David Attenborough is a vegetarian

[Niamh.]

:love:

DAVID ATTENBOROUGH LOST HIS APPETITE FOR MEAT DUE TO ‘THE STATE OF THE PLANET’
Vegetarian Sir David Attenborough said mankind must stop eating meat for the good of the planet. The meat industry is a leading cause of climate change.

https://cdn.livekindly.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/livekindly_sir_david_attenborough-2.jpg

The deteriorating state of the planet has caused Sir David Attenborough to lose his appetite for meat.

Speaking to Radio Times magazine, the broadcaster and natural historian urged for people to act more responsibly when making choices about food. “Above all, we have to bear one thing in mind – every single mouthful of food and every breath of air we take is dependent on a healthy planet,” he said.

“And the one thing we can all do is to stop waste. Don’t waste food. Don’t waste power. They are precious and we can’t live without them. We are all consumers of these things and we must act responsibly,” the 92-year-old stated, adding that, “perhaps by doing that, we can undo the damage that we’re doing.”

Attenborough’s latest documentary series “Our Planet” showcases the wonders and vulnerabilities of the natural world and above all, “reminds us we’re all on one team,” the series’ trailer says. The Netflix hit made viewers emotional, to say the least, particularly when watching scenes of animals like walruses and flamingo chicks struggling and dying due to environmental problems, like melting ice. Digital Spy said the footage is “capable of both breaking your heart and also warming your soul.”

During the Radio Times interview, Attenborough was questioned about whether people should reduce their meat intake. An increasing amount of research has suggested that meat production is only worsening our planet’s already dismal state. Attenborough replied, “Well, we can’t go on eating meat at the rate we have been.”

The recent interview mirrors similar comments made by the broadcaster late last year. In a video, Attenborough “warned” that “we need to start making serious changes in order to combat climate change,” Sky News reported.

Attenborough commented that those in “the comfortable west” – and especially people in wealthier parts – are often untouched by the effects of global warming, caused by a number of industries including animal agriculture. “We may well say… ‘well it doesn’t really matter whether we go on eating meat, because we’re not affected,’” Attenborough commented.

“But in fact, it does matter because it matters to the whole world. And the first people to feel the consequences are, of course, the poor. Those at the bottom of the heap. Those that are really vulnerable to what is happening in the climate,” he continued. Notably, a study published in October found that those with a lower income were more likely to be concerned about climate change.

“[T]he whole world together should actually act on their behalf,” Attenborough stated. “We have so much knowledge, we have so much skill, we have so much ingenuity. Of course, we can do something about [climate change]. The question is how much. And we ought to set our sights high and go for the best,” Attenborough said in the video. He added that humankind should use its “passion” to get out of “this mess.”

https://www.livekindly.co/david-attenborough-lost-appetite-meat-state-planet/

[Livia]

Humans are built to eat meat, we're omnivores... and if people decide not to eat meat, that's their choice and I respect that. And farming welfare has really come on in the last couple of decades in developed countries. But I honestly think we have to tackle plastic first. Walk into your local supermarket and look at all the plastic tubs of sweets piled up for Christmas... And I'd like to know how much plastic will be delivered by Father Christmas. It seems like all toys are made from plastic, when my nieces were little the house was filled to the brim with pink plastic stuff. Enough.

[Denver]

Humans are built to eat meat, we're omnivores... and if people decide not to eat meat, that's their choice and I respect that. And farming welfare has really come on in the last couple of decades in developed countries. But I honestly think we have to tackle plastic first. Walk into your local supermarket and look at all the plastic tubs of sweets piled up for Christmas... And I'd like to know how much plastic will be delivered by Father Christmas. It seems like all toys are made from plastic, when my nieces were little the house was filled to the brim with pink plastic stuff. Enough.

Gasses from animals that are farmed for meat is the biggest pollution problem in the world, it release more bad toxins then cars

[Livia]

Gasses from animals that are farmed for meat is the biggest pollution problem in the world, it release more bad toxins then cars

Burning fossil fuels is higher than agricultural emissions.

