Doctor Who: Series 12

[Greg!]

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(Just made a new thread since it won’t let me change the title of the old one)

[Greg!]

Looks better than series 11 already imo. Glad to see some returning aliens

[Rob!]

NOT the Racnoss

[Rob!]

Omg though the Cybermen look AMAZING.

Stephen Fry :love:

[Headie]

We want this legend back

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[Marsh.]

NOT the Racnoss

We want Sarah Parish!!! :oh:

[Marsh.]

Looks a lot more action packed compared to last year's trailer. Hopefully that translates to the episodes. The slower pace only really worked in the mirror world episode last year.

[Glenn.]

Not too keen on the Cyberman redesign but it looks promising. It seems more like Doctor Who of old which is always a good thing.

[Braden]

Cannot fookin' wait :love:

[Rob!]

If that IS the Racnoss, presumably she's head of those scorpion things which would imply that's she's leader of arachnids as a whole as opposed to just spiders. That's a fairly interesting take on it. Mind you, I'm really not a fan of The Runaway Bride as an episode so meh.

[Marsh.]

Excuse me the Runaway Bride is a classic. :nono:

[Braden]

I agree ^

Pleasantly surprised that The Racnoss is returning, give some RTD aliens some depth.

[Glenn.]

I don’t think it’s the Racnoss. It looks similar but think it’s something else.

[Glenn.]

If that IS the Racnoss, presumably she's head of those scorpion things which would imply that's she's leader of arachnids as a whole as opposed to just spiders. That's a fairly interesting take on it. Mind you, I'm really not a fan of The Runaway Bride as an episode so meh.

Imagine having such warped, wrong and stupid opinions like this

[Marsh.]

Imagine having such warped, wrong and stupid opinions like this

Get her! :clap1:

[Morgan.]

The racnoss looking thing (apparently called Queen Skithra) is played by the actress who was Rani Chandra in SJA. Looking to be episode 6 or 7.

[Morgan.]

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[Morgan.]

First episode called ‘Spyfall’

[MB.]

Other episodes in the series will apparently be called 'Goldpinger', 'Casino Poyale' and 'Dr. Po'

[Morgan.]

Other episodes in the series will apparently be called 'Goldpinger', 'Casino Poyale' and 'Dr. Po'

I’m glad they’re introducing new villains into the show

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[Oliver_W]

Well, at least it looks better than S11.

Have a companion cull - get rid of the two dullards whose names I can't remember, keep Graham, and bring back Bill <3

[Nicky91]

oh yass, me and my dad are gonna watch, like last season :flutter:

[armand.kay]

We want this legend back

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Can’t wait for her surprise resurrection, I know it’s coming I can feel it in my bones. Holding my breath :fc:

[Oliver_W]

Scratch Bill, let's have Grace and Graham having a second honeymoon through time and space with the Doc <3

[Headie]

Can’t wait for her surprise resurrection, I know it’s coming I can feel it in my bones. Holding my breath :fc:

Leaked footage of her comeback scene

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[armand.kay]

Leaked footage of her comeback scene

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not many would catch the subtle hint "to keep me from getting to you (doctor who season 12)"

it's actually happening
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[Scarlett.]

New TARDIS interior (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07xyzh6/p07xz08d)

[Oliver_W]

Watching the Christmas Carol episode <3 I miss how good the show used to be :(

[Oliver_W]

Gonna be optimistic that a mediocre Doctor,woeful showrunner, and (two) crappy companions will magically be better ... The trailer makes it look better, so who knows...

[Marsh.]

I don't understand the need for 3 companions.

Bradley Walsh should've just been Mandip Gill's step-grandad and bin off Tosin Cole altogether.

[Oliver_W]

I don't understand the need for 3 companions.

Bradley Walsh should've just been Mandip Gill's step-grandad and bin off Tosin Cole altogether.

I always get the companions names the wrong way round because Mandip has man in it, and Toison sounds effeminate :joker: but yeah, Girl Companion is better than Boy Companion, but I'd prefer Graham and Grace <3 or even better, keep Bill!

[Morgan.]

Grace > Yas >>> Graham > Ryan and I’m not even sorry

[armand.kay]

sorry if Grayham was the only companion I would tap the hell out... I actually like the multiple companions it's very Peter Davison's doctor of her my only problem is that I don't like Ryan. I imagine they saw everyone's reaction to him though and made some changes.

[Morgan.]

sorry if Grayham was the only companion I would tap the hell out... I actually like the multiple companions it's very Peter Davison's doctor of her my only problem is that I don't like Ryan. I imagine they saw everyone's reaction to him though and made some changes.

Graham would’ve been last in my list if Ryan wasn’t terribly written and acted

[Oliver_W]

I actually like the multiple companions it's very Peter Davison's doctor of her my only problem is that I don't like Ryan.
Yeah man! Nyssa, Tegan, and Adric ... Ryan is totally the Adric, and let's hope he meets a similar fate <3

[Morgan.]

The Inbetweeners’ James Buckley is set to appear in this series, speculated as episode 3.

[Nicky91]

are we ready for this tonight?

[Oliver_W]

I actually loved it!

I'm sooo glad i went into it spoiler free, had had NO IDEA that character was gonna be ... That character! I loved this version of him, it was great when he revealed himself and was in full form!

[Greg!]

I’m shook!

[Barry.]

Who's the master? I'm not sure I remember him.

[Greg!]

Who's the master? I'm not sure I remember him.

Missy

[Barry.]

Missy

Oh yes! I remember now.

[Marsh.]

Who's the master? I'm not sure I remember him.

:suspect: How long have you watched?

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[Barry.]

I missed out Matt Smith and Peter episodes.

[Tom4784]

I got about 15-20 minutes into it and I had to turn it off, I might give it another go later but I'm struggling with Chibnall's terrible writing. Hopefully this series is his last.

[Marsh.]

I missed out Matt Smith and Peter episodes.

Michelle Gomez was so good. Series 10 was really good.

[Oliver_W]

Michelle Gomez was so good. Series 10 was really good.

