of GMTV this morning to interfere with his interview with the BBC.

[Kizzy]

'Johnson says the UK has agreed that there should be an all-island area in Ireland for agri-foods. This would mean*Northern Ireland*being bound by EU sanitary and phytosanitary rules. That is a big concession from the UK, he says.'

This is a quote from that interview this morning I found significant, essentially what he is proposing is the borders be pushed off Ireland entirely. ..meaning not that there won't be a border. .. there will still have to be one, it will be here instead.
Do I think that Johnson is doing this because he wants higher phytosanitary standards than the EU?.... No.

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/customs-controls/safety-health-environment-customs-controls/sanitary-phytosanitary-requirements_en

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/oct/01/brexit-latest-news-boris-johnson-conservative-conference-interviewed-as-ireland-dismisses-uk-border-plan-as-non-starter-live-news

[arista]

That was really unprofessional of GMTV this morning to interfere with his interview with the BBC.


On GMBHD itv
the BBC AM presenter Dan Walker
walked behind the the 2 Press men
and Waved.

No that was unprofessional

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[joeysteele]

The PM is due to be Live on BBC1AM
at 7:45AM

Well it was hardly worth waiting for.
Just more vague avoidance and pure waffle.

Sometimes I wonder if he really has any idea at all.

How I wish a presenter would press and ask if these 20,000 police officers are EXTRA to the thousands who will be retiring in the next 3 to 5 years.
Those still being replaced with these 20,000 being really added on top.

Doesn't seem like a question the government wants to clarify.

[arista]

Well it was hardly worth waiting for.
Just more vague avoidance and pure waffle.

Sometimes I wonder if he really has any idea at all.


He said he will not let out yet.

[joeysteele]

He said he will not let out yet.

Well that's all he's been saying since becoming PM.
No point in really interviewing him yet then.

[arista]

Well that's all he's been saying since becoming PM.
No point in really interviewing him yet then.


Yes On Brexit
no point in asking yet

[Kizzy]

He's going to do it again!! :/

(From the LBC interview)

Will you prorogue parliament again?
Johnson says, to have a Queen’s speech, it is necessary to prorogue. He says he will have to check the judgment to see what is possible, but he thinks prorogation is possible. He says there will be a Queen’s speech.

Johnson says Queen’s speech will go ahead.'

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/oct/01/brexit-latest-news-boris-johnson-conservative-conference-interviewed-as-ireland-dismisses-uk-border-plan-as-non-starter-live-news

[arista]

He's going to do it again!! :/

(From the LBC interview)

Will you prorogue parliament again?
Johnson says, to have a Queen’s speech, it is necessary to prorogue. He says he will have to check the judgment to see what is possible, but he thinks prorogation is possible. He says there will be a Queen’s speech.

Johnson says Queen’s speech will go ahead.'

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/oct/01/brexit-latest-news-boris-johnson-conservative-conference-interviewed-as-ireland-dismisses-uk-border-plan-as-non-starter-live-news


He has Every Right
so he can do his Queens speech

[joeysteele]

He has Every Right
so he can do his Queens speech

IF he's determined to have a general election at latest in November.
What on earth is the point of the pomp of a Queens speech, which will then be likely irrelevant by a general election possibly a week or a few weeks after it.

Especially when it's becoming unlikely he'll even get most, or all of any Queen's speech passed by this Parliament anyway.
.

[arista]

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[Kizzy]

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Right .that's going to be the next big news item 'reporter states that refusal to appear on GMTV will be stain on character'.... :/

What a joke though that these interviews were BBC and LBC... pffft! Coward!!

[arista]

Right .that's going to be the next big news item 'reporter states that refusal to appear on GMTV will be stain on character'.... :/

What a joke though that these interviews were BBC and LBC... pffft! Coward!!