[Kizzy]

The founder of greggs has too :) I'm sad to say I can't do it... I eat chicken and turkey. I disagree that farming practices are better, I've read of intensive farming being rolled out for pigs and cattle where they are penned and fed only. That's not ethical.

[Kizzy]

Burning fossil fuels is higher than agricultural emissions.

Lets invest in green energy then...

[Niamh.]

The founder of greggs has too :) I'm sad to say I can't do it... I eat chicken and turkey. I disagree that farming practices are better, I've read of intensive farming being rolled out for pigs and cattle where they are penned and fed only. That's not ethical.

It is very hard, meat tastes good. So barbaric though. I hope it does end up dying out in time

[bots]

it's an issue of personal choice. Fine if he doesn't want to eat meat, but I will never give it up, because I simply don't want to.

[Denver]

The only problem is, it's harder to fill up on meat free diets and I notice in the days I dont eat meat I am hungrier then the days I do

[Niamh.]

The only problem is, it's harder to fill up on meat free diets and I notice in the days I dont eat meat I am hungrier then the days I do

Depends what you're eating on those days I think

[Livia]

Veggies and vegans miss a lot of good stuff, vitamins and minerals. Vegans are particularly prone to eating an unbalanced diet if they're not fully informed. We're supposed to eat meat and dairy... we're built for it and it's good for us.

[Niamh.]

Veggies and vegans miss a lot of good stuff, vitamins and minerals. Vegans are particularly prone to eating an unbalanced diet if they're not fully informed. We're supposed to eat meat and dairy... we're built for it and it's good for us.

Like what? B12 is about the only one and alot of the B12 that people get from meat, they only get that because the animals themselves are given B12 supplements in their feed

[Kazanne]

Ive been a veggie since I was 13 so its just a way of life or me now, but I would never force the issue on other people but there is a lot of cruelty involved in the meat industry, you just cant trust people to follow the ethical rules , some will do anything for a fast turnaround or just for kicks (pardon the pun) I have no problem with meat eating I just don't like the way the animals are treated and killed .There is some really nice veggie food out there now.

[Kizzy]

Apart from b12 name something...
Anyone is prone to eating an unbalanced diet if not fully informed.

[Denver]

Depends what you're eating on those days I think

I eat a lot of Vegetarian Moussaka and Falafel because they are so beautiful

[Kizzy]

I eat a lot of Vegetarian Moussaka and Falafel because they are so beautiful

Mmm love falafel

[Livia]

Like what? B12 is about the only one and alot of the B12 that people get from meat, they only get that because the animals themselves are given B12 supplements in their feed

Yes, I understand about B12. But what about iron, vitamin D... Where do vegans get their calcium?

I'm not saying no one should be veggie, I respect people who choose to be, and most veggies I know are knowledgeable about food. What is boring is a militant veggie/vegan. We're all free to choose.

[Niamh.]

Yes, I understand about B12. But what about iron, vitamin D... Where do vegans get their calcium?

I'm not saying no one should be veggie, I respect people who choose to be, and most veggies I know are knowledgeable about food. What is boring is a militant veggie/vegan. We're all free to choose.

Sources of well-absorbed calcium for vegans include calcium-fortified soy milk and juice, calcium-set tofu, soybeans and soynuts, bok choy, broccoli, collards, Chinese cabbage, kale, mustard greens, and okra 1.

Iron :

Legumes: lentils, soybeans, tofu, tempeh, lima beans, black beans, chickpeas.
Grains: quinoa, fortified cereals, brown rice, oatmeal.
Nuts and seeds: pumpkin, squash, pine, pistachio, sunflower, cashews, unhulled sesame.
Vegetables: tomato sauce, Swiss chard, collard greens.

[Livia]

Sources of well-absorbed calcium for vegans include calcium-fortified soy milk and juice, calcium-set tofu, soybeans and soynuts, bok choy, broccoli, collards, Chinese cabbage, kale, mustard greens, and okra 1.

Iron :

Legumes: lentils, soybeans, tofu, tempeh, lima beans, black beans, chickpeas.
Grains: quinoa, fortified cereals, brown rice, oatmeal.
Nuts and seeds: pumpkin, squash, pine, pistachio, sunflower, cashews, unhulled sesame.
Vegetables: tomato sauce, Swiss chard, collard greens.