I loved it, 7b-10 is probably my favourite "era", along with 3-4

[Barry.]

Michelle Gomez was so good. Series 10 was really good.

I need to watch them on netflixs.

[Denver]

The return if The Master wasnt really needed

[Marsh.]

I am shocked Chris "want to do all new" Chibnall brought back such a prominent feature of Moffat's last series.

[Scarlett.]

A much stronger start to S12! Glad Chibnall finally decided to stop being silly

[Scarlett.]

I'm gonna guess that this is who the Simm's Master regenerated into before Missy, seems a lot closer to him than Missy

[Morgan.]

Now THAT is how you do an opener :clap1:

[Morgan.]

I need to watch them on netflixs.

They’re on iPlayer too

[Tom4784]

I watched the rest, it was complete ****.

After watching a few episodes of older seasons recently, it highlights how Chibnall doesn't understand the Doctor's character at all and it's bothering me beyond anything that, out of all the doctors that's been so far, he chose the first female doctor to be an idiot that seemingly gets outplayed by everyone around her until she stumbles across a Deus-Ex-Machina in the last 10 minutes of an episode.

All the assistants are grating on me now, I liked Graham last season but even he is annoying me now. Yaz, even when given something to do is devoid of personality, there's just never a point in Ryan being there. I feel sad for Jodie Whitaker since she's stuck with terrible material but I'm not sure there's any redeeming the show as it is. Get rid of everyone and start over with a new showrunner and a doctor, hopefully another female one so a decent writer can actually write her well.

The master's dialogue was also cringeworthy. Chibnall's version of 'Missy=Mistress' is him mentioning a few minutes before the reveal that they have to find a spymaster because that has master in it... Ugh, such inept writing. I don't think I can bring myself to watch anymore. Even at his worst, Moffett was way better than this ****.

[Marsh.]

I will say this and Resolution were on the whole much better than Series 11 on a whole.

However, is it just me or does Jodie find herself in an "empty CGI wasteland" quite often since she started? And she's only had 12 episodes. :laugh:

[Tom4784]

I will say this and Resolution were on the whole much better than Series 11 on a whole.

However, is it just me or does Jodie find herself in an "empty CGI wasteland" quite often since she started? And she's only had 12 episodes. :laugh:

Chibnall relies on the same tropes all the time but he tries to cover it by having the character's call it out (like how that one guy asked is Graham's just there for the commentary) which is just doesn't work.

I am still astounded that he was given a second series, he has the writing ability of a D-grade GCSE student.

[Headie]

Wow I can't believe our Grace is the Master, we truly don't deserve ha

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[Marsh.]

Wow I can't believe our Grace is the Master, we truly don't deserve ha

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:joker::joker::joker:

[Nicky91]

we love national treasure Stephen Fry's small role :flutter:

[Denver]

The ratings were not great but the highest rated show of the night on got 5m so seems like people just didnt watch TV

[Glenn.]

I thought it was a marked improvement on the whole of S11 tbh. Seems they’re throwing everything at this series this year, Master, Judoon, Cybermen and the Daleks again for the special for maybe Easter?

[Scarlett.]

I wonder if The Master could be behind UNIT shutting down?

[Oliver_W]

Yeah it was okay. Miles better than anything from S11.

[Marsh.]

Not sure about this Master yet. Or the Master in general.

To say Chibnall was all about treading new ground he's been very derivative so far. To bring the Master in when Capaldi's tenure was arched by a version of that character is lazy beyond belief imo.

[Scarlett.]

So much better than S11, I'm actually interested in what happens next now

[Rob!]

That was so so so much better than last week. I’m genuinely excited to see what comes out of this Gallifrey story.

Also, Missy always felt like a separate character away from the Master and this is the best the master has ever been. I’m excited again. Who knew Chibbers had it in him?

[Scarlett.]

One thing bothers me, in Hell Bent, I'm pretty sure its established that the Time Lords moved Gallifrey to the edge of the universe, give or take a system, they moved it out of the pocket universe...

[Headie]

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[Marsh.]

:laugh2:

[Firewire]

I screamed at that

[Nicky91]

we also get a guest role of Goran Visnjic as Nikola Tesla in this season

[Rob!]

Next week’s is called Orphan 55 and apparently is a scary one :love:

[Marsh.]

Next week’s is called Orphan 55 and apparently is a scary one :love:

Serving Empty Child. :flutter:

Let's hope Jodie helps set the tone and isn't Blue Peterish.

[Oliver_W]

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haha! awesome

[Greg!]

Yaz is the ONLY companion we stan.

[Strictly Jake]

Just caught up. I loved those 2 episodes. The only thing wrong with it was ryan

Also people always think im strange when i dont trust technology like phones alexas, cookies etc I know this a fake programme but from news segments etc I think more people are catching on to the fact we shouldnt trust it

[Morgan.]

Just caught up. I loved those 2 episodes. The only thing wrong with it was ryan

Also people always think im strange when i dont trust technology like phones alexas, cookies etc I know this a fake programme but from news segments etc I think more people are catching on to the fact we shouldnt trust it

We just got an Alexa and I hate having it around, I’m always on edge.

[Oliver_W]

Yaz is the ONLY companion we stan.

She's definitely better than Ryan, but not as good as Graham.

They all pale in comparison to Bill or Amy or Donna <3

[Strictly Jake]

We just got an Alexa and I hate having it around, I’m always on edge.

I dont trust them at all. Who knows who can hear on the other side for it to help follow commands. Who knows who can hack into them. Also for people to say its best to keep them out of a room that your having a private conversation in is fishy

Even things like cameras on your door so you know who comes and gos, well maybe others can see that footage and know when you leave and when you go....

Even our phones are able to spy on us, they have cameras, they store our data of our interests etc etc

Anyone else had a conversation with somebody about an object perhaps and an advert can come up on your phone about it not long after? I have. Its not a coincidence!

[Oliver_W]

Eh, if someone's idea of a high afternoon is listening to me talking to the hound, I wish them luck and suggest they get a life.

[Rob!]

Some upcoming episode titles:

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[Greg!]