No its The GMBHD itv
Lady producer who should have asked for a interview
yesterday


As Johnson did BBC1
then Radio 4
then LBC
all live
(al pre-booked)

[Kazanne]

No its The GMBHD itv
Lady producer who should have asked for a interview
yesterday


As Johnson did BBC1
then Radio 4
then LBC
all live
(al pre-booked)

Exactly arista , the way GMTV seem to think they are entitalled to his undivided attention , apparently he was walking towards them but his crew pointed him in a different direction ,plus who really would want to be interviewed by GMTV with that insufferable Susanna interrupting all the time and not letting people speak, he would be better doing an interview with Piers one on one.

[Kizzy]

No its The GMBHD itv
Lady producer who should have asked for a interview
yesterday


As Johnson did BBC1
then Radio 4
then LBC
all live
(al pre-booked)

Are you seriously suggesting other channels haven't requested interviews. . In the aftermath of the most turbulent weeks in politics ever? .. come on :/

Mind you imagining an interview with ego on legs morgan will be anything but a joke is impossible. Where are the serious political commentators?.....

[arista]

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As Joey Stated
nothing new in the BBC1 interview.
Johnson likes a Bus - not new

[The Slim Reaper]

yes
more international nurses will be brought in.

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[Kizzy]

They don't want even professionals with indefinate leave to remain ....
There will be provision post brexit to ship in professionals with extendable work visas.

And if that sounds like modern day slavery, that's because it it.

[The Slim Reaper]

They don't want even professionals with indefinate leave to remain ....
There will be provision post brexit to ship in professionals with extendable work visas.

And if that sounds like modern day slavery, that's because it it.

I don't care about any of that, we should just be fighting to keep all the young, Asian women in the country :smug:

Seriously though, they're making these plans about 40 hospitals (reduced to 9 the following day), we have at least 50k fewer workers than we need already, we're sending foreigners away, and folks believe we're going to recruit workers from overseas to staff our NHS, when treating the ones here like ****. Makes absolutely no sense.

[Kizzy]

Haha! The Tories talk so much rubbish...40 hospitals? PFI franchises maybe, staffed with those who bought their degrees off the internet!

There was talk of reversing the free degrees for nursing but only for mental health and it applied to mature students I think.

[The Slim Reaper]

Haha! The Tories talk so much rubbish...40 hospitals? PFI franchises maybe, staffed with those who bought their degrees off the internet!

There was talk of reversing the free degrees for nursing but only for mental health and it applied to mature students I think.

The most concerning thing, is that they they used the phrase "seed money", which means they'll only be stumping up to start the projects, not the whole thing. This definitely indicates some kind of deal with the US, who will want to make money from our healthcare to pay for their investment.

[arista]

The most concerning thing, is that they they used the phrase "seed money", which means they'll only be stumping up to start the projects, not the whole thing. This definitely indicates some kind of deal with the US, who will want to make money from our healthcare to pay for their investment.


Yes Slim
Seeds gets planted
then the Private sector invests

[Twosugars]

What does the Conservative party stand for in 2019? If you survey the central tenets of Tory ideology from the past 50 years, it is hard to find a single one that is still intact.

The party of business is hellbent on undermining access to an export market of half a billion people.
The party of law and order is now raging against the judiciary – with senior Tories being regularly asked whether their government intends to obey the law.
The party of “family values” – “back to basics”, as John Major put it – has now fallen for the charms of a famous philanderer, who is currently being dogged by questions about how his “close friend”, Jennifer Arcuri, was awarded £126,000 of grants during his time as London mayor.
The party of the establishment is provoking a constitutional crisis, angering the Queen and expelling some of its most distinguished MPs from its benches.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/01/tories-values-brexit-johnson-cummings

[arista]

The Home Secretary
is Live

[Twosugars]

The Home Secretary
is Live

aka the witch

[arista]

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[Twosugars]

You will do the same love when india and china tell you to

Who cut the police numbers?

Taking people for idiots she is

[arista]

You will do the same love when india and china tell you to

Who cut the police numbers?