I didn't say you would be lacking these things. It's harder to eat a balanced veggie diet, you have to work at it. And just like meat eaters who don't eat healthily, there will be veggies out there lacking the good stuff.

[Niamh.]

I didn't say you would be lacking these things. It's harder to eat a balanced veggie diet, you have to work at it. And just like meat eaters who don't eat healthily, there will be veggies out there lacking the good stuff.

Well yeah but like you say, that can happen in any kind of diet

[Livia]

Well yeah but like you say, that can happen in any kind of diet

I watched a programme on TV about young people turning to vegetarianism and veganism and not knowing how to eat a balanced diet, and their parents not knowing either. I think it's a worry... but it's not like it's an underground thing, there's plenty of info around.

[Kizzy]

Yes, I understand about B12. But what about iron, vitamin D... Where do vegans get their calcium?

I'm not saying no one should be veggie, I respect people who choose to be, and most veggies I know are knowledgeable about food. What is boring is a militant veggie/vegan. We're all free to choose.

Here calcium is added to bread by law, cereals are also fortified and brassicas have tons of iron. Vitimin D is from sunshine so you only have to step outside.

[Livia]

Baiting.

[Scarlett.]

I can see eventually, synthetic meats taking the place of real meats.

[Livia]

I can see eventually, synthetic meats taking the place of real meats.

If the population continues to grow unchecked, people will end up eating whatever they can find. That's the real problem... humans are the most destructive force on the planet. And there are far too many of us.

[Cherie]

Good for him, but it has to be down to personal choice, stopping eating meat alone will not safe the planet, I agree with Livia that the amount of plastic stuff sold needs to be addressed, and packaging should be top of that list, is there any reason sweet companies cannot provide tins which can be recycled, it used to be tins of sweets not plastic boxes of sweets or some form of recyclable cardboard instead, floor to ceiling displays of plastic boxes of sweets and biscuits this time of year are sickening in all honesty

[Kizzy]

I watched a programme on TV about young people turning to vegetarianism and veganism and not knowing how to eat a balanced diet, and their parents not knowing either. I think it's a worry... but it's not like it's an underground thing, there's plenty of info around.

Which programme was that? There are literally 100s of good quality books on veganism and vegitarianism. To say you don't know how or where to begin now does seem a bit ignorant. If you're not sufficiently prepared or educated the maybe it isn't for you.

[Livia]

Good for him, but it has to be down to personal choice, stopping eating meat alone will not safe the planet, I agree with Livia that the amount of plastic stuff sold needs to be addressed, and packaging should be top of that list, is there any reason sweet companies cannot provide tins which can be recycled, it used to be tins of sweets not plastic boxes of sweets or some form of recyclable cardboard instead, floor to ceiling displays of plastic boxes of sweets and biscuits this time of year are sickening in all honesty

Sickening. that's a good choice of words.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the problem is too many people and Africa is the huge issue going forward. India, Bangladesh and Pakistan and Africa should be limited to one child only. Ideally a total ban on procreation there save nomadic tribes (ie in city areas). From the west all flights for holidays stopped forthwith with only essential travel by plane.

[Cherie]

Sickening. that's a good choice of words.

:laugh:

[Kizzy]

Good for him, but it has to be down to personal choice, stopping eating meat alone will not safe the planet, I agree with Livia that the amount of plastic stuff sold needs to be addressed, and packaging should be top of that list, is there any reason sweet companies cannot provide tins which can be recycled, it used to be tins of sweets not plastic boxes of sweets or some form of recyclable cardboard instead, floor to ceiling displays of plastic boxes of sweets and biscuits this time of year are sickening in all honesty

Who said it would?.. there are literally 100s of factors that would need to be addressed in order to save the planet. This thread deals with one. It's not helpful to throw about the usual whataboutism, it's counterproductive.
Make a thread about plastic waste or consumerism if you like.