The long ep titles recently get on my nerves, not sure why! Like for ep 4 shortening it to ‘Night of Terror’ would make it sound way better. Idk!

[Headie]

I rewatched Midnight again today from the Tennant era. Ugh, one of the best eps ever :flutter:

[Ant.]

I LOVED Missy but I'm glad to see 'O'. I had the reveal spoilt (I kinda went out my way to find it lol) but zoo ee mama he's good and he's great on the eyes :lovedup:

[Rob!]

I love 'O'. He's going to be a great Master I think. He's got the right level of madness about him. It totally makes sense that he's turned evil again if whatever the Timeless Child thing is has 'betrayed' him so much, in fact, thinking about it, even Missy would probably have done that. I am SO perched for the rest of the series and it feels great to be saying that again.

[Oliver_W]

I like the way O's "panto villain" aspects seem like a bit of a deliberate act. When he's not talking to Doc, he's more quiet and menacing, but amps it up when she's there.

An example is in the airplane in ep 1. He was hamming it up until he sat in the chair, and when he was out of Doc's line of sight he was more deadpan.

[Marsh.]

The Master has always (and by always I mean New Who dunno about classic) been a showman/woman. They love the attention.

[Tom4784]

I decided to bite the bullet and watch the second part yesterday, it was better than the first but I'm not sold on the writing for the Master, the actor seems capable enough (lacks of bit of gravitas perhaps?) but the writing for him is a bit too moustache-twirly. Chibnall's take on the Master lacks the nuance that the other recent versions have had. The Doctor and The Master should be like Xavier and Magneto in that they are old friends who are enemies by circumstance and I didn't really get that with this episode.

I like that there is an arc to this series already although they've retconned so much about Gallifrey over the years that it's diffcult to care that it's been destroyed when you know they'll end up bringing it back a few years down the line anyway.

I think I'll just pick up this series when I can be bothered, I don't think I can follow it as closely as I did the other seasons.

[Marsh.]

Yeah, the actor is good but I can't get excited about The Master/Gallifrey destroyed when we literally just had a major Master arc with Moffat's last series. The Master was a massive part of Tennant's era and we've done the Gallifrey is destroyed/Gallifrey is saved just a couple of years ago.

I'm all for bringing more familiar aspects of Doctor Who back but does it have to be the most overused ones?

[Tom4784]

Yeah, the actor is good but I can't get excited about The Master/Gallifrey destroyed when we literally just had a major Master arc with Moffat's last series. The Master was a massive part of Tennant's era and we've done the Gallifrey is destroyed/Gallifrey is saved just a couple of years ago.

I'm all for bringing more familiar aspects of Doctor Who back but does it have to be the most overused ones?

I think the reaction to the last season has left Chibnall panicked I think, nothing he tried to do really worked and so he's trying to throw in everything familiar to try to claw people back. It's a real shame because his poor efforts will lead people to thinking that the problem with Chibnall's tenure was the 'wokeness' and not the piss poor writing.

[armand.kay]

I miss Moffat and his space soap opera ass. The opening two episodes were terrible if you ask me and somehow a worse start than last season. This show has really plummeted in quality and I hate to see it.

[Marsh.]

Also, why was Stephen Fry so wasted?

Were they going for a "the biggest star dies in the first half" shocker?

[Headie]

I miss the days where every ep of the series was a different, unrelated story and you didn't have to watch series 8 episode 12 part 1 to understand what's going on in series 10 episode 7 part 2 or whatever. As an audience you should be able to jump in and out of a series as and when you please without needing to know loads of prior knowledge. It makes it almost impossible for the show to attract new viewers unless they rewatch all the first 10 seasons or something.

[Marsh.]

I miss the days where every ep of the series was a different, unrelated story and you didn't have to watch series 8 episode 12 part 1 to understand what's going on in series 10 episode 7 part 2 or whatever. As an audience you should be able to jump in and out of a series as and when you please without needing to know loads of prior knowledge. It makes it almost impossible for the show to attract new viewers unless they rewatch all the first 10 seasons or something.

Tbf, Chibnall can't do that either, look at series 11.

[Oliver_W]

Yeah ole Chibbers ain't doing great... The first two episodes are miles better than anything from S11, but they're still not as good as RTD or Moff...

[Scarlett.]

His biggest problem is the dialogue, it just doesn't flow well, you end up with Jodie talking to herself for like 3 minutes explaining the plot.

[Glenn.]

I miss the days where every ep of the series was a different, unrelated story and you didn't have to watch series 8 episode 12 part 1 to understand what's going on in series 10 episode 7 part 2 or whatever. As an audience you should be able to jump in and out of a series as and when you please without needing to know loads of prior knowledge. It makes it almost impossible for the show to attract new viewers unless they rewatch all the first 10 seasons or something.

It was literally like that with S11 but still didn’t work.

[Scarlett.]

It was literally like that with S11 but still didn’t work.

Yep, I'm glad we FINALLY got references to Gallifrey, Daleks and The Master and that the Doctor finally said the name of her own race. S11 at times didn't feel like Doctor Who, because there was nothing familiar aside from the TARDIS.

[Headie]

It was literally like that with S11 but still didn’t work.

Well I actually liked S11 for that very reason :laugh: I pretty much gave up halfway into the Smith era, and it was only in S10 again when I was able to rejoin watching, but even then there were various plotlines I had no clue what they were in relation to. I think overlapping stories should just stick to season-long plots rather than spanning across like 4 seasons honestly.

[Headie]

As I said, if they carry on with masses of complex season-intertwining stories, there's literally zero possibility for new viewers to join in. And once the old viewers start to drop off out of boredom of the repeated mess, the show won't have anywhere to go in picking ratings back up.

[Rob!]

The thing is, and this is even when RTD and Moffat were in charge, arc heavy seasons are usually the best ones. If you intrigue viewers at the start with a decent overarching story that is clearly going to be told over the series, they'll stick around. The show has been back for long enough for viewers to get the format and that they are likely to get answers in the finale.

[Glenn.]