Taking people for idiots she is



She Did Not
she is New in her Job

[Twosugars]

She Did Not
she is New in her Job

Her party did. Collective responsibility
She was in the cabinet under May remember?
Until she ****ed up

[Twosugars]

Despite extensive preparations at Dover, the port’s chief executive said it still expects to see a drop in trade worth £1bn a week should Britain leave the EU without a deal. Addressing a ConservativeHome/Port of Dover fringe event at the conference, the transport minister George Freeman confirmed the government was assuming that disruption would roughly halve the traffic on Britain’s main trading link
The Guardian

[arista]

Her party did. Collective responsibility
She was in the cabinet under May remember?
Until she ****ed up


Of course
but she did not get rid of Police


It was Pathetic Sacked PM May
Evil Bitch

[Twosugars]

Of course
but she did not get rid of Police


It was Pathetic Sacked PM May
Evil Bitch

She agreed with the policy.

May was right to sack the witch. She has dodgy links abroad

[Twosugars]

Mark my words Patel's career wont last long

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFzkyTSXYAAwxIC?format=jpg&name=small

All the Cups and Mugs with the Slogan printed on them
have now Sold Out.

[Twosugars]

In an interview with Sky News, Boris Johnson has refused three times to deny having an affair with Jennifer Arcuri, the businesswoman whose company received sponsorship from a mayoral fund when Johnson was in City Hall.


So we taxpayers paid for his ****s with her

[Alf]

In an interview with Sky News, Boris Johnson has refused three times to deny having an affair with Jennifer Arcuri, the businesswoman whose company received sponsorship from a mayoral fund when Johnson was in City Hall.


So we taxpayers paid for his ****s with herBoris is allowed some crumpet too.

The story here is, two consenting adults had a bit of the other.

[Twosugars]

Boris is allowed some crumpet too.

The story here is, two consenting adults had a bit of the other.

Not when she got taxpayers money

[arista]

In an interview with Sky News, Boris Johnson has refused three times to deny having an affair with Jennifer Arcuri, the businesswoman whose company received sponsorship from a mayoral fund when Johnson was in City Hall.


So we taxpayers paid for his ****s with her


20 years ago
No One CARES

[Mitchell]

20 years ago
No One CARES

But Corbyn’s life 20 years ago is everyone’s business?

[Kazanne]

But Corbyn’s life 20 years ago is everyone’s business?

Well Boris was making love,not war :hehe::wavey:

[joeysteele]

Mark my words Patel's career wont last long

I hope not, she shouldn't be an MP let alone a Minister.

She not only acted inappropriately in her last post, she deceived and lied to her PM too.

[arista]

But Corbyn’s life 20 years ago is everyone’s business?


What has Corbyn
got to do with this?

[Twosugars]

Well Boris was making love,not war :hehe::wavey:

He was married. Or is marital fidelity not something you support?

Its astonishing how some female voters here or america are happy to support absolute pigs bc it suits their political agenda

[joeysteele]

He was married. Or is marital fidelity not something you support?

Its astonishing how some female voters here or america are happy to support absolute pigs bc it suits their political agenda

I don't know what war Corbyn was making either.

He even voted against Ithe Iraq conflict.

[Alf]

He was married. Or is marital fidelity not something you support?

Its astonishing how some female voters here or america are happy to support absolute pigs bc it suits their political agendaHis private relationships before he became Prime Minister ain't dirt.

It's astonishing that Boris getting his leg over is making you hate him and hate anybody who would show him support.

[Kazanne]

He was married. Or is marital fidelity not something you support?

Its astonishing how some female voters here or america are happy to support absolute pigs bc it suits their political agenda

It was tongue and cheek ,hence the smilie,lighten up for Gods sake.:facepalm:

[Twosugars]

His private relationships before he became Prime Minister ain't dirt.

It's astonishing that Boris getting his leg over is making you hate him and hate anybody who would show him support.

When are going to understand that it only matters to me bc she got money? Money which I and other london taxpayers provided.