[Cherie]

the problem is too many people and Africa is the huge issue going forward. India, Bangladesh and Pakistan and Africa should be limited to one child only. Ideally a total ban on procreation there save nomadic tribes (ie in city areas). From the west all flights for holidays stopped forthwith with only essential travel by plane.



I think most would prefer to put dairy and beef farmers out of business first

[Kizzy]

the problem is too many people and Africa is the huge issue going forward. India, Bangladesh and Pakistan and Africa should be limited to one child only. Ideally a total ban on procreation there save nomadic tribes (ie in city areas). From the west all flights for holidays stopped forthwith with only essential travel by plane.

Again, overpopulation is an issue...but not for this thread.

[Cherie]

Who said it would?.. there are literally 100s of factors that would need to be addressed in order to save the planet. This thread deals with one. It's not helpful to throw about the usual whataboutism, it's counterproductive.
Make a thread about plastic waste or consumerism if you like.

I said it...we don't need to make individual threads for something that is linked to the demise of the planet which is the point of this thread, and I will not be ordered about by you kizzy

[Crimson Dynamo]

Again, overpopulation is an issue...but not for this thread.

why what is this thread about please?

[Kizzy]

Well no matter I see the way the threads going, David Attenborough has gone veggie so nobody can fly on planes and all cattle farmers should go out of business.
I'm going to leave you to it. I've said my piece thanks.

[arista]

I can see eventually, synthetic meats taking the place of real meats.


But that would cost MORE

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well no matter I see the way the threads going, David Attenborough has gone veggie so nobody can fly on planes and all cattle farmers should go out of business.
I'm going to leave you to it. I've said my piece thanks.

how can you discuss the fact he has gone veggie, as he just has. the article states

"In a video, Attenborough “warned” that “we need to start making serious changes in order to combat climate change,"

so the causes of climate change are in the discussion, what on earth is your point as i dont get it and i am sure others may agree??

[Crimson Dynamo]

But that would cost MORE

yes see my thread about the £14 Impossible burger

[arista]

yes see my thread about the £14 Impossible burger


Yes LT its Pathetic
these Poxy Veggies.

[Scarlett.]

But that would cost MORE

Right now, yes it would, but as with all technology, the process would be streamlined I imagine, would eventually end up being much cheaper, given that there'd be no need to raise and feed a herd of farm animals, and has the added effect of being much greener.

[arista]

Right now, yes it would, but as with all technology, the process would be streamlined I imagine, would eventually end up being much cheaper, given that there'd be no need to raise and feed a herd of farm animals, and has the added effect of being much greener.


Animals are needed

Veg and Vegans
are out numbered.

[Scarlett.]

Animals are needed

Veg and Vegans
are out numbered.

Animals are needed yes, but we don't have to kill them, when the technology arrives to bring us synthetic meat, nothing would have to die to make it a reality. It's not something that is imminent, but it will eventually come.

[Kizzy]

Not quorn... That's nasty :(

[arista]

Animals are needed yes, but we don't have to kill them, when the technology arrives to bring us synthetic meat, nothing would have to die to make it a reality. It's not something that is imminent, but it will eventually come.


Farm Factory's
are needed for KFC
for a fast example

Meat is staying put
despite your views.

[Scarlett.]

Not quorn... That's nasty :(

I'm talking about lab grown meat, it sounds icky, but it's still better than battery farming living sentient creatures to feed us.

If scientists perfect the way of making synthetic meats, we'd never have another "Chicken shortage at KFC" headline again :laugh:

[arista]

I'm talking about lab grown meat, it sounds icky, but it's still better than battery farming living sentient creatures to feed us.

If scientists perfect the way of making synthetic meats, we'd never have another "Chicken shortage at KFC" headline again :laugh:


There was NO Shortage
a Stupid CEO of KFC
tried a New Delivery service
to save money
and buggered it all up

[The Slim Reaper]

There was NO Shortage
a Stupid CEO of KFC
tried a New Delivery service
to save money
and buggered it all up

The post of a man who didn't get his hot wings on that day.

[Kizzy]

I'm talking about lab grown meat, it sounds icky, but it's still better than battery farming living sentient creatures to feed us.