I prefer the series arcs. Kind of gives a series a purpose imo

[Headie]

Each to their own! It just doesn't interest me sadly, I'm not one of those who spends their time keeping an eye out for easter eggs or hints/clues to past/future references but if you enjoy that then I suppose the interlinked seasons are good for you!

The season-long arcs are good (Bad Wolf, 4 knocks etc.) but when they span across multiple seasons I just lose interest when they start adding more complex things but no real sign of progression.

[Rob!]

Episode 1 consolidated to 6.7m, the highest of NYD

[armand.kay]

rewatching the superior Mater story arc and Martha really did that. like she really saved the world all on her own, was a caring kind hearted soul and people don’t like her because she fancied the doctor? David Tennant as the doctor was fine as hell I would’ve been trying to eat his bony booty too.

[Headie]

rewatching the superior Mater story arc and Martha really did that. like she really saved the world all on her own, was a caring kind hearted soul and people don’t like her because she fancied the doctor? David Tennant as the doctor was fine as hell I would’ve been trying to eat his bony booty too.

Queen of being the only companion not to get trapped in another universe, have her memory erased, get sent to another era or be converted into a cyberman :clap1:

[armand.kay]

Queen of being the only companion not to get trapped in another universe, have her memory erased, get sent to another era or be converted into a cyberman :clap1:

queen of getting braids and a happily ever after with sexier Micky yup

[Scarlett.]

rewatching the superior Mater story arc and Martha really did that. like she really saved the world all on her own, was a caring kind hearted soul and people don’t like her because she fancied the doctor? David Tennant as the doctor was fine as hell I would’ve been trying to eat his bony booty too.

I liked the first New Who Master arc, but I'm not sure I'd call it superior with how it ended with flying Doctor space Jesus pressing the reset button. The End of Time Master was done pretty badly too. To be honest, Simms' Master was probably best in the Missy era (which was the best Master era)

[Oliver_W]

rewatching the superior Mater story arc and Martha really did that. like she really saved the world all on her own, was a caring kind hearted soul and people don’t like her because she fancied the doctor? David Tennant as the doctor was fine as hell I would’ve been trying to eat his bony booty too.

I don't think it was so much that she fancied the Doctor, but that she was the second in a row to do so. And even then Doc was moaning about Rose half the time.... she was wasted by being Not-Rose, but Martha probably had the best journey /development

[armand.kay]

I liked the first New Who Master arc, but I'm not sure I'd call it superior with how it ended with flying Doctor space Jesus pressing the reset button. The End of Time Master was done pretty badly too. To be honest, Simms' Master was probably best in the Missy era (which was the best Master era)
I didn’t hate the ending lol.. not great but not bad enough to make the build up and final 3 episodes bad. Maybe it’s because i was young when i first watched it lol..

I don't think it was so much that she fancied the Doctor, but that she was the second in a row to do so. And even then Doc was moaning about Rose half the time.... she was wasted by being Not-Rose, but Martha probably had the best journey /development
but to me it just always seemed like it would be realistic for her to fancy him? David Tennant was an attractive guy and he took her travelling around the universe. The only thing that i didn’t like about that story line was him still constantly bringing up rose. like the reason he didn’t like her back should’ve been because he’s a bloody alien and not because he’s in love with a previous companion.

[Scarlett.]

I went into this episode expecting it to be kind of a return to S11 style, but it ended up being a really solid episode

[Oliver_W]

Yeah, once again it was better than anything from S11. It reminded me of an RTD runaround.

[Greg!]

Ugh this episode was far too preachy and on the nose.

[MB.]

I haven't watched any of this series so far, but I've seen people (non-hyperbolically, I'm sure) saying that this was the worst episode they've ever watched

Which bodes well

[Scarlett.]

There's been far far worse episodes.

[Mystic Mock]

I didn't really get what was to like about the episode tbh.

Heavy-handed preaching (I've seen other Sci-Fi shows handle environmental issues a lot better than this episode)

Underdeveloped Villains

Bad Dialogue between a few of the characters during the episode (Ryan and the girl that had Mummy issues being the most noticeable to me)

Bad acting from some of the actors in the episode

And the predictable dynamic and ending between the Inbetweeners guy and his Son.

I don't normally go down on an episode of a TV Show without giving out at least some positive comment towards it, but I really am struggling to come up with anything nice to say about that episode.

Well done to the people that enjoyed it, I wish that I could at least take something from the episode.

[armand.kay]

started off cute and intriguing quickly turned into a snooze fest.

[Liam-]

Great episode even if it was a bit Greta Thunberg

[Scarlett.]

It seemed very RTD era, like one of the run of the mill episodes, which is a massive step up from S11

[Liam-]

‘If I had some crayons and half a tin of spam, I could make you!’ had me

[Tom4784]

I thought it was one of the best episodes of this era. I think my only issue was how heavy handed the Doctor's speech was at the end, would have been far more effective if they were more subtle about it.

[Scarlett.]

Yeah, the speech at the end did step into overly preachy territory.

[Marsh.]

The speech felt like Chibnall at the last minute thought the theme of the episode wasn't quite apparent enough. :rolleyes:

I hate television that assumes its viewers are braindead idiots.

[Oliver_W]

I think the Planet of the Apres revelation could have been done better. Maybe they could have seen a sign for Gloucester Road Tube Station,, something we'd know is from Earth instantly.

Also the mother-daughter thing confused me. I thought the mother was just a security guard or something, I must have missed the bit where destroying the resort was a revenge?

[Morgan.]

Anjili Mohindra :love:

[Oliver_W]

So next week's trailer shows the return of
GRACE!

[Scarlett.]

Another decent episode this week

[Rob!]

Enjoyed that, the villians were decent (I'd argue better than the Racnoss tbh) and the story was interesting for a historical one.

Bring on the Judoon next week :love:

[Marsh.]

STOP slating the Racnoss in my presence!

[Glenn.]

I mean I was just waiting for it be confirmed they are related to the Racnoss in some way. It was just like watching Sarah Parish.

[Mystic Mock]

Definitely better than the last episode.