Bojo is an old philanderer who doesnt even know how many children he fathered. That's not news to anyone unless you were born yesterday.

But I draw a line at paying through my council tax for his affairs

[Kizzy]

aka the witch

Offensive to witches ;)

[joeysteele]

When are going to understand that it only matters to me bc she got money? Money which I and other london taxpayers provided.

Bojo is an old philanderer who doesnt even know how many children he fathered. That's not news to anyone unless you were born yesterday.

But I draw a line at paying through my council tax for his affairs

Rightly so Twosugars.

[Twosugars]

Offensive to witches ;)

You're right. Sorry.

In a very competitive field Patel is the the biggest waste of space in this so-called government.
Priti by name and ugly by nature.

Her career started as a lobbist for the tobacco industry and it's gone downhill ever since

[Alf]

You're right. Sorry.

In a very competitive field Patel is the the biggest waste of space in this so-called government.
Priti by name and ugly by nature.

Her career started as a lobbist for the tobacco industry and it's gone downhill ever sinceAll the way downhill to Home Secretary of the United Kingdom.

[arista]

All the way downhill to Home Secretary of the United Kingdom.



Yes its Up Hill

Twosugars is full of Hatred that blinds his vision.

[arista]

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFpivP-XoAARKm7?format=jpg&name=small

[Twosugars]

All the way downhill to Home Secretary of the United Kingdom.

In a surrender government

Yes its Up Hill

Twosugars is full of Hatred that blinds his vision.

Hatred for hateful policies

You better worry about your vision. I'm not the one who supports racist trump and murderous Chinese government
So spare me lectures

[Twosugars]

Patel, a daughter of immigrants, fronting policies against immigration.

[arista]

In a surrender government



Hatred for hateful policies

You better worry about your vision. I'm not the one who supports racist trump and murderous Chinese government
So spare me lectures


I do not Support them
but I trade with China.

And that Clinton Woman was Hated
that's why Trump Won.


My Vision is Honest

[Twosugars]

I do not Support them
but I trade with China.

And that Clinton Woman was Hated
that's why Trump Won.


My Vision is Honest

Who cares about human rights if there's money to be made huh

[arista]

Who cares about human rights if there's money to be made huh


Money Makes the World Go Round.


Human Rights
have not changed in China for years.
You can not Tell another Nation how to Act.

[joeysteele]

You're right. Sorry.

In a very competitive field Patel is the the biggest waste of space in this so-called government.
Priti by name and ugly by nature.

Her career started as a lobbist for the tobacco industry and it's gone downhill ever since

A friend of mine didn't realise her name was Priti.
She thought they were calling her pretty and asked me if I thought she was pretty.
I waited a while to tell her she was called Priti not thst they were calling her pretty.

However, no way should she be a Minister and certainly not a Minister in one of the high offices of State.

She had to be removed for dubious and totally inappropriate actions when last a Minister.
She deceived and lied directly to try to cover up her wrongs, to her then Prime Minister.
She's a disgrace.

Her only credentials are, she's an extreme heartless hardliner.
Fits in well with Johnsons uncompromising, reckless and concerning bunch.

[arista]

[Whether a deal is on the cards will be known
in the near future as Downing Street
prepares to unveil its offer to Brussels.
However, ministers and MPs
see agreeing a deal with the EU as unlikely.
“I give it a one in three chance,”
says a government minister keen
for a Brexit deal. Even Johnson,
normally the biggest optimist
in the room, is viewed to be relatively
downbeat about the chances by
members of his cabinet – with the
prime minister playing down the
chances of a deal during a
cabinet conference call last week.]


https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/10/why-senior-conservatives-are-talking-about-a-brexit-extension/

Katy Balls gives her view.

[Alf]

Who cares about human rights if there's money to be made huh
Do you think those humans you care so much for would rather have money or your sympathy for them?