If scientists perfect the way of making synthetic meats, we'd never have another "Chicken shortage at KFC" headline again :laugh:

Quorn is lab grown meat.

[Cherie]

Not quorn... That's nasty :(

Something we can agree on..awful

[Scarlett.]

Quorn is lab grown meat.

Is it not microfungus?

[Livia]

Is it not microfungus?

Mmmmmmmmmmm microfungus.

[Niamh.]

Is it not microfungus?Mushrooms are large fungus, yogurt is bacteria :shrug:

[Scarlett.]

Mushrooms are large fungus, yogurt is bacteria :shrug:

Neither are meat :laugh:

[Beso]

:love:

DAVID ATTENBOROUGH LOST HIS APPETITE FOR MEAT DUE TO ‘THE STATE OF THE PLANET’
Vegetarian Sir David Attenborough said mankind must stop eating meat for the good of the planet. The meat industry is a leading cause of climate change.

https://cdn.livekindly.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/livekindly_sir_david_attenborough-2.jpg

The deteriorating state of the planet has caused Sir David Attenborough to lose his appetite for meat.

Speaking to Radio Times magazine, the broadcaster and natural historian urged for people to act more responsibly when making choices about food. “Above all, we have to bear one thing in mind – every single mouthful of food and every breath of air we take is dependent on a healthy planet,” he said.

“And the one thing we can all do is to stop waste. Don’t waste food. Don’t waste power. They are precious and we can’t live without them. We are all consumers of these things and we must act responsibly,” the 92-year-old stated, adding that, “perhaps by doing that, we can undo the damage that we’re doing.”

Attenborough’s latest documentary series “Our Planet” showcases the wonders and vulnerabilities of the natural world and above all, “reminds us we’re all on one team,” the series’ trailer says. The Netflix hit made viewers emotional, to say the least, particularly when watching scenes of animals like walruses and flamingo chicks struggling and dying due to environmental problems, like melting ice. Digital Spy said the footage is “capable of both breaking your heart and also warming your soul.”

During the Radio Times interview, Attenborough was questioned about whether people should reduce their meat intake. An increasing amount of research has suggested that meat production is only worsening our planet’s already dismal state. Attenborough replied, “Well, we can’t go on eating meat at the rate we have been.”

The recent interview mirrors similar comments made by the broadcaster late last year. In a video, Attenborough “warned” that “we need to start making serious changes in order to combat climate change,” Sky News reported.

Attenborough commented that those in “the comfortable west” – and especially people in wealthier parts – are often untouched by the effects of global warming, caused by a number of industries including animal agriculture. “We may well say… ‘well it doesn’t really matter whether we go on eating meat, because we’re not affected,’” Attenborough commented.

“But in fact, it does matter because it matters to the whole world. And the first people to feel the consequences are, of course, the poor. Those at the bottom of the heap. Those that are really vulnerable to what is happening in the climate,” he continued. Notably, a study published in October found that those with a lower income were more likely to be concerned about climate change.

“[T]he whole world together should actually act on their behalf,” Attenborough stated. “We have so much knowledge, we have so much skill, we have so much ingenuity. Of course, we can do something about [climate change]. The question is how much. And we ought to set our sights high and go for the best,” Attenborough said in the video. He added that humankind should use its “passion” to get out of “this mess.”

https://www.livekindly.co/david-attenborough-lost-appetite-meat-state-planet/



Just showed my 16 yr old nephew his picture...

He said..."look at him with his grey hair, typical old racist"


:joker:

[Marsh.]

I'm talking about lab grown meat, it sounds icky

It does sound icky. God gave us chickens so we didn't have to grow them in a lab.

[Cherie]

no food should have the word 'synthetic' in it

[Niamh.]

Just showed my 16 yr old nephew his picture...



He said..."look at him with his grey hair, typical old racist"





:joker:How dare he :oh: David Attenborough is a king amongst men

[Niamh.]

Neither are meat [emoji23]Neither is quorn?

[Kazanne]

It does sound icky. God gave us chickens so we didn't have to grow them in a lab.

Apparently chickens are the worst treated of all the farm animals, shame we as humans cant treat them humanely.