I do wish that the main group's dynamics would be given more attention to detail though as we're 1 and a bit seasons in and none of them have shown any character growth, or built up interesting dynamics with each other imo.

[Rob!]

Episode 7 is called Can You Hear Me?

[Marsh.]

Episode 7 is called Can You Hear Me?

What?

[Rob!]

What?

Witty bastard aren’t you

[Marsh.]

Witty bastard aren’t you

:hee:

[LukeB]

Witty bastard aren’t you

Get the Ood!!!

[Glenn.]

Tosin Cole has been cast as a lead in an American TV show so hopefully it means he’ll be leaving this year.

[Marsh.]

Tosin Cole has been cast as a lead in an American TV show so hopefully it means he’ll be leaving this year.

HOW???

The guy cannot act!

[Mystic Mock]

HOW???

The guy cannot act!

Tbf to the guy, Doctor Who isn't really giving him a chance to shine on the show imo, him and the one that plays Yaz need to desperately get away from Doctor Who to save their careers imo as they're not being allowed to showcase any acting skills.

Tbh though Jodie Whittaker has been the only main cast member that is delivering strong acting performances on Doctor Who in my view.

[Joe.]

I'd keep Yaz if we had a choice of the three companions, Ryan is just so bland and Graham is jut forced 'comedy', I like the Doctor and Yaz's friendship!

[Greg!]

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Hmmmm

[Marsh.]

Tbf to the guy, Doctor Who isn't really giving him a chance to shine on the show imo, him and the one that plays Yaz need to desperately get away from Doctor Who to save their careers imo as they're not being allowed to showcase any acting skills.

Tbh though Jodie Whittaker has been the only main cast member that is delivering strong acting performances on Doctor Who in my view.

Tbh, Tosin has had quite a lot of focus in comparison to Yaz.

If he can't act with what little he has I dread to think if he was given more. Regardless, he's wooden as a plank. :hehe:

[Marsh.]

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Hmmmm

Ryan death :fc:

[Glenn.]

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Hmmmm

I love click bait

[Tom4784]

They really need to change the companions at this point. Ryan's actor literally can't act, they refuse to give Yaz anything to do (even in her own episodes) and while Graham was one of the better parts of the last season, he's become surplus at this point now that his arc has come to an end.

They should just stick to one companion or two at most. Better to have one or two well developed characters over three characters with no characterisation between them.

Keep Jodie, boot the companions and Chibnall and treat Season 13 as a soft reboot.

[Glenn.]

I think Mandip is off too. She’s been cast in something too

[Morgan.]

I think Mandip is off too. She’s been cast in something too

Well if Ryan and Yas are off then Graham needs to go as well because I can’t think of anything worse than Graham being a solo companion.

[Oliver_W]

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Hmmmm
Isn't it
Grace?
I think she was in the next time trailer for this week?

[Morgan.]

Isn't it
Grace?
I think she was in the next time trailer for this week?

Unless they’ve recast her ... no :shrug:

[Marsh.]

Unless they’ve recast her ... no :shrug:

Her to return as the frog from series 11?

[Oliver_W]

Unless they’ve recast her ... no :shrug:

I just rewatched it and mess you're right :skull: the woman I was thinking of barely looks anything like her :skull:

To be fair I wasn't looking at the TV when the next time trailer was on, and I thought the man said "do you trust me Grace?" So I only saw her at a glance...

[Nicky91]

excited for this tonight :dance2:


as for last episode, i quite liked it, also Goran Visnjic had good acting work as Nikola Tesla :clap2:

[Denver]

Mess at Captain Jack Returning

[Denver]

Mess not the doctor now being a Black lady

[Rob!]

WHAT THE ****


That was amazing. I’m SO excited for the rest of this series

[Oliver_W]

So is she the Rani? Master? Ffs I hope they don't mess with long established canon and have incarnations before First Doc...

[Firewire]

I'm guessing "Ruth" is the Lone Cyberman taking form of the Doctor, in the shape of Ruth? Right?

[Oliver_W]

I'm guessing "Ruth" is the Lone Cyberman taking form of the Doctor, in the shape of Ruth? Right?

It's possible! Were any Cybs in the next time trailer?

[Zizu]

Mess not the doctor now being a Black lady



What does this sentence mean ?


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[Zizu]

Mess at Captain Jack Returning



??


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[Glenn.]

Did you watch the episode zizu?

[Scarlett.]

What an amazing episode o.o

[Glenn.]

Easily the best of Jodies era so far. I’m loving the Gallifrey arc

[Zizu]

Did you watch the episode zizu?



Errrr I was in the room when it came on but left fairly soon afterwards..
I’ll leave it at that rather than upsetting everyone..

Just intrigued as to what those two sentences could possibly mean


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[Greg!]

I’m SHOOK!

[Glenn.]

Errrr I was in the room when it came on but left fairly soon afterwards..
I’ll leave it at that rather than upsetting everyone..

Just intrigued as to what those two sentences could possibly mean


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They mean exactly what they say

[Zizu]

They mean exactly what they say



Mess at .... ??


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[Headie]

We did it y'all, we finally got one in the doctor's shoes. A great day for myself and Armand, I knew the writer's would repay us after Grace's unjust death last series x

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[Glenn.]

Mess at .... ??


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I think you might need to do a little research on internet talk. You take things too literally

[Tom4784]

It was a great episode, I assume, like the War Doctor, Ruth is simply another forgotten regeneration. After all, The Master did mention that the Timelords had memories taken from them.

I don't think she's a cyberman but I definitely think it's possible she's The Rani if she isn't a forgotten regeneration. She seemed a bit too brutal to be the Doctor tbh.

[Zizu]

I think you might need to do a little research on internet talk. You take things too literally



Well thanks for that .. I think


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[Zizu]

I think you might need to do a little research on internet talk. You take things too literally



Right so two people in the shot below feel that the show is a mess - fair enough .

That doesn’t explain the two sentences I highlighted BEGINNING with Mess but not making too much sense ?

Is a MESS a ‘thing’ in Dr Who , maybe ?

If so it doesn’t seem to be a very good choice of words - given the negative connotations.