[arista]

They are saying the Johnson PM Speech
may start at 11:35AM



Meanwhile in Westminster
PMQ's starts midday Raab Vs Abbott

[arista]

A Remix

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Another Color.

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[arista]

His Speech is going start soon.

[arista]

Johnson Is live NOW

[smudgie]

Surprisingly watchable so far.

[Alf]

Boris promoting "I'm a celebrity get me out of here"

[arista]

Boris promoting "I'm a celebrity get me out of here"


Yes saying their voting is better than the Commons


He Said at 12:10AM
we even Exported Nigel Farage to USA
briefly.
And Jason Donovan CD's to Korea.

[Alf]

The queues were long to see Boris speak at the conference.

The people's Prime Minister.

[arista]

The queues were long to see Boris speak at the conference.

The people's Prime Minister.


Yes you can say that.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[joeysteele]

I think Peston has it right.

I like the 'he wants to be seen as ..... ' bit rather than he ' will' be seen as .....

Not surprising that I heard or saw nothing new.
Or inspiring either.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Kazanne]

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LOL as IF Peston is going to be in the PMs camp:laugh:

[Twosugars]

One nation conservatives have been expelled

Now it is a brexit party lite

[Twosugars]

LOL as IF Peston is going to be in the PMs camp:laugh:

True, he is far too sensible for that :wavey:

[arista]

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Last night on LBC.

[arista]

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF4M9HAWoAAF82l?format=jpg&name=large

[arista]

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[arista]

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[joeysteele]

The queues were long to see Boris speak at the conference.

The people's Prime Minister.

They were all Con party members.
There's no doubt he's the current 'Con' Party's PM.

Not so much the peoples.

[arista]

DUP supports the New Deal.
Juncker has spoken on the Phone to Johnson PM
and it has some Positives.

Meanwhile Labour Leader Corbyn has Demanded Johnson PM
goes to Parliament tomorrow to Explain
all this.


Ref: SkyNewsHD , BBCnewsHD, EuroNews Raw Politics, LBC


Its up to Dublin
to back this or not

[joeysteele]

How can the N Ireland assembly endorse this when it's not operational.
It hasn't sat for almost 3 years.

The DUP always stated they wanted nothing different for N Ireland,.than for the rest of the UK.

Of course their power is fading.

It's worth looking at definitely, will it get the support of ALL 27 EU Nations.
It needs every one on board.

What is the view of Sinn Fein?.
Their opinion here matters as much as the DUP.

Let's see how it progresses of course.
At least something has appeared which needs considering certainly.

Also however really going through it with a very fine comb too.
This is one extremely untrustworthy and devious PM.

On the face if it, I'd prefer the May/ EU agreement.
However if it's acceptable to the EU.
Especially the Republic of Ireland.
It's welcomed ( cautiously) by me.

[arista]

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[joeysteele]

The deadlock is only because the government and the last 2 Prime Ministers.
Have chosen confrontation over consultation.

Also rejecting real compromise for being the most uncompromising anyone could be.

[arista]

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[joeysteele]

Don't get too excited arista.
It still amazes me anyone accepts polling at face value.

The margin of errors on polling are much larger now.

Even that poll with just a small change of 2% here and there, still could indicate another hung Parliament.

No Brexit party MPs.
More Lib Dem and less Con and Labour ones.

Another just about likely deadlocked parliament.

[rusticgal]

I love Boris Johnson...I love his optimism and positivity..:cheer2:

[Twosugars]

I love Boris Johnson...I love his optimism and positivity..:cheer2:

Do you love his lying and infidelity too?

[Alf]

Do you love his lying and infidelity too?I love both of those things more than anything else about him.

Boris for Britain

[Kizzy]

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If the government were doctors they'd all be struck off
If the government were a holiday they would be morecambe on a rainy cold afternoon in march.
If the government were a planet they would be a dark gassy one with a toxic freezing atmosphere, stagnant radioactive pools and no signs of life.