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[Mystic Mock]

Definitely the best episode of this season so far imo.

Could Ruth be from an alternate reality? It would explain why Jodie Whittaker's Doctor and Ruth don't have any memories of being each other imo.

[Glenn.]

Right so two people in the shot below feel that the show is a mess - fair enough .

That doesn’t explain the two sentences I highlighted BEGINNING with Mess but not making too much sense ?

Is a MESS a ‘thing’ in Dr Who , maybe ?

If so it doesn’t seem to be a very good choice of words - given the negative connotations.


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Urban Dictionary

mess
You can use the word mess after someone says or does something that's embarrassing, stupid, pathetic, ridiculous, or weird.

[Joe.]

Brilliant episode, first time I@m excited about New Who since Matt Smith's Series 7!

[Morgan.]

So Chibnall has confirmed that there’s ‘no tricks’ with Jo Martin’s doctor, and that she IS the doctor. And he’s also confirmed that Barrowman won’t be back in Series 12.

[Marsh.]

I'm guessing "Ruth" is the Lone Cyberman taking form of the Doctor, in the shape of Ruth? Right?

Come THROUGH aged Bill!

[Marsh.]

So is she the Rani? Master? Ffs I hope they don't mess with long established canon and have incarnations before First Doc...

We already know there are incarnations prior to Hartnell. The Brain of Morbius depicted 8 faces prior to him.

[Oliver_W]

We already know there are incarnations prior to Hartnell. The Brain of Morbius depicted 8 faces prior to him.

That has since been debunked by never having been mentioned again. Doc One said he was "the original, you might say!" in Five Doctors, and anything following Morbius basically confirmed the Doctor started with Hartnell.

Maybe the other faces were Morbius' previous incarnations, or a glitch. Whatever they are, they don't seem to be "canon"

[Rob!]

So Chibnall has confirmed that there’s ‘no tricks’ with Jo Martin’s doctor, and that she IS the doctor. And he’s also confirmed that Barrowman won’t be back in Series 12.

Oh good, Chibnall is forgiven then.

[Marsh.]

That has since been debunked by never having been mentioned again. Doc One said he was "the original, you might say!" in Five Doctors, and anything following Morbius basically confirmed the Doctor started with Hartnell.

Maybe the other faces were Morbius' previous incarnations, or a glitch. Whatever they are, they don't seem to be "canon"

I don't think "confirmed" exists in Doctor Who. It changes its canon almost as much as it changes Doctor and companion. :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

I don't think "confirmed" exists in Doctor Who. It changes its canon almost as much as it changes Doctor and companion. :laugh:

trew dat! :laugh:

[Tom4784]

She's probably the Doctor from another dimension, then. John Hurt worked as the War Doctor because there was a stretch of time where the Doctor wasn't accounted for but unless they are willing to rewrite the oldest seasons which they've been hesitant to do for the most part, slotting Ruth in as an official Doctor might not work out well without creating a bunch of continuity errors and plot holes.

I know there's a theory in which people believe that Jodie's doctor has slipped into an alternate dimension (effectively making her the alternate reality Doctor and Ruth this dimension's Doctor) at some point prior to Season 11 and everything that's happened has happened in this dimension which is why there's so many strange inconsistencies but it would also explain why we could be saying goodbye to the companions at the end of this season if our Doctor ends up returning to her normal dimension.

[Marsh.]

They'll be able to explain the dull as sh*t companions. In that alternate dimension people are more like robots with no personality. :hehe:

[Headie]

She's probably the Doctor from another dimension, then. John Hurt worked as the War Doctor because there was a stretch of time where the Doctor wasn't accounted for but unless they are willing to rewrite the oldest seasons which they've been hesitant to do for the most part, slotting Ruth in as an official Doctor might not work out well without creating a bunch of continuity errors and plot holes.

I know there's a theory in which people believe that Jodie's doctor has slipped into an alternate dimension (effectively making her the alternate reality Doctor and Ruth this dimension's Doctor) at some point prior to Season 11 and everything that's happened has happened in this dimension which is why there's so many strange inconsistencies but it would also explain why we could be saying goodbye to the companions at the end of this season if our Doctor ends up returning to her normal dimension.

Chibnall has confirmed she isn't a Doctor from a parallel universe.

Haters are gonna have to deal with this legend, period :clap1:

[Marsh.]

The only possible explanation is that Jodie herself is the parallel universe Doctor (along with her cardboard companions) and we kick off a new era with Miss Ruth?

[Morgan.]

Well I think Jodie has been confirmed for S13 so I doubt she’d be leaving

[Headie]

The only possible explanation is that Jodie herself is the parallel universe Doctor (along with her cardboard companions) and we kick off a new era with Miss Ruth?

Ruth snatching jobs from outta nowhere

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[Headie]

I screamed when she said "do not come for me", we love to see Toya script-writing for the show!

[Marsh.]

Well I think Jodie has been confirmed for S13 so I doubt she’d be leaving

I'm sure after they saw the reception Queen Ruth has received they have torn up her contract.

[Marsh.]

I screamed when she said "do not come for me", we love to see Toya script-writing for the show!

NOT Hurricane Ruth?

[Glenn.]

I think Chibbers is just gonna make the Ruth Doctor pre Hartnell just for the bantz tbh

[Scarlett.]

But she has the police box TARDIS, this is what the TARDIS looked like before he stole it
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[Marsh.]

Clara mucked up the timeline AGAIN

[Oliver_W]

But she has the police box TARDIS, this is what the TARDIS looked like before he stole it
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uR1y_ahlsug/maxresdefault.jpg
To be fair, the only thing suggesting she's pre-Hartnell are unconfirmed internet rumours. She didn't say she didn't recognise the Sonic, she said she didn't need one.

I know there's a theory in which people believe that Jodie's doctor has slipped into an alternate dimension (effectively making her the alternate reality Doctor and Ruth this dimension's Doctor) at some point prior to Season 11 and everything that's happened has happened in this dimension which is why there's so many strange inconsistencies but it would also explain why we could be saying goodbye to the companions at the end of this season if our Doctor ends up returning to her normal dimension.
Wasn't there an episode with sort-of alternative dimensions on S11? Most of that crappy season is literally white noise in my memory :laugh: but I think Graham met Grace? And a talking frog could send people in different realities? Maybe in that episode the frog sent them to a different dimension, where Ruth is the Doctor, and Gallifrey didn't burn?

[Oliver_W]

How are people finding the season so far? At this point every episode from this year is better than anything from S11, but that's not really saying much.

It's fine, just fine.

[Morgan.]

It’s a perfectly fine season. Nothing amazing, nothing awful, but to see how they wrap up all the plot points will determine how it ranks for me.

[Strictly Jake]

This series has been a very "woke" series hasnt it

Technology hacking
Plastic Pollution
Mental health

Etc

I have enjoyed this series but its trying too hard to address problems we are facing at the moment

[Oliver_W]

This series has been a very "woke" series hasnt it

Technology hacking
Plastic Pollution
Mental health

Etc

I have enjoyed this series but its trying too hard to address problems we are facing at the moment

Surprising as it may seem from my SD&N posts, I actually approve of some aspects of wokeness in media :joker:

Thinking about it, my general bugaboos are actually overuse of technology, pollution and the environment, and proper mental health care :joker:

[Strictly Jake]

Loved tonights episode!!

[Oliver_W]

Yeah man, tonight's was probably the best since Jodie and Chibnall started

[Marsh.]

Really good episode.

The cyber stuff doesn't make a lot of sense, but the episode was well made and had tension. Oh how I've missed it.

[Headie]

WHERE is Ruth??? These writers are really trying me by ignoring her existence after ha breakout ep

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[Rob!]

That Cyberman was ****ing terrifying. It reminded me of a sort of metal Michael Myers, just storming around and causing havoc. The last moment of him saying what he did to his children, I’m frankly stunned made it in but I’m delighted it did.

[Scarlett.]

This season overall has been really solid so far

[Greg!]

Shook to the core! First half I thought it was a decent filler episode but then the massive twist happened! Ruth tease (btw where is our queen? Hope she returns in the finale)

[Firewire]

Doctor Ruth is missed!

[Oliver_W]

Ruth is better than Jodie, I'd be quite happy for them to swap.

[Greg!]

Omg calling it now, Ruth will pop up at the end of the next ep as part of the cliffhanger. You heard it here first luvs!

[Scarlett.]

Just exploring the TARDIS in dreams on the PS4
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[Mystic Mock]

It was a better episode than most of them this season imo.

I still feel like Chibnall's writing is poor for the show though (well his headwriting skills to be exact) but thankfully the visual effects and the acting from Jodie Whittaker and the Cyberman carried the episode off better than some weeks episodes.

At least the show has finally decided to introduce a storyline that might go past the wafer thin line.

[Greg!]

That was soooo good I'm shook. The Battle of Rancid Alan Colon is shaking!

[Marsh.]

Meh. The intrigue is still only in the "moments" of reveals and not so much in the story.

The countryside side plot setting up the Cyberman, predictable and derivative.

I like it. It's just so many of these ideas have been done not that long ago by Steven Moffatt.

[Headie]

Right WHERE is Ruth we're gonna have problems in a minute

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[Glenn.]

Quite possibly the best Cybermen story of NuWho?

[Marsh.]

Quite possibly the best Cybermen story of NuWho?

WHAT? D:

Didn't come close to World Enough and Time. :hmph:

[Rob!]

WHAT? D:

Didn't come close to World Enough and Time. :hmph:

That was more Master/Missy than Cybermen though tbf. The "pain...pain..." thing was amazing but other than that they were just background threat.

[Glenn.]

WHAT? D:

Didn't come close to World Enough and Time. :hmph:

Oh honey I’m not even gonna try and respond to that.

[Rob!]

Oh honey I’m not even gonna try and respond to that.

GET HER.

[Marsh.]

Oh honey I’m not even gonna try and respond to that.

Classic Cybermen, Peter Capaldi, Missy, John Simm... much better than tonight's. :nono:

[Glenn.]

Classic Cybermen, Peter Capaldi, Missy, John Simm... much better than tonight's. :nono:

Someone had their eyes closed tonight then. An array of Cybermen including a new classic looking model, the master and an incredible performance from our reigning Doctor.
The Cybermen were crap in World Enough and Time.

[Mystic Mock]

Meh. The intrigue is still only in the "moments" of reveals and not so much in the story.

The countryside side plot setting up the Cyberman, predictable and derivative.

I like it. It's just so many of these ideas have been done not that long ago by Steven Moffatt.

The flashback idea would've worked better imo if they'd been using it as a B-Plot throughout the season, the whole arc feels a little rushed imo because Chibnall thought that it was a better idea to do a load of historical and environmental episodes instead. So not a lot of time has been dedicated to the Cyberman in the present timeline let alone in the flashbacks.

I am liking the actor's performance as the Cyberman though, he can join Jodie Whittaker in actually delivering a more lively performance.:dance:

[Marsh.]

No no Mock! :nono:

We spent too much of this episode never mind the season watching a ginger baby grow up. :omgno:

[Marsh.]

Someone had their eyes closed tonight then. An array of Cybermen including a new classic looking model, the master and an incredible performance from our reigning Doctor.
The Cybermen were crap in World Enough and Time.

But a good Cyberman story is surely more than "LOTS of Cybermen shooting stuff"? :hmph:

As for the performances, I'll just say I disagree. :hehe:

[Morgan.]

I really enjoyed that episode. I think that was Jodies best performance so far 100% as well. The companions are still a miss with me, they’re just very obvious plot-pushers and they’re being used horrifically. Yaz is the only one with any potential but she needs to be solo to get that.

[Marsh.]

I did sit there in awe at Yaz and Graham talking to each other.

Have they done that before? There was even some banter too.

Usually they communicate via the emotional void that is Ryan.

[Morgan.]

I did sit there in awe at Yaz and Graham talking to each other.

Have they done that before? There was even some banter too.

Usually they communicate via the emotional void that is Ryan.

Lmao yes I wondered that too.