[Twosugars]

If the government were doctors they'd all be struck off
If the government were a holiday they would be morecambe on a rainy cold afternoon in march.
If the government were a planet they would be a dark gassy one with a toxic freezing atmosphere, stagnant radioactive pools and no signs of life.

:laugh:

[Kazanne]

I love Boris Johnson...I love his optimism and positivity..:cheer2:

Yes it's nice to see optimism and I liked his speech that was upbeat and comical in places, at least he is trying to get the peoples vote through, the slurs against him just go to prove how much the opposition are rattled.

[joeysteele]

Do you love his lying and infidelity too?

Well sadly..
It seems taking back control to the UK.
Now means decency and respect out the window.

Where lying, deceiving, infidelity and a more bullying approach to serious matters, even breaking the law or rules is to be admired.

As long as the privileged people doing that, do so with a smile and a joke.

Any ordinary person living like that or in their careers.
Would either be sacked or be thought of as thugs and only worthy of the nastiest and dirtiest of name calling.

That's what we are heading to.
Under this truly false and extreme PM and government we have.

Nothing to admire in the slightest, however, really those who do, are more likely to be the most heartless, extreme and hardline Con supporters.

Nothing to admire in that at all from me either Twosugars.

[Kizzy]

Well sadly..
It seems taking back control to the UK.
Now means decency and respect out the window.

Where lying, deceiving, infidelity and a more bullying approach to serious matters, even breaking the law or rules is to be admired.

As long as the privileged people doing that, do so with a smile and a joke.

Any ordinary person living like that or in their careers.
Would either be sacked or be thought of as thugs and only worthy of the nastiest and dirtiest of name calling.

That's what we are heading to.
Under this truly false and extreme PM and government we have.

Nothing to admire in the slightest, however, really those who do, are more likely to be the most heartless, extreme and hardline Con supporters.

Nothing to admire in that at all from me either Twosugars.

Bob on there joey, it's people that profess to be virulent in their support of law and order that are the most blinkered the higher up the food chain wrongdoing appears...hmm.

[Alf]

Bob on there joey, it's people that profess to be virulent in their support of law and order that are the most blinkered the higher up the food chain wrongdoing appears...hmm.Rubbish! Tony Blair and Alistair Campbell are high up the food chain, but I want to see them locked up for their crimes, crimes in which lots of innocent people died, War crimes.

[Kizzy]

Rubbish! Tony Blair and Alistair Campbell are high up the food chain, but I want to see them locked up for their crimes, crimes in which lots of innocent people died, War crimes.

I agree, there was a full inquiry into that... hopefully one day there will be into this too.

We were duped into war and duped into leaving the EU.

[Alf]

I agree, there was a full inquiry into that... hopefully one day there will be into this too.

We were duped into war and duped into leaving the EU.Nah, Leaving was the People's choice, if only you come back on the side of the people, and stopped fighting for the establishment against us, you'd realise that.

[The Slim Reaper]

Nah, Leaving was the People's choice, if only you come back on the side of the people, and stopped fighting for the establishment against us, you'd realise that.

If we go along with your thinking, then why are people that actually represent the needs of the people, like doctors and nurses, or manufacturers, speaking out against it? If our NHS is transferred to a US style insurance scam, then they'll all be able to earn 3 or 4 times what they earn currently, and yet they're still warning us. Manufacturers are telling us in plain sight of the problems they'll face, the harm it will do, and the job losses it will cause.

You believe these people are the establishment lying to you to protect their own free lunches, and the etonians and bullingdon boys in the party that represents the financial sector, after they forced unnecessary painful austerity on the towns and cities that needed the most help, are the guys fighting for your interests?

Is that what you believe?

[Kizzy]

Nah, Leaving was the People's choice, if only you come back on the side of the people, and stopped fighting for the establishment against us, you'd realise that.

And Blair had the peoples and parliaments support for war.... What's your point?

[Beso]

So words like surrender and whatever else is to be frowned upon because of how it can be percieved...does this mean the party whips must whip them all into shape!!!