[Rob!]

I did sit there in awe at Yaz and Graham talking to each other.

Have they done that before? There was even some banter too.

Usually they communicate via the emotional void that is Ryan.

The two of them work quite well together. It’s so painfully obvious that Ryan is the weak link. With a bit of character development, there could be a really nice relationship between Graham and Yaz

[Glenn.]

Tbh I’d rather them all just piss off and we get a new companion

[Tom4784]

It was a fairly good episode although Chibnall's piss poor cliche ridden dialogue is still a massive issue. I think Yaz and Graham were good for the most part but I agree that Ryan is the main problem. The actor can't act and the character is as barebones as he could be. The best thing they could do for this era is to have the campanions leave and start fresh with a single companion. The three companions aspect could have worked but I really think that none of them should be full time companions outside of big episodes because there's too many regular characters and not enough plot. This era would have gone a lot better if the Doctor just brought one or two companions with her an episode.

[Marsh.]

I preferred my assumption when the actors were announced, that Yaz and Ryan were uni students and Graham their tutor.

Maybe a bit close to Capaldi's university lecturer era but maybe a better set up so the Doctor could take different variations of characters each episode. Having them all hanging about every single episode with material that isn't even enough for even one main character is just odd.

[Glenn.]

I watched William Hartnells last episode the other day. I thought I better watch it while he’s still the First Doctor. I’ve got a feeling after this weeks one he’s not going to be number one anymore.
The Cybermen would have been pretty terrifying for the audience all those years ago.

[Rob!]

I honestly think this is the best the Cybermen have ever looked. I think they are so hard to get right - most of the time they just end up as footsoldiers to a bigger villain (like the Master - and there's no saying that's not what is going to happen next week) and I really like Ashad as a villain too.
People won't agree with me, but say what you like about Chibnall but he is totally capable of breathing new life into old monsters. He made the Dalek in Resolution a formidable foe too. I'm honestly so excited for next week and I honestly think it's going to be an immense episode.
Graham is my favourite companion of this era. Bradley Walsh is more than capable of doing far more than he's been given so far.

[Rob!]

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THIS was amazing.

[Mystic Mock]

No no Mock! :nono:

We spent too much of this episode never mind the season watching a ginger baby grow up. :omgno:

:joker:

Yeah admittedly I'd probably have started the flashback with him being in his late teens and then hopefully build from there to get to the present storyline.

[Oliver_W]

This season has been okay, the worst of this year is better than the best of last season. It's still not great though, I miss Twelve and Bill :(

[Greg!]

Do we think any of the companions will die/leave in the next episode? I just really hope legend Yaz survives!

They def need a new companion next year. Ryan and Bradley Walsh just aren’t really doing it for me sadly!

[Marsh.]

I think definitely. They have already filmed the Christmas 2020/New Year 2021 special, which I'm guessing was to allow the actor(s) to move on rather than come back later in the year. And I reckon Ryan will at least leave, whether the others go with him I don't know.

I wouldn't mind Bradley Walsh staying on his own. I think that dynamic would've worked better from the start, a reverse of the usual older Doctor/younger woman companion. But at this point where Jodie is likely to only have 1 more full series and a couple of specials I reckon time for her to have a new companion. Someone new to work with.

[Rob!]

Problem is, I can’t see a way in which Graham would stay with the Doctor, especially if Ryan dies.

[Mystic Mock]

I think definitely. They have already filmed the Christmas 2020/New Year 2021 special, which I'm guessing was to allow the actor(s) to move on rather than come back later in the year. And I reckon Ryan will at least leave, whether the others go with him I don't know.

I wouldn't mind Bradley Walsh staying on his own. I think that dynamic would've worked better from the start, a reverse of the usual older Doctor/younger woman companion. But at this point where Jodie is likely to only have 1 more full series and a couple of specials I reckon time for her to have a new companion. Someone new to work with.

Tbh Graham/Bradley Walsh is the only companion that I see potential in at this point, so like you I wouldn't mind him being the companion to stick around, if any of the companions stick around that is.

There's just a bit more gravity to his character imo.

[Oliver_W]

I was thinking last night, Graham is as barely-written as Ryan - was he married before Grace? Any kids? Biological grandkids? He's the oldest of the three but has almost as little characterisation as any of them. But Bradley Walsh breathes such life into him you don't notice so much.

[Marsh.]

I don't think character necessarily requires a massively detailed backstory. We didn't need to know much about his life prior to Grace.

Grace was his wife, Ryan his step-grandchild and he was battling cancer. That's enough in terms of "character set up" the issue is in no personality or development from that.

Bradley gives the character more personality than is on the page. But that doesn't save the fact the character hasn't grown. That goes for all of them. They have enough character backstory/set up for all of them, family links, disabilities etc. However, it's just a list of facts about the characters that are referenced now and again rather than tools to tell a story. Really annoys me tbh.

Graham having 1 scene referencing a fear of his cancer returning is not character development.

[Marsh.]

Problem is, I can’t see a way in which Graham would stay with the Doctor, especially if Ryan dies.

Oh come on he can't wait for Ryan to piss off either.

[Oliver_W]

Oh come on he can't wait for Ryan to piss off either.

Real life footage of Graham trying to find Ryan:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/Bu8ADbj7NuRry/source.gif

[Morgan.]

I’d say that whilst Graham is probably the most developed character of the 3, the only one I have interest in seeing again is Yas - I think she has more potential.

Graham would’ve been more fitting as a temporary companion - one of those that tags along for 2-4 episodes in the middle of the series to add a new dynamic.

[Oliver_W]

I’d say that whilst Graham is probably the most developed character of the 3, the only one I have interest in seeing again is Yas - I think she has more potential.

Graham would’ve been more fitting as a temporary companion - one of those that tags along for 2-4 episodes in the middle of the series to add a new dynamic.

Like Jackie Tyler and Arthur Pond <3

[Glenn.]

Tf is Arthur Pond?

[Oliver_W]

Tf is Arthur Pond?

Rory's dad!

[Morgan.]

Rory's dad!

You mean Brian?